[IC] HoodrowG - Matrix 1.2og replacement PCBs

[HoodrowThrillson]

HoodrowG - Drop in replacement for Matrix 1.2og

NA: Cannonkeys
EU: mykeyboard
Asia: Monokei
OCE: Daily Clack

What is being offered?
- PCB (designed by Ender, QMK and VIA, USB Mini B, ESD protection, layout is same as original PCB but with ISO support added)
- Daughterboard (includes stand offs, jst connectors, light diffuser, light bleed protector)

Fill out IC form so you can give me feedback on what y'all want.
IC FORM HERE

[bisoromi]

brooo

[noricon]

broooo

[CrazyAssMonkey]

Duuuuuuude cmon 

I read matrix 1.2og and got so hyped and now I see its just you flexing. 

That's just evil.

[IMZO]

I'm In!

[Ryanticz]

Definitely in!

[modeseven]

Count me in.

[Mcnos]

yeah

[anatworkaccount]

Very in. Thank you.

[cicada]

Awesome, thank you and to Ender as well! I'm hoping there'll be a similar project but for Matrix 2.0 in the future 

[Kho]

yeah would be great to have some replacements pcbs for the 2.0 in the future!

[hnaeht]

awesome! form submitted! please also consider making the 2.0 pcb replacement as well. Thank you.

[chowbabyloving]

Will it come with a led strip too?

[Emir]

Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!

[Smoff]

Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!

This!
I am in for at least a couple pcbs though!

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[keyberzerker]

I am in if you support ISO!

Pls!

Also as others noted maybe it would be nicer if you offer it with polycarb plate instead of fr4

[yicaoyimu]

Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!

PC plate please!

[Emir]

Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!

This!
I am in for at least a couple pcbs though!

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Pc plate and pcb and I'm in!

PC plate please!

Just fill in the form in regards to pc plate, I think it's the best way to show interest.

[Takata]

Never filled out a ic form so fast.

[Tyson]

I'm in, along with a FR4 plate!

[chowbabyloving]

Never filled out a ic form so fast.

Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?

[Puddsy]

Never filled out a ic form so fast.

Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?

almost positive you can waterjet it but i'm not an expert

[surfmurder]

so LIT broo

[HoodrowThrillson]

I will address some comments and concerns here that I've read on IC form:

Ender dug into the QMK file for 1.2og and found that the lightbar portion utilizes the QMK lighting controls, so should be no issue on getting the light bar portion to work.
In regards to recreating the light bar PCB, I do not have plans on it but if enough people ask for it, I may consider. My reasoning for not wanting to recreate it is because I don't think it breaks or dies if you short the PCB (let me know if that is false).
Plates outside of FR4, I will consider but it is unlikely. I am toying with the idea of releasing plate files so that y'all can get plates made in whatever material you like.
Someone asked about foam, I can look into it.

2.0 PCBs, I don't own a 2.0 (I do want to own one one day), but I don't have plans for that. Now, if someone mails me a PCB and plate, I will be more inclined to get that done.

[pr0ximity]

Never filled out a ic form so fast.

Aren't PC plates more difficult to cut? I believe you can cut FR4 and pom with a laser but PC needs to be cnc'ed?

almost positive you can waterjet it but i'm not an expert

You can indeed

[Honey]

super interested! i realise it's far out but do you have any idea of what colour the PCB & plate will be?

[shansoft]

Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.

For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.

[Takata]

Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.

For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.

H87a does not work in the matrix 1.2og, bottom row spacing is odd on matrix boards in general.

[HoodrowThrillson]

super interested! i realise it's far out but do you have any idea of what colour the PCB & plate will be?

Depends what PCB manu can do and how spicy I'm feeling. FR4 plate will just be black probably.

Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.

For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.

I'd like to retain the original construction of the 1.2 with the use of the separate PCB for the lightbar.

[Zach]

Perfect timing on this, definitely in 

[yicaoyimu]

Isn't 1.2og using the same layout as h87a PCB?
There should be some that already supports it.

For the RGB lights, Tiamo V2 PCB just put like 8 SMD onto the line and works like a charm.

The spacing on Matrix TKLs in general is different from H87a. I measured the spacing between f12 and print screen on my 2.0. It is shorter than H87a.

[yicaoyimu]

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

[HoodrowThrillson]

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.

[LightningXI]

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.

From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpful

[Tyson]

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.

From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpful

Correct, I currently have an issue with mine where one of the LEDs in the strip triggers incorrectly when cycling through the colors.

[HoodrowThrillson]

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.

From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpful

If no LED daughter board then I'm out. Matrix might put up more replacement PCBs on taobao anyway so the only thing I'm interested in is the PC plate.

I will see what Ender can do in regards to the LED daughter board. I wasn't planning on getting those made, since I presumed those don't arrive dead.

From my experience building Matrix stuff, the LED parts are always the most finicky, so replicating these would be really helpful

Correct, I currently have an issue with mine where one of the LEDs in the strip triggers incorrectly when cycling through the colors.

Okay, I didn't know this. I'll definitely get the daughter board replacement created (assuming Ender is okay and willing do so).

If other owners can chime in on other problems they may have had with the PCB, please share here or DM me and I'll try to get those issues resolved with this PCB.

Thank you.

[keyberzerker]

My only problem is that stock PCB does not support ISO!

 

[yicaoyimu]

My only problem is that stock PCB does not support ISO!

 

The white QMK PCBs do but I get what you are saying.

[staunch-hexagram]

do you happen to know if the 1.2 PCB would be compatible with Matrix's other TKLs? it's kinda hard to find much info on the specs for each one to compare

[HoodrowThrillson]

do you happen to know if the 1.2 PCB would be compatible with Matrix's other TKLs? it's kinda hard to find much info on the specs for each one to compare

I do not, sorry.

But if someone does know, please feel free to chime in.

[switchnollie]

Would definitely want one or two extras for mine

[Puddsy]

do you happen to know if the 1.2 PCB would be compatible with Matrix's other TKLs? it's kinda hard to find much info on the specs for each one to compare

I do not, sorry.

But if someone does know, please feel free to chime in.

would have to get the calipers out but afiak each series of matrix board uses a different footprint

[rope]

I'd buy 1 or 2 for mine for sure!

[juaninamilli]

Are you going to make this a thin boi pcb like the original? I believe it’s 1.2mm but I didn’t put a caliper to it. A spacer for the stabs would be cool. One like Hiney includes for his thin pcbs. Use of the original led daughter board would be nice.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Are you going to make this a thin boi pcb like the original? I believe it’s 1.2mm but I didn’t put a caliper to it. A spacer for the stabs would be cool. One like Hiney includes for his thin pcbs. Use of the original led daughter board would be nice.

I don't have my 1.2og in hand yet (stuck in Korea apparently) but if it's 1.2mm then this replacement will also be 1.2mm. Spacers, I can have those done.

LED Daughterboard (semiupdate) - I talked to Ender and he said we can get a daughterboard made but he suggested instead of using what the original LEDs to use SMD LEDs. Both replacement daughterboard and original daughterboard should work with the PCB. Any thoughts on this?

[yicaoyimu]

Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?

I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.

[phat schlong]

Definitely in for one. Lord knows when the og pcbs will die on me

[juaninamilli]

Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?

I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.

The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Is it a terrible idea to eliminate the daughter board and just have those LEDs on the main board? I guess that puts too much component around that area above arrows where the controller normally sits?

I'm asking because LZ Iron has a similar ring LED as the one on Matrix 2.0 and LZ managed to put it on the main board.

The problem I see is that the current daughter board is elevated. This allows the rubber surround on it to meet the top case and minimize light bleed. If the leds were right on the pcb, a solution would have to be created to fill that space between pcb and case.

This was what I was thinking.

I won't be able to make comments since 1) I've never built a 1.2og 2) mine is still stuck in Korea

Expect updates when:
1) 1.2og is in my hand
2) PCB and plate is shipped out to ender
3) PCB and daughter board proto ordered
4) PCB and daughter board proto in hand
5) When it's confirmed working (if it doesn't work, go to step 3)
6) Ready to GB

[BlueeQ]

Definitely in for this! My PCB is so inconsistent a lot of the time and it really bothers me. Very much wanting this!