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Offline ergonaut

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3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 03:46:05 »
Hi,

I'm looking for a genuine 3-button mouse which also has a scroll wheel. I'm playing Rimworld a lot and I'm sick of having to use the scroll wheel as the middle button. Is there such a device on the market?

I would prefer wired, but would settle with wireless if I'd have to.

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 03:55:29 »
i have never played rimworld, but wouldn't it be easier to remap to one of the mouse 4 or 5 button? assuming your mouse is a semi gamer mouse and not a very cheap 2 buttons + scrollwheel.
and even if Rimworld doesn't allow remapping, tools like AutoHotKeys will allow you to do that anyway. and if you are feeling particularly adventurous the middle button click is a switch next the the wheel, so you could mod your mouse to deport it somewhere else, or the wheel somewhere else, but those mods will get hard.
i do not know of any off the shelf mouse solution for you sadly.
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 04:27:09 »
Thank you Yui.

I do indeed game on an old-school two-button mouse, perhaps it's time to just get a gaming mouse. However, I would really like to have three buttons on top; the gaming mouses I'm familiar with usually have two on top and the others somewhere on the sides, I'm not sure I'd like that. But I haven't really looked much at gaming mouses so far, maybe I should.

Do you have any recommendations in that area?

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 05:15:20 »
It is sad that there are so few mice with a proper middle mouse button ... I've got these two in my collection (that I don't use):

Contour Unimouse ... It's an ergonomic mouse with tilt adjustable from semi-vertical to vertical. There is both a wired and a wireless variant (dongle). The shape is not for everyone. The buttons could be remapped in Windows/Mac software but because I use Linux I haven't tried it.

Not really a scroll wheel:
IBM or Lenovo Scrollpoint Mouse, which has a trackpoint-like joystick instead of scroll wheel .. and there is a small third button in front of it. Needs a driver, otherwise the joystick is too sensitive.
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 November 2021, 05:21:58 by Findecanor »
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 07:01:54 »
Thank you Findecanor.

The Unimouse looks pretty great IMO, albeit a bit pricey (as it's always the case with nice things). But since I tend to switch my mouse hand every now and then, it might not be ideal for me. But still, I do like the concept!

The Lenovo one could also be nice. Do you have to extend your finger to reach the small middle button?

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 09:31:37 »
The Lenovo one could also be nice. Do you have to extend your finger to reach the small middle button?
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 11:17:57 »
Logitech Anywhere mice.
The scroll wheel locks unlocks freewheel, it doesn't work as middle mouse button, middle mouse is a button behind the scroll.
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 16:58:39 »
Thanks Leslieanne, I'll check it out. That button looks a bit small, but I'll have to try it physically to see if it works for me.

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 18 March 2022, 07:19:23 »
I've been thinking about mouse design ... so let me rant:

Lots of mice have a gap between the buttons in front of the scroll wheel. In high-end mice, the wheel sits in a cradle and clicking the wheel moves the entire cradle. Why not extend the cradle into that gap in front of the wheel so that you could press it? Because of leverage, the button would not be too hard either.
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 18 March 2022, 09:21:20 »
Why not extend the cradle into that gap in front of the wheel so that you could press it? Because of leverage, the button would not be too hard either.
Not sure how long or bendy your fingers are or how you hold your mice but my fingers would never be able to reach over the wheel and press said button even if it was extended forward.

Behind the wheel (and a separate button, like the Anywhere) is a better option since you aren't reaching over the top but even that can be a bit uncomfortable depending on how you grip your mouse since it has to be back quite a ways.
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 23 March 2022, 21:07:22 »
This has 3 buttons and a scroll wheel on top:
https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/

I also ran across these, but I guess the supply is going to be very limited:
https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 24 March 2022, 07:26:56 »
I also ran across these, but I guess the supply is going to be very limited:
https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/
I got one, but can't recommend it. It has got an icky rubberized coating. (rubber-like metal)
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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 24 March 2022, 22:17:52 »
Logitech G600 has 3 buttons and a scroll wheel,all can be arbitrarily reprogrammed to anything you like,it also has 12 side buttons for all your macro needs.

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 12 April 2022, 10:43:24 »
It's ugly and it's clunky, but I genuinely love my 3 button Logitech g-600 mouse. I've used them for a decade and I'm on my 2nd. I have a backup in case this one dies, but it's going strong.

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Re: 3-Button mouse with separate scroll wheel?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 06 May 2022, 01:16:06 »
3Dconnexion makes mouse with 3 buttons and a scroll wheel, available wired or wireless
https://3dconnexion.com/uk/cadmouse/