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Title: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:53:04

GB Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112566)



(https://i.imgur.com/YP29bIB.png)
Prototypes (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110180.msg2991993#msg2991993)
IC Form V2 (https://forms.gle/TMjsTwVxLeha811f9)                 Discord (https://discord.gg/DK3yrAN4XS)       

Running April 30th
Arch Linux: A minimal Linux Distribution with a focus on Modernity, Simplicity, Versatility, User Centrality, and Pragmatism

Hey Geekhack! My name's Ram and I'm here to show my first ever keyset, GMK Arch, it's a keycap set inspired by the 5 principles of
Arch Linux which were stated above. This is a Linux Distro I’m especially fond of, and use daily as my main. 3 of its 5 principles,
Modernity, Versatility, and Simplicity, have influenced this set. A portion of the proceeds will be donated to the Arch Linux Foundation.
(Percentage will be 10-15%)

# ls gmk-arch/colors
(https://i.imgur.com/9H0lScM.png)

# ls gmk-arch/kits
│The Shell Kit is where it all starts, containing everything you need for the most common layouts along with               
│alternatives if you want a mod pipe or no accent keys.                                                                                                 
├── Shell                                                                                                                                 
(https://i.imgur.com/vzdBWDE.jpg)
│The TTY Kit is for those minimalists who prefer a uniform design, and allows you to use a full black                         
│and teal set, including an extra tab key so you can cover two boards of course.                                                       
│                                                                                                                                                                                     
 ├── TTY                                                                                                                                 
(https://i.imgur.com/L7RAHqR.jpg)
│The Powerline Kit WIll cover any spacebar needs you might have.                                                                             
│                                                                                                                                                                                     
 ├── Powerline                                                                                                                         
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFJ0Ljh.jpg)
│The GCC Kit will cover most niche layouts(Ortho/Ergo/40s) that you may use,                                                             
│and acts as a 2nd base kit with the included alphas!                                                                                                     
 ├──   GCC                                                                                                                               
(https://i.imgur.com/027xfro.jpg)
│The Localization Kit Covers most European ISO layouts.(MOQ Will be Guaranteed)                                                                                             
 ├── Localization                                                                                                                     
(https://i.imgur.com/lJ6iBy0.jpg)
│Can't handle a terminal? No problem, just install the GUI and you're set with full icon mods!                                   
│For people like me who prefer just having icons over the busy look of text.                                                             
 ├── GUI                                                                                                                                 
 (https://i.imgur.com/C0N6lej.jpg)
│The true way to show everyone that you use Arch, the superior distro, with an Arch logo and an                               
│I use Arch BTW Key included for that finishing touch.                                                                                                 
│                                                                                                                                                                                     
 ├──AUR                                                                                                                                 
(https://i.imgur.com/jso6ne2.jpg)


# ls gmkarch/deskmats
Samples Recieved in Prototype Post(1st Comment)
 ├── Deskfetch                                                                                                                         
(https://i.imgur.com/SrGCklK.png)
 ├── Deskview                                                                                                                         
(https://i.imgur.com/DsHDJdn.png)
 ├── Trimat                                                                                                                               
(https://i.imgur.com/rAkXXRc.png)
kits subject to refinement


# ls gmk-arch/renders

Loading...

 ├── Iron165 by Smith+Rune (https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-smith-rune-iron165-keyboard?_pos=9&_sid=0359ac9cb&_ss=r)                                                                                                                               
(https://i.imgur.com/8ak7QGw.jpg)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/X2jcqn2.jpg)
                                         

├── TGR Alice by yuktsi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95054.0)                                                                                                                                         
(https://i.imgur.com/qp3QmM9.jpg)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/qzJ6Xgh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Hg49zc4.jpg)


├── TGR 910 RE by yuktsi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85771.0)                                                                                                                                     
 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831277453879279616/834881887511642112/GMKArchFixedEsc2.png)
More
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831277453879279616/834881880565743636/GMKArchFixedEsc.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831277453879279616/834881882185269278/GMKArchInkPoly1.png)

├── KL90 by Kiko (https://kikoslab.com/products/kl-90-keyboard-aluminum-edition-raffle-winners?variant=37001133555878)                                                                                                                                                       
(https://i.imgur.com/2vpRs0E.jpg)


├── Horizon by Hand Engineering (https://discord.com/invite/NjzC8pe)                                                                                                                     
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEh37qN.jpg)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/H9mVsjK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BrxNh1N.jpg)


# ls gmk-arch/vendors
All vendors have now been locked in, with their sites listed below, kitting has been sent to gmk for quotes as well.
                                                                                                                                           
    ├── US: Mechs & Co.  (http://mechsandco.com/)    ├── CA: AshKeebs (http://ashkeebs.com/)         ├── SA: Fancy Customs (https://fancycustoms.com/)
    ├── EU: mykeyboard.eu (http://mykeyboard.eu)  ├── OCE: DailyClack (http://dailyclack.com/)        ├── SEA: ILUMKB (http://ilumkb.com/)     
    ├── UK: protoTypist (https://prototypist.net)           ├── KR: SwagKeys (https://swagkeys.com/)           ├── CN: KBDFans (http://kbdfans.com/)   
    ├── NR: Tastatur(Mekanisk) (http://tastatur.no/)                                                                           

# ls gmk-arch/Collaborations
(https://i.imgur.com/pj3dABy.png)   
├── Cables:
  Bear Cables (https://www.bearcables.com/) & Zeus Cables (http://zeusworks.eu)
├── Artisans:
  Metal: Asero Foundries (https://www.instagram.com/aserofoundry/)
  Resin: ArtKey (https://artkeyuniverse.com/), Latrialum (https://www.instagram.com/latrialum/), Golden Star Keycaps (https://www.instagram.com/goldenstar_keycap/), Fraktal Kaps (https://fraktalkaps.com/) MigiCaps (https://www.instagram.com/migicaps/) GTBLabs (https://www.instagram.com/glenntheblack/)
 DreadKeys (https://www.instagram.com/dreadkeys/) SkullCaps (https://www.instagram.com/skull.keycaps/)  Archetype (https://www.archetypemade.com/) Clackeys (https://www.clackeys.com/) KeyCravings (https://www.instagram.com/keycravings/) WinKeys (https://www.instagram.com/winkeys.artisans/)
LandCaps (https://www.instagram.com/landcaps.keycap/) RascalCaps (https://www.instagram.com/fiscal_rascal/) KrakenKap (https://www.instagram.com/krakenkap/)
├── Sleeves:
  MechFashion (https://mechfashion.com/)
├── Wristrests:
  Mechkey.store (https://mechkey.store/)
├── Switch Opener:
Nutcracker V2 (https://ilumkb.com/collections/accessories/products/flash-sale-hard-anodized-nutcracker-v2)
Protos/Renders for Collabs to be shown soon!
# ls gmk-arch/Pricing       
(https://i.imgur.com/CBB8X4z.png)

# ls gmk-arch/To Do
Get Asero Engraved Photos

 # ls gmk-arch/readme.txt

Credits:
DeskFetch: Myself
Trimat: Adxlk
Novelties: RayHungHingDailo
Logo: RayHungHingDailo
Kit Renders:Dudeship
Keyboard Renders: Thanks to SGhost and Skok for these great Renders!
Huge Thanks:  Huge thanks to Nick's Clicks for all the help with the set and
especially the IC draft, this set would be no where near the same if it wasn't for you.  Koha, iinko, Shiba, Allie, Ray, and SGhost for being a
monumental part of keeping me motivated and helping the set improve.
General Thanks: Bunny for helping me fix my lighting, Swishy, Lumi, Bachoo, Nathan, Guill3m, Halo, and Salt!(I definitely missed a
few people) You all played a huge part in making the set what it is now.

Add This to Your Signature to Help Support GMK Arch!

Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110180.0][img width=320 height=120]https://i.imgur.com/kHAb7Jq.png[/img][/url](https://i.imgur.com/kHAb7Jq.png)

Use of the Arch Logo and Name Approved by the Arch Trademark team
I Understand that This Set Does Look Like GMK Apollo, but I have recieved permission from
Octix to run this set.
Proof of This can be sent by request

Contact
/u/Plasmusang on Reddit
@kushpapi._._ on Instagram
Ramlord#2733 on Discord


Changelog   
As of 12/18/20
Added Color Codes To IC
Added F13 to Base
Vendors Announced
Moved extra B to the powerline kit.
Move 1.25u Tab down 1 row,
Swapped Simplified Arch with True Arch Logos
As of 12/23/20
A few of the first collaborations are Announced
2nd Deskmat Announced
As of 2/23/21
New Vendor and Renders Announced
mechfashion samples announced
As of 2/28/21
Deskmat Banding Fixed and sent for protos
Kitting Updates Announced
Color Code Graphic Updated to be more accurate
As of 4/08/21
Deskmat Protos Recieved
Collaborations announced
GB Date Announced
Mechfashion Images Updated
Wrist Rest Prototypes announced
New Vendors added
As of 4/25/21
Prices Announced
New Collaboration Announced
New Kit Renders
Collab Renders and Protos added
New Board Renders
IC Streamlined
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:53:29
Reserved: Any and all proto images or renders will be posted here once received
MechFashion Keyboard Sleeves:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/7drGZcC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2mPVu5j.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DWD2yz5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4WFWu5n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w16bIjN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lnbsJaU.jpg)

Nutcracker
More
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787940648757100556/835516439267901490/Nutcracker_V2_Rendering_File_2021-Apr-24_07-37-22AM-000_CustomizedView8700137806_png.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787940648757100556/835516439515234304/Nutcracker_V2_Rendering_File_2021-Apr-24_08-18-16AM-000_CustomizedView36868528146_png.jpg)

Mechkey.store Wrist Rests:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/GfXY9Ar.png)

Deskmat Prototypes:
          Deskfetch:
         
More
(https://i.imgur.com/n2yDmlr.jpg)
          (https://i.imgur.com/SPDQxNx.jpg)

          Trimat:
         
More
(https://i.imgur.com/swjLWDF.jpg)
          (https://i.imgur.com/aCljMb4.jpg)

          Both:
         
More
(https://i.imgur.com/0fMMTgZ.jpg)
          (https://i.imgur.com/VxO8OBE.jpg)
          (https://i.imgur.com/X7CZeqQ.jpg)

Zeus Cables:
          Braided: (https://zeusworks.eu/products/arch-braided-cable)
         
More
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786505220795531294/817417797071011851/GMK_Arch-1.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786505220795531294/817417798891601950/GMK_Arch-2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGgbL2.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786505220795531294/817417799323877447/GMK_Arch-4.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786505220795531294/817417802352820314/GMK_Arch-5.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786505220795531294/817417803585028096/GMK_Arch-6.jpg)

          Normal: (https://zeusworks.eu/products/arch-artisan-cable)
         
More
(https://i.imgur.com/hTLUFhg.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YGCyKUU.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f2cjTy2.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3DNGEoA.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d4VvOmy.jpeg)

Bear Cables:
More
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786490524655026207/834646732457508874/P4210407.jpg)

DreadKeys:
More
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787854722560294919/834858636337348648/unknown.png)

Asero Foundries:
          3D:
         
More
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785720416119029832/835198291293372416/IMG_0620.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785720416119029832/835198287790735370/IMG_0621.jpg)

          Engraved:
         
More
(https://i.imgur.com/NFL1Ae5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IuLQz3u.png)

Clackeys:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/nOmYolU.png)

Artkey:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/AXlPqe3.jpg)

WinKeys:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/kQwM53a.jpg)

LandCaps:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/OV7J79N.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Shiba1337 on Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:53:59
Love it! I am willing to try arch btw
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: RIFT on Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:58:25
 :thumb: You get 2 thumbs up! GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: ThickJimmy on Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:59:08
Oooffff looks nice!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: lishi on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:00:11
btw i use arch, nice set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:00:39
damnnn that's nice!

i use arch btw
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: HappyB0T on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:04:02
This is really good. High fives for the Huge base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: zedbraxmen on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:04:37
goshdarn, that base (shell) kitting is bae. I use arch btw
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: sickbabies on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:07:35
I love how all four of the renders show the colors differently
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: iinko_mk on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:12:52
great boi
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:13:30
I love how all four of the renders show the colors differently
It's mainly because I commissioned 4 different people, but I totally understand that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:14:27
This is really good. High fives for the Huge base kit.

goshdarn, that base (shell) kitting is bae. I use arch btw

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Oggi on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:14:44
Thick milk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: ilikerustoo on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:14:58
I feel like text mods would be more fitting for an Arch based/inspired set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: meatsmoothies on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:19:04
do you have color codes? with the render thing i think it'd be easier to visualize what we're looking at
( also makes it so if renders aren't accurate it's gucci we know what we're getting )
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:19:42
Thick milk

ofc ofc
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:20:37
do you have color codes? with the render thing i think it'd be easier to visualize what we're looking at
( also makes it so if renders aren't accurate it's gucci we know what we're getting )
I was going to put them into the IC, but didn't want clones to be made, if you personally think that doesn't matter I have codes I can add in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ustinj on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:22:53
that's a slapper
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: ThePanduuh on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:27:00
you guys use windows? you peasants. I use arch linux btw.

linux users just like vegans man, always gotta tell everyone when nobody asked  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: logo4poop on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:27:44
Any void linux edition avail?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: illusixn on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:28:22
(https://i.redd.it/lwc8pmg1owz41.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:30:27
Any void linux edition avail?
smh my head Arch is the only distro
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: AllieBlairThomas on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:30:49
I'm so happy this is coming out! So proud of you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Dotnick on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:31:25
So happy to finally see this up on GH! Excellent job and best of luck with IC and GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: meatsmoothies on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:31:35
do you have color codes? with the render thing i think it'd be easier to visualize what we're looking at
( also makes it so if renders aren't accurate it's gucci we know what we're getting )
I was going to put them into the IC, but didn't want clones to be made, if you personally think that doesn't matter I have codes I can add in.
i mean there's no real downside, if your colors specifically are known that means people will know they're the colors you're using, and personally i find i can make a more informed buying decision with pantones or rals avail
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: logo4poop on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:31:48
Any void linux edition avail?
smh my head Arch is the only distro
Wait its all arch? Never has been.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:37:10
do you have color codes? with the render thing i think it'd be easier to visualize what we're looking at
( also makes it so if renders aren't accurate it's gucci we know what we're getting )
I was going to put them into the IC, but didn't want clones to be made, if you personally think that doesn't matter I have codes I can add in.
i mean there's no real downside, if your colors specifically are known that means people will know they're the colors you're using, and personally i find i can make a more informed buying decision with pantones or rals avail
True, I'll add it in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: baccaan on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:42:57
I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: totalemon on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:45:35
such a clean look :cool: any chance for f13 in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: trung11.kb on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:47:13
Good luck! I switched between Arch and Ubuntu a lot when I was in my "**** Windows" phase.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: baccaan on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:48:51
Good luck! I switched between Arch and Ubuntu a lot when I was in my "**** Windows" phase.

Forever on my "**** Windows" phase. MacOS is more palpable but still not as good as Arch/Ubuntu.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:53:59
such a clean look :cool: any chance for f13 in the base kit?
Will definitely consider adding it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:56:03
Happy to see this on IC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: paperassgasket on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:09:09
RIP CentOS.
Long live GMK Arch
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:13:20
RIP CentOS.
Long live GMK Arch
Stream can't keep up to the glory of GMK Arch
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:27:30
So happy to finally see this up on GH! Excellent job and best of luck with IC and GB  :thumb:
Thanks Man!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: BearCableCo on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:36:16
very nice set. I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Zytyx on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:39:02
Honestly phenomenal. I'd suggest not changing that base kit for anyone, as it includes keycaps I've missed from older GMK sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: logo4poop on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:41:20
RIP CentOS.
Long live GMK Arch
Wait CentOS is gone? Such good memories.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: tngpq on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:42:24
Count me in. Very nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: adxlk on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:45:07
Hello, do you want to collab on the second deskmat?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: kk73715 on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:46:41
huge fan of the kitting, great coverage, even better for the community

hope this gets to GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:55:40
Hello, do you want to collab on the second deskmat?
Hey yeah sure I'd be down, dm me on my discord if it's possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: noorejji on Mon, 14 December 2020, 00:22:03
GMK install gentoo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 00:33:55
GMK install gentoo
must compile keycaps from source
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Lysol_ on Mon, 14 December 2020, 00:37:33
reminds me of Dracula and this will likely run before Dracula finishes color matching. im in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: dibstern on Mon, 14 December 2020, 00:45:31
Looks handsome! I’m a bit unsure about it, I feel like I should be more excited by the colours but the renders leave me a little underwhelmed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: tommyhongg on Mon, 14 December 2020, 00:56:12
I would like to see an F13 in base. Otherwise, I like it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: asherw on Mon, 14 December 2020, 01:17:14
hyped for this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 01:39:25
I would like to see an F13 in base. Otherwise, I like it.
Will be added in, and for anyone else reading just to make sure I'm not overloaded I'll make changes every few days so I can do a few all at once
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: notc4r1 on Mon, 14 December 2020, 02:14:08
I'm in for the set AND all the goodies.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: underling on Mon, 14 December 2020, 02:18:01
Where is the Arch blue?

Arch set without that iconic blue logo anywhere? :(

The 'A' logo doesn't look much like the Arch "A"

Love the idea of -SYU, will be chronically annoyed that it's not "-Syu"

Love the Pacman key.

Overall I like the colors but imo it definitely needs the Arch blue *somewhere* as an accent.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 02:29:49
Where is the Arch blue?

Arch set without that iconic blue logo anywhere? :(

The 'A' logo doesn't look much like the Arch "A"

Love the idea of -SYU, will be chronically annoyed that it's not "-Syu"

Love the Pacman key.

Overall I like the colors but imo it definitely needs the Arch blue *somewhere* as an accent.

Hey, so I personally thought it would be nicer to mute the blue a bit into a teal so it would fit with the minimalism more, and the same reasoning goes for the simplified Arch Logo. You don't know how mad I am at myself for not noticing what was wrong on Syu and that will be changed for the final product. Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 14 December 2020, 02:53:01
Is this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy
an issue at all?

Edit: I'm actually asking btw.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: hkiri on Mon, 14 December 2020, 02:53:43
Am I even allowed to use this, even though I use arch for noobs manjaro?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 03:09:10
Is this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy
an issue at all?

Edit: I'm actually asking btw.
Hey like I said in the post, I have explicit permission from the trademark team to run the set so all is good on that end
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 03:10:00
Am I even allowed to use this, even though I use arch for noobs manjaro?
I'll make an exception for the shell kit, the rest you need to use vanilla arch for smh
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Lenux on Mon, 14 December 2020, 03:15:33
Insane set count me in!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 14 December 2020, 03:23:55
Well, I’m in. I don’t use Linux anymore, and I have zero attachment to the theme, but the colors are great, the deskmat is nice, and the novelties look good even without context.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: roguesystem087 on Mon, 14 December 2020, 03:53:31
now that's one hell of a set, nicely done, can't wait for the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: SirKhamenman on Mon, 14 December 2020, 04:36:21
Like the colorset. Surely interested with this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: VXQN on Mon, 14 December 2020, 05:14:53
Not sure about the SYU/YAY/SUDO novelties as they look a little out of place, but I love the colours/general vibe of this set. Am I allowed to use it if I use Manjaro, though?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 14 December 2020, 05:33:46
I feel like text mods would be more fitting for an Arch based/inspired set

Same, I feel like this would look 110% better with just text mods and maybe a separate icon mod kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 14 December 2020, 06:06:48
The following keys can be removed from the kits since they either serve no practical purpose or are not commonly used. Sorted top to bottom from “totally useless” to “somewhat useful but may not be worth including”.
In place of these, keys to consider adding are F13 to base (as previously mentioned in the thread) and 2× 1.5u Super to base and GUI (in which case you would keep the second 1u Alt keys).


I feel like text mods would be more fitting for an Arch based/inspired set

Same, I feel like this would look 110% better with just text mods and maybe a separate icon mod kit.

I'm inclined to say that text mods would be a good idea. It would probably give the set a bit more character and tie in a bit better with the theme. On the other hand, I think that keeping the current look and adding the GUI kit mods on top is also a nice prospect.

Edit: correction
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 14 December 2020, 07:08:15
For the novelties I liked the first Arch logo better in your prelim IC thread. The one with the lines going through it so it looked like ASCII art.

The new logo looks too much like something from iOS
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: patcoll on Mon, 14 December 2020, 08:40:40
Any chance for a 1.5 diamond in the GUI set? For Tsangan/HHKB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: homerowco on Mon, 14 December 2020, 08:55:37
absolutely missed the opportunity to make a BlackArch mod kit to introduce a mixed colorway... ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Bonsa on Mon, 14 December 2020, 09:11:01
no "btw" novelty? disappointed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 09:42:20
no "btw" novelty? disappointed.
Look at the aur kit, there's one there haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:25:14
This one looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Bonsa on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:26:49
Look at the aur kit, there's one there haha
Ahhh dumb me was looking for a 1U key!
Nice! I like the colors for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: underling on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:33:45
Hey, so I personally thought it would be nicer to mute the blue a bit into a teal so it would fit with the minimalism more, and the same reasoning goes for the simplified Arch Logo. You don't know how mad I am at myself for not noticing what was wrong on Syu and that will be changed for the final product. Thanks for the feedback!
Are there other sets that explicitly cop the name of a beloved property/theme and then go out of the way to change its logo and core colors?

Arch is only minimal if that's what the user wants, btw.

 I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: macomac on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:41:22
Super hyped for this set, it's right up my alley.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Owl on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:46:17
Pretty nice looking. This script kiddie is interested. Could you perhaps coordinate with your future vendors to have an email sent to my entire family and friends letting them know that I bought this? I want them to ask me what "Arch" and "Linux" is. For personal reasons.

Also really like the deskmat!

Also in the spirit of open source, lets see those color codes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 10:54:58
Also in the spirit of open source, lets see those color codes.
Never thought abt it like that, I'll add it in once I'm back on my pc
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: ilikerustoo on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:01:47
Hey, so I personally thought it would be nicer to mute the blue a bit into a teal so it would fit with the minimalism more, and the same reasoning goes for the simplified Arch Logo. You don't know how mad I am at myself for not noticing what was wrong on Syu and that will be changed for the final product. Thanks for the feedback!
Are there other sets that explicitly cop the name of a beloved property/theme and then go out of the way to change its logo and core colors?

Arch is only minimal if that's what the user wants, btw.

 I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...
Agreed

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Cujo26 on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:02:22
Man this just makes me regret living in the arse end of Africa more and more - gmk sets never ship here D:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:04:58
Now I can tell AND show people I use Arch!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: steezkeez on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:08:03
super clean set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Bachoo on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:22:35
Man you made a killer looking IC, amazing presentation -- I'm super proud to see this come to full fruition since you initially first posted that concept render in the discord.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:36:17
RIP CentOS.
Long live GMK Arch
Wait CentOS is gone? Such good memories.
Redhat is dropping support in 2021 and focusing support on CentOS stream, which is a rolling release with scheduling between RHEL and fedora. The reason it's 'gone' is because anyone who was using CentOS was using it for hyper stability, even with super-legacy, and even deprecated packages. Rolling release, regardless of actual up/downstream scheduling, is very against that methodology.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Dadrophenia on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:46:12
Even as a Debian user I feel I'd have to pick up this kit for the colors and Vim keys alone, this looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: SirKhamenman on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:55:34
Can you add rendering how this set will look like on e-white keyboard? Like Iron165 or Vega? :) :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: guill3m on Mon, 14 December 2020, 12:34:50
Yes, really nice. Thank you for considering the addition of the GUI kit :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: eyeon on Mon, 14 December 2020, 12:44:55
Why is there no 1.5U super key? even the GUI kit does not have the symbol in 1.5U.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: musdem on Mon, 14 December 2020, 13:09:07
I didn't think anything would make me switch my daily from SA Oblivion but this might do it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 14 December 2020, 14:34:58
Hey, so I personally thought it would be nicer to mute the blue a bit into a teal so it would fit with the minimalism more, and the same reasoning goes for the simplified Arch Logo. You don't know how mad I am at myself for not noticing what was wrong on Syu and that will be changed for the final product. Thanks for the feedback!
Are there other sets that explicitly cop the name of a beloved property/theme and then go out of the way to change its logo and core colors?

Arch is only minimal if that's what the user wants, btw.

 I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: hpkb on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:04:52
Damn this is nice. The mod legends remind me of Manjaro than the vanilla blue of Arch Linux. Either way, it looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Engedi_ on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:32:54
I've been commenting about how the kits are sold, and I have a question.
I realize that not everyone wants a spacebar in contrasting color, but then others do. I'm one.
But I honestly don't want to spend $30 - $40 for a spacebar in a contrasting color since I'm only going to use one.
I've asked this question elsewhere and they commented that spacebars are expensive to make.
But my question is it really that much more expensive to include ONE more in the base set?
Or is this a tactic used by designers to make more profit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:35:40
I've been commenting about how the kits are sold, and I have a question.
I realize that not everyone wants a spacebar in contrasting color, but then others do. I'm one.
But I honestly don't want to spend $30 - $40 for a spacebar in a contrasting color since I'm only going to use one.
I've asked this question elsewhere and they commented that spacebars are expensive to make.
But my question is it really that much more expensive to include ONE more in the base set?
Or is this a tactic used by designers to make more profit?
I don't know yet as I haven't recieved quotes from gmk yet, so I can answer that then, but the thing is that the spacebar can add cost that will make people who don't want it shy away due to not being able to afford it,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: davisthegreat on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:38:05
yes, please and thank you. numpab, annnnnnddd extra b in base?? I might not see this till 2022 but i'll take it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:45:01
yes, please and thank you. numpab, annnnnnddd extra b in base?? I might not see this till 2022 but i'll take it
trust, it'll be here much much sooner ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 14 December 2020, 15:52:43
I've been commenting about how the kits are sold, and I have a question.
I realize that not everyone wants a spacebar in contrasting color, but then others do. I'm one.
But I honestly don't want to spend $30 - $40 for a spacebar in a contrasting color since I'm only going to use one.
I've asked this question elsewhere and they commented that spacebars are expensive to make.
But my question is it really that much more expensive to include ONE more in the base set?
Or is this a tactic used by designers to make more profit?

There is a good reason why GMK kits are usually structured the way they are, and it has to do with satisfying the needs of the majority of users, while avoiding things that would drive cost up for that majority. This necessarily implies that some compromises need to be made; and I'm sorry to say, but accent-colored spacebars usually fall on the short end of that compromise since, usually, there isn't enough demand for them to justify their inclusion in a base kit.

To answer your question, yes, the price of a single extra spacebar in the base kit can make a difference when it comes to pricing and sales.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Engedi_ on Mon, 14 December 2020, 16:16:36
This is the clearest answer I've heard. Thanks for helping me understand. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: underling on Mon, 14 December 2020, 18:00:19
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 18:53:00
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Owl on Mon, 14 December 2020, 19:55:28
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

While I am not a long term Arch user, or linux user for that matter, I think it's a little silly for the Arch people to be so riled up about this. Not too long ago, GMK Gruvbox debuted and the designer used the exact colors that the IDE theme uses. And a lot of people thought it didn't really look that great, or at least didn't have the Gruvbox "feel" to it. Myself included since I use Gruvbox a lot. I suspect the same exact thing would have happened if you had tried to match the Arch palette perfectly and, like you said, would have probably ended up looking like a bunch of other sets instead of your own.

And while my opinion may not weigh as much as someone who's been checking their emails on Arch for 80 years, I really appreciate the extra mile that you went to make this an Arch set, that clearly looks like an Arch set, while also taking it upon yourself to diversify it enough to make it a polished and memorable addition to the GMK family. Anyone could have just copy and pasted HEX codes and made an exact copy of the logo to make it look like the IP. But it takes a lot of effort and decisions to build upon the idea while also not straying too far from it.

Anyway I think it's great and, at the end of the day, you are trying to sell something. So listening to the intended audience IS a good idea. But you should also hear that, in a forum filled with low effort IC's that are copy pastas of hex codes from anime, this stands out as a far more robust and developed idea than most and I appreciate it for that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 14 December 2020, 21:15:41
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

No one really cares about a name that much if a set looks good. Look at all the threads that are doing themed sets but might be infringing on the original IP, the threads have loads of suggestions for alternative names and novelties to try and skirt the IP issue while still creating an interesting set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 14 December 2020, 21:18:57
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Mon, 14 December 2020, 23:08:33
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Tue, 15 December 2020, 15:22:30
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Tue, 15 December 2020, 15:53:51
Man you made a killer looking IC, amazing presentation -- I'm super proud to see this come to full fruition since you initially first posted that concept render in the discord.
Thanks! Though it wouldn't be the same without your killer renders!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Tue, 15 December 2020, 15:55:08
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.
Yeah, once I have quotes from GMK kitting adjustment is the first thing I'll do. For now though I don't have too much of a reference/estimate.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 15 December 2020, 17:12:05
Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.
That base kit will cost around 135usd/euros in general. The majority of current sets also go with the big base kit. I have no problem with the current base kit. Remove numpad will only reduce the cost around 10usd/euros based on gmk pricing, remove ISO wont do much either but will lose a lot more interest for people who use ISO (European buyers). If runner are to remove some keys to keep the cost down, remove R1 end and R1 Pgdn and those accent arrows and all Numpad together but the ISO has to be in base kit. Just look at GMK ThinkCaps or GMK Norse, they go with a TKL base and received positive feedbacks about the kitting. The removed keys from base may go to another kits or become a separated kit of its own.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 15 December 2020, 18:01:16
That base kit will cost around 135usd/euros in general. The majority of current sets also go with the big base kit. I have no problem with the current base kit. Remove numpad will only reduce the cost around 10usd/euros based on gmk pricing, remove ISO wont do much either but will lose a lot more interest for people who use ISO (European buyers). If runner are to remove some keys to keep the cost down, remove R1 end and R1 Pgdn and those accent arrows and all Numpad together but the ISO has to be in base kit. Just look at GMK ThinkCaps or GMK Norse, they go with a TKL base and received positive feedbacks about the kitting. The removed keys from base may go to another kits or become a separated kit of its own.

I wouldn't exactly consider ThinkCaps to be a shining beacon of how to Kit GMK though. I had to pass on it because it was just too much to get what I wanted out of it.
Anywho, splitting numpad out of a $130 kit is a good way to turn it into a $150 kit for those that actually want the numpad.
Not saying that's a bad thing, TKL's are certainly popular.
But removing a key here or a key there really won't do much to help the overall cost of the base kit. However, adding a key or two will marginally increase the cost but definitely up your numbers. One good example is including minibars and second B in base for Alice users. That way they're not forced to buy a $50"degenerates" kit for like 3 keys.
What doesn't work so well with GMK is separating out the 40's keys (minivan, ortho, etc) into lots of little kits. Having a comprehensive 40's kit might be expensive but it usually works out pretty well.

I think the kitting looks pretty great as it is. Big base kit is best base kit. I would like to see some love for minivan 1.75u backspace and row 3 1.5u enter though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 15 December 2020, 22:18:17
bump
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Tue, 15 December 2020, 23:02:20
I saw this happen in the Keycap Designer Discord! Congrats -- super nice looking set. And love the attention to detail in the whole IC post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 15 December 2020, 23:08:26
I saw this happen in the Keycap Designer Discord! Congrats -- super nice looking set. And love the attention to detail in the whole IC post.
Thanks! Excited to see the other sets that are coming out of KCD
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Anatzum on Wed, 16 December 2020, 00:25:07
Really enjoying the set. Reminds me of the "Arc Dark" theme with teal instead of blue more then Arch though.

Maybe a rename to include teal as in "GMK Arch Teal" or going with Arc.

Either way I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: nvh2092 on Wed, 16 December 2020, 00:41:42
That base kit will cost around 135usd/euros in general. The majority of current sets also go with the big base kit. I have no problem with the current base kit. Remove numpad will only reduce the cost around 10usd/euros based on gmk pricing, remove ISO wont do much either but will lose a lot more interest for people who use ISO (European buyers). If runner are to remove some keys to keep the cost down, remove R1 end and R1 Pgdn and those accent arrows and all Numpad together but the ISO has to be in base kit. Just look at GMK ThinkCaps or GMK Norse, they go with a TKL base and received positive feedbacks about the kitting. The removed keys from base may go to another kits or become a separated kit of its own.

I wouldn't exactly consider ThinkCaps to be a shining beacon of how to Kit GMK though. I had to pass on it because it was just too much to get what I wanted out of it.
Anywho, splitting numpad out of a $130 kit is a good way to turn it into a $150 kit for those that actually want the numpad.
Not saying that's a bad thing, TKL's are certainly popular.
But removing a key here or a key there really won't do much to help the overall cost of the base kit. However, adding a key or two will marginally increase the cost but definitely up your numbers. One good example is including minibars and second B in base for Alice users. That way they're not forced to buy a $50"degenerates" kit for like 3 keys.
What doesn't work so well with GMK is separating out the 40's keys (minivan, ortho, etc) into lots of little kits. Having a comprehensive 40's kit might be expensive but it usually works out pretty well.

I think the kitting looks pretty great as it is. Big base kit is best base kit. I would like to see some love for minivan 1.75u backspace and row 3 1.5u enter though.
Well I have nothing against the current base kit, it's just a suggestion about which key is more vital to keep in the base. I actually prefer big base kit than some of the new terrible kittings.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: PHYLO on Wed, 16 December 2020, 09:57:20
This or the GMK Stealth... Ughhhhh why y'all do this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 16 December 2020, 12:36:16
This or the GMK Stealth... Ughhhhh why y'all do this.

Pourquoi pas les deux? ;) Stealth is running now, and this won't be running for a little while, so there should be time to get both!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Dotnick on Wed, 16 December 2020, 13:07:41
please include a render of the TTY kit on a board so we can see what that looks like!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 16 December 2020, 14:05:50
please include a render of the TTY kit on a board so we can see what that looks like!
If you hit more on the iron180 renders the 2nd one is with the TTY and GUI kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Dotnick on Wed, 16 December 2020, 14:32:53
please include a render of the TTY kit on a board so we can see what that looks like!
If you hit more on the iron180 renders the 2nd one is with the TTY and GUI kit!

That's a great render but I wouldn't say that it really highlights the TTY and GUI kits very well because of the shaded lighting. Something like your other renders would really help with seeing what this is supposed to look like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 16 December 2020, 14:53:19
please include a render of the TTY kit on a board so we can see what that looks like!
If you hit more on the iron180 renders the 2nd one is with the TTY and GUI kit!

That's a great render but I wouldn't say that it really highlights the TTY and GUI kits very well because of the shaded lighting. Something like your other renders would really help with seeing what this is supposed to look like.
Thats true, I'll probably hagve to ocmission another render for that which I don't currently have the cash for, worst case is the scene render is the only tty render until the GB which would have a tty board render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Cujo96 on Wed, 16 December 2020, 18:09:18
who is riftkeys?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 16 December 2020, 18:59:56
who is riftkeys?
A friend of mine who is a vendor for OCE, and also the OCE proxy for ashkeebs and mechs and co,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 16 December 2020, 19:03:45
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: mrvco on Wed, 16 December 2020, 22:31:46
Will this set be difficult to install?  Or should I wait for GMK Ubuntu instead?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 16 December 2020, 22:43:18
Will this set be difficult to install?  Or should I wait for GMK Ubuntu instead?
Will be much harder to install, but I recommend giving it a shot ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Thu, 17 December 2020, 00:28:08
Will this set be difficult to install?  Or should I wait for GMK Ubuntu instead?

I have waited for that (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90824.0) as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Shiba1337 on Thu, 17 December 2020, 12:04:53
Bumped :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 14:50:49


Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.

Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.


Swapped out the simplified logo for the true one, though based on what I'm seeing teh cuts in the logo won't show in the final caps,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: KeyRelic on Thu, 17 December 2020, 15:08:32
Very elegant.
Good decision with making Shell and TTY kit to work together for 2 keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: directheatedtriode on Thu, 17 December 2020, 16:00:05


Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.

Quote
I guess it's your set and you have permission but it sucks this with become "the" arch kit and have the wrong logo and colors.

That's not to say the colors aren't great, I like them but it doesn't make sense to call it arch while changing both the logo and the base color.

It would be like all the eva01 stuff softening the green or something...

There is no reason this has to become "the" Arch Linux kit, anyone could redo it in the future to be more true to the overall Arch theme as long as permission was granted from the people overseeing Arch.

The more I consider this with the colors and off novelties the more I'm leaning towards skipping it.
Sure, someone else *could* come along and do it 'right' but I anticipate their IC thread will be overrun with people talking about how confusing it is there is another "arch" kit and "you should use a different name" and so on...Maybe even GMK going, hey we already have this very different product line. Pick another name.(?)

If this is the first kit that comes out bearing the name, it likely will be "the" kit because anyone who wants to come do something that really is Arch-like would be fighting the existing idioms.

I do understand what you're saying though.

At first this didn't bother me much, but as a 10+ years arch user the more I think about it the less I like it. Taken in a vacuum the colors are great. The arch'iness is there in the quirky keys (-Syu) - great! VIM KEYS - I LOVE! <3

But I don't think it's right to use the Arch name and then make your own logo and color scheme. IMHO that's wrong and will set a precedence while simultaneously being inauthentic. Anyways, not my thread. I don't own arch either... but i will be hard-pass on it now.

arch logos: https://www.archlinux.org/art/

ok, i will bow (disappointedly) out of this thread now.

I fully understand what you mean and won't try to change your opinion, but I will explain my pov for a few things,  when I contacted one of the vendors I was going with, they made it obvious that this would be an expensive set as is, and I had to remove some icons(there were going to be true arch logos in the gui kit for super) so since I had a logo with the simplified style I had decided to stick with that novelty since it was already there and I didn't think people would care that much, obviously I was wrong. Especially since your a long time Arch user your feedback means more than most other since technically you're what the set should be appealing to. I will try to find a way to fit those back in once the quotes come back and I know if it will work or not, and I'll see what I can do about making it right and getting this set closer to what it was meant to be, because originally I really wanted to stick to the true arch colors but both personal preference and the fact that anything with those colors always resemble Umbra or another set to the point that I can't run it at all, so my hope was that I could get close and use the novs and mat as a way of maintaining the theme. So I hope you understand, and even if you don't your opinion is still valid and I'm going to use it for guidance from now till gb(if that happens) and for future sets.

Thanks,

Ram

Being too close to Umbra with that sort of aquamarine blue makes sense. I don't see why you couldn't just replace all the R1/R4 Arch logos with the official logos keeping the option 1 and option 2 kitting the same, where would be the price increase in doing that?
My mistake, I mean I had both, if people end up wanting the normal arch logos over the simplified ones I will replace them as a whole.

Got it, I see what you mean. Having both logos would definitely be way over kill. I think another reason you should use the official logo is you're in the uncommon circumstance where the people that are responsible for the original IP have given you the go ahead, so many sets have to try and work around this by creating an "inspired by" set. Also the deskpad uses the real logo.

Just saw your comment on one of the proxies saying it's going to be an expensive kit. The base could be cheaper if numpad and ISO were removed and made into their own kit like is pretty common to do. Especially since there are 2 different ISO enters in the base that will drive the price up a decent amount.


Swapped out the simplified logo for the true one, though based on what I'm seeing teh cuts in the logo won't show in the final caps,

Looking good fam, will be keeping my eyes out for this one, hoping the base isn't too expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 17 December 2020, 17:21:39
Guys, can we stop making kilometer-long chain quotes? ;D You're making them almost as long as the Arch installation process.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 17:55:36
Guys, can we stop making kilometer-long chain quotes? ;D You're making them almost as long as the Arch installation process.
Gotta stay true to the theme
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: musdem on Thu, 17 December 2020, 17:57:18
Would it be possible to move the vim arrows to another kit? Or make them their own kit? I want those but I don't really care about the icon buttons.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 18:31:10
Would it be possible to move the vim arrows to another kit? Or make them their own kit? I want those but I don't really care about the icon buttons.
someone else asked for it so it's definitely a consideration, just where it would fit best is the question, since I don't want to make the base kit too large.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Swishy on Thu, 17 December 2020, 18:48:15
Wow, really happy to see how this set developed!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:03:30
Wow, really happy to see how this set developed!!!
Thanks! Excited to see how the KAM 80s gb goes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:30:31
Really enjoying the set. Reminds me of the "Arc Dark" theme with teal instead of blue more then Arch though.

Maybe a rename to include teal as in "GMK Arch Teal" or going with Arc.

Either way I'm in.
A bit too late for a full rename haha, though in retrospect would have been a better idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: tommyhongg on Thu, 17 December 2020, 22:31:02
Shouldn't F13 be mod colored?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Vendors Announced!!!!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 17 December 2020, 22:40:02
Shouldn't F13 be mod colored?
yep will fix
also need to find a financially viable solution for tty spacebars
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Fri, 18 December 2020, 13:03:37
bump for updatre
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 18 December 2020, 13:35:42
bump for updatre
I don't think adding 40s keys to base kit is a good idea. People who use 40s keyboard need a lot more specific keys, hence it's better to put all the 40s keys to a separated kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Fri, 18 December 2020, 13:41:51
bump for updatre
I don't think adding 40s keys to base kit is a good idea. People who use 40s keyboard need a lot more specific keys, hence it's better to put all the 40s keys to a separated kit.
That's definitely true, and I'll be 100% on that when I have quotes from GMK, because I'll have enough responses to gauge the demand for a 40s kit and pricing for the base, a LOT of people want nothing to change in the base kit bc of the 40s keys, and if the price for the base is decent, and demand for a dedicated 40s kit low, I'll keep it as is, if  the price is high and the demand is high, I'll make a dedicated kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 18 December 2020, 14:11:45
bump for updatre
I don't think adding 40s keys to base kit is a good idea. People who use 40s keyboard need a lot more specific keys, hence it's better to put all the 40s keys to a separated kit.
That's definitely true, and I'll be 100% on that when I have quotes from GMK, because I'll have enough responses to gauge the demand for a 40s kit and pricing for the base, a LOT of people want nothing to change in the base kit bc of the 40s keys, and if the price for the base is decent, and demand for a dedicated 40s kit low, I'll keep it as is, if  the price is high and the demand is high, I'll make a dedicated kit.
At this point I think the base kit will be around 145 150 retail price, but you get everything so it's actually not bad. The colorway and the theme are just too good. I'm also an embedded developer so I need this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Fri, 18 December 2020, 22:30:13
bump for updatre
I don't think adding 40s keys to base kit is a good idea. People who use 40s keyboard need a lot more specific keys, hence it's better to put all the 40s keys to a separated kit.
That's definitely true, and I'll be 100% on that when I have quotes from GMK, because I'll have enough responses to gauge the demand for a 40s kit and pricing for the base, a LOT of people want nothing to change in the base kit bc of the 40s keys, and if the price for the base is decent, and demand for a dedicated 40s kit low, I'll keep it as is, if  the price is high and the demand is high, I'll make a dedicated kit.
At this point I think the base kit will be around 145 150 retail price, but you get everything so it's actually not bad. The colorway and the theme are just too good. I'm also an embedded developer so I need this.

Thats my quess as well, but always better to be certain before changing anything,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: CoolMike on Sat, 19 December 2020, 09:11:56
Ram might have found a niche here...


GMK Gentoo
GMK Buntu (I would guess copyright infringement on this one would be hard to get around hence the name)
GMK MicrosoftEdgeIsTrash


Just saying. Gorgeous set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Sat, 19 December 2020, 12:45:15
Ram might have found a niche here...


GMK Gentoo
GMK Buntu (I would guess copyright infringement on this one would be hard to get around hence the name)
GMK MicrosoftEdgeIsTrash


Just saying. Gorgeous set.
Thanks haha, yeah this could very well become a set series with the many options, though your forgetting GMK Windows, where I use some obscure color chip that only I have access to.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: FireLock on Sat, 19 December 2020, 14:26:54
Will give it a shot: NorDE please!

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: maelkesnot on Sat, 19 December 2020, 19:02:22
I say NorDe aswell! looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:11:07
I say NorDe aswell! looks good!

Will give it a shot: NorDE please!

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk


Demand for it is definitely there based on the IC form, like for everything else, I'll wait till I have quotes back so I can have both pricing info and a bit more IC form responses to have a more accurate number for people who want NorDEUK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: halocantkb on Mon, 21 December 2020, 01:10:44
arch dolch so lit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: Ram on Tue, 22 December 2020, 00:12:02
arch dolch so lit
*facepalm*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Major Updates(Vendors, Kitting, and Discord Server)
Post by: IceHawk on Tue, 22 December 2020, 01:42:39
This looks awesome! I'm in, if you offer ISO-DE keycaps as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 23 December 2020, 12:57:43
bump for update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: acitrin on Wed, 23 December 2020, 14:04:33
Congrats, Ram!!! Proud of you :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 23 December 2020, 15:57:46
No Ubuntu hate. This is weird.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Milky_Mooncake on Wed, 23 December 2020, 17:01:44
I honestly don't like dark keysets but this set is awesome!
Especially the Deskfetch Mat, i need it!

(i use arch btw)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: crestia on Wed, 23 December 2020, 20:03:52
I love how all four of the renders show the colors differently
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: IceHawk on Thu, 24 December 2020, 00:58:23
Nice set. I'm in, if you add NorDE kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 24 December 2020, 16:18:25
No Ubuntu hate. This is weird.
Arch users are superior. They don't piddle with things like concerning themelves with the shortcomings of lesser OS'

That's what Gentoo is for.

Oh yeah what's going on with 40's support? Have you considered making any changes?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 24 December 2020, 18:16:51
No Ubuntu hate. This is weird.
Arch users are superior. They don't piddle with things like concerning themelves with the shortcomings of lesser OS'

That's what Gentoo is for.

Oh yeah what's going on with 40's support? Have you considered making any changes?
Demand is showing so I'm considering a dedicated 40s kit, but for now I'm waiting on quotes before making any major decisions, tho physical 40s compat will be on the base kit, I just need to update it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch
Post by: Ram on Fri, 25 December 2020, 01:29:28
The following keys can be removed from the kits since they either serve no practical purpose or are not commonly used. Sorted top to bottom from “totally useless” to “somewhat useful but may not be worth including”.
  • 1.75c keys in spacebars — not used outside of a small number of 40s boards (which this set doesn't support);
  • second 1c and second 1.25c in spacebars — not used outside of a small number of ortho boards (which this set doesn't support);
  • second R4 1u Alt in base and GUI — only useful if there are 1.5u Super keys;
  • R1 1u Backspace in base — not commonly used;
  • R4 1u 00 — only useful for standalone numpads;
  • R4 2u Shift — popular in East Asia for GK64 and similar 60% layouts w/ arrows, but not commonly used elsewhere.
In place of these, keys to consider adding are F13 to base (as previously mentioned in the thread) and 2× 1.5u Super to base and GUI (in which case you would keep the second 1u Alt keys).


I feel like text mods would be more fitting for an Arch based/inspired set

Same, I feel like this would look 110% better with just text mods and maybe a separate icon mod kit.

I'm inclined to say that text mods would be a good idea. It would probably give the set a bit more character and tie in a bit better with the theme. On the other hand, I think that keeping the current look and adding the GUI kit mods on top is also a nice prospect.

Edit: correction

Just realized I had missed this, thanks Konstantin! Definitely will be putting most of these changes in,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: underling on Fri, 25 December 2020, 02:26:37
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 25 December 2020, 15:41:53
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.
Dang haha, thanks

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 28 December 2020, 13:54:04
small update, Samples are inbound from Mechfashion that should be here hopefully by Mid-Late Jan, the same may happen for our metal Artisans from Asero! Updates with photos of the samples will be posted then along with kitting updates assuming that quotes from GMK are back by then,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: chaoticgood on Fri, 01 January 2021, 03:42:52
very naice. much like. arch hype.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 01 January 2021, 04:46:40
I will buy this kit to fit on a keyboard of choice to use with my Ubuntu server, then some things will be complete.  Is there any possibility of adding UK ISO to a kit or maybe a NordeUK kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: IceHawk on Fri, 01 January 2021, 04:55:09
I will buy this kit to fit on a keyboard of choice to use with my Ubuntu server, then some things will be complete.  Is there any possibility of adding UK ISO to a kit or maybe a NordeUK kit?

Hoping for a NorDE/UK Kit as well. These are very nice keycaps, but I will not buy it without a NorDE kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Applet on Fri, 01 January 2021, 06:07:12
Looks great! :D

Would it be possible to add a blank 1.25u in spacebar-profile for the common 6.25-split space (2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75) to the Powerline-kit?

EDIT: Found the missing B
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 01 January 2021, 13:15:43
Looks great! :D

Would it be possible to add a blank 1.25u in spacebar-profile for the common 6.25-split space (2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75) to the Powerline-kit?

EDIT: Found the missing B
There actually used to be 2 1.25us in that kit, so adding one back can definitely be done.

Quote
Hoping for a NorDE/UK Kit as well. These are very nice keycaps, but I will not buy it without a NorDE kit.
At this point I'm waiting on quotes before drafting a full nordeuk kit, but most likely it will happen based on the responses I saw

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: dodoegg00 on Fri, 01 January 2021, 21:35:19
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Sat, 02 January 2021, 13:43:26
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
No, if you want to get as close to the arch blue in a set, you'd have to get GMK Umbra, because my set would too close to it if I used it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: R4YN3 on Sun, 03 January 2021, 20:31:15
1This set is awesome! Can't wait to buy all the things!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: psycherhexic on Tue, 05 January 2021, 06:13:59
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
No, if you want to get as close to the arch blue in a set, you'd have to get GMK Umbra, because my set would too close to it if I used it.

The reason this set uses a different color than the original Arch blue is because some other set previously used a similar colorscheme? This does not make much sense. This design is obviously not a copy of GMK Umbra, but instead inspired by something completely different; that something of course being Arch Linux, where there is an obvious choice for the colorscheme. Any Linux user knows, at least roughly, what "Arch blue" looks like.

I do not understand why, in this hobby, some people think select colorschemes are reserved. There are people that jump into new threads and say, "The colorscheme of this set of keycaps is too similar to that of set x, which ran once y years ago, so you cannot make this."

We are talking here about blue and dark grey/black, a common combination all over the world.

We should let people have what they want and vote with their money. If there can be a bunch of cyberpunk keysets, many run at the same time and which all use relatively similar colors, then there can be more than one blue and dark grey keyset.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 07 January 2021, 15:37:50
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
No, if you want to get as close to the arch blue in a set, you'd have to get GMK Umbra, because my set would too close to it if I used it.

The reason this set uses a different color than the original Arch blue is because some other set previously used a similar colorscheme? This does not make much sense. This design is obviously not a copy of GMK Umbra, but instead inspired by something completely different; that something of course being Arch Linux, where there is an obvious choice for the colorscheme. Any Linux user knows, at least roughly, what "Arch blue" looks like.

I do not understand why, in this hobby, some people think select colorschemes are reserved. There are people that jump into new threads and say, "The colorscheme of this set of keycaps is too similar to that of set x, which ran once y years ago, so you cannot make this."

We are talking here about blue and dark grey/black, a common combination all over the world.

We should let people have what they want and vote with their money. If there can be a bunch of cyberpunk keysets, many run at the same time and which all use relatively similar colors, then there can be more than one blue and dark grey keyset.

This is a valid belief, but first personally, I don't feel it's right to be selling a near identical set for profit. When you said that the community should vote with their money, they do, and almost always its against too similar colorways. As much as I'd want to use the true Arch colors, my personal morals and the ethics of our community don't support it. By the way, there are no cyberpunk  keysets, all of the ones that were put up were trolls haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: NoteMakoti on Thu, 07 January 2021, 19:21:50
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
No, if you want to get as close to the arch blue in a set, you'd have to get GMK Umbra, because my set would too close to it if I used it.

The reason this set uses a different color than the original Arch blue is because some other set previously used a similar colorscheme? This does not make much sense. This design is obviously not a copy of GMK Umbra, but instead inspired by something completely different; that something of course being Arch Linux, where there is an obvious choice for the colorscheme. Any Linux user knows, at least roughly, what "Arch blue" looks like.

I do not understand why, in this hobby, some people think select colorschemes are reserved. There are people that jump into new threads and say, "The colorscheme of this set of keycaps is too similar to that of set x, which ran once y years ago, so you cannot make this."

We are talking here about blue and dark grey/black, a common combination all over the world.

We should let people have what they want and vote with their money. If there can be a bunch of cyberpunk keysets, many run at the same time and which all use relatively similar colors, then there can be more than one blue and dark grey keyset.
I agree, the community is too protective of colorsets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 08 January 2021, 10:29:07
I know there's a pretty long earlier thread on Arch's original icon and colors, but just wanted to double-check.  Is it a foregone conclusion that the original Arch blue won't be in the set, not even as part of an add-on kit?
No, if you want to get as close to the arch blue in a set, you'd have to get GMK Umbra, because my set would too close to it if I used it.

The reason this set uses a different color than the original Arch blue is because some other set previously used a similar colorscheme? This does not make much sense. This design is obviously not a copy of GMK Umbra, but instead inspired by something completely different; that something of course being Arch Linux, where there is an obvious choice for the colorscheme. Any Linux user knows, at least roughly, what "Arch blue" looks like.

I do not understand why, in this hobby, some people think select colorschemes are reserved. There are people that jump into new threads and say, "The colorscheme of this set of keycaps is too similar to that of set x, which ran once y years ago, so you cannot make this."

We are talking here about blue and dark grey/black, a common combination all over the world.

We should let people have what they want and vote with their money. If there can be a bunch of cyberpunk keysets, many run at the same time and which all use relatively similar colors, then there can be more than one blue and dark grey keyset.

I think these people are more just being vocal about it, I am guessing the number of people that would actually boycott a set for too similar colors based on some principle would be very few. You'd probably just lose some sales from people that like the color but bought the older set that is similar to the new one being run.

There is a lot of gate keeping in this hobby.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 08 January 2021, 12:47:44
(Posting the same update I put on the discord)
Kitting overhaul is likely, and will be confirmed once I have quotes for current kitting,
any major changes to lower cost(if it ends up being needed) will be left up to a poll of Kit Ver 1 vs Kit Ver 2, with a "price tag" for each to show the difference in overall value. For new kits, 40s and NorDeUK will happen based on the IC form responses, Ortho/Ergo is a hard maybe and if I do add it they'll be one kit. Numpad kit is possible if costs do need to be cut down for shell, along with moving all 40s compat and iso compat to respective kits(this is what the poll will decide). I'll keep you guys updated on this.
Btw If you wanna be able to vote on any of hte polls I put up or be up to date on any small updates, join the discord, will make mnaging things way easier on my end
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 08 January 2021, 16:36:11
(Posting the same update I put on the discord)
Kitting overhaul is likely, and will be confirmed once I have quotes for current kitting,
any major changes to lower cost(if it ends up being needed) will be left up to a poll of Kit Ver 1 vs Kit Ver 2, with a "price tag" for each to show the difference in overall value. For new kits, 40s and NorDeUK will happen based on the IC form responses, Ortho/Ergo is a hard maybe and if I do add it they'll be one kit. Numpad kit is possible if costs do need to be cut down for shell, along with moving all 40s compat and iso compat to respective kits(this is what the poll will decide). I'll keep you guys updated on this.
Btw If you wanna be able to vote on any of hte polls I put up or be up to date on any small updates, join the discord, will make mnaging things way easier on my end
I recommend this kitting for base kit: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109588.0 with/without a few minor tweaks, like adding that accent 6.25 space bar to base  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 08 January 2021, 23:56:16
(Posting the same update I put on the discord)
Kitting overhaul is likely, and will be confirmed once I have quotes for current kitting,
any major changes to lower cost(if it ends up being needed) will be left up to a poll of Kit Ver 1 vs Kit Ver 2, with a "price tag" for each to show the difference in overall value. For new kits, 40s and NorDeUK will happen based on the IC form responses, Ortho/Ergo is a hard maybe and if I do add it they'll be one kit. Numpad kit is possible if costs do need to be cut down for shell, along with moving all 40s compat and iso compat to respective kits(this is what the poll will decide). I'll keep you guys updated on this.
Btw If you wanna be able to vote on any of hte polls I put up or be up to date on any small updates, join the discord, will make mnaging things way easier on my end
I recommend this kitting for base kit: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109588.0 with/without a few minor tweaks, like adding that accent 6.25 space bar to base  ;D
Will take a look at it, thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 09 January 2021, 09:00:56
(Posting the same update I put on the discord)
Kitting overhaul is likely, and will be confirmed once I have quotes for current kitting,
any major changes to lower cost(if it ends up being needed) will be left up to a poll of Kit Ver 1 vs Kit Ver 2, with a "price tag" for each to show the difference in overall value. For new kits, 40s and NorDeUK will happen based on the IC form responses, Ortho/Ergo is a hard maybe and if I do add it they'll be one kit. Numpad kit is possible if costs do need to be cut down for shell, along with moving all 40s compat and iso compat to respective kits(this is what the poll will decide). I'll keep you guys updated on this.
Btw If you wanna be able to vote on any of hte polls I put up or be up to date on any small updates, join the discord, will make mnaging things way easier on my end
I recommend this kitting for base kit: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109588.0 with/without a few minor tweaks, like adding that accent 6.25 space bar to base  ;D

I agree, Think was one of the better kitted sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Sun, 10 January 2021, 22:44:36
I'm going to install arch on a 51nb Thinkpad so I can live up to the "I Use Arch BTW" enter key. Thank you for the inspiration.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 10 January 2021, 22:48:33
I'm going to install arch on a 51nb Thinkpad so I can live up to the "I Use Arch BTW" enter key. Thank you for the inspiration.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6fde4008ab9624abc604760af0c2a654/tenor.gif?itemid=14656216)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 12 January 2021, 02:40:54
this set is a banger.

know it probably wouldn't happen but a nord style ergo/ortho/40s kit would be killer

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/4748/2933/products/1W43tbg_1024x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Arch4Life on Tue, 12 January 2021, 03:21:56
well, this is definitely a must-have set for me lol

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 12 January 2021, 11:58:02
this set is a banger.

know it probably wouldn't happen but a nord style ergo/ortho/40s kit would be killer

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/4748/2933/products/1W43tbg_1024x1024.jpg)

A combo of all 3? I was most likely going to do just a 40s and a ortho/combo but I can definitely do this.

Edit: ignore every comma I type I have an issue w overusing them in the worst places
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 12 January 2021, 12:46:39
this set is a banger.

know it probably wouldn't happen but a nord style ergo/ortho/40s kit would be killer

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/4748/2933/products/1W43tbg_1024x1024.jpg)

A combo of all 3? I was most likely going to do just a 40s, and a ortho/combo, but I can definitely do this.

oh baby yes please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: knam316 on Wed, 13 January 2021, 09:49:45
I love the dark sets with subtle color accents :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: candravamsa on Wed, 13 January 2021, 10:42:38
this set is a banger.

know it probably wouldn't happen but a nord style ergo/ortho/40s kit would be killer

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/4748/2933/products/1W43tbg_1024x1024.jpg)

A combo of all 3? I was most likely going to do just a 40s and a ortho/combo but I can definitely do this.

YES. I repeat. YES.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: crispgm on Wed, 13 January 2021, 11:04:02
also want a RAMA Arch artisan  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: catbus on Wed, 13 January 2021, 11:22:23
this set is a banger.

know it probably wouldn't happen but a nord style ergo/ortho/40s kit would be killer

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/4748/2933/products/1W43tbg_1024x1024.jpg)

A combo of all 3? I was most likely going to do just a 40s and a ortho/combo but I can definitely do this.

YES. I repeat. YES.
I would be in instantly if we got an assembly kit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 13 January 2021, 13:20:31
small update, the Accentlegend/mod color ral is now 260 20 05 instead of 260 20 10, it's a less bluish shade and more true to the renders.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: iknowreal on Wed, 13 January 2021, 16:35:40
as an arch user I told myself this was not going to just spread my wallets legs but It has been spread. The more I look at this set more I like it. It's those Alpha's I love so much. Sudo  and that enter key. I use arch btw.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Owitzo on Thu, 14 January 2021, 10:03:55
A nordic / iso option would be amazing. Loving the kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: GMK_Andy on Tue, 19 January 2021, 16:07:52
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.

I wanted to check on this actually, and see if you have permission to be using the Arch logo? According to their trademark policy it can't be used if there is commercial intent, or for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts etc.

It would also require "TM" be included on the logo as well - if approved. Just an FYI and something that should be looked into.

Arch Trademark Wiki Page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#:~:text=%40archlinux.org.-,The%20Trademarks,both%20word%20and%20logo%20form)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 19 January 2021, 16:30:54
I wanted to check on this actually, and see if you have permission to be using the Arch logo? According to their trademark policy it can't be used if there is commercial intent, or for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts etc.

That is covered near the bottom of the OP:

Use of the Arch Logo and Name Approved by the Arch Trademark team
I Understand that This Set Does Look Like GMK Apollo, but I have recieved permission from
Octix to run this set.
Proof of This can be sent by request

Contact
/u/Plasmusang on Reddit
@kushpapi._._ on Instagram
Ramlord#2733 on Discord

Not sure about the trademark.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: MrGuccu on Tue, 19 January 2021, 17:23:07
This is so amazing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 19 January 2021, 19:40:56
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.

I wanted to check on this actually, and see if you have permission to be using the Arch logo? According to their trademark policy it can't be used if there is commercial intent, or for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts etc.

It would also require "TM" be included on the logo as well - if approved. Just an FYI and something that should be looked into.

Arch Trademark Wiki Page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#:~:text=%40archlinux.org.-,The%20Trademarks,both%20word%20and%20logo%20form)
Like poloman said I got explicit permission from them to run the set with the logo but they never mentioned that I would have to add the tm to the novs, I'll email them again to make sure

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: GMK_Andy on Tue, 19 January 2021, 19:49:27
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.

I wanted to check on this actually, and see if you have permission to be using the Arch logo? According to their trademark policy it can't be used if there is commercial intent, or for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts etc.

It would also require "TM" be included on the logo as well - if approved. Just an FYI and something that should be looked into.

Arch Trademark Wiki Page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#:~:text=%40archlinux.org.-,The%20Trademarks,both%20word%20and%20logo%20form)
Like poloman said I got explicit permission from them to run the set with the logo but they never mentioned that I would have to add the tm to the novs, I'll email them again to make sure

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Ah, very good! I read over the thread but must have missed that.   :-X

I believe as long as you got approval then it should be fine, I was simply going off of what the Wiki was stating! Seems like you have it all covered and did your homework, I'll send you a DM just to make sure we get any information needed so there are no surprises or delays regarding this from our end down the line and go ahead and let the team know that this logo should be fine for production.

Great efforts and design :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 19 January 2021, 20:24:17
Holy ****, the real logo is in?! <3

I am buying everything. Hell, whatever kits you make I'll buy two of each.

I wanted to check on this actually, and see if you have permission to be using the Arch logo? According to their trademark policy it can't be used if there is commercial intent, or for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts etc.

It would also require "TM" be included on the logo as well - if approved. Just an FYI and something that should be looked into.

Arch Trademark Wiki Page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#:~:text=%40archlinux.org.-,The%20Trademarks,both%20word%20and%20logo%20form)
Like poloman said I got explicit permission from them to run the set with the logo but they never mentioned that I would have to add the tm to the novs, I'll email them again to make sure

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Ah, very good! I read over the thread but must have missed that.   :-X

I believe as long as you got approval then it should be fine, I was simply going off of what the Wiki was stating! Seems like you have it all covered and did your homework, I'll send you a DM just to make sure we get any information needed so there are no surprises or delays regarding this from our end down the line and go ahead and let the team know that this logo should be fine for production.

Great efforts and design :thumb:

Thanks again!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: GMK_Andy on Tue, 19 January 2021, 20:26:41
I have all the information needed for logo use on the GMK side - this won't be a problem to manufacture. Giving this set a huge thumbs up on my end  :thumb:

To fit the theme you should make a keyboard that requires the firmware to be programmed before each use   :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 19 January 2021, 20:40:00
I have all the information needed for logo use on the GMK side - this won't be a problem to manufacture. Giving this set a huge thumbs up on my end  :thumb:

To fit the theme you should make a keyboard that requires the firmware to be programmed before each use   :p
Ofc Ofc, also forgot to ask, I'm pretty sure the cuts in the arch logo would need to be removed(I swapped the arch logo from a simplified one to the real one a few days after sending the original kits for quotes) do you know yourself if they need to be or not? I'll dm you the svg if you need it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: GMK_Andy on Thu, 21 January 2021, 12:37:53
I have all the information needed for logo use on the GMK side - this won't be a problem to manufacture. Giving this set a huge thumbs up on my end  :thumb:

To fit the theme you should make a keyboard that requires the firmware to be programmed before each use   :p
Ofc Ofc, also forgot to ask, I'm pretty sure the cuts in the arch logo would need to be removed(I swapped the arch logo from a simplified one to the real one a few days after sending the original kits for quotes) do you know yourself if they need to be or not? I'll dm you the svg if you need it.

Yeah, send me over the .svg and I can take a look at it for you :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: dimamantra on Thu, 21 January 2021, 12:55:47
Would love the mountains desk mat without the details in the lower right  :thumb:

That one is SLEEK!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 21 January 2021, 23:19:04
Would love the mountains desk mat without the details in the lower right  :thumb:

That one is SLEEK!
a LOT of people have asked for it, so I might make it 2 options, one with the terminal and one without.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: r00dy on Sat, 23 January 2021, 13:58:49
Would love the mountains desk mat without the details in the lower right  :thumb:

That one is SLEEK!

Would like to echo the sentiment but the variant with the details in the lower right looks great regardless. Imo there could be appeal outside the "arch theme" if the details were removed which could sell to a broader audience but either way the mat and the set are both really well done.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: kipawazi on Thu, 28 January 2021, 08:07:53
No ortho kit? :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 28 January 2021, 13:20:56
No ortho kit? :(
Assembly kit is happening, so there will be one
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: powwu on Tue, 02 February 2021, 21:15:20
hee hee leenoox good windows bad

i use arch btw

(https://i.ibb.co/gzf0gT4/2021-02-02-22-13.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 02 February 2021, 21:40:03
I am injecting my excitement for this kit. There have been a lot of ICs out there - and after looking at stuff for months this one really stands out. WTG mai dood. <3

also BUMP!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 02 February 2021, 22:17:13
I have all the information needed for logo use on the GMK side - this won't be a problem to manufacture. Giving this set a huge thumbs up on my end  :thumb:

To fit the theme you should make a keyboard that requires the firmware to be programmed before each use   :p
Ofc Ofc, also forgot to ask, I'm pretty sure the cuts in the arch logo would need to be removed(I swapped the arch logo from a simplified one to the real one a few days after sending the original kits for quotes) do you know yourself if they need to be or not? I'll dm you the svg if you need it.

Yeah, send me over the .svg and I can take a look at it for you :thumb:


Completely Missed this, Sending it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 03 February 2021, 00:26:26
I am injecting my excitement for this kit. There have been a lot of ICs out there - and after looking at stuff for months this one really stands out. WTG mai dood. <3

also BUMP!
Thanks haha, glad to hear that the set's really standing out this much compared to other ones.

hee hee leenoox good windows bad

i use arch btw

Show Image
(https://i.ibb.co/gzf0gT4/2021-02-02-22-13.png)

best rice I've seen in my life
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: TheBossWasHere on Sat, 06 February 2021, 02:49:33
Set looks fantastic, can't wait! Hope to see this run soon!

(https://i.imgur.com/kHAb7Jq.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110180.0)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 07 February 2021, 19:45:31
Set looks fantastic, can't wait! Hope to see this run soon!

(https://i.imgur.com/kHAb7Jq.png) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110180.0)
Thanks!
(Also gonna put Small update #2500) No quotes from GMK as of yet, and until I get those I can't move forward with or finalize a lot of the kitting edits I want to do(also can't justify them if I don't know that they would be needed or not). So any major updates to the IC will be halted till then.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 08 February 2021, 04:16:58
Is adding the couple of additional UK ISO caps to the base set out of the question?  The accents and the AUR kit are really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 08 February 2021, 12:24:29
Is adding the couple of additional UK ISO caps to the base set out of the question?  The accents and the AUR kit are really nice.
Considering that I'm adding a NorDeUK kit it wouldn't really make sense to include those in base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 09 February 2021, 23:07:32
Mechfashion sleeve samples just came in! The teal will need to be brighter, along with changes to the terminal legends for legibility, and size will probably be changed from 65 to TKL for sake of making it more universal but other than that I personally think they came out great!

(https://i.imgur.com/mxSSt3m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WhRHseK.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: azzipa on Wed, 10 February 2021, 18:41:28
amazing vision and amazing work! i would grab a 65 sleeve but not a TKL in case that makes a difference to anyone.

Mechfashion sleeve samples just came in! The teal will need to be brighter, along with changes to the terminal legends for legibility, and size will probably be changed from 65 to TKL for sake of making it more universal but other than that I personally think they came out great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 10 February 2021, 22:37:11
amazing vision and amazing work! i would grab a 65 sleeve but not a TKL in case that makes a difference to anyone.

Mechfashion sleeve samples just came in! The teal will need to be brighter, along with changes to the terminal legends for legibility, and size will probably be changed from 65 to TKL for sake of making it more universal but other than that I personally think they came out great!
Makes sense, I'll definitely need to find a middle ground that pleases everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: elfick on Wed, 10 February 2021, 23:02:17
amazing vision and amazing work! i would grab a 65 sleeve but not a TKL in case that makes a difference to anyone.

Mechfashion sleeve samples just came in! The teal will need to be brighter, along with changes to the terminal legends for legibility, and size will probably be changed from 65 to TKL for sake of making it more universal but other than that I personally think they came out great!
Makes sense, I'll definitely need to find a middle ground that pleases everyone.
Are they going to be manufactured to order? If so, just offer both?
Also, love the set! Can't wait to see the assembly kit. Go SoCA!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: categimperat on Thu, 11 February 2021, 15:09:47
nice, i get to larp as someone who knows how to code well lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: mase310 on Thu, 11 February 2021, 23:21:33
If you include an ENTER and ESC key in RAL210-70-35 keycap color with black legend symbols in the GUI kit, you will sell sooooo much with just two extra keycaps! Or maybe even just the ENTER key. I would literally buy double the number of complete sets. Please do it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Ram on Sat, 13 February 2021, 15:48:30
If you include an ENTER and ESC key in RAL210-70-35 keycap color with black legend symbols in the GUI kit, you will sell sooooo much with just two extra keycaps! Or maybe even just the ENTER key. I would literally buy double the number of complete sets. Please do it!

I'll see if there's more interest for that and make a decision based off of that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Nathan_ on Sun, 14 February 2021, 07:09:49
When can we expect to see collab protos?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 14 February 2021, 21:30:55
When can we expect to see collab protos?
I don't have an estimate on any of the resin Artisans as of yet, but I expect the Asero Artisan proto to be done by Early April at the latest(I could end up being wrong though so don't take my word for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: cam on Tue, 16 February 2021, 01:25:49
Nice set and great distro!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Current Keyboards on Tue, 16 February 2021, 10:56:24
Would love the mountains desk mat without the details in the lower right  :thumb:

That one is SLEEK!
a LOT of people have asked for it, so I might make it 2 options, one with the terminal and one without.

Yeah, if that mountain is by itself, this is a full matching set autobuy for me. The case looks great with the terminal though.

Beautiful work.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 18 February 2021, 11:46:05
Would love the mountains desk mat without the details in the lower right  :thumb:

That one is SLEEK!
a LOT of people have asked for it, so I might make it 2 options, one with the terminal and one without.

Yeah, if that mountain is by itself, this is a full matching set autobuy for me. The case looks great with the terminal though.

Beautiful work.
Yeah after thinking it over it's definitely what I'm going to do.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Rx003 on Fri, 19 February 2021, 03:44:51
Looks nice, but I would instantly cop it. Good luck and I wish you all the best for this set!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Engedi_ on Sat, 20 February 2021, 11:10:34
Looking forward to this one! But shouldn't the accent colors be closer to blue rather than white? It still looks great though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | MechFashion Samples are In!!!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 22 February 2021, 15:21:08
Looking forward to this one! But shouldn't the accent colors be closer to blue rather than white? It still looks great though
I tried teal accents in the set but honestly the look of the set wasn't as great imo, so I decided to stick with white accents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Collaborations and 2nd Deskmat Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 25 February 2021, 19:35:33
Mini Update Time:
Deskfetch Bandings gone and protos for both the deskfetch adn trimat are incoming!
I have about a whopping 11 collabs to announce that will be announced soon!
Kitting Updates + any changes I need to do the IC will happen next week if all things go well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | South American Vendor Announced!!!
Post by: sub0001 on Sat, 27 February 2021, 09:34:14
Really looking forward to this one. GB can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | South American Vendor Announced!!!
Post by: patcoll on Sun, 28 February 2021, 08:51:57
Excited about this one. The colors are great. Can’t wait!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | South American Vendor Announced!!!
Post by: Trivent on Sun, 28 February 2021, 15:03:54
I like it, but it does remind me of GMK Norse
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 28 February 2021, 17:29:27
bump for update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: DeMechanica on Sun, 28 February 2021, 18:06:42
Man, why did you have to add that GCC kit, that is such nice kitting, I am so impressed, it’ll be hard to pass up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 28 February 2021, 18:23:31
Man, why did you have to add that GCC kit, that is such nice kitting, I am so impressed, it’ll be hard to pass up!

Thanks haha, really hoping that it goes well and hits moq
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: johntron25 on Sun, 28 February 2021, 19:15:37
I love this set. I have GMK terminal, penumbra, solarized dark. I am in the GB for ePBT Be the one, and KAM super user. I am a big fan of sets that are inspired by IDE themes.

Is it possible to add 1u shift and 2u shift on the base set? I need it for my 60% with arrow cluster.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sun, 28 February 2021, 19:17:42
gmk debian when
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 28 February 2021, 19:25:00
I love this set. I have GMK terminal, penumbra, solarized dark. I am in the GB for ePBT Be the one, and KAM super user. I am a big fan of sets that are inspired by IDE themes.

Is it possible to add 1u shift and 2u shift on the base set? I need it for my 60% with arrow cluster.
Hey prob not at this point because I'm pushing it alr price wise atm, I think while it isn't perfect you can use basically any key for the 1u shift, and for the 2u, the numpad 0 key


gmk debian when
When the when the
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ciantha on Mon, 01 March 2021, 01:06:41
I have a couple of questions about the GCC kit.
1, Was there a reason a 3 bar was included but not a 2.75? 2.25 + 2.75 is a very common spacebar option for 40s.
2, Is the fact that the 2.25 and 3 spacebar are mod colored instead of alpha colored something you feel strongly about? If not I would like to suggest these be alpha colored instead.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 01 March 2021, 01:11:36


I have a couple of questions about the GCC kit.
1, Was there a reason a 3 bar was included but not a 2.75? 2.25 + 2.75 is a very common spacebar option for 40s.
2, Is the fact that the 2.25 and 3 spacebar are mod colored instead of alpha colored something you feel strongly about? If not I would like to suggest these be alpha colored instead.

The 3u is a typo, meant to be 2.75, and I'll be changing the bar colors as well for those too as well, thanks for the input!

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 01 March 2021, 11:09:22
This is so beautiful on first sight. I think you either love or hate the teal mod legends. For me I stared at the renders for a while then realized the set I actually want is GMK Apollo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 01 March 2021, 15:23:41
This is so beautiful on first sight. I think you either love or hate the real mod legends. For me I stared at the renders for a while then realized the set I actually want is GMK Apollo
Yeah the teal def won't be for everyone
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: kkd_20 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 15:32:15
That deskmat is just wow  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 02 March 2021, 15:42:48
i see gcc kit, i buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Kitting Update! GCC and Localization now added!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 05 March 2021, 10:58:17
That deskmat is just wow  :thumb: :thumb:

i see gcc kit, i buy.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Norweigan Vendor Announced! |Kitting Update!
Post by: shima on Fri, 05 March 2021, 12:04:20
mmmmmmmmmmm noice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Norweigan Vendor Announced! |Kitting Update!
Post by: audrentis on Fri, 05 March 2021, 14:52:50
I like this a lot!  :thumb:
I assume row labels are messed up on GUI kit?
hjkl is row 3, and are the 1u GUI mods row 4?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Norweigan Vendor Announced! |Kitting Update!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 05 March 2021, 15:05:05
I like this a lot!  :thumb:
I assume row labels are messed up on GUI kit?
hjkl is row 3, and are the 1u GUI mods row 4?
Yea its a mistake on my end, I'll fix it tonight thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Norweigan Vendor Announced! | Kitting Update!
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 05 March 2021, 16:36:01
Hi Ram, norwegian  :p :p :p. Can we have some of the R2 novelty 1u keys moved to R3 and R4 to cover the column of (end, pgdn, pgup, home, etc). You have 4 R2 1u novelty keys and I don't know which popular layout uses these (even full size and TKL use 3 R2 1u keys: delete, end and PgDn). I think changing key row won't affect the price, right? Since you don't add new keys nor modify their size.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Norweigan Vendor Announced! | Kitting Update!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 05 March 2021, 18:09:38
Hi Ram, norwegian  :p :p :p. Can we have some of the R2 novelty 1u keys moved to R3 and R4 to cover the column of (end, pgdn, pgup, home, etc). You have 4 R2 1u novelty keys and I don't know which popular layout uses these (even full size and TKL use 3 R2 1u keys: delete, end and PgDn). I think changing key row won't affect the price, right? Since you don't add new keys nor modify their size.
I'll take a look and see since originally it was for boards that have an extra row above the numpad and just for the f-row(,  pricing wise it won't affect it yeah, just gotta see which ones would be best to move down and if other people want it moved down too or not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 07 March 2021, 18:06:28
Bump for update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: HappyB0T on Mon, 08 March 2021, 13:47:11
I'm going to join GB - just wondering how much it is gonna cost me. ;) Still pumped - pretty sure this set is going to do very well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: GMK_Andy on Mon, 08 March 2021, 19:59:15
Just wanted to say I still dig this set! Looking forward to the final outcome :thumb:

On a side note, this may be the simplest comment I've ever made on a forum in regards to Arch haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 08 March 2021, 20:42:23
Just wanted to say I still dig this set! Looking forward to the final outcome :thumb:

On a side note, this may be the simplest comment I've ever made on a forum in regards to Arch haha
I'm going to join GB - just wondering how much it is gonna cost me. ;) Still pumped - pretty sure this set is going to do very well.
Thanks Haha!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: GoodGuyEntity on Wed, 10 March 2021, 14:53:00
Can't wait for this set:)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 10 March 2021, 15:37:36
Great set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: nvh2092 on Wed, 10 March 2021, 16:23:35
I believe the Localization Kit needs a R4 1u pipe key for ISO UK layout.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 10 March 2021, 17:00:42
I believe the Localization Kit needs a R4 1u pipe key for ISO UK layout.
Noted, Makign the update once I get the chance
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: JohnyNFullEffect on Thu, 11 March 2021, 16:19:38
So..... When's this going to drop?   Excited to build another keeb
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 11 March 2021, 17:03:46
So..... When's this going to drop?   Excited to build another keeb
Announcement coming before the end of the month  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: qquark on Sat, 13 March 2021, 21:56:05
that tilde in the renders looks quite big compared to other keycap sets. Is that intended? It looks awkward a bit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | All 18 Collaborations Announced!
Post by: Ram on Sat, 13 March 2021, 22:00:12
that tilde in the renders looks quite big compared to other keycap sets. Is that intended? It looks awkward a bit.
Hmm, it looks about the same to the gmk sets I've seen in person/the ones I see in GH on renders. It'll use a standard mold so if it seems big to you, it'll be a normal tilde key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 16 March 2021, 11:26:21
New IC Form posted, please fill this out even if you've already filled out the original IC form, Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: azzipa on Tue, 16 March 2021, 11:41:49
New IC Form posted, please fill this out even if you've already filled out the original IC form, Thanks!

responded. fyi, my issue isn't how interested -- or not -- i am in purchasing this set. my issues are (1) $ available, as quite a few sets have my interest; and, (2) how many sets can i really use*. making decisions in next week or so.


*hint: there are more sets that i really like than i can possibly use, and i feel some responsibility not to be a consumer just because i like something.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 17 March 2021, 05:02:59
GLWIC, Ram!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Uggsy on Wed, 17 March 2021, 12:53:13
Beautiful, take all of my money !
(I use Arch btw)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 17 March 2021, 19:32:16
GLWIC, Ram!

Beautiful, take all of my money !
(I use Arch btw)

New IC Form posted, please fill this out even if you've already filled out the original IC form, Thanks!

responded. fyi, my issue isn't how interested -- or not -- i am in purchasing this set. my issues are (1) $ available, as quite a few sets have my interest; and, (2) how many sets can i really use*. making decisions in next week or so.


*hint: there are more sets that i really like than i can possibly use, and i feel some responsibility not to be a consumer just because i like something.

Thanks! and yeah that's totally understandable
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: v683 on Thu, 18 March 2021, 02:18:31
That GCC set is impressive, what the set might need is a 1u r3 ctrl. Has anyone mentioned a colevrak kit yet, because I always wonder when it's okay to ask for it considering very few use it, but I hope that may be different for a "niche" set like this (Arch and 2(?) orthos). This set is a winner
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 18 March 2021, 16:12:15
That GCC set is impressive, what the set might need is a 1u r3 ctrl. Has anyone mentioned a colevrak kit yet, because I always wonder when it's okay to ask for it considering very few use it, but I hope that may be different for a "niche" set like this (Arch and 2(?) orthos). This set is a winner
It's going to be a pricey kit so I won't be putting any more keys than there already is in it currently sadly. Colevrak won't happen sadly because just not enough people asked nor would raising the kit count to 8 be a good idea for a first run imo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: pmdbt on Thu, 18 March 2021, 16:34:06
Omg, I have never been so psyched for a keycap set before! I'm so happy that more people are focusing on programming and distro-themed sets. While I'm a POP OS user myself, I've always loved the Arch aesthetic. I Will definitely join in on the GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: JohnyNFullEffect on Thu, 18 March 2021, 16:59:11
It's going to be a pricey kit

We talking over $300USD or under?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | IC Form V2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 18 March 2021, 18:08:43
Omg, I have never been so psyched for a keycap set before! I'm so happy that more people are focusing on programming and distro-themed sets. While I'm a POP OS user myself, I've always loved the Arch aesthetic. I Will definitely join in on the GB :)
Thanks :) Glad to see that there's so many linux users in the hobby!

It's going to be a pricey kit

We talking over $300USD or under?
Near avg base kit pricing, just on the higher end,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 21 March 2021, 13:43:09
bump for update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Mark The Weeb on Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:27:14
what a hacker bro
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: andtar2 on Mon, 22 March 2021, 06:40:25
Any chance you could offer Trimat-deskmat without the Arch logo aswell? Its a great dark grey design that could work with other combos/keysets :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Mon, 22 March 2021, 20:52:48
Any chance you could offer Trimat-deskmat without the Arch logo aswell? Its a great dark grey design that could work with other combos/keysets :)
Hey personally for the Trimat I feel like the Arch logo is one of the things that keep it thematically on point, though if I end up not liking the proto I get I could always make the change haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Nuap on Thu, 25 March 2021, 16:27:22
Thanks for applying what I believe to be the correct casing to the enter novelty  :thumb:

Now I just have to wait for the GB - I am very excited about the ortho/ergo kit, many sets run recently have been missing 2x2u spacebars in even their ortho extension kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: xryx on Thu, 25 March 2021, 20:37:21
I like this set and not just because it's based off my bistro :). Definitely in for the Shell and AUR kits. And maybe the GCC for my work board.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 26 March 2021, 01:06:46
I like this set and not just because it's based off my bistro :). Definitely in for the Shell and AUR kits. And maybe the GCC for my work board.


 :thumb: I'd been meaning to change it for a bit!

Thanks for applying what I believe to be the correct casing to the enter novelty  :thumb:

Now I just have to wait for the GB - I am very excited about the ortho/ergo kit, many sets run recently have been missing 2x2u spacebars in even their ortho extension kits.
Thanks!

Also a small update for the set, Powerline will now include accent 2x2u and Alice bars, AUR has the btw lowercased and the novs adjusted for 65 and 75 nav columns, and the localization kit has a r4 pipe key now as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: brucheta on Fri, 26 March 2021, 08:22:58
Hello, a bit off topic. I plan to get the GMMK pro and I would like these keycaps. Would the base set be enough for me? Also, can you recommend a good switch? I already have 2 sets of Cherry mx and wanted to try another brand but I've read that Kailh and Gateron are both clones of Cherry? So maybe I should stick with Cherry? Thanks a lot for making this btw!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: geewiz on Fri, 26 March 2021, 11:25:00
Hello, a bit off topic. I plan to get the GMMK pro and I would like these keycaps. Would the base set be enough for me? Also, can you recommend a good switch? I already have 2 sets of Cherry mx and wanted to try another brand but I've read that Kailh and Gateron are both clones of Cherry? So maybe I should stick with Cherry? Thanks a lot for making this btw!

As it says in the description, "The Shell Kit is where it all starts, containing everything you need for the most common layouts", and that includes the Pro's 75% layout.

With regard to switches, that's a highly subjective topic. I recommend consulting a few of the mechanical keyboard channels on YouTube to learn more about your options. Among other things, you'll hear Chewie advise you to buy a switch tester.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: brucheta on Fri, 26 March 2021, 15:41:45
Hello, a bit off topic. I plan to get the GMMK pro and I would like these keycaps. Would the base set be enough for me? Also, can you recommend a good switch? I already have 2 sets of Cherry mx and wanted to try another brand but I've read that Kailh and Gateron are both clones of Cherry? So maybe I should stick with Cherry? Thanks a lot for making this btw!

As it says in the description, "The Shell Kit is where it all starts, containing everything you need for the most common layouts", and that includes the Pro's 75% layout.

With regard to switches, that's a highly subjective topic. I recommend consulting a few of the mechanical keyboard channels on YouTube to learn more about your options. Among other things, you'll hear Chewie advise you to buy a switch tester.

Thank you, should have mentionned that I am not looking for recommendation on which switch since I understand it is subject to personal taste, but was wondering what are good quality switches that would fit both the keyboard and these particular keycaps. I am a noob at building a full keyboard.


Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 26 March 2021, 17:55:04
Hello, a bit off topic. I plan to get the GMMK pro and I would like these keycaps. Would the base set be enough for me? Also, can you recommend a good switch? I already have 2 sets of Cherry mx and wanted to try another brand but I've read that Kailh and Gateron are both clones of Cherry? So maybe I should stick with Cherry? Thanks a lot for making this btw!

As it says in the description, "The Shell Kit is where it all starts, containing everything you need for the most common layouts", and that includes the Pro's 75% layout.

With regard to switches, that's a highly subjective topic. I recommend consulting a few of the mechanical keyboard channels on YouTube to learn more about your options. Among other things, you'll hear Chewie advise you to buy a switch tester.

Thank you, should have mentionned that I am not looking for recommendation on which switch since I understand it is subject to personal taste, but was wondering what are good quality switches that would fit both the keyboard and these particular keycaps. I am a noob at building a full keyboard.


Thanks a lot!

Hey! In terms of matching switches if you go on aliexpress you can fidn that durock sells a version of their L1 that looks pretty close to the colors of the set,  For the base kitting, yeah you won't have an issue for your gmmk pro
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: brucheta on Sat, 27 March 2021, 09:14:44
Awesome thanks so much for the answer and the hard work! Can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: JohnyNFullEffect on Sat, 27 March 2021, 15:33:41
What profile are these?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Sat, 27 March 2021, 21:53:35
What profile are these?
GMK only does cherry so cherry
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: frostiiz on Tue, 30 March 2021, 04:19:08
Great keyset !
I would love to back this and get my hands on when the GB opens, but there's no ISO support of the french layout...
May I have a chance of seeing an addition to the Intl kit, or even a separate one ?

I use Arch btw.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Lenders on Tue, 30 March 2021, 08:23:21
Hope it's not too late but is there any possibility to see it rendered on a lighter colored board please? Like any silver or e.white, no fancy colors
Ty!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:24:56
Hope it's not too late but is there any possibility to see it rendered on a lighter colored board please? Like any silver or e.white, no fancy colors
Ty!
Already had a render with a light colored board but hadn't added it since it was a krk render, I'll put it in just as a reference later today

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:25:33
Message double sent, mods please delete this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:27:15
Great keyset !
I would love to back this and get my hands on when the GB opens, but there's no ISO support of the french layout...
May I have a chance of seeing an addition to the Intl kit, or even a separate one ?

I use Arch btw.
From what I've seen the demand for it just isn't enough to be worth the risk of having another kit or increasing the cost sadly

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Lenders on Tue, 30 March 2021, 15:47:41
Hope it's not too late but is there any possibility to see it rendered on a lighter colored board please? Like any silver or e.white, no fancy colors
Ty!
Already had a render with a light colored board but hadn't added it since it was a krk render, I'll put it in just as a reference later today

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Thanks!
Oof, looks even better than I thought. I'm never gonna financially recover from this...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: JbstormburstADV on Wed, 31 March 2021, 06:57:24
As someone who made a few contributions to the first incarnation of the AUI script, I am definitely going in on this set.  And the Trimat.  Who knows what else once the novelties are shown off.

I use(d) Arch, btw.
Mainly since i work in a Windows shop, but if I had the opportunity to do it, I would.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 31 March 2021, 12:42:23
As someone who made a few contributions to the first incarnation of the AUI script, I am definitely going in on this set.  And the Trimat.  Who knows what else once the novelties are shown off.

I use(d) Arch, btw.
Mainly since i work in a Windows shop, but if I had the opportunity to do it, I would.

Thanks haha! Honestly amazing to know that some of the major community devs like the set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | GB Date Announced + WristRest Proto | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: JbstormburstADV on Wed, 31 March 2021, 15:46:27
Thanks haha! Honestly amazing to know that some of the major community devs like the set!

I wouldn't ever call myself a major developer by any means, since AUI was the only thing I jumped in on, but I wouldn't be surprised considering Arch Trademark is apparently behind it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:00:20
bump for update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 12 April 2021, 01:07:30
Bump gang. This is forklift certified!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Trigozen on Mon, 12 April 2021, 01:08:57
mmmm niiice keycaps yes? :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: NGame on Mon, 12 April 2021, 13:10:44
HEAT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Tue, 13 April 2021, 13:16:40
HEAT


mmmm niiice keycaps yes? :cool: :cool: :cool:

Bump gang. This is forklift certified!

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: kibasanji on Wed, 14 April 2021, 17:19:05
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SET!

An arch keycap set for the arch linux user :cool: safe to say that my enter button will be macroed to "I use arch btw" when I get this set, this has easily become my most sought after set!

GLWIC! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: XiXora on Wed, 14 April 2021, 18:28:15
Are there 1.5u Supers in base or GUI kit at all for the HHKB/Mac types?

I may just be blind.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Wed, 14 April 2021, 20:31:13
Quote
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SET!

An arch keycap set for the arch linux user :cool: safe to say that my enter button will be macroed to "I use arch btw" when I get this set, this has easily become my most sought after set!

GLWIC! :thumb:

Thanks!

Are there 1.5u Supers in base or GUI kit at all for the HHKB/Mac types?

I may just be blind.

Personally a 1.5 super user(for alice mainly) but for the sake of cost effectiveness in the base kit there isn't any 1.5 supers,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Thu, 15 April 2021, 02:16:33
Pre-Update: By the End Of Next Week(hopefully) There will be a major update with new kit renders and board renders that are all color accurate(alphas will be darker mods a slight shade bluer) along with Asero Cap Announcements and Pricing! More may also be announced then but not confirmed yet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: abucazu on Sun, 18 April 2021, 13:42:51
Is there any option to add ISO ES keys in the Location kit? It would be an insta buy for me  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: noahf on Sun, 18 April 2021, 14:35:22
I’m psyched on this kit.

Anyway to add stepped control and also matching vim keys to the match the mod colored alphas?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 18 April 2021, 15:34:31


Is there any option to add ISO ES keys in the Location kit? It would be an insta buy for me  :-[
Quote

I’m psyched on this kit.

Anyway to add stepped control and also matching vim keys to the match the mod colored alphas?

Mod vim keys I was considering but had to scrap to keep gui and tty prices lower, kitting has been finalized as a whole so I wouldn't be able to make the other suggestions possible sadly

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Fri, 23 April 2021, 11:13:02
bump for completely new board renders, and new prototypes, pricing update later today hopefully
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Sun, 25 April 2021, 12:42:40
Bump for:
Nutcracker Renders, Clackeys Collab renders, Bear Cables and Zeus Cables protos, Dread Keys Protos, New Collaboration(Golden Star Keycaps), Asero Foundries 3D protos, New Board and Kit renders, and pricing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Necrolegion on Sun, 25 April 2021, 20:47:27
Finally this kit goes live!

As an ME major, graduating soon. I want to get this kit not just for me, but my girlfriend. Been pushing her into Comp Sci and although she hasn't touched Linux as much as I have, this set will probably grow into her later on in her studies.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: HappyB0T on Sun, 25 April 2021, 20:51:28
Pricing for the base kit looks solid. I have been watching this set for a while - I probably would have pulled the trigger on almost all kits had it gone live sooner. I'm in for at least Base, Alphas and Bars. Thanks for posing the pricing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: TK0 on Sun, 25 April 2021, 21:08:30
Wow. Finally a GMK with a full Ortho/Ergo kit, haven't seen those in a while.  :thumb:

I'm on Manjaro right now, but maybe this set will make me finally switch to Arch. Getting the Ergo kit, hopefully it hits MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: noahf on Sun, 25 April 2021, 21:17:41


Is there any option to add ISO ES keys in the Location kit? It would be an insta buy for me  :-[
Quote

I’m psyched on this kit.

Anyway to add stepped control and also matching vim keys to the match the mod colored alphas?

Mod vim keys I was considering but had to scrap to keep gui and tty prices lower, kitting has been finalized as a whole so I wouldn't be able to make the other suggestions possible sadly

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk



great pricing. hopefully when you smash 2k kits you can add this :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: TK0 on Sun, 25 April 2021, 21:24:32
It looks like the color of the cable from BearCables doesn't seem to match the kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Deskmat Prototypes! | IC FormV2 Please Fill Out!
Post by: Ram on Sun, 25 April 2021, 22:45:16


Is there any option to add ISO ES keys in the Location kit? It would be an insta buy for me  :-[
Quote

I’m psyched on this kit.

Anyway to add stepped control and also matching vim keys to the match the mod colored alphas?

Mod vim keys I was considering but had to scrap to keep gui and tty prices lower, kitting has been finalized as a whole so I wouldn't be able to make the other suggestions possible sadly

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk



great pricing. hopefully when you smash 2k kits you can add this :P
Thinking about it haha, might throw in 2 extra keys that a few people have been begging me for as well, but no guarantees for now haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Sun, 25 April 2021, 23:10:51
Also if anyone wants to help support the set from now till group buy end share this link! gmk-arch.com (http://gmk-arch.com/) (Also put it in your discord status :D)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Mon, 26 April 2021, 10:42:02
Oh this is nice!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: shoujoA on Tue, 27 April 2021, 09:36:26
Might be a tad late, but why are there 4 R3 1u blanks yet no 1u convex bars in the ergo/ortho/40s kit?
I assume the blanks are for ortho/innermost columns for ergo users, but there are existing legend-ed 1u keys, so it seems extraneous?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:30:34
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787854722560294919/836625915634384906/Screenshot_20210427-083227_Discord.jpg)

Artkey Raffles are starting soon!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Wed, 28 April 2021, 12:23:21
Might be a tad late, but why are there 4 R3 1u blanks yet no 1u convex bars in the ergo/ortho/40s kit?
I assume the blanks are for ortho/innermost columns for ergo users, but there are existing legend-ed 1u keys, so it seems extraneous?
Hey, 2 of those 1us are supposed to act as spacebars, and the other two mod colored ones for weirder ergos or full sized ergos
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Thu, 29 April 2021, 23:27:36
Last Post before we move to the GB thread:
Clackeys FCFS Just Started here (https://www.clackeys.com/arch) limited so move fast!
Zeus Cables FCFS is at 10AM Amsterdam time(1AM PST and 4AM EST so unless you want the braided cable I recommend waiting for the Bear Cables Drop) limited to 15un Braided  (https://www.clackeys.com/arch)cables and 15 normal (https://zeusworks.eu/collections/all/products/arch-artisan-cable) ones.

LandCaps (https://www.instagram.com/landcaps.keycap/) and Winkeys (https://www.instagram.com/winkeys) will have their raffles at 11AM PST/2PM EST tomorrow, raffle will be in the links in their respective bios and photos are in the protos post(first comment on IC)

Daily Clack is Live! (https://dailyclack.com/collections/group-buys/products/gmk-arch?variant=39313562927159)

KBDFans and Swag Keys will be going live in the next few hours as well, though if you're in the US please wait till the M&C launch at 3PM EST Tomorrow so you can save on shipping and base kit cost compared to KBDFans

Mechfashion Sleeve Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe90MPr5X81im_r-il3nydc3ETHXc8X6-3rBj0Rm7avcO6ETQ/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Arch | Pricing! | Major IC Changes | Collab Prototypes
Post by: Ram on Thu, 29 April 2021, 23:53:57
Locking this post, move over to here:

GB Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112566)