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Title: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 16:07:43
GMK Phantom

GB is live: https://briano1905.github.io/gmk-phantom/ (https://briano1905.github.io/gmk-phantom/)

Intro
Made from injection molded double-shot ABS plastic, GMK Phantom is a keycap set designed for mechanical keyboards. It uses the classic Cherry profile and will be compatible with all cherry mx switches or cherry mx switch clones
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Kits
Base
This kit will cover most keyboard layouts including but not limited to: ANSI, ISO, HHKB, winkeyless, 65%, 75%, 96-key, 1800 and many more
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ250$145CAD$190€135$168
MOQ500$130CAD$175€125$153
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40s
Added support for many tiny keyboards like the: planck, preonic, minivan, JD40
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ150$39CAD$55€36$42
MOQ250$34CAD$50€34$36
MOQ500$31CAD$45€31$36
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Ergoplanck
Perfect for an ergodox or planck if you prefer blank modifier keys
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ150$48CAD$65€45$52
MOQ250$39CAD$52€40$42
MOQ500$34CAD$48€38$42
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Spacebar
For special keyboads with unique spacebar layouts. the small bars are: 1.75, 2.25, 2.75
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ100$21CAD$30€21$22
MOQ150$19CAD$28€20$20
MOQ250$17CAD$25€19$20
MOQ500$15CAD$22€17$20
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Euro
For very special keyboards with european layouts
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ150$52CAD$70€49$56
MOQ250$46CAD$63€46$50
MOQ500$42CAD$57€42$50
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Colevrak
For the most special keyboards with dvorak or colemak layout
Pricing             US            CA                    EU                ASIA/AU/NZ
MOQ150$45CAD$62€41$49
MOQ250$40CAD$55€37$44
MOQ500$37CAD$50€35$44
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*novelties by /u/AkatoShi

Color Chips
This might change after i receive colour sample from GMK but this are the colour we envision
PANTONE 2695 C https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/2695-C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/2695-C)
PANTONE 7403 C https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7403-C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7403-C)
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Render Album
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*renders by janglad

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RAMA M60-A: https://ramaworks.store/products/m60-a (https://ramaworks.store/products/m60-a)

Shipping
November 2018

When?
GB will open from May 1st 2018 until May 31st 2018

Where?
US - https://donutcables.com/product/gmk-phantom/ (http://donutcables.com/)
CA - https://mechkeys.ca/products/gmk-phantom/ (https://mechkeys.ca/)
EU - https://mykeyboard.eu/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/)
ASIA/AU/NZ - https://en.zfrontier.com/ (https://en.zfrontier.com/)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 03 March 2018, 17:03:11
Really like the look of this. Have you looked into if that base color is possible in ABS?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sat, 03 March 2018, 17:34:11
More purple... ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: nickaster1 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 17:38:23
Classy. I dig


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:13:12
Really like the look of this. Have you looked into if that base color is possible in ABS?
it will need to use pantone custom color. i talked to gmk and they say they can provide color sample when there's a definite order
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: dyrdevil on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:25:41
I dig this a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: lovetree on Sun, 04 March 2018, 03:10:35
If this custom color could be done in real, I will definitely in.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Vulcan on Sun, 04 March 2018, 06:14:49
love the color on this, are you planning to make the Novelty?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: kmba on Sun, 04 March 2018, 09:47:13
Glad this just still a thing. Not a fan of purple but for some reason I I think this is awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: nu_types on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:04:43
I really love the regal look of this set. Very classy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: poolside on Sun, 04 March 2018, 15:11:24
Yes!  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 17:05:44
Looking forward to this, monotone sets are always neat and this color combo is exceptional.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 March 2018, 17:07:55
Also onboard! Really love the rich dark purple
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: x86ect on Sun, 04 March 2018, 18:32:29
So much yes!
Any chance for a beige spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sun, 04 March 2018, 20:12:21
So much yes!
Any chance for a beige spacebar?
yes will make a spacebar kit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 04 March 2018, 21:55:52
You brought me out of hiding. Would buy for the custom color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 05 March 2018, 09:08:12
I'm in for this  :thumb:. Btw, can you show some pics with more light? It looks quite dark in the render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:43:20
I'm in for this  :thumb:. Btw, can you show some pics with more light? It looks quite dark in the render.

In fact the dark purple won't be that dark (it is slightly lighter) because there isn't a Pantone like that. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 05:32:21
update 3/6/2018:

IC Result
Quote
What modifier legends do you want?
35.5% (majority) chose icon+text and 24.5% don't care
Quote
Do you want the beige accent keys?
86.5% says 'YES'

Color Chips
PANTONE 2695 C
PANTONE 7403 C
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:48:20
Just tried the color combinations you provided. I have to say this definitely looks awesome.
Will this only available in monotone? Any chance the modifier keys have a slightly different purple color?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:51:42
love the color on this, are you planning to make the Novelty?
yes i got someone working on the novelties please share your ideas if you have one
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:54:08
Just tried the color combinations you provided. I have to say this definitely looks awesome.
Will this only available in monotone? Any chance the modifier keys have a slightly different purple color?
ive tried multiple times but monotone just seems to work best for this set

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 07 March 2018, 12:56:46
I see a lot of demand for Beige accents? Anybody got a render of how it would look like? I can't quite picture it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:35:24
I see a lot of demand for Beige accents? Anybody got a render of how it would look like? I can't quite picture it.
Do you mean like the renders in the OP? Those have beige accents. Not sure what you’re asking for unless you mean beige mods instead of accents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:33:23
Seems pretty solid, those pantones look good, on my monitors at least.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: MungFuSensei on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:39:57
Please at 2 r3 1u blanks to the ergodox kit to make it a proper ergoplanck kit. Not necessary, but a nice addition, would be 4 r4c keys, 2 of each color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:46:25
Please at 2 r3 1u blanks to the ergodox kit to make it a proper ergoplanck kit. Not necessary, but a nice addition, would be 4 r4c keys, 2 of each color.
thanks for the input. the base + 40s kit will cover a planck but i understand some might prefer blanks. we'll definitely look into it

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: MungFuSensei on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:57:52
thanks for the input. the base + 40s kit will cover a planck but i understand some might prefer blanks. we'll definitely look into it

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I ask because the Iris is getting real popular, and that would make base + ergo cover it out of the box. Also, many many ortho users prefer blank mods as they change their layout, making legends useless. It's just 2 blank keys, so it's barely a drop in the bucket price wise, and it's pretty standard for all GMK ergo kits since GMK Carbon. The r4c stuff would just be really nice to have, but it's not a deal breaker.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 00:35:43
thanks for the input. the base + 40s kit will cover a planck but i understand some might prefer blanks. we'll definitely look into it

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I ask because the Iris is getting real popular, and that would make base + ergo cover it out of the box. Also, many many ortho users prefer blank mods as they change their layout, making legends useless. It's just 2 blank keys, so it's barely a drop in the bucket price wise, and it's pretty standard for all GMK ergo kits since GMK Carbon. The r4c stuff would just be really nice to have, but it's not a deal breaker.

updated! let me know what you think
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: MungFuSensei on Thu, 08 March 2018, 01:05:18
updated! let me know what you think

 :thumb: Perfection
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Data on Thu, 08 March 2018, 07:55:54
Can this finally be a thing now?   :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Signature on Thu, 08 March 2018, 08:14:48
Really like this set! Would there be a possibility to add a white mod-pack? :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: saucybulgogi on Thu, 08 March 2018, 09:22:34
Looks gorgeous dude! I’d love this for my Tokyo60 or the Modern0110


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Koobaczech on Thu, 08 March 2018, 09:41:25
That diamond novelty has me won over!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: bminhz on Thu, 08 March 2018, 10:54:17
really into this colorway, can't wait for GB to start!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:25:52
this set is looking rad, finally something that will look good on a gold case!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cfiggis on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:49:48
this set is looking rad, finally something that will look good on a gold case!

Yeah, would look great on a gold case.

I'm working on creating a custom dark green case myself, and with this set, I'd have a New Orleans Mardi Gras vibe going that I really dig. Especially with the Fleur de Lis novelty...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:54:35
Definitely digging the regal look. Would look exceptional in a black/dark grey case.

However one concern:

I checked that pantone 7500 C beige color of the accents on pantone website, it seems to me that the color shown in the website is ‘less yellow’ and closer to sand color, rather than the ‘gold-ish’ beige look that (I believe you are going for) is in your render pictures.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: voodoo6k on Thu, 08 March 2018, 12:20:59
it will need to use pantone custom color. i talked to gmk and they say they can provide color sample when there's a definite order

Hopefully you can get some samples!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: renatalidiane on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:59:21
 :eek: :eek:

Perfect !!! I really liked that ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:21:51
What’s your rough timeframe on this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:24:12
What’s your rough timeframe on this?
we're just waiting for a quote from GMK. after that well be preparing for the GB stages

so to answer your question: Soon.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: mudcakehoney on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:25:34
What’s your rough timeframe on this?
we're just waiting for a quote from GMK. after that well be preparing for the GB stages

so to answer your question: Soon.

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:thumb: thanks for the quick reply, I love a quick IC > GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: mago on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:26:04
Loving the novelties, will definitely be getting a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:46:41
Do GMK The Shadow next
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: yqliang on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:58:51
Nice purple + gold! digging it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Felion on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:33:10
Im in for 2 base+norde kits :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 09 March 2018, 00:05:04
I dunno what it is, but that color purple just makes me want to touch it so much. I'm actually a little concerned this might replace plum as my favorite set when it drops :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:25:43
Any chance of 1.25u novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 10 March 2018, 00:43:31
Wow i really like the novelties
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:28:34
update 3/10/2018
- kit refined and added novelties
- updated pantone color for the yellowish beige
- vendors announced
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 10 March 2018, 04:46:14
Hey mate just want to say I appreciate the change in the beige color pantone card :) Now it looks awesome and I’ll definitely get one when the GB opens!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Sat, 10 March 2018, 06:06:40
Yup agreed that the more yellow pantone fits better with the theme and look of the set. The novelties are a bit plain, but it fits very nicely with what you are trying to do. Can't wait for this to hit GB, but hopefully not too soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 06:10:42
Yup agreed that the more yellow pantone fits better with the theme and look of the set. The novelties are a bit plain, but it fits very nicely with what you are trying to do. Can't wait for this to hit GB, but hopefully not too soon.

yes a lot of gmk sets in the works lately we will definitely keep that in mind when deciding the dates for the GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 10 March 2018, 08:46:36
Please make the GB happen asap  ;)

Btw, any chance for 1.5 novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 10 March 2018, 10:10:15
40s kit appears to have 2u and 2.25u spacebars. Any chance to add 2.75u as well since it’s a common 40% space bar size?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:42:27
Hey I was wondering, do you think you could add a mask novelty, like the one that The Phantom wears?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: RSC on Sat, 10 March 2018, 12:30:35
That's what I was gonna say, you should add two novelties: one for the masked face and another for the ring he has in the comics.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 10 March 2018, 13:49:44
That's what I was gonna say, you should add two novelties: one for the masked face and another for the ring he has in the comics.

The set wasn't inspired from "The Phantom"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:51:16
That's what I was gonna say, you should add two novelties: one for the masked face and another for the ring he has in the comics.

The set wasn't inspired from "The Phantom"

Fair enough, but it would be cool to have ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: x86ect on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:59:24
So much yes!
Any chance for a beige spacebar?
yes will make a spacebar kit
Any chance for a beige spacebar? :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 15:03:17
So much yes!
Any chance for a beige spacebar?
yes will make a spacebar kit
Any chance for a beige spacebar? :D
sorry adding another spacebar would increase the base kit price by quite a bit. but if theres enough interest for it that could be possible

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: floristfran on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:07:27
v noice would buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:05:42
guys,
this base kit is looking pretty huge with all the novelties and accents which drive the price up
one option is to make a separate kit for novelties and accents but before i do that i want to hear your guys opinion first. what do you think? yay or nay
yay for seperate kit
nay for huge base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:27:11
guys,
this base kit is looking pretty huge with all the novelties and accents which drive the price up
one option is to make a separate kit for novelties and accents but before i do that i want to hear your guys opinion first. what do you think? yay or nay
yay for seperate kit
nay for huge base kit

nay, and for nay i mean don't add additional suggestions like "please add key X", just be more similar as possible to 9009, Taro, Nautilus for kit, even if this implies to remove some added keys (maybe) 

Keep the accents in the base kit and if the novelties are just 4 include the novelties as well.

Don't add more spacebars tho, if you want to add, spacebar kit is the way to go
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:09:28
guys,
this base kit is looking pretty huge with all the novelties and accents which drive the price up
one option is to make a separate kit for novelties and accents but before i do that i want to hear your guys opinion first. what do you think? yay or nay
yay for seperate kit
nay for huge base kit

nay, and for nay i mean don't add additional suggestions like "please add key X", just be more similar as possible to 9009, Taro, Nautilus for kit, even if this implies to remove some added keys (maybe) 

Keep the accents in the base kit and if the novelties are just 4 include the novelties as well.

Don't add more spacebars tho, if you want to add, spacebar kit is the way to go

Precisely what I wanted to say. +1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: dyrdevil on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:36:02
I like the base + accents in the same kit.  Don't have a personal preference for novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:33:14
I think the base kit is good as it is right now. It’s only a little larger than the Nautilus base kit. One question though, is Phantom’s 6u spacebar going to be centered or off-centered?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180313/61e5591a55e01feb4746314a9b4296e8.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:58:32
Base kit looks pretty mint imo. If 6u spacebar and accents/novelties were kicked to their own kit it wouldn't bother me, especially where you'll need both types of 6u spacebar to make everyone happy anyhow. Maybe a kit of novelties and both 6u spacebars plus the 2.75u/2.25u/1.75u split spacebars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:19:08
How will the pricing compare to the Nautilus or Laser kits? I thought the Laser base kit was awesome, lots of keys, not a lot of novelties, but competitively priced at $140 before before any MOQ drops (final price was $110):

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-gmk-laser-custom-keycap-set/Cyberdeck_20171102231409.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=2

If the base kit with all extras is going to start at $175-200, that might price a lot of people out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:04:06
I think the base kit is good as it is right now. It’s only a little larger than the Nautilus base kit. One question though, is Phantom’s 6u spacebar going to be centered or off-centered?

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I would honestly put 6u centered+6u offcentered + split spacebars in another kit (spacebars kits)  and just keep 6.25+7u  in the base.
2 spacebars (6u x2) to make happy few people happy is no bueno, especially when you have to reach a 250 moq for the base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:07:03
How will the pricing compare to the Nautilus or Laser kits? I thought the Laser base kit was awesome, lots of keys, not a lot of novelties, but competitively priced at $140 before before any MOQ drops (final price was $110):

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-gmk-laser-custom-keycap-set/Cyberdeck_20171102231409.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=2

If the base kit with all extras is going to start at $175-200, that might price a lot of people out.

Depends what you mean for "base kit with all extras", if you mean every kit offered, yes ofc this will be on that price range or higher.
What you meant actually?
Title: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:10:20
Any chance at all that 60% kit is offered rather than the full base kit? I understand that most GMK keysets are offered in base kit + child kits, but more and more keysets offer the option of buying only 60% kit (with 1u arrow keys + 2u left shift as well). Some even went the extra mile of separating alphas and modifiers into different kits. I think it creates a more affordable options for 60% owners who does not want to waste extra keycaps sitting around and paying more for those as well as the flexibility of customizing their kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:11:51
Any chance at all that 60% kit is offered rather than the full base kit? I understand that most GMK keysets are offered in base kit + child kits, but more and more keysets offer the option of buying only 60% kit (with 1u arrow keys + 2u left shift as well). Some even went the extra mile of separating alphas and modifiers into separate kits. I think it creates a more afforable options for 60% owners who does not want to waste extra keycaps sitting around and paying more for those as well as flexibility of customizing their kits.


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I don't think this is possible when outside massdrop.   If they keep the 250moq of custom colors, that would make the extra outside the 60% not happen probably. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:44:47
Any chance at all that 60% kit is offered rather than the full base kit? I understand that most GMK keysets are offered in base kit + child kits, but more and more keysets offer the option of buying only 60% kit (with 1u arrow keys + 2u left shift as well). Some even went the extra mile of separating alphas and modifiers into separate kits. I think it creates a more afforable options for 60% owners who does not want to waste extra keycaps sitting around and paying more for those as well as flexibility of customizing their kits.


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I don't think this is possible when outside massdrop.   If they keep the 250moq of custom colors, that would make the extra outside the 60% not happen probably.

Addon kits should only have 100 moq. Maybe 150 for custom color. But shouldn’t be 250.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 14 March 2018, 05:48:17
Any chance at all that 60% kit is offered rather than the full base kit? I understand that most GMK keysets are offered in base kit + child kits, but more and more keysets offer the option of buying only 60% kit (with 1u arrow keys + 2u left shift as well). Some even went the extra mile of separating alphas and modifiers into separate kits. I think it creates a more afforable options for 60% owners who does not want to waste extra keycaps sitting around and paying more for those as well as flexibility of customizing their kits.


I don't think this is possible when outside massdrop.   If they keep the 250moq of custom colors, that would make the extra outside the 60% not happen probably.

Addon kits should only have 100 moq. Maybe 150 for custom color. But shouldn’t be 250.

If you split the base kit like he asked, 60%+all the other layouts, that's basically splitting it in half more or less and a 80keys kit is not addon kit... Maybe they can drop it from 250 to 200, but the moq won't be 100 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Wed, 14 March 2018, 06:02:11
Any chance at all that 60% kit is offered rather than the full base kit? I understand that most GMK keysets are offered in base kit + child kits, but more and more keysets offer the option of buying only 60% kit (with 1u arrow keys + 2u left shift as well). Some even went the extra mile of separating alphas and modifiers into separate kits. I think it creates a more afforable options for 60% owners who does not want to waste extra keycaps sitting around and paying more for those as well as flexibility of customizing their kits.


I don't think this is possible when outside massdrop.   If they keep the 250moq of custom colors, that would make the extra outside the 60% not happen probably.

Addon kits should only have 100 moq. Maybe 150 for custom color. But shouldn’t be 250.

If you split the base kit like he asked, 60%+all the other layouts, that's basically splitting it in half more or less and a 80keys kit is not addon kit... Maybe they can drop it from 250 to 200, but the moq won't be 100

I’m not saying that we should discard the base kit entirely, but just having an additional option of buying 60% kit (where base kit is still being offered). Will this be kind of moot and make it even harder to reach MOQ of each of the base/60% kit?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 14 March 2018, 07:15:40

I’m not saying that we should discard the base kit entirely, but just having an additional option of buying 60% kit (where base kit is still being offered). Will this be kind of moot and make it even harder to reach MOQ of each of the base/60% kit?


That's the same problem mate, many will buy the 60% kit and the base kit will have less orders, the keys of the base kit which are not in the 60% will most likely not happen in this way. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Wed, 14 March 2018, 07:27:56

I’m not saying that we should discard the base kit entirely, but just having an additional option of buying 60% kit (where base kit is still being offered). Will this be kind of moot and make it even harder to reach MOQ of each of the base/60% kit?


That's the same problem mate, many will buy the 60% kit and the base kit will have less orders, the keys of the base kit which are not in the 60% will most likely not happen in this way.

Fair enough. I’ll just wait and see how this develops then.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 14 March 2018, 10:14:24
Absolutely no chance of a 60% kit, that would only make it harder than it already is for the base kit to reach moq, especially with the fees from splitting off kits making the price for the base even higher.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:41:21
Depends what you mean for "base kit with all extras", if you mean every kit offered, yes ofc this will be on that price range or higher.
What you meant actually?

Sorry meant just the base kit. But if the icons / extra space bars are added to the base kit which causes it to creep up in price.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 22 March 2018, 07:04:22
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Definitely in  :o :o
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:30:06
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Definitely in  :o :o

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M-60 DARK PURPLE THX
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: RavenPanther on Thu, 22 March 2018, 23:56:55
Color me purple - er, I mean interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: Vulcan on Sun, 25 March 2018, 03:53:13
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Im also in  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: 00 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 03:55:19
This shade of purple is very reminiscent of that of Cadbury chocolate  :-X
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Sun, 25 March 2018, 05:07:54
With regards to the 2 Fleur De Lis (1u) and 2 Crown (1.25u) novelties in R4 included in the base kit, is it possible to have different novelties logo (like the one you included in R1?

If this would raise costs, then maybe make 1 Fleur De Lis cap to be 1.25u and 1 Crown cap to be 1u so that people with non-standard bottom row could have varieties and not just fixed to only have Crowns for 1.25u key or Fleur De Lis for 1u key.

Thanks a bunch!

TLDR: Instead of 2x 1.25u Crown novelties and 2x 1u Fleur De Lis novelties on R4, can we have 1x 1.25u and 1x 1u of each design?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 25 March 2018, 20:27:25
With regards to the 2 Fleur De Lis (1u) and 2 Crown (1.25u) novelties in R4 included in the base kit, is it possible to have different novelties logo (like the one you included in R1?

If this would raise costs, then maybe make 1 Fleur De Lis cap to be 1.25u and 1 Crown cap to be 1u so that people with non-standard bottom row could have varieties and not just fixed to only have Crowns for 1.25u key or Fleur De Lis for 1u key.

Thanks a bunch!

TLDR: Instead of 2x 1.25u Crown novelties and 2x 1u Fleur De Lis novelties on R4, can we have 1x 1.25u and 1x 1u of each design?

Spreading each design between different sized caps will mean a new molds will be needed for each of then for each new size cap, increasing cost another .6€ per set per mold.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: hervuli on Sun, 25 March 2018, 20:40:30
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Definitely in  :o :o

I'm just posting in this in every IC for a GMK set I guess :)

That R2 1.5u backspace in the render isn't included in the base kit as far as I can tell (and I assume the R2 backspace in the 40s kit is 2u?). For the sake of HHKB compatibility, would be really great if it could be included in this set, as it is in e.g. Nautilus, 9009 etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: briano1905 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:12:51
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Definitely in  :o :o

I'm just posting in this in every IC for a GMK set I guess :)

That R2 1.5u backspace in the render isn't included in the base kit as far as I can tell (and I assume the R2 backspace in the 40s kit is 2u?). For the sake of HHKB compatibility, would be really great if it could be included in this set, as it is in e.g. Nautilus, 9009 etc.

there is 1.5u 'delete' for that hhkb backspace

the renders are only to get an idea on how the set will look like. for the most updated kits please see the Kits section and not the render as the kits tends to change

thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: hervuli on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:20:43
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Definitely in  :o :o

I'm just posting in this in every IC for a GMK set I guess :)

That R2 1.5u backspace in the render isn't included in the base kit as far as I can tell (and I assume the R2 backspace in the 40s kit is 2u?). For the sake of HHKB compatibility, would be really great if it could be included in this set, as it is in e.g. Nautilus, 9009 etc.

there is 1.5u 'delete' for that hhkb backspace

the renders are only to get an idea on how the set will look like. for the most updated kits please see the Kits section and not the render as the kits tends to change

thank you

Cool, good to know. As stated in other threads, Delete is really not interchangeable with Backspace, especially in a split backspace layout where the top right 1u key is used as Del and the 1.5u key directly below it is Backspace.

Many modern GMK sets include a R2 1.5u backspace, there is a text only mold and at least two icon molds (the simple left-facing arrow and the clunky, boxier polygon). I love this colorway and it would be really great to have proper HHKB compatibility.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom
Post by: cldskt on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:02:05
With regards to the 2 Fleur De Lis (1u) and 2 Crown (1.25u) novelties in R4 included in the base kit, is it possible to have different novelties logo (like the one you included in R1?

If this would raise costs, then maybe make 1 Fleur De Lis cap to be 1.25u and 1 Crown cap to be 1u so that people with non-standard bottom row could have varieties and not just fixed to only have Crowns for 1.25u key or Fleur De Lis for 1u key.

Thanks a bunch!

TLDR: Instead of 2x 1.25u Crown novelties and 2x 1u Fleur De Lis novelties on R4, can we have 1x 1.25u and 1x 1u of each design?

Spreading each design between different sized caps will mean a new molds will be needed for each of then for each new size cap, increasing cost another .6€ per set per mold.

Ah got it. That's a bummer. The base kit is looking pretty huge as is so I expect the price would already be rather high, hence not intending to increase the cost even more might be a good idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 26 March 2018, 11:56:49
I'm gonna go ahead and complain about the Euro kit since that annoys me. For some reason it's become standard to use a prebuilt int kit with a bunch of dupes in it; 8/42 keys are dupes last I looked, with more that could possibly be condensed with some creativity.

(https://i.imgur.com/Mq5gdai.png) (https://i.imgur.com/Mq5gdai.png)
These are my proposed adjustments. Red X is keys that were cut, green box is what the red Xs were replaced with, yellow dot is more possible condensation with some liberty taken.

Right now my changes are removing 8 keys from the kit reducing it from 42 to 34, which could mean a noticeable price difference at MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 26 March 2018, 12:36:00
proper HHKB compatibility.
It already has proper HHKB compatibility. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180326/3b2782062e7cb7db86589af46ff7784f.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: hervuli on Mon, 26 March 2018, 12:58:27
proper HHKB compatibility.
It already has proper HHKB compatibility.
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Yeah, that was a mis-type of sorts. I always forget that my HHKB layout is not the actual HHKB layout haha

Still, I know there are plenty of ppl that put Backspace in that spot :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:12:31
My 2¢ on the split backspace, to the best of my knowledge it's been pretty standard to have the 1.5u key for it be backspace in most recent GMK sets, tho I may be mistaken. Some use just the big arrow interchangeably, but I personally much prefer the look of Backspace on the key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: BserLarry on Sat, 31 March 2018, 04:41:27
I think the set lack contrast making it too dark as a whole.
The purple is a novel idea,
I would recommend testing yellow alpha with purple font or at least adding in a yellow space bar or more yellow mods be it in the F row or something like that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:29:28
I would recommend testing yellow alpha with purple font

No

or at least adding in a yellow space bar or more yellow mods be it in the F row or something like that


I agree on just yellow spacebars, no f-row yellow since this is a thing when the set has alphas/modifiers of a different color. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:30:24
I would recommend testing yellow alpha with purple font

No 
Not another Plum please


or at least adding in a yellow space bar or more yellow mods be it in the F row or something like that


I agree on just yellow spacebars, no f-row yellow since this is a thing when the set has alphas/modifiers of a different color.
Title: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:32:09
I think the set lack contrast making it too dark as a whole.
The purple is a novel idea,
I would recommend testing yellow alpha with purple font or at least adding in a yellow space bar or more yellow mods be it in the F row or something like that

To me, the main attraction of this set lies with its monotone keycaps, with the exception of the Enter, Esc, and Arrow keys. Changing it to have a colored mods or fn rows will just make this set like any other sets out there with different colors.

As for the colored spacebar, I think it was mentioned before that adding it will increase costs, with the unspoken agreement that colored spacebars will be offered in a separate child kit instead.

Plus, I think the price for the base kit would not be cheap, seeing how huge the current base kit is. Creating a separate child kit to accomodate more colors will make more sense. Even so, there is always a challenge of meeting MOQ for each kit (100 for child kit iirc).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:53:21
I think the set lack contrast making it too dark as a whole.
The purple is a novel idea,
I would recommend testing yellow alpha with purple font or at least adding in a yellow space bar or more yellow mods be it in the F row or something like that

To me, the main attraction of this set lies with its monotone keycaps, with the exception of the Enter, Esc, and Arrow keys. Changing it to have a colored mods or fn rows will just make this set like any other sets out there with different colors.

As for the colored spacebar, I think it was mentioned before that adding it will increase costs, with the unspoken agreement that colored spacebars will be offered in a separate child kit instead.

Plus, I think the price for the base kit would not be cheap, seeing how huge the current base kit is. Creating a separate child kit to accomodate more colors will make more sense. Even so, there is always a challenge of meeting MOQ for each kit (100 for child kit iirc).

I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:56:33


I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me

Base kit needs to have alpha colored spacebars, not accent colored. The only exception being having both alpha and accent colored 6.25u and 7u spacebars in the base kit with alpha/accent 6u spacebars in the spacebars kit.

Additionally, the whole point of this set is the purple monotone, so reversing the alphas is not the way to go.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 15:24:27


I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me

Base kit needs to have alpha colored spacebars, not accent colored. The only exception being having both alpha and accent colored 6.25u and 7u spacebars in the base kit with alpha/accent 6u spacebars in the spacebars kit.

Additionally, the whole point of this set is the purple monotone, so reversing the alphas is not the way to go.


ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't, so the whole thing "base kit must have blabla" doesn't stand.  I proposed  yellow spacebars instead of adding them, which would increase the price too much (still i wouldn't mind, both are fine to me). 

On monotone it doesn't look bad and the spacebar is still one of the keycaps that is usually accented (in other kits like spacebars-kit, which this set will not have) so the answer should be "yes i like"/"no i don't like", not "it can't be like that because others never did it", simply for the fact that this set is different.   
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 16:38:40


I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me

Base kit needs to have alpha colored spacebars, not accent colored. The only exception being having both alpha and accent colored 6.25u and 7u spacebars in the base kit with alpha/accent 6u spacebars in the spacebars kit.

Additionally, the whole point of this set is the purple monotone, so reversing the alphas is not the way to go.


ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't...

This is not even a little bit true. GMK Terminal R1, no accent space bar in base. GMK Stormtrooper, no accent spacebar. GMK Pristine, no accent spacebar. GMK Demonic, No accent spacebar. GMK Blue on Black, no accent spacebar in base. GMK Monkey,  no accent spacebar. GMK Skidata+,  no accent spacebar in base.

What monotone set has the accent spacebars in the base? As far as I am aware no one has ever said no spacebar kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 16:51:56
space news:
i have the space kits ready

the reason its not up on the thread yet is because gmk is still working on the quotes and i want to know if its actually worth it to split the kits.

about yellow space bar, how many are interested in them? tbh i dont think it will look that great but please let me know if you want to see yellow space

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 17:03:07


I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me

Base kit needs to have alpha colored spacebars, not accent colored. The only exception being having both alpha and accent colored 6.25u and 7u spacebars in the base kit with alpha/accent 6u spacebars in the spacebars kit.

Additionally, the whole point of this set is the purple monotone, so reversing the alphas is not the way to go.


ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't...

This is not even a little bit true. GMK Terminal R1, no accent space bar in base. GMK Stormtrooper, no accent spacebar. GMK Pristine, no accent spacebar. GMK Demonic, No accent spacebar. GMK Blue on Black, no accent spacebar in base. GMK Monkey,  no accent spacebar. GMK Skidata+,  no accent spacebar in base.

What monotone set has the accent spacebars in the base? As far as I am aware no one has ever said no spacebar kit.

At least read please before making a list "ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't...
I never said that the spacebar accented was in the base set lol. 

And later you say:

GMK Terminal R1 (which has a spacebar kit accented as i wrote)
GMK Blue on Black  (which has a spacebar kit accented as i wrote)
GMK Pristine  (which doesn't even have accents)
GMK Stormtropper (which doesn't even have accents lol)
GMK Demonic (which is a small set, not even iso and many other caps, ofc doesn't have all the accents)   
GMK Monkey (which is a really really small set with as far as i remember no accents offered in gb) 
GMK Skidata+ (which has orange accents in spacebar kit as i wrote) 


Now, if you wanted to prove that my "every" is wrong, it's just hilarious, and even tho your list is wrong. 
 
If you didn't get it, my point is that most of the monotone that are big enough have usually  the spacebar kit which will have these accented spacebars. 
Now, IF this will not have a spacebar kit with Phantom so no accented spacebars, my suggestion was to have directly the accented spacebars in the base kit instead of the base spacebars, which is not usual to do yeah, but it isn't either usual to not add a spacebar kit with accented spacebars in such big sets with many kits, so Phantom is kinda unique on his path, so why we can't do something different?

Hope this cleared things up, didn't meant to be aggressive but the list was a bit unnecessary. Maybe i was unclear in the previous post or maybe you just fast-read it, peace



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: donut_sauce on Sat, 31 March 2018, 17:07:50
space news:
i have the space kits ready

the reason its not up on the thread yet is because gmk is still working on the quotes and i want to know if its actually worth it to split the kits.

about yellow space bar, how many are interested in them? tbh i dont think it will look that great but please let me know if you want to see yellow space

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I’m personally not interested in a yellow spacebar but that’s just me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 17:18:39
space news:
i have the space kits ready

the reason its not up on the thread yet is because gmk is still working on the quotes and i want to know if its actually worth it to split the kits.

about yellow space bar, how many are interested in them? tbh i dont think it will look that great but please let me know if you want to see yellow space

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I’m personally not interested in a yellow spacebar but that’s just me.

That should be an answer to a suggestion :D

I personally feel like you, i do prefer purple spacebar over yellow, but just SLIGHTLY so whatever will be i don't care. I added this suggestion mostly because that guy i was answering before it wasn't the only one wanting yellow/beige spacebars so that was the only solution that came in mind to avoid adding more keys in base and without adding a new kit which i'm not sure OP wants.   


Since it will be hard to agree on what color on the spacebars and since usually spacebar kits happens, the only question at this point is:

HOW MANY WOULD ENTER FOR A SPACEBAR KIT WITH YELLOW SPACEBARS AND EXTRA SPACEBARS? (e.g. split too?)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 17:19:25
At least read please before making a list "ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't...
I never said that the spacebar accented was in the base set lol. 

And later you say:

GMK Terminal R1 (which has a spacebar kit accented as i wrote)
GMK Blue on Black  (which has a spacebar kit accented as i wrote)
GMK Pristine  (which doesn't even have accents)
GMK Stormtropper (which doesn't even have accents lol)
GMK Demonic (which is a small set, not even iso and many other caps, ofc doesn't have all the accents)   
GMK Monkey (which is a really really small set with as far as i remember no accents offered in gb) 
GMK Skidata+ (which has orange accents in spacebar kit as i wrote) 


Now, if you wanted to prove that my "every" is wrong, it's just hilarious, and even tho your list is wrong. 
 
If you didn't get it, my point is that most of the monotone that are big enough have usually  the spacebar kit which will have these accented spacebars. 
Now, IF this will not have a spacebar kit with Phantom so no accented spacebars, my suggestion was to have directly the accented spacebars in the base kit instead of the base spacebars, which is not usual to do yeah, but it isn't either usual to not add a spacebar kit with accented spacebars in such big sets with many kits, so Phantom is kinda unique on his path, so why we can't do something different?

Hope this cleared things up, didn't meant to be aggressive but the list was a bit unnecessary. Maybe i was unclear in the previous post or maybe you just fast-read it, peace

Have you been following the thread though? Space kit was already discussed and mentioned as planned a month ago... so my assumption is you are complaining about the base because what you are asking for is already being added. Also, there is nothing in my list that is wrong, I simply didn't ALSO mention space bar kits as to me saying "no accent in base" is clearly indicating there was a spacebar kit and "no accent" indicates more obviously there is no option for an accent at all.

Let's not forget the next part of your quote that i left off:

Quote
so the whole thing "base kit must have blabla" doesn't stand. I proposed  yellow spacebars instead of adding them, which would increase the price too much (still i wouldn't mind, both are fine to me). 

Wonder why I thought you were talking about base kits...

Plus when you add CONTEXT:

I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me

Sorry I'm not psychic... To me reading everything you wrote, I get the impression you want yellow spacebars in the base and are complaining that they are not there. Where exactly am I misunderstanding you?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 18:02:37
EDIT: nvm just stahp both of us, keep the IC clean, i'm on discord if you want 


don't click that stupid button below, that was my answer that will generate other useless answers for this IC

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Have you been following the thread though? eSpace kit was already discussed and mentioned as plannd a month ago...

Yes since MD contest.  I guess you are still not reading. 
The point is that OP for a while didn't really wanted to add the spacebar kit (which is totally understandable). 
I don't think we need to discuss this anymore since the spacebar kit accented will probably be added as a extra kit (which i also suggested to op privately), and if it happens ok, otherwise who cares. 

so my assumption is you are complaining about the base because what you are asking for is already being added.

To make it clear, i don't care a single **** about yellow spacebars and have multiple screenshots confirming it (i also do like a lot purple in case you don't know me, just like you do).
I suggested it because multiple people asked and not only here, my point is to make them happy since 250 MOQ nowdays with another purple is not that easy, so people must be in fact happy at the end.   


Also, there is nothing in my list that is wrong, I simply didn't ALSO mention space bar kits as to me saying "no accent in base" is clearly indicating there was a spacebar kit and "no accent" indicates more obviously there is no option for an accent at all.

Your list in a tldr:

- Monotones with accented spacebars in "spacebar kit"
when i said: "ikr but every monotone also have a spacebar kit accented while this one doesn't..." 

Which basically means that monotones doesn't have accented spacebars in base but they have the accented spacebars in the spacebar kit while this didn't had any planned spacebar kit really happening.
 E.g sets like Terminal and BoB shouldn't be in your list. 

- Monotones without accents :thinking: 

- Monotones with not even 120 keycaps :thinking:x2


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...so the whole thing "base kit must have blabla" doesn't stand. I proposed yellow spacebars instead of adding them, which would increase the price too much (still i wouldn't mind, both are fine to me).


Which is my answer to donut when he basically said "base kit can't have accented spacebar".. umh?


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Plus when you add CONTEXT:
I do agree on everything.  The only change i would do is probably yellow spacebars instead of purple spacebars in base kits (to not increase price), but not sure if this will be ok for all the others. Both options are ok for me
Sorry I'm not psychic... To me reading everything you wrote, I get the impression you want yellow spacebars in the base and are complaining that they are not there. Where exactly am I misunderstanding you?

I'll try to explain again since this is the only thing of your whole quoting where you might be right and i was unclear on this:   

1 - I like purple over everything else. 
2 - I prefer in fact purple spacebars SLIGHTLY over the yellow spacebars, whatever of them happens, i'm ok. 
3 - I suggested yellow/beige spacebar instead of purple because i saw multiple people asking. 

and 


4 - OP will probably run that spacebar kit and if it happens ok, otherwise still ok. MOQ should be 100 so it might happen and no one will complain. 
5 - Can we please stop this useless "quote-fight" already? 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 31 March 2018, 18:46:03
can you do a render with the yellow bar on the monotone set?

i don't have a horse in this race as i have burnt my keeb budget for the next couple...but it would make for a good segway into a productive convo

whether it is well received or not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:26:45
Just putting in my 2¢ but I’m not interested in the beige spacebars. I don’t mind if they’re in a spacebar kit but please don’t take the purple ones out of the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:33:47
space news:
i have the space kits ready

the reason its not up on the thread yet is because gmk is still working on the quotes and i want to know if its actually worth it to split the kits.

about yellow space bar, how many are interested in them? tbh i dont think it will look that great but please let me know if you want to see yellow space

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For this set, I will only go for purple spacebar as the yellow would ruin the monotone of this set, imo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:37:51
Pretty sure OP will run the base kit like it is and put the accented spacebars where it should be, in the spacebar kit. 
Purple spacebar seems secured boys, that change won't happen  ;D

The real question now is how many would join the spacebar kit (which should contain split spacebars and yellow spacebars) ?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: Al41 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:48:03
I plan on using a custom spacebar but i do like the purple more. That being said i think i would still be in for a yellow/beige spacebar kit. I'm new and just starting my collection so i don't mind having extra color options, just in case i want mix with future sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: cldskt on Sun, 01 April 2018, 07:46:50
space news:
i have the space kits ready

the reason its not up on the thread yet is because gmk is still working on the quotes and i want to know if its actually worth it to split the kits.

about yellow space bar, how many are interested in them? tbh i dont think it will look that great but please let me know if you want to see yellow space

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I personally wouldn't mind having a beige spacebar, provided that the price of the base kit does not increase.

If putting the beige spacebar increases the price of the base kit, I'm all for bundling the accent spacebars together in the spacebar child kit instead.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: x86ect on Mon, 02 April 2018, 02:28:32
You don't get to be Kings and Queens without the gold [space] bars to back it up.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 03 April 2018, 20:44:59
AFAIK there are these GMK runs currently running:

GMK Happy Life: until 15/4
GMK Doom: until 20/4
GMK Necro: until 27/4
GMK Olivia: until 28/4

So is it to safe to say that this will run after Olivia ends?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: wowremy on Fri, 06 April 2018, 01:38:51
I really hope this set happens... In like a month or so.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:56:39
Where is 1.5u "Meta" or "Code" keycap?  Many boards support only 1.5u key for Cmd/Win.  (Zephyr, M60)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: wowremy on Thu, 12 April 2018, 00:40:58
You don't get to be Kings and Queens without the gold [space] bars to back it up.
I agree, this set needs a Gold spacebar, and even Golder legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 4/13/2018 - spacebar kit
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 12:22:06
Gonna need to find a keyboard to put this on
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 4/13/2018 - spacebar kit
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 14 April 2018, 14:01:40
Gonna need to find a keyboard to put this on

I bet this would look good on the MoM0110
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 4/13/2018 - spacebar kit
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 14:39:10
Gonna need to find a keyboard to put this on

I bet this would look good on the MoM0110

Oohhh, definitely. I was planning on using Alps DSA Lightcycle or Japanese AEK for that, though. With either Blue or Brown alps. Not sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sat, 14 April 2018, 16:04:15
If only we could have a Rolls Royce novelty.

"Phantom" has been the name of a many Rolls Royce models in the past.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom *update 3/25/2018 - euro and colevrak kits
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 21 April 2018, 07:04:02
I really hope this set happens... In like a month or so.
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 21 April 2018, 07:58:58
Omg, finally it's happening!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: ewwgin on Sat, 21 April 2018, 08:01:32
Sweet! I need to get a board for this then. What board is everyone putting this gorgeous set on?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 21 April 2018, 08:39:45
Sweet! I need to get a board for this then. What board is everyone putting this gorgeous set on?


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I think it will look good on any dark color boards  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 21 April 2018, 08:53:06
Sweet! I need to get a board for this then. What board is everyone putting this gorgeous set on?


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hhkb or rama m60-a or both :p :p
Title: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sat, 21 April 2018, 10:00:59
Silver Kira EXS with purple insert
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: RSC on Sat, 21 April 2018, 10:04:09
(https://briano1905.github.io/gmk-phantom/ergodox.jpg)

When I see this, I think this is one of those sets that should also offer an optional blank modifiers kit. Damn, it looks amazing like this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 21 April 2018, 10:21:10
H Y P E


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Hutch on Sat, 21 April 2018, 11:22:35
What cases are in the render images #3, #4, #5, and #6?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 21 April 2018, 11:31:45
What cases are in the render images #3, #4, #5, and #6?

Thanks!

The first one should be a prototype render of a keeb by Janglad, a keyboard that never happened. 
The second seems to not be a specific case, but you can find multiple keebs with that layout/case style. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 21 April 2018, 14:49:31
everyone get on the HYPE train
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: ye_cole on Sat, 21 April 2018, 15:26:16
is it too late to request weeb legends?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Remsky on Sat, 21 April 2018, 15:33:15
is it too late to request weeb legends?

I mean it is entering GB phase like really soon....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 21 April 2018, 16:10:13
everyone get on the HYPE train
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 21 April 2018, 16:14:15
is it too late to request weeb legends?

: H A N G E R Y F A C E : 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 21 April 2018, 16:36:33
is it too late to request weeb legends?
How about we keep weeb legends in sets where it fits the theme.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 21 April 2018, 20:44:55
inb4 the hype train I hope we can see some smexy color samples from GMK ;)


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Sat, 21 April 2018, 20:48:06
Looking forward to this, should be my first GMK set! I love how not over-the-top the novelties are.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: briano1905 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 15:15:23
original post updated with pricing!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 15:35:02
Nice! $145 @ 250 MOQ is legit especially with those novelties in the base kit.

Hoping the Canadian pricing is just the exchange rate conversion.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 22 April 2018, 15:40:31
Nice! $145 @ 250 MOQ is legit especially with those novelties in the base kit.

Hoping the Canadian pricing is just the exchange rate conversion.


Don't forget that dope 135 euro in EU with Mykeyboard.  Usually with VAT we ends up to pay a lot more, but this time is really reasonable :) 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:27:06
Screamed internally knowing that this is shipping in November. But if November shipping is what it takes to get proper QC, I'll be willing to sit tight.

One question though: the "$-" pricing for Asia/AU/NZ, does it mean that they will have different pricing than US ones?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: xondat on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:30:06
Screamed internally knowing that this is shipping in November. But if November shipping is what it takes to get proper QC, I'll be willing to sit tight.

One question though: the "$-" pricing for Asia/AU/NZ, does it mean that they will have different pricing than US ones?

Most likely different prices since it'll be a different vendor and they have additional fees to cover etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:31:36
Screamed internally knowing that this is shipping in November. But if November shipping is what it takes to get proper QC, I'll be willing to sit tight.

One question though: the "$-" pricing for Asia/AU/NZ, does it mean that they will have different pricing than US ones?

Most likely different prices since it'll be a different vendor and they have additional fees to cover etc.

Ah gotcha. Hope that the difference won’t be exorbitant cause the US price looks pretty neat.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:59:37
Pretty good pricing. Hope we can meet the moq.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Mon, 23 April 2018, 11:56:51
Screamed internally knowing that this is shipping in November. But if November shipping is what it takes to get proper QC, I'll be willing to sit tight.

One question though: the "$-" pricing for Asia/AU/NZ, does it mean that they will have different pricing than US ones?

Most likely different prices since it'll be a different vendor and they have additional fees to cover etc.

Ah gotcha. Hope that the difference won’t be exorbitant cause the US price looks pretty neat.


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Using GMK Necro as a comparison, I suppose the base set would run at $175 on zFrontier and the same price for the spacebar kit as the US vendor. With free shipping from zFrontier I guess that's fair.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 12:16:31
Pretty good pricing. Hope we can meet the moq.

There have been quite a lot of purple sets lately (GMK Laser, GMK Taro, GMK Black Lotus [if it comes back to life], GMK Violent Tendencies) but I think GMK Phantom is unique enough that it can easily reach MOQ.

I'm personally in for Base + Spacebars and maybe either 40s/Ergoplanck.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: KaosJ on Mon, 23 April 2018, 14:20:29
Pretty good pricing. Hope we can meet the moq.

There have been quite a lot of purple sets lately (GMK Laser, GMK Taro, GMK Black Lotus [if it comes back to life], GMK Violent Tendencies) but I think GMK Phantom is unique enough that it can easily reach MOQ.

I'm personally in for Base + Spacebars and maybe either 40s/Ergoplanck.

It will be hard, but we can make it! 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:36:19
I apologize if that has already been discussed in the thread and I have missed it...

https://mechkeys.ca/pages/news

Based on this post, I assume mechkeys is no longer the Canadian proxy, and that is why there is no Canadian price listed?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 07:16:04
I apologize if that has already been discussed in the thread and I have missed it...

https://mechkeys.ca/pages/news

Based on this post, I assume mechkeys is no longer the Canadian proxy, and that is why there is no Canadian price listed?

nope. he will still be the canadian vendor. pricing should be up tomorrow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: briano1905 on Wed, 25 April 2018, 08:21:28
price for asia/au/nz updated. waiting for canada's one done.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cfiggis on Tue, 01 May 2018, 12:54:51
So, these are going on sale sometime later today?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:18:08
So, these are going on sale sometime later today?
They’re on sale now at the vendor websites. The GB thread is probably just waiting to be approved.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:24:53
Just confirming that my eyes aren't playing tricks on me: there is 1.75u R4 Shift included in the Base kit yes?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:47:34
Just confirming that my eyes aren't playing tricks on me: there is 1.75u R4 Shift included in the Base kit yes?

Indeed. Wouldn't dream of running a set without one!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:48:17
Just confirming that my eyes aren't playing tricks on me: there is 1.75u R4 Shift included in the Base kit yes?

Indeed. Wouldn't dream of running a set without one!

Awesome. Ordered!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: Data on Tue, 01 May 2018, 20:19:59
Oh sweet. GB time? I'll get my order in on Friday.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: cldskt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 20:21:27
Oh sweet. GB time? I'll get my order in on Friday.  :cool:

GB is live now: https://briano1905.github.io/gmk-phantom/ until 31st May!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Phantom - GB May 1st 2018
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 01 May 2018, 20:40:01
Group Buy thread is live