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Title: [IC] EPBT Hemkund (Samples have arrived)
Post by: Avijit on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:30:03
EPBT Hemkund

(https://imgur.com/szJ7hdU.jpg)


Samples (https://imgur.com/a/z7VvjJU)
This is EPBT Hemkund


Theme music (https://youtu.be/vTIIMJ9tUc8?t=26)
Please consider playing this while you read the IC



The goal of the set was to bring a unique sublegend to keycaps which is rarely used, Gurmukhi. Gurmukhi is the written form of Punjabi. Additionally the layout is inspired by the Gurmukhi Inscript layout.

The inspiration for the set comes from the Sikh Temple of Hemkund Sahib, This temple was built in the late 1600s to early 1700s. The temple itself is found deep in India and within the Himalayan mountains, and is surrounded by mountain peaks on all sides. You can see one of the reference images below, along with an explanation of the colour choices made.
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  • Darkish green was chosen to represent the surrounding grass and flora
  • Bluish White for the snow and the roof
  • Blue for the pond/lake, aquamarine is pretty ugly so i wanted a more clear blueish color
  • Beige for the stone
(https://imgur.com/1PAe8bf.jpg)


Regarding the sublegend placements you can learn more below
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The sublegend placements were done by referencing the 2 layouts below, in combination with the input for Gurmukhi found on different OS if there are any issues or corrections please do let me know and I can make changes immediately. Some legends were omitted, due to busyness and some repeats.
(https://imgur.com/ew7vDcp.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/SrXsHmy.jpg)


IC FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-QhkIXRBep5K8K_T7emY5uxZ5f0fkko7MEQFSIh1ZI391fw/viewform?usp=sf_link)
DISCORD (https://discord.gg/apexkeyboards)


The discord link leads to the Apexkeyboards server if you are interested in getting updates or asking me questions you can also do so there.


Kits and Board Renders

Kits
Each base kit supports iso, windowed keys, and a decent amount of options for 60-TKL(F13), 1 base kit+ 1 set of alphas should cover up to and including 2 tkls.


Base
(https://imgur.com/8xV1AXv.jpg)

Alt Alphas
(https://imgur.com/0ZllJyb.jpg)

Novelties
(https://imgur.com/qtptTpF.jpg)

Spacebars
(https://imgur.com/Na9mKt9.jpg)

Numpad
(https://imgur.com/22UWNVc.jpg)

Mac
(https://imgur.com/BiQpGKc.jpg)

Abnormal (just some weird ****)
(https://imgur.com/WnCDjvD.jpg)

Macro
(https://imgur.com/aCbdtlC.jpg)

40s
(https://imgur.com/DlNMXU6.jpg)


Outdated renders can be found here.
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Base
(https://imgur.com/FD0BeGs.jpg)

Novelties
(https://imgur.com/jE1OgqI.jpg)


Spacebars
(https://imgur.com/LY4KNx2.jpg)

Numpad
(https://imgur.com/6qqJ5QL.jpg)

Mac
(https://imgur.com/ew7vDcp.jpg)

Please keep in mind I am still finalizing the files and there are some alignment and positioning adjustments that need to be made, I am working on those currently.


Boards

(https://imgur.com/yMXXQ7f.jpg)
Jaguar from SingaKBD

(https://imgur.com/8b3lqO0.jpg)
Nascent from Reticent

(https://imgur.com/cQ9lnCj.jpg)
Argyle from Seoulcialite

IC FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-QhkIXRBep5K8K_T7emY5uxZ5f0fkko7MEQFSIh1ZI391fw/viewform?usp=sf_link)

You can find additional renders, reference images, Pantone colour, and more here.
More (https://imgur.com/a/3NoVY9V)


VENDORS

  • CAN: ApexKeyboards
  • US: Meikbo
  • EU: Mykeyboard
  • UK: Prototypist
  • OCE: DailyClack
  • SEA: Monokei
  • India: rectangles.store
  • CHINA & Worldwide: KBDfans


Artisans

  • PrimeCaps
  • KugCaps
  • BlackMageCaps
  • MelonCaps


Cables

We will be offering a limited stock of 5 foots USB-A to USB-C cables from noodlecords

Thank you guys for being willing to work with me on this project. If you are interested in working with me on this project as a collaborator feel free to message me on discord, Avi#6046

PRICING

TBD, We have requested initial quotes based on current kitting to gauge the costs of the kits as they are now



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

  • The ApexKeyboards discord will be the most updated source of info
  • GB Date: TBD
  • This is still an IC, if you have any suggestions/comments free to let me know via the form.



HUGE THANKS TO:
  • My Mom
  • Vince(Apexkeyboards) for taking this Project on
  • Marco for the amazing renders
  • BlackSimon,Nu_types, Hugo for letting me bug them about the kitting and design
  • Wong, Noodle, Kevin, JW for giving their input when I wasn't sure of what I was doing
  • My Friends from the PHub server for the brutally honest feedback and letting me bounce ideas off them
  • MathewDias with help with the 40s kit
  • everyone else I shared this with and provided feedback
  • #DellMembraneGang
Click here to seehow the set started and the importance of feedback (https://i.imgur.com/evpDCGB.png)
Title: Re: EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:31:01
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Comments regarding the samples( the pictures werent taken with studio lights or anything the outdoor ones were taken in the afternoon on a sunny day,  the indoor were in my room with a warm over head light)
First of all im thankful to finally get these it has been so long since we requested them. Its a relief to have gotten them.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: o3okevin on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:36:00
mega
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: JinDevil on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:36:41
nice
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: GaNeBaL on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:36:41
v nice
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:38:55
let's goooooo
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: jaebeus on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:40:53
thanks mom for the set
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: kajahtaa on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:50:16
Love this
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:56:55
Nutty subs


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Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 04 November 2021, 13:58:29
Been waiting on this one! Looks fantastic  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 04 November 2021, 14:26:03
Nice to finally see the IC for this :)
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Zetina on Thu, 04 November 2021, 14:39:43
Such a nice set

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Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: reticent on Thu, 04 November 2021, 14:51:24
Glad this is finally in official IC phase. Looking forward to getting this for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: CaptainVinceO2 on Thu, 04 November 2021, 15:41:24
Super excited about this set! Great job Avi!
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: DrHigsby on Thu, 04 November 2021, 16:52:22
Hey there, Really like what you've done with the set here!

I have some feedback for the 40s kitting specifically.

1) Looks like 1.25u shift is missing. Please add it

2) R2 Control/Code is an odd choice for 40s. There is already bottom row control, so Code/Send is preferable.

3) Alt Gr is also a strange choice and has no specific meaning for 40s. I recommend Meta instead.

4) BKSP should just be Backspace.

5) R3 1.5u backspace is missing. Please add it.

6) The big bar should just go into alt alphas. It does not need to be here in 40s.


Otherwise, GLWIC! I am a fan of your theming and colors  :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: darthcapn on Thu, 04 November 2021, 17:47:11
Khoob changa! Love the representation and the color choices! So rare to see such cool subs! Makes me wanna get some devnagri sublegend too! Maybe some day in the future I'd come up with an idea hah! Love the implementation!

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Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Ustinj on Fri, 05 November 2021, 01:57:33
Great work man, can see a lot of effort and time put into this and it shows
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 05 November 2021, 02:10:38
Love this shade of green! Definitely picking up a set when it's live.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Dyto69 on Fri, 05 November 2021, 03:25:45
I clicked on this and was amazed that this is actually nice, I really like the colors. Looks very classic with some spice
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: sagarsiddhpura on Fri, 05 November 2021, 03:48:04
This is very nice
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: white_rabbit on Fri, 05 November 2021, 15:06:31
Really like the inspiration for this colorway! Agree with Higsby on the kitting changes though. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Fri, 05 November 2021, 17:21:58
Quote from: white_rabbit on Fri, 05 November 2021, 15:06:31
Really like the inspiration for this colorway! Agree with Higsby on the kitting changes though. :thumb:
I will take some of the recommendations and implement them as we get closer to the gb, thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: silhouette88 on Fri, 05 November 2021, 18:33:25
Thank you for suggesting the theme music. It felt like a party in my head. Awesome looking set, I am very interested. Well done.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: azzipa on Sat, 06 November 2021, 08:50:54
 very nice work with the theme, colors and kits! glwic  :thumb:


(personally i would love to see “x” and “÷” instead of “*” and “/“ in numpad.)
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Sat, 06 November 2021, 21:28:51
Quote from: azzipa on Sat, 06 November 2021, 08:50:54
very nice work with the theme, colors and kits! glwic  :thumb:


(personally i would love to see “x” and “÷” instead of “*” and “/“ in numpad.)

I appreciate the kind words, thanks for the feedback ill look into this
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: vheissu on Sun, 07 November 2021, 16:49:51
Been waiting for this for a long time. Such nice work Avi! GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: hottnucks on Sun, 07 November 2021, 19:36:18
Any chance for a mods only kit to go with the Latin Alphas? OR a Latin Alphas base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Mon, 08 November 2021, 09:52:44
Quote from: hottnucks on Sun, 07 November 2021, 19:36:18
Any chance for a mods only kit to go with the Latin Alphas? OR a Latin Alphas base kit?
. More than likely no at the moment
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Loquerish on Sat, 13 November 2021, 03:18:33
Very cool looking Subs
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: redlion145 on Fri, 26 November 2021, 23:34:43
This is pretty cool. I have an unreasonable obsession with sublegends of all kinds. I have some of the more common language sublegends - katakana and hiragana, Arabic, Cyrillic, hangul - but I've made it a mission recently to get more and more of the uncommon ones. This set will fit in, and if I may say so, looks to be of a lot higher quality than I had to settle for with some other language sets.

Is it just me though, or are the Gurmukhi numerals quite small? I had to zoom in on the renders to see them. Not really an issue on the alphas, but the numerals I had trouble distinguishing. Other than that, this is looking really good.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Michabc on Sat, 27 November 2021, 13:46:23
Nice colours and great sublegends - please look into making the Mac kit more useful by adding support for Mac keyboards like us international
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: JohnYYZ on Sat, 27 November 2021, 18:32:47
I must admit.... the music made the IC much better  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Tweec on Sun, 28 November 2021, 14:12:42
Really digging those blue subs!
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: lunatictaco on Sun, 28 November 2021, 14:55:35
Novelties are nutty
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Phractals on Sun, 28 November 2021, 17:37:09
This set is so beautiful and well thought out, all this needs is an International Kit with sublegends to be literally perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Tue, 07 December 2021, 23:58:38
Quote from: lunatictaco on Sun, 28 November 2021, 14:55:35
Novelties are nutty

Thank you, I am super happy with how they turned out, lets hope the samples are as nice as the renders
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Wed, 08 December 2021, 01:58:45
Love the theme and novelties fit it perfectly. Good job
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: macclack on Sun, 23 January 2022, 13:52:41
Beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: JQ27 on Sun, 23 January 2022, 16:19:02
Loving the look of this, but not fully sure what ISO support is going on here? I can see the UK-ISO keys for the numrow, but it looks like it's using Terminal ISO keys for the rest? Also, if you're adding some ISO support, it's much appreciated if they also include the sublegends, otherwise it can look awkward if those keys are used.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Wed, 26 January 2022, 00:28:11
Quote from: JQ27 on Sun, 23 January 2022, 16:19:02
Loving the look of this, but not fully sure what ISO support is going on here? I can see the UK-ISO keys for the numrow, but it looks like it's using Terminal ISO keys for the rest? Also, if you're adding some ISO support, it's much appreciated if they also include the sublegends, otherwise it can look awkward if those keys are used.
will make the changes regarding the numrow sublegends, if you can tell me what I am missing for proper uk-iso let me know and I will make the necessary changes/updates
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: JQ27 on Wed, 26 January 2022, 04:05:09
I think it depends on what support you want to go after.

If you want to go for Terminal-ISO then it can easily be accomplished by removing the numrow keys and as you've already got the sublegend on the \ | next to enter then that would be perfectly fine.

But if you want to include UK-ISO it would require some additional changes to the kitting and sublegend arrangement.

In the above, this means that the R1 \ | can remain a blank sublegend key.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: WhatsForLunch on Wed, 26 January 2022, 05:05:35
Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: MSA_Vision on Thu, 27 January 2022, 04:15:52
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D
As an Indian, I love it.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Sun, 30 January 2022, 20:58:47
Quote from: JQ27 on Wed, 26 January 2022, 04:05:09
I think it depends on what support you want to go after.

If you want to go for Terminal-ISO then it can easily be accomplished by removing the numrow keys and as you've already got the sublegend on the \ | next to enter then that would be perfectly fine.

But if you want to include UK-ISO it would require some additional changes to the kitting and sublegend arrangement.
  • Sublegend replicated from ~ ` for base to ¬ ` on the UK-ISO key
  • Sublegend replicated from 2 @ for base to 2 " on the UK-ISO key
  • Sublegend replicated from 3 # for base to 3 £ on the UK-ISO key
  • Addition of following keys on R2 ' @ and # ~
  • Addition of R1 \ | key
  • Sublegend replicated from " ' for base to the ' @ key.
  • Sublegend replicated from \ | for base to the # ~ key.

In the above, this means that the R1 \ | can remain a blank sublegend key.
Thanks for the help, ill make sure to update these specific keys.
Title: Re: [IC] EPBT Hemkund
Post by: Avijit on Sat, 23 July 2022, 13:07:22
Sorry for the lack of updates I have added the images of the samples we received a few days ago.