Author Topic: Another IBM SSK (Read 15763 times)

So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?

I bet that person that just bought the crappy one must have some regrets now. But then again, they have more dollars than sense. So I am sure they will also bid on this one

The_Beast · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:32 »

Quote from: thecableguy on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:23:58

Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:20:46
Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:58
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.

Nice and naked

Haha. Are you talking about a keyboard? )

No just other men

Halverson · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:36 »

Quote from: thecableguy on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:23:58

Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:20:46
Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:19:58
Nice.

Very handsome with no label, I like it better that way.

Nice and naked

Haha. Are you talking about a keyboard? )

Zeal · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:36:09 »

Another industrial popping out of no where?

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tjcaustin · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:41:10 »

Wonder if it will hit 500 before an hour's time listed.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:51:28 »

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:36:09

Another industrial popping out of no where?

I'm sure that the seller figures that this one will go for considerably more than the last one, since it is so much better.

Unfortunately, it often works the opposite way and the first one sells for the most.

All a function of how many drooling buyers with deep pockets are lurking out there.

smknjoe · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:53:08 »

...they just keep popping up like magic! I don't think I've ever seen a NIB Industrial before. Why does it not have a logo? Field replacement stock?

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:57:39 »

The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).

Zeal · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 21:12:48 »

And it's already 300 within minutes!

)

dorkvader · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 04 February 2014, 21:40:32 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:57:39

The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).

For a while, unicomp had replacement top (not bottom) covers for industrial SSKs, Perhaps it's one of those? I'm not too familiar with IBM FRUs from the early 1990's Perhaps you were supposed to apply whichever case badge it was supposed to have.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:55:57 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:04

So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?

I bet that person that just bought the crappy one must have some regrets now. But then again, they have more dollars than sense. So I am sure they will also bid on this one

Unlikely-- the guy who outbid me on the last one was from Germany, and this seller doesn't offer international shipping.

And since I'm not terribly interested in a NIB SSK without a badge, I'll probably pass this one up as well.

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:57:39

The lack of a badge/logo seems odd to me for a brand new keyboard in the IBM box, complete with the ship label from IBM (due to the FRU numbers would seem to mean it was part of a larger shipment to a corporate customer).

41G3600 is a valid ISSK p/n, so this one looks correct as a variant, wonder if it was destined to be badged at the customer location (maybe an A/B industrial?).

There have been NIB Model Ms lacking badges before, so it's definitely not an uncommon thing. Definitely annoying, for sure.
--> getting the black badge for that thing is probably going to be more difficult than the SSK itself considering unicomp doesn't have any left.

Elrick · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 05 February 2014, 03:10:07 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM on Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:55:57

There have been NIB Model Ms lacking badges before, so it's definitely not an uncommon thing. Definitely annoying, for sure.
--> getting the black badge for that thing is probably going to be more difficult than the SSK itself considering unicomp doesn't have any left.

Did you know that here in convict town they have badge makers that can produce a hand full of badges out of plastic, aluminum, stainless steel and/or ceramic coated steel. They specialize in small logos on plates/flat surfaces and what not.

I'm sure you'll have something similar where you live. That way you can imitate the original plastic badge with something that makes any SSK or 101 keyboard shine with exclusivity

.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 05 February 2014, 06:35:34 »

The oval labels seem too big and wrongly placed on these, and I have always preferred metal badges to plastic labels anyway.

Something superior could be easily made (considering the price that this will fetch, a new label would be trivial) and probably look much better.

Of course, this item will be bought by a purist, so the label may well be very important. If I bought it, and I won't, I would be pleased to leave it naked. I only wish that the oval depression was not there.

snoopy · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 05 February 2014, 06:46:26 »

this board is totally worthless without the badge. so nobody bid on it!

Thechemist · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 06 February 2014, 23:42:35 »

Here is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 07 February 2014, 07:06:44 »

Quote from: Thechemist on Thu, 06 February 2014, 23:42:35

Here is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.

That's not the correct badge, it's too large. The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back. Didn't fit.

Thechemist · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:02:36 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 07 February 2014, 07:06:44

Quote from: Thechemist on Thu, 06 February 2014, 23:42:35
Here is the badge for it.

Edit: and gone.

That's not the correct badge, it's too large. The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back. Didn't fit.

I measured my badges and they were also 1-1/4 x 3/4"

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:35:55 »

Quote from: Thechemist on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:02:36

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 07 February 2014, 07:06:44
That's not the correct badge, it's too large. The seller has had others and someone bought one of these a while back. Didn't fit.

I measured my badges and they were also 1-1/4 x 3/4"

The standard M oval badge is 1" x 3/4". The SSK badge is slightly smaller.

harryM · « **Reply #26 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:26:24 »

Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

Michael · « **Reply #27 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:27:21 »

Quote from: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:26:24

Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

That's nice.

meiosis · « **Reply #28 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:44:09 »

Quote from: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:26:24

Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

They say once you go black you can't go back

Zeal · « **Reply #29 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:46:40 »

I like how the price jumped by $1.2k.

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Michael · « **Reply #30 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:47:37 »

Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:46:40

I like how the price jumped by $1.2k. )

It's a common problem known as; more dollars than sense.

Also...

Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:24:04

So if we use logic here; that ****ty, dinged up industrial sold for 1k, that must mean this will go for at least double... amirite?

thecableguy · « **Reply #31 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:52:44 »

US $3,050.00 already

Michael · « **Reply #32 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:53:46 »

Quote from: thecableguy on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:52:44

US $3,050.00 already

Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.

thecableguy · « **Reply #33 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:56:03 »

Holy cow! US $4,850.00 with 1 day 16 hours left.

harryM · « **Reply #34 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:58:10 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:53:46

Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.

No, I will own this product. I must have it.

Zeal · « **Reply #35 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:00:06 »

That private feedback bidder....Seems legit

Michael · « **Reply #36 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:01:18 »

Quote from: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:58:10

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:53:46

Looks like someone is more serious than harryM about owning it.

No, I will own this product. I must have it.

seek help

Michael · « **Reply #37 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:01:52 »

Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:00:06

That private feedback bidder....Seems legit

So can the seller see their feedback? If not, that would be a red flag, I would imagine.

Michael · « **Reply #38 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:02:47 »

US $9,877.00

mm87 · « **Reply #39 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:04:24 »

The other guy bidding against harryM is probably just driving the price up without actually wanting to buy it, after harryM so confidently assured us that he WILL be the one winning it.

REVENGE · « **Reply #40 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:04:25 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:02:47

US $9,877.00

In 5 minutes...

On the bright side, now that the price has been artificially inflated, the information might propagate more extensively through the network and increase supply.

Michael · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:05:30 »

Quote from: mm87 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:04:24

The other guy bidding against harryM is probably just driving the price up without actually wanting to buy it, after harryM so confidently assured us that he WILL be the one winning it.

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:47:37

It's a common problem known as; more dollars than sense.

thecableguy · « **Reply #42 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:09:05 »

Although any price is possible when you have serious collectors bidding, a price this high is just insane.

Michael · « **Reply #43 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:13:05 »

so is harryM the guy with private feedback?

Zeal · « **Reply #44 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:14:24 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:13:05

so is harryM the guy with private feedback?

Could be either or -- not sure if troll vs troll, or troll vs harryM.

Glissant · « **Reply #45 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:15:27 »

I call bull****.

Michael · « **Reply #46 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:17:01 »

Back to 586

REVENGE · « **Reply #47 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:17:21 »

We are happy to report that radioactivity has returned to normal levels.

Zeal · « **Reply #48 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:18:41 »

So..seller deleted bids or did ebay step in?

REVENGE · « **Reply #49 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:20:10 »

Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:18:41

So..seller deleted bids or did ebay step in?

Did the CIA do 41G3613?

Wildcard · « **Reply #50 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:26:15 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:17:01

Back to 586

When keeping it real goes wrong.

Michael · « **Reply #51 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:34:23 »

Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.

Michael · « **Reply #52 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:41:09 »

so harryM - what happened, bro?

harryM · « **Reply #53 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:45:38 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:34:23

Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.

As this board is Virgin, it is very desirable. I am unsure whether to contact the seller and make an offer due to the shrill bidder.

Wildcard · « **Reply #54 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:46:12 »

I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.

Michael · « **Reply #55 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:50:58 »

Well, the sellers name is on the money

'Rayp999' (r a p e)

harryM · « **Reply #56 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:53:45 »

Quote from: Wildcard on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:46:12

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I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.

Whilst my maximum price was not reached, an offer to the seller now could seal a price much lower than lets say, a second chance offer at the end.

Wildcard · « **Reply #57 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:58:35 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 04:50:58

Well, the sellers name is on the money

'Rayp999' (r a p e)

So I didn't see the bidding happen, so I'm only assuming here. But my bet is that Daddy Warbucks here has a very high bid entered and someone else decided to test the waters to see how high that bid goes? And that shill bidder, whom we'll call "Anne" quickly retracted their bids.

I'm going to just grab some popcorn and see how this one plays out.

vivalarevolución · « **Reply #58 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:16:49 »

Alright, who's the joker here? Currently at $666.66.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #59 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:18:31 »

Both shill bids were made within a minute of each other:
r***2 ( private ) Retracted: US $9,777.00 Bid: Feb-08-14 02:00:43 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:14:09 PST f***d ( 118 ) Retracted: US $9,999.00 Bid: Feb-08-14 01:59:51 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:11:51 PST

And both were retracted about ten minutes later within a few minutes of each other. Doubt the seller is that quick. We know that ebay wouldn't do a thing.

Both were from bidders who previously had bid on German items.

The one with the private rating has 3 bid retractions in the past six months and not much else. The other bids on computer equipment, almost exclusively keyboards - he may have been the winner of one of the recent ssk and industrial auctions that went to German winners.

They're obviously the same person.

And now that they exposed what the real highest bidder's high bid was, someone came along as a wiseass and bid $656.66, knowing full well someone had a higher bid in and it would autobid to $666.66.

harryM · « **Reply #60 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:37:06 »

This board is perfect with the date of manufacture matching my sons birthday. My bid will be placed at the end.

Me and my partner have been saving for a deposit on a house, however I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.

Michael · « **Reply #61 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 10:47:33 »

Quote from: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:37:06

I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.

I am not too sure you understand women...

intelli78 · « **Reply #62 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:11:50 »

Quote from: harryM on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:26:24

Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.

Laser · « **Reply #63 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:13:51 »

So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?

harryM · « **Reply #64 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:28:33 »

Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:11:50

I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.

In all seriousness though, I will be winning this item

harryM · « **Reply #65 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:01:03 »

Quote from: Laser on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:13:51

So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?

If someone bid $800 and it went for $2K I doubt they would feel like they just missed out. I can see retracted bids from shrills putting people off, it would be interesting to know if their are any other serious collectors bidding on this piece. I assume there are.

Quote from: Bro Caps on Sat, 08 February 2014, 10:47:33

I am not too sure you understand women...

) I'm sure she won't mind

smknjoe · « **Reply #66 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:36 »

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

intelli78 · « **Reply #67 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:12:14 »

Quote from: smknjoe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:36

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!

Pacifist · « **Reply #68 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:12:49 »

Quote from: smknjoe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:36

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

+1

meiosis · « **Reply #69 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 14:15:53 »

I'm preparing for a $1,500 snipe

fohat.digs · « **Reply #70 on:** Sat, 08 February 2014, 14:19:27 »

You guys should work something out in private so that you don't just hurt each other needlessly while lining the pockets of a stranger.

tinlong117 · « **Reply #71 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:00:29 »

lel, 1,133.11 usd

intelli78 · « **Reply #72 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:11:18 »

Quote from: tinlong117 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:00:29

lel, 1,133.11 usd

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

harryM · « **Reply #73 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:47:32 »

Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:11:18

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.

harryM · « **Reply #74 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:50:17 »

Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:12:14

Quote from: smknjoe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:36
Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!

I shall post pictures when I get back from work

tjcaustin · « **Reply #75 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:52:15 »

Quote from: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:47:32

Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 01:11:18

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.

You mean the same as how you, out of the numerous that messaged the guy, somehow talked the guy selling 30 model Ms in bulk to sell you only one for $100 when he refused earlier in the week to sell all 5 for $750? Hm.

Photoelectric · « **Reply #76 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:56:03 »

Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard... Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

harryM · « **Reply #77 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:34:28 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:56:03

Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard... Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?

daetsid · « **Reply #78 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:39:03 »

Quote from: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:34:28

Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 11:56:03
Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard... Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?

15k to you, right? : >

smknjoe · « **Reply #79 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:44:47 »

$600-$800 at the most.

vivalarevolución · « **Reply #80 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:31:13 »

I'm gonna paint an SSK gray and see what I can get for it after this show.

smknjoe · « **Reply #81 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:33:15 »

Don't forget to print out an appropriate label for the back.

spuriousgeorge · « **Reply #82 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:14:23 »

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

Pacifist · « **Reply #83 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:15:22 »

it has the industrial case and is pretty much new

Photoelectric · « **Reply #84 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:17:15 »

Quote from: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:14:23

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

Merged your new thread with the original thread here.

intelli78 · « **Reply #85 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:17:47 »

Quote from: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:14:23

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

No functional difference, just prettier and rarer.

harryM · « **Reply #86 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:24:47 »

Quote from: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:14:23

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

The industrial keyboards have more placebo than the regular buckling spring systems.

spuriousgeorge · « **Reply #87 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:29:47 »

Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?

intelli78 · « **Reply #88 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:31:27 »

Quote from: spuriousgeorge on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:29:47

Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?

Yup

smknjoe · « **Reply #89 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:33:48 »

...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.

intelli78 · « **Reply #90 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:35:31 »

Quote from: smknjoe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:33:48

...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.

This one sold for $1,100 last week

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-1395682-Space-Saver-Industrial-Grey-Vintage-/171225517180?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item27ddd60c7c

smknjoe · « **Reply #91 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:37:37 »

Besides that one.

harryM · « **Reply #92 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:39:16 »

Prices are on the rise. The build quality of these, well second to none. Even a modern mechanical keyboard isn't built to last with marketing people interfering and cost cutting etc. It makes no sense to make a keyboard to last forever, though the IBM was.

You can always take a model M and put key caps on it or spray it grey, or whatever... But it will never be of that original quality.

spuriousgeorge · « **Reply #93 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:40:38 »

You're right, harryM, their placebo is off the charts.

intelli78 · « **Reply #94 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:41:47 »

Quote from: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 14:39:16

Prices are on the rise.

Let's see pics of the last one!

Thechemist · « **Reply #95 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:09:52 »

Code: [Select]

Bidder  	                                                                       Action	                                                        Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)	                                               Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

fohat.digs · « **Reply #96 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:25:48 »

Apparently a lot of people feel the way that I do, in that the absence of the label is not a negative, and may be a plus.

Either badge or label seems fine on a standard M, but they just seem too big and awkward on the SSK.

harryM · « **Reply #97 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:45:10 »

Quote from: Thechemist on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:09:52

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Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99) Retracted: US $14,000.00 Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>

jdcarpe · « **Reply #98 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:47:45 »

Quote from: harryM on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:45:10

Quote from: Thechemist on Sun, 09 February 2014, 15:09:52
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Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99) Retracted: US $14,000.00 Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>

Maybe they meant to bid $1,400.00?

fohat.digs · « **Reply #99 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 16:11:07 »

Whatever happened to stealth and keeping your business on the down-low?

vivalarevolución · « **Reply #100 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:30:32 »

The joker is back. 1999.99.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #101 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:11:37 »

That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method. Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months. Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.

vivalarevolución · « **Reply #102 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:28:04 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:11:37

That's the same jackass that pushed the bid up to 666.66 earlier, with the same method. Even the current top bidder has a retraction in the past six months. Have never seen more bidders with retractions in one auction or so many outrageous bids.

Just to think who is really getting hurt here: The poor little keyboard. It will be recovering from this trauma for a long time.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #103 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:37:09 »

Yes, I'm sure it'll be heartbroken.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #104 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:23:22 »

I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #105 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:48:12 »

Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:23:22

I didn't even know that it was possible to retract a bid.

I didn't either.

intelli78 · « **Reply #106 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:54:21 »

Anyone want to call the final price?

riotonthebay · « **Reply #107 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:00:53 »

I… didn't expect that.

Sniping · « **Reply #108 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:30 »

well that was anticlimatic

Photoelectric · « **Reply #109 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:01:58 »

Bets on whether the top bidders will pull out by not paying after rethinking the value?

hwood34 · « **Reply #110 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:07:03 »

"Yeah, sorry, I was out of the house, my dog must have bid on that."

intelli78 · « **Reply #111 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:00 »

Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:54:21

Anyone want to call the final price?

Photekq · « **Reply #112 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:48 »

Aww... I wanted it to go to $15,000.

Thechemist · « **Reply #113 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:08:53 »

nothing tops " I was drunk"

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #114 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:11:57 »

With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

Photoelectric · « **Reply #115 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:17:44 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:11:57

With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here. The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now. It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value. Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #116 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:33:04 »

Seems about right, less than twice what a decidedly inferior specimen went for last week.

demik · « **Reply #117 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:35:10 »

Ssk 2014 overhyped over priced keyboard.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #118 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:40:50 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:17:44

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:11:57
With the high bids being exposed by the outrageously high retracted bids it wouldn't shock me if the top bidder walked away.

The same two green bidders did most of the push up of the price, and anyone watching closely would have known what to bid to push but not surpass the top bid.

It wasn't gambling this time, just straight forward *******ry.

I'm not sure I follow that logic here. The top bidder still bid up to or even above the amount it is at now. It was within that person's allocated maximum bid value. Even with potential fake bids to get the price up.

Yes, in the end, he's still paying what he was willing to pay.

But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids. Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.

dorkvader · « **Reply #119 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 21:46:26 »

Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:30:32

The joker is back. 1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.

jwaz · « **Reply #120 on:** Sun, 09 February 2014, 23:39:38 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 09 February 2014, 21:46:26

Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:30:32
The joker is back. 1999.99.

And it stayed there, interesting.

Well it's a great keyboard! I hope whoever got it enjoys it!

I can't wait for 3 years from now when Hall effect KBs hit these prices.

Yeah, that ain't going to happen

Zaskar · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:50:00 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Sun, 09 February 2014, 20:40:50

But he's paying more than what he would have paid if there were none of this nonsense with the over-the-top bidding and retractions.

There's some obviously fake bids in there using information gained from the high retracted bids. Whether they were working in conjunction with the seller or just being *******s will remain a mystery.

Hard to believe so many people bid so early. You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:08:24 »

Quote from: Zaskar on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:50:00

You need to wait until the last 10-30 seconds to place your bid, a single maximum value that you would be willing to pay (the closer to the end the better, but don't let a slow machine or problem with the bid cause you to miss it). Only exception is if there is a buy it now that's priced higher then you are willing to pay, in which case place minimum bid to remove it and then wait.

Any earlier bids is like playing cards and keeping yours face up on the table in front of you for everyone to see.

Hello.

Sniping.

Any legitimate bid at any time removes the Buy It Now.

intelli78 · « **Reply #123 on:** Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:11:04 »

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #124 on:** Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23 »

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #125 on:** Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:31:05 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23

I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #126 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:38:26 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:31:05

Quote from: EverythingIBM on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23
I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.

tjcaustin · « **Reply #127 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM on Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:38:26

Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:31:05

Quote from: EverythingIBM on Tue, 11 February 2014, 22:07:23
I will say more on the matter once this is over with. Messy.

I thought it was over? Is there some drama going on now, post-sale? Who woulda guessed that...

Shill bidding is violating the terms of a bid retraction. Once that is looked at, the transaction can continue.

You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Photoelectric · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58 »

Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32

You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier. Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing. Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #129 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58

Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier. Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing. Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

riotonthebay · « **Reply #130 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:18:02 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58
Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier. Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing. Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.

tjcaustin · « **Reply #131 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:25:39 »

Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:18:02

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36
Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58
Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier. Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing. Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.

Would it have sold for less, though? There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.

riotonthebay · « **Reply #132 on:** Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:28:29 »

Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:25:39

More
Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:18:02
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:15:36
Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:07:58
Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 12 February 2014, 12:05:32
You do know when someone retracts a bid, it doesn't go to the last max bid right? Only to the previous current bid? I'd be more worried about the 1 reps blasting the price to 1600. But then again, I wouldn't max bid a price I wasn't willing to pay.

Right, that was exactly my point here earlier. Whoever won this keyboard was willing the pay the amount that it ended up costing. Despite how the price got there, it was within the winner's allocated budget.

Except that it appears the winner was EverythingIBM and he's now pissed about having to pay $2K for it.

I understand where he's coming from. $2K might have been within his budget for it, but he could be paying significantly less if not for the fake bids. On one hand, yay, he won! On the other, ****, he's paying more than it would've sold for without the fake bids.
Would it have sold for less, though? There last two high bids look more legit than most of the rest, it's still entirely possible that it would have hit $2000 no matter what the guy with 1 feedback did.

I suppose that's why it's "messy". All this is really speculation.

Techno Trousers · « **Reply #133 on:** Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:49:29 »

I hope EverthingIBM will give us the full story when all is said and done.

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