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Title: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 24 January 2019, 01:30:08
ENJOYPBT 3000SAT

Hello. I've been asked by KBDfans to design a set to be produced by Enjoypbt based on the old Cherry G81-3000 (https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=10138) set.
So far, it has been decided that it will follow the original design except that it will have Text+Icon modifiers rather than just icons and the Prt Sc/Sys Rq key will be done in green like the original.

I have added a Super, Code and diamond icon OS keys of varying sizes. My rationale is that the Super key was more popular than Code so I've added 1.5u and 1.25u sizes for these. I've added 1u Code instead of Super because 1u the Super legend looks tight on 1u. I have only included 1u diamond keys because they can double up as 1u Fn keys for split R-shift and they are harder to centre on anything larger than 1u during manufacturing.

We are currently waiting for Enjoypbt to retool their moulds. Kit has been updated.



RENDERS - shown on the 7V Keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100896.0)

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KITS

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PHOTOS

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Link to the 7V - 75% Keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100896.0) Interest Check pictured in the renders.

UPDATES

14/02/2019 - Windows 95 OS key is leading in the google form but I am thinking about adding 1u diamond, 1.25u and 1.5u super keys as well as having 1u and 1.25u Windows 95 OS keys.
25/03/2019 - Added a progress snapshot
26/03/2019 - Updated the preview with the full kit as it stands
27/03/2019 - Added accent keys to the kit. Removed 1u Menu key.
28/03/2019 - Added R4 pipe key and R2 Control key for HHKB layouts. Removed 1u Backspace and 1.5u Fn keys.
01/04/2019 - Split the kit into a base kit + addons with the numpad & additional accents keys.
02/04/2019 - Some corrections made to the kit. Files sent to KBDfans for prototyping.
27/04/2019 - Added renders. Still waiting for samples.
08/06/2019 - Added an ortho kit. Still waiting for samples
16/06/2019 - Photos of samples added
16/12/2019 - Added an "Ergo" kit. Next round of samples has been ordered with a new blue.
12/10/2020 - Kit updated.
23/10/2020 - 40s kit updated.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: _ODIN_ on Thu, 24 January 2019, 01:35:28
I would like to see something different.

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: dallman5 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 01:37:02
I dont mind the idea of a more grey base as opposed to the usual beige, but please leave the legend colors in tact. Its just not a SAT set without those sexy, blue front-printed legends :)

I would like to see the legends from 3000 used over 3004 as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Regret on Thu, 24 January 2019, 01:51:37
I think a beige set would be pretty great. A lot of grey sets coming in development or already out.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Taeha Types on Thu, 24 January 2019, 01:55:26
I dont mind the idea of a more grey base as opposed to the usual beige, but please leave the legend colors in tact. Its just not a SAT set without those sexy, blue front-printed legends :)

I would like to see the legends from 3000 used over 3004 as well.
I am of the same opinion too. Would love to see this come to life with amazing legending
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Olitender on Thu, 24 January 2019, 02:11:27
Would like to have the legends remain relatively the same, but I'm open to the idea of different keycap colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Khers on Thu, 24 January 2019, 02:55:26
Get rid of the horrible homing bars and I'm in. As for colours, my personal preference would be for the OG Cherry look.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 24 January 2019, 03:05:10
Get rid of the horrible homing bars and I'm in. As for colours, my personal preference would be for the OG Cherry look.
That is something that I don't think can realistically be done and I personally like scooped and barred homing keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 24 January 2019, 03:17:55
Icon + text please!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: t8c on Thu, 24 January 2019, 04:06:34
OG beige.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:01:49
I vote for keeping it as close to OG as possible. Both in terms of legend colors, *and* keycap colors. If OG is beige, then keep it beige. But thats just my opinion.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:20:47
I vote for keeping it as close to OG as possible. Both in terms of legend colors, *and* keycap colors. If OG is beige, then keep it beige. But thats just my opinion.


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I would like to echo this sentiment, with the addition of a couple of navy accent keys to match the side-printed legends!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: fer.real on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:31:09
Would you keep the Czech layout with front-printed English ledgends like in the link?  I would definitely buy that.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: fublamchu on Thu, 24 January 2019, 08:48:06
Beige please :D
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: zekkin on Thu, 24 January 2019, 09:16:20
Preserve the OG look! Beige caps, black legends, blue sub-legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: aznreaper on Thu, 24 January 2019, 09:49:52
Keep it as close as possible to the original would be my preference
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Abec13 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 11:35:47
I think if you're going to go about mimicking a retro set it's best to keep to the OG colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: appaboy on Thu, 24 January 2019, 11:37:52
This x100. If you recreate it but change it then I don't think it deserves to be named after SAT
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 24 January 2019, 11:56:04
giga brane gok
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 24 January 2019, 11:59:26
This x100. If you recreate it but change it then I don't think it deserves to be named after SAT
Yup. At that point, I'd be considering a name change for the set. I just think there is scope for something new rather than rehashing old sets. Those keysets were made when keyboards were all beige but now there I so much variety that we needn't limit ourselves.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 24 January 2019, 12:12:52
Vintage is cool. Keep it faithful to OG.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 24 January 2019, 12:19:07
I like this. May go in for a set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 25 January 2019, 20:05:35
It looks like the consensus is for beige and original colours.
I have created a google form to round out some of the other options that haven't been discussed much.

https://goo.gl/forms/kpetdXSA0VIlvDMj1 (https://goo.gl/forms/kpetdXSA0VIlvDMj1)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Fri, 25 January 2019, 21:20:28
Something like this would probably be best staying as close to the original as you can. Though I must admit it would be cool to see you design an ePBT set that uses icons for all modifier keys and not just the 60% modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 25 January 2019, 22:08:28
Something like this would probably be best staying as close to the original as you can. Though I must admit it would be cool to see you design an ePBT set that uses icons for all modifier keys and not just the 60% modifiers.
Not that many people have responded yet but text+icons seems more popular so far which is different to the original design. I'd personally prefer text+icon as well so that there are more options to mix and match modifier keys since 9009 already covers beige coloured icon mods.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 26 January 2019, 00:08:37
The subledgends would be great.

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 26 January 2019, 01:55:43


This x100. If you recreate it but change it then I don't think it deserves to be named after SAT
Yup. At that point, I'd be considering a name change for the set. I just think there is scope for something new rather than rehashing old sets. Those keysets were made when keyboards were all beige but now there I so much variety that we needn't limit ourselves.

I agree with this. I don't mind doing a homage to an old keyset, but must we limit ourselves to the same old same old? Slice it up, add some accents in there! Maybe navy blue to match the sub legends, which I believe was mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: macclack on Sat, 26 January 2019, 11:15:15
Two enthusiastic thumbs up. I'm in agreement with those who are voting for the OG look. Classics never go out of style.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 26 January 2019, 16:27:36
As close to the original as possible please. Also, I'm assuming ansi layout supported
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: adxlk on Sat, 26 January 2019, 20:41:19
Keep it OG please
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sun, 27 January 2019, 02:36:32
In for whatever this set ends up being. Go with your gut!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 27 January 2019, 22:48:21
I'll be leaving the google form open for a bit longer but so far, it looks like the majority of you want text+icon and with the Czech sublegends of the G81-3000.
I'll start working on the new legends sometime this week.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 28 January 2019, 12:45:02
I think an epbt peacock esque set would be freaking incredible i'd be very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Mon, 28 January 2019, 12:51:33
I think an epbt peacock esque set would be freaking incredible i'd be very interested.
Is jump on peacock in a heartbeat
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 28 January 2019, 13:01:33
I would really love for this set to happen, but I am not that confident in epbt sideprint, which this set needs for it to be done well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Mon, 28 January 2019, 13:51:34
Has EnjoyPBT ever done side-printing?


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 28 January 2019, 14:05:00
I would really love for this set to happen, but I am not that confident in epbt sideprint, which this set needs for it to be done well.
This is something that I've stressed to KBDfans as well but the samples I've received for Kuro/Shiro has sideprinted legends that are much cleaner than they were for BoW. I agree that it will make or break the set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: t8c on Mon, 28 January 2019, 14:09:15
Has EnjoyPBT ever done side-printing?


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Yeah for example EnjoyPBT Arabic* had Prt Scr with blue side printed Sys Rq.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000/3004 SAT set
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 29 January 2019, 06:50:56
Has EnjoyPBT ever done side-printing?


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Yeah for example EnjoyPBT cyrillic had Prt Scr with blue side printed Sys Rq.
BoW had the same.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 30 January 2019, 03:12:40
Updated main post with a new link to another google form with some more questions.

The results of the first google form can be seen here: https://goo.gl/forms/WxHabo7Oq3OtSdVw1 (https://goo.gl/forms/WxHabo7Oq3OtSdVw1)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 30 January 2019, 21:35:45
These are the results so far from the latest form. I'll be leaving this open for a while because the votes are so split regarding the OS key.
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 31 January 2019, 00:19:44
More votes for diamond please. Much more universal.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 31 January 2019, 12:59:23
Just out of curiosity, why is epbt unable to do scooped homing keys?
Title: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:07:31
I believe they do make them. But their scooped keys happen to also have bars. I would also like scoop-only keycaps, TBH.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _ODIN_ on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:27:12
I believe they do. But their scooped keys happen to also have bars. I would also like scoop-only keycaps, TBH.
+1

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:44:13
I personally like teh semi scoope semi barred best. But if i had to pick barred i think is better.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 10 February 2019, 23:09:46
Votes are still pretty split with regards to OS key preferences but the win 95 logo is leading.
Something that I am considering if having win 95 key as the main OS key but adding 1u diamond keys for hhkb layout and 1.5u super keys for WKL where a lot of people use control in hhkb position but it looks odd with 2 control keys on the left side.

Also looking to split the kit into core + numpad like I am doing for Kuro/Shiro.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 11 February 2019, 02:06:11
Votes are still pretty split with regards to OS key preferences but the win 95 logo is leading.
Something that I am considering if having win 95 key as the main OS key but adding 1u diamond keys for hhkb layout and 1.5u super keys for WKL where a lot of people use control in hhkb position but it looks odd with 2 control keys on the left side.

Also looking to split the kit into core + numpad like I am doing for Kuro/Shiro.
Yeah separate numpad is great

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 11 February 2019, 03:10:36
How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 13 February 2019, 00:29:45
How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
I personally like the sound and feel of them but your preferences may be different.

On a separate note, 60 people have filled out the latest form and these are the results so far:
[attachimg=1]

Windows 95 is leading but the diamond key isn't too far behind. What do people think about my previous suggestion of adding 1u diamond keys and 1.5u super keys in conjunction with 1u and 1.25u Windows 95 keys?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 13 February 2019, 02:51:57
How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
I personally like the sound and feel of them but your preferences may be different.

On a separate note, 60 people have filled out the latest form and these are the results so far:
(Attachment Link)

Windows 95 is leading but the diamond key isn't too far behind. What do people think about my previous suggestion of adding 1u diamond keys and 1.5u super keys in conjunction with 1u and 1.25u Windows 95 keys?
I like the idea
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _GMK_ on Wed, 13 February 2019, 03:05:52
How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
I personally like the sound and feel of them but your preferences may be different.

I just asked if this sets sounds sharper, higher and more acute than gmk abs. You didn't answer  :(
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 13 February 2019, 03:20:11
How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
I personally like the sound and feel of them but your preferences may be different.

I just asked if this sets sounds sharper, higher and more acute than gmk abs. You didn't answer  :(

because its almost impossible to answer that question accurately. I am sure someone could give a yes or a no but it be woefully inadequate. Things like plate materials and case design all play a very high roll in acoustic properties. I am sure PCB materials can and do play a role. As some boards have more flex then others. The switch batch them self's can play a role in how things sound. I found that there is no easy answer to acoustics. My topre boards are a great example of that. I mean there both topre one a Topre TKL and the other a Leopold. There both using the Topre switch and both have extremely different acoustic characteristics.

Though to try to answer your question my enjoypbt sets tend to sound more rich on my tada 68. They remind me more of a topre switch then the gmk abs do thought neither has a exact sound profile like topre thock. 
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 16 March 2019, 11:12:46
How similar is this to the Peacock set by HammerWorks CRP being sold on Massdrop now?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 16 March 2019, 11:16:32
Is this the same as the Peacock set by HammerWorks CRP being sold on Massdrop now?
It is not. They're two different PBT keycaps makers.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 16 March 2019, 11:20:37
Is this the same as the Peacock set by HammerWorks CRP being sold on Massdrop now?
It is not. They're two different PBT keycaps makers.

Edited my post. I know theyre not the same but they look very similar. Just wondering about the history behind these. Couldnt find anything about Peacock on deskthority.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: subcat on Sat, 16 March 2019, 11:25:35
There are three known versions of SAT:
G81-3000
G81-3004
G81-3225

3000 is presumably the default Czech layout, it includes many top-printed black sublegends on the alphas as well as that famous blue scattered throughout, which also appears in side print on the numrow
3004 is the designation for Peacock Computers, it's similar to the 3000 spec but without many of the alpha sublegends and with a Peacock logo on the case
3225 is an English/Czech hybrid similar in spec to 3004 but with some tweaks like text/icon mods in some places and different bracket positions, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 18 March 2019, 16:01:07
I agree that scoops plus bars feel and look horrible.
How's the enjoypbt texture, compared to the OG sets? PBT is more "silky" and dry than abs, I just wonder how does enjoypbt compare to OG pbt (texture and touch wise).

Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 18 March 2019, 16:16:50
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 18 March 2019, 16:39:02
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

So it's one pair of F and J purely scooped and one pair and purely barred? That's nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 18 March 2019, 16:57:28
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

I think you will find the community split on what's preferred. But EPBT might want to rework their scooped design.

See my Reddit post demonstrating the problem here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/

I personally like scoops, but I assume fixing this will be pretty expensive, so I'm happy to settle for no scoops.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 17:41:07
Oh I would love if pure scoops were something EPBT could do, that's half of the appeal of OG PBT and CRP for me personally, pure scoops and R5 bottom row.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 18 March 2019, 18:21:34
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

I think you will find the community split on what's preferred. But EPBT might want to rework their scooped design.

See my Reddit post demonstrating the problem here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/

I personally like scoops, but I assume fixing this will be pretty expensive, so I'm happy to settle for no scoops.

OMG  I was considering to use silent switches. Is the only solution to Dremel the key?

How can such a low tech thing like a keyboard have so many variables? Why people can't just copy what it works? Is that so difficult? Just look at box switches. They were too big and still destroy keycaps. And now this. How can this happen?

If the OG was icon only, why does this need to be icons and text? That's strange.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 18 March 2019, 18:54:11
Scooped-only EPBT would be really nice if they manage to fix the scoop-hitting-switch issue.

Also +1 for R5, but again that requires new molds so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

I think you will find the community split on what's preferred. But EPBT might want to rework their scooped design.

See my Reddit post demonstrating the problem here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/

I personally like scoops, but I assume fixing this will be pretty expensive, so I'm happy to settle for no scoops.

OMG  I was considering to use silent switches. Is the only solution to Dremel the key?

How can such a low tech thing like a keyboard have so many variables? Why people can't just copy what it works? Is that so difficult? Just look at box switches. They were too big and still destroy keycaps. And now this. How can this happen?

If the OG was icon only, why does this need to be icons and text? That's strange.

I'm not sure what part you would even Dremel...

As for BOX switches, the problem is that Kailh got a request from an OEM customer to make the stems extra-fat so that (their probably poorly made) keycaps wouldn't fall off. So Kailh complied without thinking about the effects on a tiny fraction of their customers (the enthusiast community).

As for the keyset, that's what an IC is for. I'm definitely in favor of mimicking the OG look when possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: vicissitude on Mon, 18 March 2019, 20:16:40
When does the GB start?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 18 March 2019, 21:00:20
When does the GB start?
Way too early to confirm but what I can say is that it will definitely be after Kuro/Shiro and Extended 2048.

The current timeline is to finish the design by the end of the month and then wait for prototypes which will probably be around 2 months from now.
Title: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Mon, 18 March 2019, 21:06:16
+1 for Icons Mods. The closer to OG, the better.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: Tequila_Heineken on Wed, 20 March 2019, 05:21:50
Beige/white is a good classic color scheme, but I would like to see what other colors are possible with PBT personally. 2048 with its cream background color is a welcome first step of innovation.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 20 March 2019, 05:46:34
Beige/white is a good classic color scheme, but I would like to see what other colors are possible with PBT personally. 2048 with its cream background color is a welcome first step of innovation.  :)
There have already been a few non beige epbt sets already like bow, Grayscale, slate and kuro/Shiro.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set (25/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 25 March 2019, 03:47:28
Added a snapshot of my progress. Alpha legends are done and the next thing to do is to place side printed legends and then finish off the mods.
I'm aiming to finish the first cut for prototyping by the end of the week.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set (25/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:08:37
Added a snapshot of my progress. Alpha legends are done and the next thing to do is to place side printed legends and then finish off the mods.
I'm aiming to finish the first cut for prototyping by the end of the week.
Looks nice. Will you create an international kit?

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set (25/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:16:07
Added a snapshot of my progress. Alpha legends are done and the next thing to do is to place side printed legends and then finish off the mods.
I'm aiming to finish the first cut for prototyping by the end of the week.
Looks nice. Will you create an international kit?

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Probably not because it is already based on a particular set of ISO legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:45:29
I think OS keys should be neutral. I use macos linux and windows too. Super, Code or diamond is better suitable, at least for me.


How does enjoypbt sound? I got a set, a japanese pbt alpha set (not sure if enjoybpt), which sounds annoying high pitched, when compared to gmk abs, or to oem vortex pbt.
I personally like the sound and feel of them but your preferences may be different.

On a separate note, 60 people have filled out the latest form and these are the results so far:
(Attachment Link)

Windows 95 is leading but the diamond key isn't too far behind. What do people think about my previous suggestion of adding 1u diamond keys and 1.5u super keys in conjunction with 1u and 1.25u Windows 95 keys?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set (25/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: tomu on Tue, 26 March 2019, 00:36:23
+1 for icon mods to keep it as OG as possible.

Also hoping for R5 but that'll require new molds.

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set (25/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 26 March 2019, 02:52:36
+1 for icon mods to keep it as OG as possible.

Also hoping for R5 but that'll require new molds.

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Sorry, icon+text won out in the survey.

I've attached a quick update. This is the kit as it stands. I've tried to cut out split spacebar compatibility to get the kit size down but still leave all the necessary compatibility for layouts.
Also, I've provided options for the OS key to meet peoples' preferences since the results in the current survey aren't unanimous.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (26/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Pheyn on Tue, 26 March 2019, 16:44:51
Kit looks grood to me! Easily should fit any of the boards I own. Happy too that there's way less keys overall than greyscale so hopefully it'll be a decent bit cheaper  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (26/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: mdlt97 on Tue, 26 March 2019, 17:56:05
the Y key should not have > if the ansi left shift doesnt have and option for  <

either make an extra Y without or make a extra shift with <
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (26/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 26 March 2019, 18:16:59
the Y key should not have > if the ansi left shift doesnt have and option for  <

either make an extra Y without or make a extra shift with <
Good point. I think I'll go with an extra Y rather than adding a < to the shift.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (26/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Tue, 26 March 2019, 21:02:08
I think one non-original addition that could be nice is a blue accent kit to match the blue sub legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (26/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 26 March 2019, 21:42:34
I think one non-original addition that could be nice is a blue accent kit to match the blue sub legends.
I think that could be nice, just for the Esc and Enter keys. The question then would be whether to use the mod colour like GMK Blue Alert or alpha colours for the base key.

EDIT: added the accent keys to the preview in the main post.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 27 March 2019, 08:20:38
Can we get full HHKB support (1.75u CTRL and 1u pipe key)?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 27 March 2019, 13:00:02
Can we get full HHKB support (1.75u CTRL and 1u pipe key)?
Whoops. I remember deleting an extra alpha coloured key because I thought it was related to international ISO because I hadn't added the sideprint yet. I'll get that fixed.
The key count is getting a bit up there now so I want to cull some stuff. First on the list is the 1.5u Fn but I'm wondering about the 1u backspace as well so that I can add the 1.75u control.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 28 March 2019, 02:22:41
Can we get full HHKB support (1.75u CTRL and 1u pipe key)?
Updated.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: yap68 on Thu, 28 March 2019, 04:55:06
Blue accent keys, I like. Will it look good with blue spacebar or just stick back to OG feel?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 28 March 2019, 05:19:02
Blue accent keys, I like. Will it look good with blue spacebar or just stick back to OG feel?
I think that would be a bit overboard. Even the blue enter might be a bit much in some cases.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 28 March 2019, 05:26:09
that blue enter looks really nice gok. awesome job  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Sun, 31 March 2019, 19:10:18
Czech ISO and a blue enter? You have ALL my attention!  :eek: ;D

EDIT: I would like to point out  mistakes in the print on the key right next to P: there should be the / symbol instead of { symbol and there should be a + symbol on the number 1 key above Q.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: mdlt97 on Sun, 31 March 2019, 19:57:56
Sweet, that was the choice i was hoping for

cannot wait for this set!!! looks amazing and has the capability for good layouts
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sun, 31 March 2019, 20:20:46
I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Sun, 31 March 2019, 20:54:57
I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.

A blue spacebar would be truly gorgeous.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:03:31
I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.

A blue spacebar would be truly gorgeous.

Id prefer to keep it understated as is and hopefully keep the price down.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:07:50
Id prefer to keep it understated as is and hopefully keep the price down.

Separate purchase option; like what was done with ePBT Grayscale and extra accent kits.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:20:29
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:21:57
I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.

Czech ISO and a blue enter? You have ALL my attention!  :eek: ;D

EDIT: I would like to point out  mistakes in the print on the key right next to P: there should be the / symbol instead of { symbol and there should be a + symbol on the number 1 key above Q.

I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.

A blue spacebar would be truly gorgeous.

I like the blue enter; would be down for a matching blue spacebar and arrow keys myself.

A blue spacebar would be truly gorgeous.

Id prefer to keep it understated as is and hopefully keep the price down.
Thanks, I'll fix that when I get home.
It seems that few people are wanting more accent keys. What I can do is remove the numpad and 1800/CP compatibility from the base set and bundle that with accent spacebars, arrows and windows+diamond keys.

This would leave compatibility for standard 60%, TKL, tsangan 7u, HHKB, 65% and 75% which is pretty much what most people in this hobby use.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:28:11
It seems that few people are wanting more accent keys. What I can do is remove the numpad and 1800/CP compatibility from the base set and bundle that with accent spacebars, arrows and windows+diamond keys.

This would leave compatibility for standard 60%, TKL, tsangan 7u, HHKB, 65% and 75% which is pretty much what most people in this hobby use.

Sounds good to me!  See what everyone else thinks.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 31 March 2019, 21:35:45
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
And the & symbol on the C as well? I think it makes sense but I'd like others to chime in to see how they feel about this as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Sun, 31 March 2019, 22:06:30
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
And the & symbol on the C as well? I think it makes sense but I'd like others to chime in to see how they feel about this as well.

Yes, & is also accessible through AltGr on the C key. But it is slightly more complicated. If your TKL layout is 87 keys the Czech layout (the Enter is no ISO here but that's irrelevant) looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg). Notice the differences: the key above the enter key misses symbol but this symbol is accessible through AltGr. then there are the three keys between M and Enter. These in combination with AltGr give from left to right: < > *. But these symbol can be accessed more easily if you include the 88th key with the sacrifice of shorter left Shift (and because we can, we add the & symbol as well). Then you get the layout we see in this group buy and there is no need to print the AltGr default options on these three keys between M and Enter (also, it is incredible clumsy procedure to hold AltGr and then press any of these three keys from default finger position).

Conclusion: It really depends what people here decide to do. The current state of the prints with the mistakes out of the way is great. I think it would look nice and continous if the C had the & print.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: dmxtrix on Mon, 01 April 2019, 00:38:09
Can't wait for this set
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 01 April 2019, 04:09:50
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
And the & symbol on the C as well? I think it makes sense but I'd like others to chime in to see how they feel about this as well.

Yes, & is also accessible through AltGr on the C key. But it is slightly more complicated. If your TKL layout is 87 keys the Czech layout (the Enter is no ISO here but that's irrelevant) looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg). Notice the differences: the key above the enter key misses symbol but this symbol is accessible through AltGr. then there are the three keys between M and Enter. These in combination with AltGr give from left to right: < > *. But these symbol can be accessed more easily if you include the 88th key with the sacrifice of shorter left Shift (and because we can, we add the & symbol as well). Then you get the layout we see in this group buy and there is no need to print the AltGr default options on these three keys between M and Enter (also, it is incredible clumsy procedure to hold AltGr and then press any of these three keys from default finger position).

Conclusion: It really depends what people here decide to do. The current state of the prints with the mistakes out of the way is great. I think it would look nice and continous if the C had the & print.
I've updated the kit. Let me know if there are still errors.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 01 April 2019, 06:06:33
Yup, exactly what I want.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Mon, 01 April 2019, 07:52:48
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
And the & symbol on the C as well? I think it makes sense but I'd like others to chime in to see how they feel about this as well.

Yes, & is also accessible through AltGr on the C key. But it is slightly more complicated. If your TKL layout is 87 keys the Czech layout (the Enter is no ISO here but that's irrelevant) looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg). Notice the differences: the key above the enter key misses symbol but this symbol is accessible through AltGr. then there are the three keys between M and Enter. These in combination with AltGr give from left to right: < > *. But these symbol can be accessed more easily if you include the 88th key with the sacrifice of shorter left Shift (and because we can, we add the & symbol as well). Then you get the layout we see in this group buy and there is no need to print the AltGr default options on these three keys between M and Enter (also, it is incredible clumsy procedure to hold AltGr and then press any of these three keys from default finger position).

Conclusion: It really depends what people here decide to do. The current state of the prints with the mistakes out of the way is great. I think it would look nice and continous if the C had the & print.
I've updated the kit. Let me know if there are still errors.

The mistakes are fixed but the legend on C should be &, not . should be on E key. I really like you agreed to compromise and added the blue spacebars to the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Mon, 01 April 2019, 09:25:19
What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (28/03/2019 UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 01 April 2019, 12:41:48
Was the print on the E key considered? It is not included in the original set but the sign accesible through AltGr is default option in many ISO layouts (including the Czech ISO layout..and this set is in Czech ISO). Since basically all AltGr options are printed in the down right corner of the caps the sign should be printed on the E key as well.
And the & symbol on the C as well? I think it makes sense but I'd like others to chime in to see how they feel about this as well.

Yes, & is also accessible through AltGr on the C key. But it is slightly more complicated. If your TKL layout is 87 keys the Czech layout (the Enter is no ISO here but that's irrelevant) looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Keyboard_layout_Czech.svg). Notice the differences: the key above the enter key misses symbol but this symbol is accessible through AltGr. then there are the three keys between M and Enter. These in combination with AltGr give from left to right: < > *. But these symbol can be accessed more easily if you include the 88th key with the sacrifice of shorter left Shift (and because we can, we add the & symbol as well). Then you get the layout we see in this group buy and there is no need to print the AltGr default options on these three keys between M and Enter (also, it is incredible clumsy procedure to hold AltGr and then press any of these three keys from default finger position).

Conclusion: It really depends what people here decide to do. The current state of the prints with the mistakes out of the way is great. I think it would look nice and continous if the C had the & print.
I've updated the kit. Let me know if there are still errors.

The mistakes are fixed but the legend on C should be &, not . should be on E key. I really like you agreed to compromise and added the blue spacebars to the GB!

Oh geez. I should learn reading comprehension.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 01 April 2019, 13:31:52
What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
I'm wanting to match the sideprinted legends. There are a few sets of photos of the original set on deskthority. I think the one that you have been looking at has the side of the cap in shadow which makes the sides darker than the tops.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Mon, 01 April 2019, 21:36:07
What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
I'm wanting to match the sideprinted legends. There are a few sets of photos of the original set on deskthority. I think the one that you have been looking at has the side of the cap in shadow which makes the sides darker than the tops.

I just noticed the original set has no writing on backspace, enters, shifts and tab but your legends include writings. I personally think only symbolic legends look better and it is also more authentic.
Title: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Mon, 01 April 2019, 21:48:40
What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
I'm wanting to match the sideprinted legends. There are a few sets of photos of the original set on deskthority. I think the one that you have been looking at has the side of the cap in shadow which makes the sides darker than the tops.

I just noticed the original set has no writing on backspace, enters, shifts and tab but your legends include writings. I personally think only symbolic legends look better and it is also more authentic.

Several of us have voiced this before, but according to Gok, Icon+Text modifiers won in the poll he conducted a while back. Sad given that I too think purely Icon mods would be more authentic, but it is what it is, I guess...


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:28:38
What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
I'm wanting to match the sideprinted legends. There are a few sets of photos of the original set on deskthority. I think the one that you have been looking at has the side of the cap in shadow which makes the sides darker than the tops.

I just noticed the original set has no writing on backspace, enters, shifts and tab but your legends include writings. I personally think only symbolic legends look better and it is also more authentic.

What kind of blue will the sub legends and accents be? In the Deskthority photos the sub legends look almost navy, which I think would be nice and differentiate the set from Blue Alert.
I'm wanting to match the sideprinted legends. There are a few sets of photos of the original set on deskthority. I think the one that you have been looking at has the side of the cap in shadow which makes the sides darker than the tops.

I just noticed the original set has no writing on backspace, enters, shifts and tab but your legends include writings. I personally think only symbolic legends look better and it is also more authentic.

Several of us have voiced this before, but according to Gok, Icon+Text modifiers won in the poll he conducted a while back. Sad given that I too think purely Icon mods would be more authentic, but it is what it is, I guess...


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These are the results from the first poll
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Jurka on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:43:21
Ah, I see. My apologies, I didn't notice. Shame, I really like the cleanness.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (01/04/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:44:58
I dig it.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (02/04/2019 WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 02 April 2019, 04:54:38
I have fixed the E key and have settled with having the & symbol on the C, even though there would be a double up of this legend for ISO users that split their left shift.
My rationale is that I am optimising the set for the majority and the number of ANSI users far outweigh that of ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (02/04/2019 WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 03 April 2019, 10:16:12
I personally would have preferred the legends to stay as close as possible to the original 3000SAT (i.e. no sub-legends on C and E), since this is meant to be a replica in the end. 

Aesthetically-speaking, adding more sub-legends takes away from the OG board's somewhat sporadic sub-legends, which I am a big fan of. I would be supportive of making those keys optional, however, similar to what you've done with the Z key in regards to the <> legends.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (02/04/2019 WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 03 April 2019, 18:05:12
I personally would have preferred the legends to stay as close as possible to the original 3000SAT (i.e. no sub-legends on C and E), since this is meant to be a replica in the end. 

Aesthetically-speaking, adding more sub-legends takes away from the OG board's somewhat sporadic sub-legends, which I am a big fan of. I would be supportive of making those keys optional, however, similar to what you've done with the Z key in regards to the <> legends.

There are already some differences such as text+icon mods. If I wanted it to be an exact replica, I would have just copied the original as closely as possible 1:1.
I will probably open another poll to confirm whether to keep the additional sublegends though but I really needed to finish this up to a stage where it can be prototyped to check the sideprinted dyesub quality.
Making additional keys is an option but I want to keep the set pretty lean and this is isn't an issue of inconsistencies between ANSI vs ISO layouts like the Y key was.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (02/04/2019 WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 April 2019, 18:14:20
Oh boy, missed this for a while now... Looks great gok :-*
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 26 April 2019, 22:34:11
Renders added. Still waiting on samples.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 27 April 2019, 01:48:18
Whoa, an actual keycap set with Czech legends? Count me the hell in just out of principle
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: cekagekh on Sun, 28 April 2019, 09:56:53
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

I think you will find the community split on what's preferred. But EPBT might want to rework their scooped design.

See my Reddit post demonstrating the problem here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/

I personally like scoops, but I assume fixing this will be pretty expensive, so I'm happy to settle for no scoops.

I second this. The problem with scooped keycaps is the biggest reason that prevents me from getting more epbt sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 28 April 2019, 14:05:57
I've just confirmed with KBDfans that epbt can do purely barred keys so we will run with that.

I think you will find the community split on what's preferred. But EPBT might want to rework their scooped design.

See my Reddit post demonstrating the problem here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/

I personally like scoops, but I assume fixing this will be pretty expensive, so I'm happy to settle for no scoops.

I second this. The problem with scooped keycaps is the biggest reason that prevents me from getting more epbt sets.

Kuro/Shiro, extended 2048 and this will have barred only caps. Extended may also ofter 2 types of d and j keys if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Visionaire on Mon, 29 April 2019, 06:51:40
Still can't believe they're renders. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Pony_Hsieh on Tue, 30 April 2019, 03:14:49
Maybe put the blue Esc, ANSI Enter and Iso Enter into the Accent Kit?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 30 April 2019, 03:24:13
Maybe put the blue Esc, ANSI Enter and Iso Enter into the Accent Kit?
That's probably a good idea. I'll change that for the next kit revision.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 08 May 2019, 16:31:02
This looks so nice mate. I'm in for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: duxbridge on Thu, 09 May 2019, 02:00:05
Very interested in this set!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: sl70309 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 09:09:42
any update on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 15 May 2019, 13:42:39
any update on this?
Still waiting on samples. Any feedback about the current kit is welcomed though. I've been waiting for more before I do another revision.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 15 May 2019, 14:24:11
Tell them to get R5 mod molds. Aside from that, kits look great to me, I'm interested
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: TuCZnak on Wed, 15 May 2019, 14:41:35
any update on this?
Still waiting on samples. Any feedback about the current kit is welcomed though. I've been waiting for more before I do another revision.

May I suggest adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn keys for the 65% and 75% crowd? Probably to the addon kit, for those that like Home/End/PgUp/PgDn more than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End...
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 15 May 2019, 15:35:58
any update on this?
Still waiting on samples. Any feedback about the current kit is welcomed though. I've been waiting for more before I do another revision.

May I suggest adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn keys for the 65% and 75% crowd? Probably to the addon kit, for those that like Home/End/PgUp/PgDn more than Home/PgUp/PgDn/End...

I wouldn't want to add more keys ot the base set but I'd consider adding it to an extension kit if there is enough demand.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: kzlow on Thu, 16 May 2019, 00:19:28
Support! Nice set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 16 May 2019, 12:29:02
Would you just take my moneyz?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 16 May 2019, 15:25:23
Yeah agreed, my money is ready to be thrown at you
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 16 May 2019, 15:29:40
Yeah agreed, my money is ready to be thrown at you

Throw it to me
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: VaclavKucera on Tue, 21 May 2019, 15:26:09
Just czeching in as well to voice my support! Usually I'd argue for better ortho coverage, but it probably wouldn't meet MOQ, so I'll make do with misplaced legends (like R2 PgDn instead of Tab and R3 End instead of Esc).
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 21 May 2019, 16:45:12
Just czeching in as well to voice my support! Usually I'd argue for better ortho coverage, but it probably wouldn't meet MOQ, so I'll make do with misplaced legends (like R2 PgDn instead of Tab and R3 End instead of Esc).
MOQ works a bit differently with EPBT. As long as the base set meets it, they will produce the required quantities for any child kits.
Since this is just a beige set, I could consider doing an ortho kit since it would also be compatible with any of the standard EPBT sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 21 May 2019, 19:31:53
Just czeching in as well to voice my support! Usually I'd argue for better ortho coverage, but it probably wouldn't meet MOQ, so I'll make do with misplaced legends (like R2 PgDn instead of Tab and R3 End instead of Esc).
MOQ works a bit differently with EPBT. As long as the base set meets it, they will produce the required quantities for any child kits.
Since this is just a beige set, I could consider doing an ortho kit since it would also be compatible with any of the standard EPBT sets.

Ortho kit with legends that would color match other beige epbt sets would be dope.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: ST999 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 11:15:28
Just czeching in as well to voice my support! Usually I'd argue for better ortho coverage, but it probably wouldn't meet MOQ, so I'll make do with misplaced legends (like R2 PgDn instead of Tab and R3 End instead of Esc).
MOQ works a bit differently with EPBT. As long as the base set meets it, they will produce the required quantities for any child kits.
Since this is just a beige set, I could consider doing an ortho kit since it would also be compatible with any of the standard EPBT sets.
Would love to have ortho kits!


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Freakenstein on Sun, 26 May 2019, 04:40:07
买特么的 前提是菊花不要歪 多面热升华键帽别变形太厉害了就好
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Dakk1d on Sun, 26 May 2019, 05:03:50
Instabuy if it had an international kit. Looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: jorj_mk on Sun, 26 May 2019, 21:03:41
when are you now planning on running the gb?
assuming it won't be end of may as you don't have samples yet.

EDIT:
I would also like to double check that this set would work with the EnjoyPBT LED Keycaps if I were to want my Lock indicators in the Caps keycap
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 26 May 2019, 21:35:03
Instabuy if it had an international kit. Looks good!
This is a Czech based kit and changing that would be sacrilegious imo.

Just czeching in as well to voice my support! Usually I'd argue for better ortho coverage, but it probably wouldn't meet MOQ, so I'll make do with misplaced legends (like R2 PgDn instead of Tab and R3 End instead of Esc).
MOQ works a bit differently with EPBT. As long as the base set meets it, they will produce the required quantities for any child kits.
Since this is just a beige set, I could consider doing an ortho kit since it would also be compatible with any of the standard EPBT sets.
Would love to have ortho kits!


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I'll work on updating the kits this weekend with this.

when are you now planning on running the gb?
assuming it won't be end of may as you don't have samples yet.

EDIT:
I would also like to double check that this set would work with the EnjoyPBT LED Keycaps if I were to want my Lock indicators in the Caps keycap
Maybe end of June now or beginning or July I think. Don't want to rush it and there are some really nice keysets coming out next month.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Sup on Mon, 27 May 2019, 16:05:14
Definitively joining this would it be also possible for a space bar kit?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 27 May 2019, 16:24:09
Definitively joining this would it be also possible for a space bar kit?
Do you mean like 1.75/1.25/2.25 for split spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: Sup on Tue, 28 May 2019, 06:46:48
Definitively joining this would it be also possible for a space bar kit?
Do you mean like 1.75/1.25/2.25 for split spacebar?

yeah those keys would be nice to have as a separate kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: macclack on Tue, 28 May 2019, 11:01:23
Would you consider doing a R1 1u blue accent Fn key? I think that would look really good, especially with a split right shift setup.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 28 May 2019, 15:12:33
Would you consider doing a R1 1u blue accent Fn key? I think that would look really good, especially with a split right shift setup.
I'll consider it becsuse I'm a fan of quirky options like that. I liked how th RGB mods looked on one of xondat's boards so options like that could be pretty neat.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: jorj_mk on Fri, 31 May 2019, 20:41:20
Would you consider including an R2 Stepped Control key? I prefer the looks of the stepped key there, but use control there rather than caps lock.
Could you also consider adding a coloured Insert key to the Accent kit. I like having the insert key accented to add slightly more colour on a board such as a tkl.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: sl70309 on Fri, 31 May 2019, 22:31:52
looks like ePBT is having hard time to produce samples. bit worry about QC of massive production.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 01 June 2019, 02:13:46
looks like ePBT is having hard time to produce samples. bit worry about QC of massive production.
They are pretty maxed out with production runs. Although I think that QC and producing samples aren't correlated, I think there is a minimum standard that KBDfans will uphold. There may be issues but you can usually count on KBDfans to sort it out.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 07 June 2019, 23:46:33
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: ST999 on Sat, 08 June 2019, 00:39:42
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.

Thanks for adding a ortho kit! Definitely going to buy!

As for the 1u backspace, maybe you could try Back since its commonly used in ortho/40s GMK kits.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 08 June 2019, 01:09:36
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.

In that case, would you consider making it a combined 40s/ortho kit? Hit me up if you need assistance on what keys would be most useful.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 08 June 2019, 14:57:14
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.

In that case, would you consider making it a combined 40s/ortho kit? Hit me up if you need assistance on what keys would be most useful.
Would you be able to list them for me? I mgght add it depending on how many extra keys it would require.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 08 June 2019, 15:35:09
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.

In that case, would you consider making it a combined 40s/ortho kit? Hit me up if you need assistance on what keys would be most useful.
Would you be able to list them for me? I mgght add it depending on how many extra keys it would require.

Most important basics would be:
- R1 2,25u and 2,75u spacebars
- R2 1,25u Tab
- R2 1,75u Enter

That covers vast majority of the 40% keyboards using the "standard" 12u wide layout (AMJ40, Candybar etc.). Rest of the neccessary keys are already in either the base or the ortho kit. If you wanted to also support some other keyboards, then on top of that you'd need:

- R2 1,25u Enter for the MA42, UT47, Tanuki
- R3 1,75u Backspace and R2 1,5u Enter for the Minivan and it's variants
- on top of that R1 1,75u spacebar for one of the Minivan layouts and for Vortex Core
- R2 1,5u Enter for the Daisy and Pearl (Pearl also needs a second R2 1,5u for Tab)

I'm not taking into account "wrongly" legended keys, e.g. if you'd need a 1,5u R1 Shift, then you can just slap a "Super" in there and it's fine, priority is on row profiles. Overall it's 10 keycaps to cover absolutely everything I can think of, quite a stretch from the current 26 key ortho kit. If you could include at least the base 4 and then one or two of the "even weirder" boards, that'd be awesome. I tried sorting them by potential audience, since UT47 and Tanuki just finished successful GBs (and it's just one key) and Minivan is always in stock and fairly popular. Hopefully I haven't forgotten something important or made some blatant mistake.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (27/04/2019 RENDERS ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 08 June 2019, 15:41:44
I've updated the main post with an ortho kit.
I'm not too versed in what is popular so I have text based modifiers except for the backspace key because the word "Backspace" would need to be split onto 2 lines which I thought looked odd.
Let me know what you think.

In that case, would you consider making it a combined 40s/ortho kit? Hit me up if you need assistance on what keys would be most useful.
Would you be able to list them for me? I mgght add it depending on how many extra keys it would require.

Most important basics would be:
- R1 2,25u and 2,75u spacebars
- R2 1,25u Tab
- R2 1,75u Enter

That covers vast majority of the 40% keyboards using the "standard" 12u wide layout (AMJ40, Candybar etc.). Rest of the neccessary keys are already in either the base or the ortho kit. If you wanted to also support some other keyboards, then on top of that you'd need:

- R2 1,25u Enter for the MA42, UT47, Tanuki
- R3 1,75u Backspace and R2 1,5u Enter for the Minivan and it's variants
- on top of that R1 1,75u spacebar for one of the Minivan layouts and for Vortex Core
- R2 1,5u Enter for the Daisy and Pearl (Pearl also needs a second R2 1,5u for Tab)

I'm not taking into account "wrongly" legended keys, e.g. if you'd need a 1,5u R1 Shift, then you can just slap a "Super" in there and it's fine, priority is on row profiles. Overall it's 10 keycaps to cover absolutely everything I can think of, quite a stretch from the current 26 key ortho kit. If you could include at least the base 4 and then one or two of the "even weirder" boards, that'd be awesome. I tried sorting them by potential audience, since UT47 and Tanuki just finished successful GBs (and it's just one key) and Minivan is always in stock and fairly popular. Hopefully I haven't forgotten something important or made some blatant mistake.
I'll have to check whether epbt have molds for those keys. Iirc, extended 2048 had to cut out some kits for this reason.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (08/06/2019 ORTHO KIT ADDED, STILL WAITING FOR SAMPLES)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 08 June 2019, 16:10:56
R2 1,25u mold wasn't available, but apparently they were working on it? It might be already available when this set gets to manufacturing.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 15 June 2019, 16:50:42
Photos from KBDfans of the first samples have been added.
The blue needs some tweaking but the side print quality looks promising. The Sys Rq and Break looks a bit blurry and thick so I'll need to check what is going on with those keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: mdlt97 on Sat, 15 June 2019, 17:01:12
**** me gok, sample looks so gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Wongstongs on Sat, 15 June 2019, 17:18:27
Yupp thats some quality ****
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Visionaire on Sat, 15 June 2019, 20:06:39
Really loving the samples. Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: otanishock on Sat, 15 June 2019, 20:57:23
This would go so well with Keycult no.2. Nuts!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sat, 15 June 2019, 21:01:00
HOoooly moly those samples are gorgeous... this just went from a "pretty cool" to a "must buy".
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sat, 15 June 2019, 21:28:36
The blue accents look very nice!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: mdlt97 on Sat, 15 June 2019, 21:48:02
This would go so well with Keycult no.2. Nuts!


ya the gap on the keycult 2 would be super noticeable,  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Cavemann6 on Sat, 15 June 2019, 22:27:12
these samples look great  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: dmxtrix on Sat, 15 June 2019, 22:34:32
This looks fantastic, I thought the blue front legends would be a little darker, but it might just be the lighting in the og pictures. Can't wait to get a set for myself!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 15 June 2019, 22:37:26
This looks fantastic, I thought the blue front legends would be a little darker, but it might just be the lighting in the og pictures. Can't wait to get a set for myself!
Nope, they should be darker. The reversed dyesubbed accent keys are also quite a bit off.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: sl70309 on Sat, 15 June 2019, 22:50:40
which photo(s) is sample?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: wt5now on Sat, 15 June 2019, 23:10:24
I love rendering but not sample. Rendering is more clear white and modern gray, I think.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: yap68 on Sun, 16 June 2019, 01:00:29
Sample is good with crisp legends and quite accurate colours but not too sure about the blue on the accent kit. Looks a bit too bright and saturated to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: nulltorious on Sun, 16 June 2019, 01:23:11
Sample is good with crisp legends and quite accurate colours but not too sure about the blue on the accent kit. Looks a bit too bright and saturated to me.

I agree. Legends look awesome! But the blue accents look too strong and doesn't match the overall tone.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Eastji on Sun, 16 June 2019, 01:55:35
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FreeChillyHypsilophodon-max-1mb.gif)

Definitely going to pick up a set if/when it makes it to groupbuy
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: otanishock on Sun, 16 June 2019, 11:25:32
This would go so well with Keycult no.2. Nuts!


ya the gap on the keycult 2 would be super noticeable,  :D

At least still have one 😂
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: mdlt97 on Sun, 16 June 2019, 14:30:57
This would go so well with Keycult no.2. Nuts!


ya the gap on the keycult 2 would be super noticeable,  :D

At least still have one 😂

id rather not have one tbh, no way I'm subjecting myself that, that's like bragging about having a disability
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sun, 16 June 2019, 15:46:18
Sample is good with crisp legends and quite accurate colours but not too sure about the blue on the accent kit. Looks a bit too bright and saturated to me.

Agree. I vote for a more navy-like blue.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 17 June 2019, 01:16:19
id rather not have one tbh, no way I'm subjecting myself that, that's like bragging about having a disability
To each their own :) Don't want to start arguing with people who try to criticize stuffs that they don't even have and just based off of internet pictures  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: glubazoid on Mon, 17 June 2019, 01:24:00
Sample is good with crisp legends and quite accurate colours but not too sure about the blue on the accent kit. Looks a bit too bright and saturated to me.

Agree. I vote for a more navy-like blue.

^^

Blue is nice, navy blue is nicer
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: ARSLOCK on Mon, 17 June 2019, 09:13:17
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 17 June 2019, 15:03:03
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?

I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Mon, 17 June 2019, 15:21:17
I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.

Great idea!  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 17 June 2019, 15:27:47
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?

I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.

Please Do! I would totally buy an accent kit with all the blue keys for other epbt sets I have.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: sl70309 on Mon, 17 June 2019, 16:58:29
can we have plain pictures of actual samples? no PS, no keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 17 June 2019, 17:38:21
Are the blue accent keys doubleshot or laser etched PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: dmxtrix on Mon, 17 June 2019, 18:20:24
Are the blue accent keys doubleshot or laser etched PBT?

They are reverse dyesubbed.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 17 June 2019, 18:28:42
Are the blue accent keys doubleshot or laser etched PBT?

They are reverse dyesubbed.

TIL.. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 June 2019, 19:15:51
man can i just get a full set of blanks dyesubbed in that blue please and thanks :(
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 17 June 2019, 19:39:49
man can i just get a full set of blanks dyesubbed in that blue please and thanks :(

Not on topic but wow, that'd be incredible. Like red riot but blue and better.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: vicissitude on Mon, 17 June 2019, 20:32:08
Ready to buy.
When will the GB start?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: ARSLOCK on Wed, 19 June 2019, 11:28:31
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?

I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.

100% would get a few of those accent kits if you did this.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Dakk1d on Wed, 19 June 2019, 11:43:47
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?

I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.
Was gonna ask about this then I read your comment.
Great idea and how it should be tbh. That way people with EPBT Greyscale or whatever can use the accent kit as well.

Icon only mods would look better aswell. Both 9009 and greyscale use enter keys without text, combining those kits with the accent kit from this gb would look a bit wierd because of the text on the enter key.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: r5d on Thu, 20 June 2019, 03:37:37
Fantastic Set, guaranteed buy! Gok, you are a credit to the community! First kuro/shiro and now this, excellent!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 20 June 2019, 04:27:08
Any chance to add a blue ansi enter to the add-on kit?

I'm thinking about moving all the blue keys into the accent kit so people that aren't interested in the base set can use it with other sets.
Was gonna ask about this then I read your comment.
Great idea and how it should be tbh. That way people with EPBT Greyscale or whatever can use the accent kit as well.

Icon only mods would look better aswell. Both 9009 and greyscale use enter keys without text, combining those kits with the accent kit from this gb would look a bit wierd because of the text on the enter key.
I think there are already a lot of icon mod kits out there and the blue accent kit is meant to pair up with this set.
Also, there is already a blue epbt that this would go nicely with
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: temp0321 on Fri, 21 June 2019, 18:41:08
Estimated price for it?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: jedidood on Tue, 25 June 2019, 00:43:57
I was 90% in for the 7V, and I was looking for a set of keycaps... This completed sold both of me, I am in! The blue accents compliment the blue 7V very well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 28 June 2019, 16:38:07
I want a set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Tequila_Heineken on Mon, 01 July 2019, 08:11:54
Any chance for the same set, but with ANSI legends in the future? If not, well, I'll at least pick up an accent kit. I have the stock enjoyPBT blue set by the way, but the legends and warping aren't great on that one sadly.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 01 July 2019, 09:23:14
These are really nice looking. Hope to get in.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 03 July 2019, 18:46:05
Are you looking at an early or late July GB? Definitely interested. 
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 04 July 2019, 05:39:21
Just saw Photekq's photos here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43865.msg2783328#msg2783328) and remembered about this IC.

I'm soo looking forward for this!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 06 July 2019, 12:18:02
How long is this expected to run. I see its supposed to start this month, trying to figure out how long I would have to save up the cash.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 06 July 2019, 12:42:58
Wait so long.
When can we buy?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 06 July 2019, 15:39:06
How long is this expected to run. I see its supposed to start this month, trying to figure out how long I would have to save up the cash.

Wait so long.
When can we buy?

The samples are on their way to me now. After I check them, I'll be making some small adjustments and getting some colour samples remade to tweak the blue. I want to have the colour sorted before we head into GB so that everybody knows exactly what they are getting into.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Sat, 06 July 2019, 15:56:43
I want in.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 06 July 2019, 17:18:48
How long is this expected to run. I see its supposed to start this month, trying to figure out how long I would have to save up the cash.

Wait so long.
When can we buy?

The samples are on their way to me now. After I check them, I'll be making some small adjustments and getting some colour samples remade to tweak the blue. I want to have the colour sorted before we head into GB so that everybody knows exactly what they are getting into.
How long do you commonly run them for?


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 06 July 2019, 18:31:19
How long is this expected to run. I see its supposed to start this month, trying to figure out how long I would have to save up the cash.

Wait so long.
When can we buy?

The samples are on their way to me now. After I check them, I'll be making some small adjustments and getting some colour samples remade to tweak the blue. I want to have the colour sorted before we head into GB so that everybody knows exactly what they are getting into.
How long do you commonly run them for?


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KBDfans typically have group buy windows of 4 weeks.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 06 July 2019, 21:07:38
How long is this expected to run. I see its supposed to start this month, trying to figure out how long I would have to save up the cash.

Wait so long.
When can we buy?
KBDfans typically have group buy windows of 4 weeks.

The samples are on their way to me now. After I check them, I'll be making some small adjustments and getting some colour samples remade to tweak the blue. I want to have the colour sorted before we head into GB so that everybody knows exactly what they are getting into.
How long do you commonly run them for?


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 12 July 2019, 22:00:11
Here are some photos I've just taken.
(https://i.imgur.com/qQPhFUK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c4meVjR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mAlw4rm.jpg)

The blue needs to be a tad darker but I'm pretty happy how this is looking.
Some of the alignments need to be fixed and the "Sys Rq" green is off so hopefully, they will get it right in the next batch.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 23:23:58
Looks like a pretty sweet set. I like the blue accents.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Sat, 13 July 2019, 00:16:22
Here are some photos I've just taken.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qQPhFUK.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c4meVjR.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mAlw4rm.jpg)


The blue needs to be a tad darker but I'm pretty happy how this is looking.
Some of the alignments need to be fixed and the "Sys Rq" green is off so hopefully, they will get it right in the next batch.


Oh, my gosh...   :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: yap68 on Sat, 13 July 2019, 00:54:15
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Sat, 13 July 2019, 01:01:38
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.


NO! That blue is perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 13 July 2019, 01:27:10
Yes darker please
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 13 July 2019, 06:28:11
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.


NO! That blue is perfect.
Too bad it'll be fixed to being darker.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: dallman5 on Sat, 13 July 2019, 12:02:44
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.


NO! That blue is perfect.

Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: e_bb on Sat, 13 July 2019, 12:05:06
Here are some photos I've just taken.

The blue needs to be a tad darker but I'm pretty happy how this is looking.
Some of the alignments need to be fixed and the "Sys Rq" green is off so hopefully, they will get it right in the next batch.

I really do like the blue from these few runs. What will you do with the sets?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Sat, 13 July 2019, 12:26:20
Here are some photos I've just taken.

The blue needs to be a tad darker but I'm pretty happy how this is looking.
Some of the alignments need to be fixed and the "Sys Rq" green is off so hopefully, they will get it right in the next batch.

I really do like the blue from these few runs. What will you do with the sets?
Sell them to me!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 13 July 2019, 18:36:47
Colors are so good.
How is  the spacebar?
Please show some pictures of the horizontal spacebar.
Thanks.


Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: e_bb on Sat, 13 July 2019, 19:04:41
Here are some photos I've just taken.

The blue needs to be a tad darker but I'm pretty happy how this is looking.
Some of the alignments need to be fixed and the "Sys Rq" green is off so hopefully, they will get it right in the next batch.

I really do like the blue from these few runs. What will you do with the sets?

Me first...
Sell them to me!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 13 July 2019, 19:48:48
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.


NO! That blue is perfect.

Yes.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: jedidood on Sat, 13 July 2019, 20:02:31
Well, it looks pretty good. Just a tad darker on the blue will be perfect.


NO! That blue is perfect.

Yes.

+1

Agreed.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 13 July 2019, 20:11:13
I think it's hard for us to tell what the blue really looks like in person.  I'll let Gok be the judge.  For me, blue is one of the hardest colors to accurately capture in photos.  That and yellow... and orange, and red...   I can't get any color to represent well in photos
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 13 July 2019, 20:24:11
I think it's hard for us to tell what the blue really looks like in person.  I'll let Gok be the judge.  For me, blue is one of the hardest colors to accurately capture in photos.  That and yellow... and orange, and red...   I can't get any color to represent well in photos
I'll be taking more pics later but I can say that I am not happy with the quality of the spacebars that I've received. The base of the keycap looks faded and the colour overall is inconsistent.

There seems to be a divide between those that like the current blue and those that want it darker. I'll be going for darker on the next round of samples and I'll decide which I like best after I compare them.

Regarding capturing colour in photos, I'd say white is definitely the hardest because it is affected so much from lighting conditions as you can see from my photos of Kuro/Shiro. You always need a frame of reference for it to get an idea of what it looks like in person.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: pirho on Sat, 13 July 2019, 22:08:34
While I'm late to the party, consider me very interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Sat, 13 July 2019, 22:16:29
I think it's hard for us to tell what the blue really looks like in person.  I'll let Gok be the judge.  For me, blue is one of the hardest colors to accurately capture in photos.  That and yellow... and orange, and red...   I can't get any color to represent well in photos
I'll be taking more pics later but I can say that I am not happy with the quality of the spacebars that I've received. The base of the keycap looks faded and the colour overall is inconsistent.

There seems to be a divide between those that like the current blue and those that want it darker. I'll be going for darker on the next round of samples and I'll decide which I like best after I compare them.

Regarding capturing colour in photos, I'd say white is definitely the hardest because it is affected so much from lighting conditions as you can see from my photos of Kuro/Shiro. You always need a frame of reference for it to get an idea of what it looks like in person.


You do what you gotta do. I was just voicing that I like that blue tone, but you go with the best color for your design.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 13 July 2019, 22:33:14
Leaning towards darker blue.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: dmxtrix on Sun, 14 July 2019, 01:03:11
I'll take whatever blue gok thinks is best.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 14 July 2019, 23:27:33
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 15 July 2019, 22:42:08
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
I am actually wanting to make them darker.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 16 July 2019, 07:12:25
I always want to pass your projects Gok...

But... they're just so nicely done.

:cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 12:58:48
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
I am actually wanting to make them darker.

Oh well, it's your design. I still dig it. Been thinking it would be nice to do a bunch of accent sets from epbt. You could do all sorts of color combos with a set like 9009.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 16 July 2019, 17:30:11
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
I am actually wanting to make them darker.

Oh well, it's your design. I still dig it. Been thinking it would be nice to do a bunch of accent sets from epbt. You could do all sorts of color combos with a set like 9009.

But the whole idea is to remake a Cherry G81-3000SAT keyset so gok is working towards that. There's an accent kit in the OP that's not in the original keyset. Overpowering this keyset with non-original add-ons... I don't know if that's really worth it. It's a beautiful keyset by itself, even without accents.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 16 July 2019, 18:20:50
But the whole idea is to remake a Cherry G81-3000SAT keyset
^ Pretty much this tbh.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: mellen on Tue, 16 July 2019, 20:24:03
beige looks good nvm
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Jurka on Tue, 16 July 2019, 21:41:16
Curious about the darker blue, let's see it. I really like the white and the beige here, very subtle and elegant. This is gonna be gut.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 02:26:46
I always prefer injecting some subtle modifications into an original keyset rather than just another replication.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 09:10:16
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
I am actually wanting to make them darker.

Oh well, it's your design. I still dig it. Been thinking it would be nice to do a bunch of accent sets from epbt. You could do all sorts of color combos with a set like 9009.

But the whole idea is to remake a Cherry G81-3000SAT keyset so gok is working towards that. There's an accent kit in the OP that's not in the original keyset. Overpowering this keyset with non-original add-ons... I don't know if that's really worth it. It's a beautiful keyset by itself, even without accents.
No I totally get it. And I tend to start with accent moods and then ditch them for the plain look. My 9009 set is currently all beige.


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: kolicivan on Thu, 18 July 2019, 17:40:05
Another one late to the party. But count me in for this for sure. I just don't know how will I afford this and MT3 Serika.
Blue accents look so good, everyone of them, Ecs, Spacebar, Arrows, Enter.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 18 July 2019, 17:50:02
I like the accents. The extras give you option to choose which one you want to use, so I approve :)


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: cyriously on Thu, 18 July 2019, 19:39:01
Must buy for me until I realized there is no split spacebar kit. Is there any plan for it?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sup on Fri, 02 August 2019, 07:16:58
Must buy for me until I realized there is no split spacebar kit. Is there any plan for it?

I am pretty sure you can just get a L9 Split spacebars from Hineybush spacebar GB since he has extras for pre order. https://hineybush.com/products/gmk-og-spacekeys If you are willing to put extra cash to the side it will work out  :).
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: e_bb on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:38:03
Must buy for me until I realized there is no split spacebar kit. Is there any plan for it?

I am pretty sure you can just get a L9 Split spacebars from Hineybush spacebar GB since he has extras for pre order. https://hineybush.com/products/gmk-og-spacekeys If you are willing to put extra cash to the side it will work out  :).

Would be nice to have a pbt instead of abs, especially in the blue color.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: 1Weeb on Thu, 08 August 2019, 15:24:46
What is the "ICE-3000sat" that KBDfans is showing, it's an all white version of this set, will that be an option for this GB or just a sample for separate GB?

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 08 August 2019, 15:57:22
What is the "ICE-3000sat" that KBDfans is showing, it's an all white version of this set, will that be an option for this GB or just a sample for separate GB?

(Attachment Link)
It's something KBDfans wants to do but I'm unsure whether they will be running this alongside or as a separate GB.
It would be easier for them to do it together because it would use the same setup for the side printing.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 08 August 2019, 16:08:21
What is the "ICE-3000sat" that KBDfans is showing, it's an all white version of this set, will that be an option for this GB or just a sample for separate GB?

(Attachment Link)

Where did you see that?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: 1Weeb on Thu, 08 August 2019, 18:36:02
What is the "ICE-3000sat" that KBDfans is showing, it's an all white version of this set, will that be an option for this GB or just a sample for separate GB?

(Attachment Link)

Where did you see that?

It's on KBDfan's website front page slideshow thing, here's the link https://kbdfans.com/blogs/interest-checks/epbt

Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt G81-3000 SAT set
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 August 2019, 03:44:54
Just out of curiosity, why is epbt unable to do scooped homing keys?
I have epbt caps that are scooped and have bars as well. Dunno if all epbt are made the same.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Kilo_o on Thu, 15 August 2019, 07:51:32
This looks great :)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 15 August 2019, 08:22:26
Anymore updates?
Also, Cherry logo cap PLEASE!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 15 August 2019, 10:13:57
What was the method to access double Alt Gr characters in the original board?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: adxlk on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:28:41
Are the accents keys a bit dark?
I am actually wanting to make them darker.

i agree with you. btw, if you want further guide to perfect this set, you could contact photekq (hi mum#0001)
he is very familiar with vintage boards so yeah..

Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 15 August 2019, 14:19:16
Anymore updates?
Also, Cherry logo cap PLEASE!  :thumb:
I'll be updating the set once I get a list of key profile that epbt can make. One of the changes is including convex 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars.

I won't be adding cherry keys sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sup on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:14:35
Anymore updates?
Also, Cherry logo cap PLEASE!  :thumb:
I'll be updating the set once I get a list of key profile that epbt can make. One of the changes is including convex 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars.

I won't be adding cherry keys sorry.

Thanks for adding convex spacebars  :).
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:46:50
Anymore updates?
Also, Cherry logo cap PLEASE!  :thumb:
I'll be updating the set once I get a list of key profile that epbt can make. One of the changes is including convex 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars.

I won't be adding cherry keys sorry.

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: dmxtrix on Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:02:53
When is GB projected to run?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: mellen on Sat, 17 August 2019, 01:04:53
nvm f epbt
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sup on Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:34:14
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:42:32
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
That is correct. Better to wait now rather than to have delays during the GB (like Kuro/Shiro).
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:55:20
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
That is correct. Better to wait now rather than to have delays during the GB (like Kuro/Shiro).

When do you think the second sample will get to you?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Wongstongs on Mon, 09 September 2019, 13:00:07
Any update on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 09 September 2019, 13:43:00
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 September 2019, 15:32:22
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Sup on Mon, 09 September 2019, 15:59:52
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.

Yup it's based on the classic Cherry beige color scheme.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: depletedvespene on Tue, 10 September 2019, 05:15:58
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: r5d on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:52:10
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)

Kuri/Shiro is expected to finish production around Sept 20. See: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101576.msg2809057#msg2809057
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 11 September 2019, 09:23:34
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)

Kuri/Shiro is expected to finish production around Sept 20. See: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101576.msg2809057#msg2809057

Thanks. I look forwards to see this come to life.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: kolicivan on Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:07:47
Any ballpark estimate on the price of this thing?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: rora on Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:32:13
Excited for this. I hope it turns out great.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:32:47
Still waiting for this to start! :P
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: tonny950111 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:04:01
Definitely interested, and will probably grab one spotwhen this GB go alive.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: r5d on Mon, 14 October 2019, 04:30:29
Any ballpark estimate on the price of this thing?

Probably similar to Kuro/Shiro.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 07 November 2019, 13:31:38
ne update avail?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 07 November 2019, 16:14:14
ne update avail?  ;D
I will be working on this again once Kuro/Shiro is shipped which it still hasn't :(

I've got it all planned out so it shouldn't take long before I update the kits. In the meantime, I've ordered some Pantone samples of various blues that I'm planning to send in for colour matching since the colour for the first prototypes were quite a bit off from what I had specified. In saying that, I'm also looking to go for a darker blue anyway.
Title: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 07 November 2019, 17:24:39
Is it too late to ask for Icon Mods please?? :(


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: LeoZ on Mon, 25 November 2019, 19:15:03
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 25 November 2019, 21:30:16
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: LeoZ on Mon, 25 November 2019, 21:48:52
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 25 November 2019, 22:46:12
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: LeoZ on Mon, 25 November 2019, 22:59:19
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.
Sounds good, compatibility is really all I was looking for. Really looking forward to this groupbuy :)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 26 November 2019, 01:05:45
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Oh, these are great news! Still rooting for this keyset. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 26 November 2019, 01:55:27
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.

Good call. Excited for the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 26 November 2019, 10:41:30
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Big IF that it will happen, but supposedly Simple JA Enjoypbt will have convex spacebars in 2.25u and 2.75u. If Enjoypbt can do convex now please try to get yours in convex as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:06:41
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Big IF that it will happen, but supposedly Simple JA Enjoypbt will have convex spacebars in 2.25u and 2.75u. If Enjoypbt can do convex now please try to get yours in convex as well.
Kuro/Shiro and extended2048 had seperate barred and scooped homing keys that they seem to have gotten stingy with, but hopefully they make all these improvements available to every set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: Waterrmelonn on Sun, 08 December 2019, 04:00:35
Any updates on this since Kuro Shiro has started shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 08 December 2019, 04:07:40
Any updates on this since Kuro Shiro has started shipping?
I've started updating the kits and my Pantone samples have arrived and I should be able to submit the revised design to epbt by the end of next week.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 15 December 2019, 13:50:47
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: ctrlshiftba on Sun, 15 December 2019, 14:46:04
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.

Looks good. You should throw accent split space bars in that Alice kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: yap68 on Sun, 15 December 2019, 20:14:10
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.

Looks good. You should throw accent split space bars in that Alice kit.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sun, 15 December 2019, 21:28:52
Any chance of getting the blue Esc and Enter into the accent kit?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 26 January 2020, 17:58:38
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.

Yup it's based on the classic Cherry beige color scheme.

Thank you for the feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 28 January 2020, 20:30:23
These will definitely be gracing my gskt-00. Oh yes, they will.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 29 January 2020, 19:14:30
Two remarks:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Kinesiologist on Tue, 25 February 2020, 20:42:13
the GB for this set hasn't started right?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 25 February 2020, 22:47:54
Two remarks:
  • R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn (R2 and R1 in EPBT's notation) are missing. Could you add them to the base kit?
  • The hčky (diacritics) on ěčř etc. in the number row are very oddly proportioned they're way too large. I realize this this is how they were in the original set, but you should take this opportunity to improve on old Cherry legends, as you've done in the past.
I'll need to think about including the extra pg up and pg dn keys. They aren't that common and I'm trying to keep this set pretty trim. Regarding your second suggestion, I'd prefer to keep them roughly the size they currently are because it'd be more consistent with general symbol sizes but also, as you mentioned, it would be closer to the original.

the GB for this set hasn't started right?
Still waiting for the next round of samples.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: MadsMe on Wed, 26 February 2020, 02:33:36
Is there any chance that you will have a nordic add-on as you have a german add-on or is that too niche?
Great work on this set, love the colorscheme!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 26 February 2020, 06:46:29
Regarding your second suggestion, I'd prefer to keep them roughly the size they currently are because it'd be more consistent with general symbol sizes but also, as you mentioned, it would be closer to the original.

Keep in mind that in actual typefaces diacritics are never that big. You're willingly choosing to err on the side of Cherry's laziness / lack of expertise from 30 years ago. This is just one example; arguably, even worse offenders are Cherry's original Russian Cyrillic legends, the Greek word-final sigma legend, etc. It's a good thing that those legends aren't used in modern keysets anymore. They would look out of place on sets with modern quality expectations and level of attention to detail, and it would appear as if someone just hadn't put enough time and effort into doing the research on what those legends should look like. I know how much attention to detail you put into your sets, Gok, which is why I think that you should fix those legends.

If you'd like to keep the glyphs consistent with sizes of other symbols, then make the base characters larger and diacritics smaller. But imo, just reducing the diacritics' size would look great. Just make sure it's an actually typographically correct glyph in the end. As anyone who types Czech on a daily basis will be able to tell you, those characters should not look like they currently do in the renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sat, 21 March 2020, 03:11:06
Is it possible that this would be delivered around the same time that the 7V would be shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sat, 21 March 2020, 17:47:28
Is it possible that this would be delivered around the same time that the 7V would be shipping?
Hard to say because these will have totally independant timelines.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: qz2015 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:38:01
Hi there, what is the thickness of keycaps? Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Exemplar on Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:47:23
Hi there, what is the thickness of keycaps? Thanks.

ePBT is around 1.3/1.4mm.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: bow3i on Wed, 08 April 2020, 12:01:23
Looks nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: pngu on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:57:16
hello yes thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Luka on Thu, 23 April 2020, 06:52:09
i need this, my favorite gmk set i've seen so far
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 23 April 2020, 06:54:45
I want this to happen so bad....  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: break on Thu, 23 April 2020, 13:36:27
Same here! Just waiting for more news once gok has more time.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:42:42
Same here! Just waiting for more news once gok has more time.
I'm still waiting for the next prototypes. The reversed dyesubbed keys are giving them issues still.
Worst case is that these becomes black legends on blue so that they no longer need to reverse dyesub them.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 23 April 2020, 21:46:47
any chance of a blue enter key for the numpad as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: vallaton on Thu, 14 May 2020, 16:10:41
keeping an eye on this set. would love to get an international kit as an extra (don't mind missing the , but fear that the Y/Z is going to make my head hurt in a mandela effect sort of way), but understand and appreciate that it's the OG layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 15 May 2020, 08:31:34
Same here! Just waiting for more news once gok has more time.
I'm still waiting for the next prototypes. The reversed dyesubbed keys are giving them issues still.
Worst case is that these becomes black legends on blue so that they no longer need to reverse dyesub them.

Honestly the black legends wouldn't be too bad. No color or shrinking issues and possibly slightly lowering pricing?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 08 June 2020, 16:05:33
Personally, I would like not 100% perfect white on blue than black on blue.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: KMPLSV on Mon, 29 June 2020, 19:38:47
this set still have a pulse?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 29 June 2020, 20:27:46
this set still have a pulse?
I've been told that EPBT are remaking all their moulds which will supposedly help with the quality of reverse dyesubbed keys. I'm waiting for them to finish this so I can try another round of samples for the accents.
New moulds might help with the spacebar and warping issues as well as provide proper convex spacebar support for smaller spacebars like those used on Alice layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:04:18
this set still have a pulse?
I've been told that EPBT are remaking all their moulds which will supposedly help with the quality of reverse dyesubbed keys. I'm waiting for them to finish this so I can try another round of samples for the accents.
New moulds might help with the spacebar and warping issues as well as provide proper convex spacebar support for smaller spacebars like those used on Alice layouts.

New moulds would be great, but don't they already have smaller convex bar moulds? SimpleJA had them
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:34:22
this set still have a pulse?
I've been told that EPBT are remaking all their moulds which will supposedly help with the quality of reverse dyesubbed keys. I'm waiting for them to finish this so I can try another round of samples for the accents.
New moulds might help with the spacebar and warping issues as well as provide proper convex spacebar support for smaller spacebars like those used on Alice layouts.

New moulds would be great, but don't they already have smaller convex bar moulds? SimpleJA had them
Possibly. They've always had 3u convex but I'm not sure about 2.25 and 2.75.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: crosscutgymnast on Fri, 17 July 2020, 20:48:58
any news on this set? what's the status of EnjoyPBT new molds
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: heartbreak on Thu, 13 August 2020, 16:54:50
any update on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 13 August 2020, 18:32:51
Still nothing from them.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: kajahtaa on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:49:29
Heard the moulds are almost done.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: pRoDeeD on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:31:26
More stuff like this please!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 14 October 2020, 01:41:56
I've been told that the new moulds for the spacebars are ready and the rest will be done at the end of this month or early next month.
KBDfans have ordered some spacebar samples so hopefully, we can nail the blue.

I've changed the kit a bit. The biggest change is that the accent keys will be black on blue rather than reversed dyesub because the blue was proving hard to produce to a reasonable standard.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 14 October 2020, 15:53:01
The biggest change is that the accent keys will be black on blue rather than reversed dyesub because the blue was proving hard to produce to a reasonable standard.
This set just keeps getting better.
NOT BEING SARCASTIC BTW personally prefer regular dyesub
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: jack47 on Wed, 14 October 2020, 20:58:22
Finally some good news  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: verity on Wed, 14 October 2020, 22:27:12
Good to see some progress with this set. Has been on my radar for awhile now  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: DevilZmods on Wed, 21 October 2020, 09:49:14
Would you consider adding just 2 R4 1.5u and 2 R2 1.5u keys to the ergo set? that would actually give the kit some lightweight boardwalk/ergodox support as well as non-ortho 40s support for some of the more adventorous layouts.
legends could be R2 shift, enter and r4 esc, delete or blank.

Edit: i think those keycaps in standard cherry colors could be a buying incentive for people who already own a base kit in similar colors
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 21 October 2020, 12:44:08
Would you consider adding just 2 R4 1.5u and 2 R2 1.5u keys to the ergo set? that would actually give the kit some lightweight boardwalk/ergodox support as well as non-ortho 40s support for some of the more adventorous layouts.
legends could be R2 shift, enter and r4 esc, delete or blank.

Edit: i think those keycaps in standard cherry colors could be a buying incentive for people who already own a base kit in similar colors
I remember EPBT not having moulds for non-ortho 40%
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 21 October 2020, 14:48:20
Would you consider adding just 2 R4 1.5u and 2 R2 1.5u keys to the ergo set? that would actually give the kit some lightweight boardwalk/ergodox support as well as non-ortho 40s support for some of the more adventorous layouts.
legends could be R2 shift, enter and r4 esc, delete or blank.

Edit: i think those keycaps in standard cherry colors could be a buying incentive for people who already own a base kit in similar colors
I remember EPBT not having moulds for non-ortho 40%

Ivory was one of the first I believe to run more 40's compat, and should be shipping out soon, so there's a definite chance that these keys are now possible from epbt.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/nomad_2400x1350.png?v=1590614692)
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Wed, 21 October 2020, 15:09:15
Would you consider adding just 2 R4 1.5u and 2 R2 1.5u keys to the ergo set? that would actually give the kit some lightweight boardwalk/ergodox support as well as non-ortho 40s support for some of the more adventorous layouts.
legends could be R2 shift, enter and r4 esc, delete or blank.

Edit: i think those keycaps in standard cherry colors could be a buying incentive for people who already own a base kit in similar colors
I remember EPBT not having moulds for non-ortho 40%

Ivory was one of the first I believe to run more 40's compat, and should be shipping out soon, so there's a definite chance that these keys are now possible from epbt.

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/nomad_2400x1350.png?v=1590614692)

In that case, I could run a proper 40s kit since moqs for epbt don't work the same as GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (12/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 21 October 2020, 15:23:08
Hmm . I like
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: GMK83 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 08:20:53
Im really happy that this project is still moving along.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: ButDutWut on Sun, 08 November 2020, 18:22:26
Feel like I saw a little peek of this on the 65% teaser. Both looking good.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 08 November 2020, 18:28:01
Feel like I saw a little peek of this on the 65% teaser. Both looking good.
That was the old sample from way back. Still waiting for the new prototypes to be completed.
I thought that the navy accent worked really well so I'm giving the reversed dyesubbing another chance.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: LeoZ on Mon, 09 November 2020, 23:13:56
When do you plan to run this GB? I imagine it's gonna be between the 7V and Type-K. Also, really excited for the Type-K and how you made it compatible, keep up the great work!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: CountKeepo on Tue, 10 November 2020, 10:11:26
Any chance of a NORDE/International kit? This kit is from the ePBT 9009 kit.
There's no IC form so no other way of providing feedback.

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Tue, 10 November 2020, 12:04:42
When do you plan to run this GB? I imagine it's gonna be between the 7V and Type-K. Also, really excited for the Type-K and how you made it compatible, keep up the great work!
It will run whenever I'm satisfied with the samples. Currently waiting for new moulds.

Any chance of a NORDE/International kit? This kit is from the ePBT 9009 kit.
There's no IC form so no other way of providing feedback.

(Attachment Link)
The original set is qwertz so I was wanting to keep it that way. The other issue is that international kit requires too many sideprinted legends if it were to match the set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Auslander on Wed, 02 December 2020, 01:02:02
This is just amazing, 100% keeping an eye on this, wow  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 18 December 2020, 06:13:31
I wonder if the new moulds are completed? Any estimation GB date?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Fri, 18 December 2020, 12:15:27
I wonder if the new moulds are completed? Any estimation GB date?
I haven't heard anything yet. They have been working on the dark blue accent key though but they haven't got that right yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Aritega on Fri, 08 January 2021, 19:10:39
Do you plan on adding other proxies?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Ramen Champ on Sat, 09 January 2021, 14:28:13
Gok is my hero
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: krzank on Sun, 10 January 2021, 00:10:58
Original icon mods please.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: DERBS on Sun, 17 January 2021, 07:18:11
Original icon mods please.

Yes plz.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 21 January 2021, 13:15:17
Original icon mods please.
This ^


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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Thu, 21 January 2021, 13:54:48
Do you plan on adding other proxies?
Probably not.

Original icon mods please.

Yes plz.

Original icon mods please.

Original icon mods please.
This ^


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I've already been through this process and there won't be any major changes made to the set.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 23 January 2021, 03:30:55
I've already been through this process and there won't be any major changes made to the set.

Is there any chance however that you would be able add another R1 1u Alt to the basekit, so the keyset can cover proper HHKB bottom row key layout; in this case 1u Alt, 1.5 Super, 7u, 1.5 Super, 1u Alt?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: elongatedmusk on Thu, 18 February 2021, 20:07:16
 With other EPBTs starting their groupbuy, will this also follow up soon?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Rx003 on Fri, 19 February 2021, 02:56:24
Yes yes and yes! Ill just get some of my GMK spacebars and im good for epbt haha  :)) Good luck with this Gok!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: danawanb on Sat, 13 March 2021, 07:00:53
any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: LordHaveMercy on Sun, 14 March 2021, 19:44:48
Two years in the making... Maybe this set might finally head to GB this summer. I understand ePBT had some massive troubles trying to get reversed dye-sub to work on their molds...

I also know the Cherry G81-3000 had those ugly dark beige modifier keys, so... can't really do much about that... It's part of the nostalgic value, I suppose lol. I just love all the printed legends! Hopefully they can get this figured out soon enough!

I'd love to own a set if I have enough spare cash when it happens!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 14 March 2021, 19:50:02
The spacebar moulds are complete but from what KBDfans have been telling me, the rest of the keys aren't ready yet so I'm hesitant to push ahead until they are done.
The blue spacebar sample they sent is really straight and flat and the colour is good. I would need to see the reverse dyesubbing on the mods to confirm whether we will go with the accent keys or not.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Mon, 19 April 2021, 07:31:15
So looking forward to this set!
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Waterrmelonn on Sun, 20 June 2021, 02:00:39
Hope this set comes to fruition.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 20 June 2021, 06:06:28
Hope this set comes to fruition.
I should be getting some new samples in the next couple of months.
It will hopefully run this year.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 20 June 2021, 08:45:33
Is there any chance however that you would be able add another R1 1u Alt to the basekit, so the keyset can cover proper HHKB bottom row key layout; in this case 1u Alt, 1.5 Super, 7u, 1.5 Super, 1u Alt?

Gok, is this definitely out at this point?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 20 June 2021, 08:49:04
Awesome to see this project moving forward. Will 100% get in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Neely_12 on Sun, 20 June 2021, 11:09:24
Blue is nice. Beige is nice. What is not to like
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: adsfqwer on Sun, 20 June 2021, 12:10:28


Hope this set comes to fruition.
I should be getting some new samples in the next couple of months.
It will hopefully run this year.

Is that an abnormally high lead time for prototypes/samples? Are you still waiting on new tooling?
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Waterrmelonn on Tue, 22 June 2021, 19:24:16
Hope this set comes to fruition.
I should be getting some new samples in the next couple of months.
It will hopefully run this year.
Sounds great! Can't wait for this to run :)

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Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: ThomasLT on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:15:51
take my money
Title: Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (23/10/2020 KIT UPDATE)
Post by: Arithmetics on Tue, 20 July 2021, 18:10:16
still pumped for this