Author Topic: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!  (Read 2158 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline eosph

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 62
  • Location: UK
PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« on: Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:45:35 »
I'm assembling my Nerd60 and I've got the stabalisers on and the plate on, I've soldered everything into place and it all works great apart from the fact that the stabalisers sounds and feel horrible.

They give but they don't make the clicky sound like my poker (plate mounted). I'm fairly certain I've assembled them and put them on right. I can lift them up and the wire moves the other stab. The keys still register as well so I'm fairly certain that's all ok.

Is there anything I can do to make it better? I can't believe that they sound and feel so terrible.

Offline CPTBadAss

  • Woke up like this
  • Posts: 14365
    • Tactile Zine
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:47:23 »

Offline jdcarpe

  • * Curator
  • Posts: 8852
  • Location: Odessa, TX
  • Live long, and prosper.
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 26 May 2015, 16:05:29 »
Yes, clip and lube. It is necessary.
KMAC :: LZ-GH :: WASD CODE :: WASD v2 :: GH60 :: Alps64 :: JD45 :: IBM Model M :: IBM 4704 "Pingmaster"

http://jd40.info :: http://jd45.info


in memoriam

"When I was a kid, I used to take things apart and never put them back together."

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 26 May 2015, 16:10:03 »
Be very liberal with the lube.
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline eosph

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 62
  • Location: UK
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 26 May 2015, 16:42:16 »
Thanks for the advice. I'm afraid it's going to have to wait for a bit as I really don't fancy have to unsolder all the keys again to get the plate off.

I'll have to do it at some point because I've got a dodgy LED and my escape key isn't working.

Offline Oobly

  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 3929
  • Location: Finland
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 27 May 2015, 01:48:36 »
Thanks for the advice. I'm afraid it's going to have to wait for a bit as I really don't fancy have to unsolder all the keys again to get the plate off.

I'll have to do it at some point because I've got a dodgy LED and my escape key isn't working.

You don't need to remove the plate to remove / replace the stabs... Just the switch that sits between them. On some plate designs you don't even need to remove that switch. IMHO, clipped Cherry PCB stabs feel better than stock Costar stabs and are a lot less hassle when swapping caps.
Buying more keycaps,
it really hacks my wallet,
but I must have them.

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 27 May 2015, 10:00:05 »
You don't need to remove the plate to remove / replace the stabs... Just the switch that sits between them. On some plate designs you don't even need to remove that switch. IMHO, clipped Cherry PCB stabs feel better than stock Costar stabs and are a lot less hassle when swapping caps.
You're thinking of Cherry plate mount stabilisers. For PCB ones you have to completely desolder unless you're using a plate that has large cutouts surrounding stabilised keys or you're not using a plate at all.
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline metalliqaz

  • * Maker
  • Posts: 4951
  • Location: the Making Stuff subforum
  • Leopold fanboy
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 27 May 2015, 10:01:47 »
Always check the stabs before soldering everything up.  I learned that the hard way.

Offline eosph

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 62
  • Location: UK
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:14:24 »
The keyboard is usable and I'm getting used to it after a day at work but it's damned annoying.

After thinking about it I'm really not sure what I'm going to do with them, the screws used are getting very worn and I don't have any spares so taking it apart again is going to be a pain.

I'll take another look at the board over the weekend.

Offline Oobly

  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 3929
  • Location: Finland
Re: PCB Stabalisers feel horrible!
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 29 May 2015, 03:50:55 »
You don't need to remove the plate to remove / replace the stabs... Just the switch that sits between them. On some plate designs you don't even need to remove that switch. IMHO, clipped Cherry PCB stabs feel better than stock Costar stabs and are a lot less hassle when swapping caps.
You're thinking of Cherry plate mount stabilisers. For PCB ones you have to completely desolder unless you're using a plate that has large cutouts surrounding stabilised keys or you're not using a plate at all.

Ah yeah, the NerD60 plate does need a full desolder.... yeck. The Hammer 60% aluminium one from imsto doesn't... I speak from experience. It's awkward, but can be done.

The keyboard is usable and I'm getting used to it after a day at work but it's damned annoying.

After thinking about it I'm really not sure what I'm going to do with them, the screws used are getting very worn and I don't have any spares so taking it apart again is going to be a pain.

I'll take another look at the board over the weekend.

Add orings so you don't get to the mushy bottom-out point?

A full desolder is unavoidable it seems. Perhaps you can do some more mods to the switches at the same time (stickers, different springs maybe?) so it doesn't seem like so much work for so little reason.
Buying more keycaps,
it really hacks my wallet,
but I must have them.