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Title: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:30:21
(https://i.imgur.com/cz98kKy.png)

Welcome to the GMK Red Lantern Interest Check!
 It's Phil/Relapse on MechGroupBuys/YouTube.
This was a set I've had in the works for a long while now and I've slowly made progress to the point where I was comfortable posting this IC.
Please take the time to read through the IC and fill out the form at the bottom! I appreciate any responses!
I'm looking for community feedback on where to take the set in terms of novelties, and some additional offerings.

Background:
This set was inspired by a Chinese Red Lantern. Specifically this photo:
(https://i.imgur.com/YFySHK3.jpg)

Kits:
(https://i.imgur.com/BKD08EJ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1Vof1lV.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/oOLUnDO.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VB0B0tK.png)

Full imgur gallery of kit renders (https://imgur.com/a/kCYjq52)

Novelties & Other Kitting:
Novelties are being planned for this set and is currently pending direction of IC.
I was planning on offering Latin Alphas as an alternate alphas kit. Please fill out the IC if you were interested in having them added.
Take a look at the IC to see what ideas are being considered and feel free to suggest your own!

Board Renders:
Keep in mind that board renders are not 100% accurate and could cause slight color variations due to differences in lighting in the render environment.
Credit to Dandruff for board renders.

Dalco 959 Mini
(https://i.imgur.com/6zlok83.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/H0LpLYP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4e8i9QY.jpg)

Fuji65
(https://i.imgur.com/1vN5EFh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/a8YszJd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/u60zhlq.jpg)

U80-A
(https://i.imgur.com/lmayTfn.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/aU1yWTx.jpg)

Deskmats:
TBD - pending interest and direction of IC.

Collabs:
Artisans:
Coconut Keycaps
DeagCaps
Shirouu
YuKeys
-- MORE TO COME --

Metal Artisan Keycap:
TBD - pending interest in set & community feedback

Vendors & Group Buy Date:
TBD

=====Interest Check Form===== (https://forms.gle/g26cJdfx2AEpJzto6)
Thanks for taking the time to go through the IC! Progress will be slow, so please bare with me while I learn the ropes (mostly ride off Dandruff!)... Looking forward to reading your comments.


Thanks
Dandruff for direction and renders
MLee for direction
Winter for direction
MechGroupBuys & members for the support

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:32:05
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Volnoka on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:34:09
I'll take the whole thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Aerysten on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:36:25
I’ll take it all and then some, thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:39:12
Got a RAL or Pantone for the burgundy and yellow? Would P3 or RO2 fit for the sublegends?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Spyderrz on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:42:16
Yes please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:45:47
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:39:12
Got a RAL or Pantone for the burgundy and yellow? Would P3 or RO2 fit for the sublegends?

For the base color: RAL3005
For the sublegends, I was thinking of P3.
For the legends, either N6 or a custom RAL (in talks to see what would be more feasible for the set).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red La
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:01:07
For those wondering what this would look like next to perestroika…both are RAL 3005. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104415.0)

P3 is the red of classic red and the dominant alpha color of Handarbeit.

I like both of those a lot.

Edit: what about GMK cv for the yellow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: andromache on Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:05:41
I love the understated color on the sublegends! GLWIC!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: hali on Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:49:47
I think the 40s kit, let alone a 40s kit at all, might be a little too large of an offering for GMK

3 key pls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: halocantkb on Mon, 04 October 2021, 20:09:27
can we have a base kit without sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: IMZO on Mon, 04 October 2021, 21:57:21
i think its a cool set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 22:49:18
Quote from: halocantkb on Mon, 04 October 2021, 20:09:27
can we have a base kit without sublegends

Latin alphas would be an alt alphas kit if enough interest was there! Unfortunately I wasn't into the idea of having another base kit with latin alphas as it didn't really follow what I envisioned for the set!

Quote from: IMZO on Mon, 04 October 2021, 21:57:21
i think its a cool set

Thanks  ;D

Quote from: hali on Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:49:47
I think the 40s kit, let alone a 40s kit at all, might be a little too large of an offering for GMK

3 key pls

This was an interesting choice, I looked at quite a few kits and came up with this just to ensure full support for the majority of keyboards. I'll keep that under consideration though!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Dyto69 on Tue, 05 October 2021, 07:25:46
I think its very hard to read the sublegends and i dont like the colors but thats just me. glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 05 October 2021, 07:38:08
Have you considered a more golden tone for the yellow?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Armyofkeyboards on Tue, 05 October 2021, 12:13:10
This is sexy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 05 October 2021, 12:52:07
With blood and rage of crimson red, Ripped from a corpse so freshly dead,

Sorry wrong red lantern.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Bub on Tue, 05 October 2021, 13:07:19
Quote from: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:45:47
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:39:12
Got a RAL or Pantone for the burgundy and yellow? Would P3 or RO2 fit for the sublegends?

For the base color: RAL3005
For the sublegends, I was thinking of P3.
For the legends, either N6 or a custom RAL (in talks to see what would be more feasible for the set).

Could also consider RAL 3020 for subs! P3 is a bit brighter (which might be good). I think 3020 is more accurate to your renders. This is the red in GMK Panels, and Bachoo has used it on his legends on Ishtar (I believe that's where he used it). This is Bachoo's pic:

(https://imgur.com/lh7LfEy.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: themasterphi on Tue, 05 October 2021, 14:31:38
Quote from: Fredington on Tue, 05 October 2021, 07:38:08
Have you considered a more golden tone for the yellow?

Yes, I've been flopping back and forth between this shade of yellow vs a darker one. I didn't want too deep a gold as it would make the set quite dark overall - playing around with different shades of yellow/gold to see what would be a good balance.

Quote from: Bub on Tue, 05 October 2021, 13:07:19
Quote from: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:45:47
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 October 2021, 17:39:12
Got a RAL or Pantone for the burgundy and yellow? Would P3 or RO2 fit for the sublegends?

For the base color: RAL3005
For the sublegends, I was thinking of P3.
For the legends, either N6 or a custom RAL (in talks to see what would be more feasible for the set).

Could also consider RAL 3020 for subs! P3 is a bit brighter (which might be good). I think 3020 is more accurate to your renders. This is the red in GMK Panels, and Bachoo has used it on his legends on Ishtar (I believe that's where he used it). This is Bachoo's pic:

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/lh7LfEy.png)


Thanks for providing that! Still deciding, I wanted the sublegends to be subtle and not super "in your face" pop out red that it directs all the attention to it when you glance at the set. Just enough that it stands out, but not enough that it takes over the whole set if that makes sense. Another issue with making the set appear too dark overall if my legends and sublegends were more of a darker tone, finding that balance that I like has been a mission.

Quote from: Dyto69 on Tue, 05 October 2021, 07:25:46
I think its very hard to read the sublegends and i dont like the colors but thats just me. glwic

Yeah I think the renders were hard to do it justice. From the above response - I wanted more of a subtle red that sticks out, but not pop out in a sense. And no worries! Can't please them all, thanks for taking a look though!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: hali on Tue, 05 October 2021, 15:58:56
Quote from: themasterphi on Mon, 04 October 2021, 22:49:18
Quote from: hali on Mon, 04 October 2021, 18:49:47
I think the 40s kit, let alone a 40s kit at all, might be a little too large of an offering for GMK

3 key pls

This was an interesting choice, I looked at quite a few kits and came up with this just to ensure full support for the majority of keyboards. I'll keep that under consideration though!


I'm mostly concerned about the kit reaching MOQ naturally. As of recent, the solution from 40s community members is to just run three-key
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Ratheighna on Tue, 05 October 2021, 16:47:47
I would love an alternate alphas kit without any Latin alphas at all, I think it would look very clean and more true to the inspiration image as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: imivanh on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:52:50
 :thumb:What the how did I just see this now. Looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:57:43
Sub legend on numrow doesn't make sense to me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: vishydesigns on Wed, 13 October 2021, 16:03:26
would brighten the red a little bit, but I think this looks great! GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Evasive on Wed, 13 October 2021, 19:01:49
Quote from: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:57:43
Sub legend on numrow doesn't make sense to me
I mean it's pretty common, all hiragana and katakana sets also have sub legends on numrow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 13 October 2021, 21:31:15
Quote from: Evasive on Wed, 13 October 2021, 19:01:49
Quote from: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:57:43
Sub legend on numrow doesn't make sense to me
I mean it's pretty common, all hiragana and katakana sets also have sub legends on numrow.

It’s not the same thing.

Hiragana and Katakana have 46 unique characters and so require the use of the number row to have them all represented. Here, the numbers are simply written out in Chinese. It’s like writing out “one” in English under the number “1”

Looks silly to anyone who reads Chinese.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 23:35:55
Quote from: Fredington on Wed, 13 October 2021, 21:31:15
Quote from: Evasive on Wed, 13 October 2021, 19:01:49
Quote from: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:57:43
Sub legend on numrow doesn't make sense to me
I mean it's pretty common, all hiragana and katakana sets also have sub legends on numrow.

It’s not the same thing.

Hiragana and Katakana have 46 unique characters and so require the use of the number row to have them all represented. Here, the numbers are simply written out in Chinese. It’s like writing out “one” in English under the number “1”

Looks silly to anyone who reads Chinese.
And literally no keyboard with any kind of Chinese sub legend has a number sub legend on num row
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: FullCryoPsychochomp on Thu, 14 October 2021, 00:26:19
I really like the colors. Very excited to see the novelties. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: nvh2092 on Thu, 14 October 2021, 01:41:06
You have a duplicated R2 pipe in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: ABABA on Thu, 14 October 2021, 18:40:32
+1 to no subs on numrow, looks a bit silly as is.  Everyone can read arabic numerals.

Also, OOC is there a reason for traditional subs vs. the simplified usage in the banner?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Loquerish on Sat, 13 November 2021, 03:07:00
I like the colors. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: BloremBipsum on Sat, 13 November 2021, 05:56:08
great concept and great execution! Suggestion for deskmat: Chinatown setting with the lanterns out and about
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: iinko_mk on Mon, 25 April 2022, 00:27:00
I think it's a pretty neat set

But dang, not a single render is in cherry profile. It's all oem
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 25 April 2022, 07:59:20
Quote from: Fredington on Wed, 13 October 2021, 21:31:15
Quote from: Evasive on Wed, 13 October 2021, 19:01:49
Quote from: kylekwong1 on Wed, 13 October 2021, 15:57:43
Sub legend on numrow doesn't make sense to me
I mean it's pretty common, all hiragana and katakana sets also have sub legends on numrow.

It’s not the same thing.

Hiragana and Katakana have 46 unique characters and so require the use of the number row to have them all represented. Here, the numbers are simply written out in Chinese. It’s like writing out “one” in English under the number “1”

Looks silly to anyone who reads Chinese.

Agreed. Cangjie with number row sublegends is not a real thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Fraaaan on Mon, 25 April 2022, 08:11:05
You can move r1 End and PgDn from base to numpad kit because those are for 1800 support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 25 April 2022, 10:34:38
Quote from: Fraaaan on Mon, 25 April 2022, 08:11:05
You can move r1 End and PgDn from base to numpad kit because those are for 1800 support.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Erebus923 on Mon, 25 April 2022, 14:56:15
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: Erebus923 on Mon, 25 April 2022, 14:57:24
This would be sooo sick if it had a latin base alpha! love it :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: FrenchToast0213 on Sat, 06 August 2022, 01:09:47
I am new but I just want to say that I love this design and would definitely buy it! I agree with what others have said about the num row, either just have arabic numerals or just Chinese characters.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: ampp33 on Mon, 24 October 2022, 00:04:13
Would totally get this if it had Latin base caps!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: arr1 on Tue, 25 October 2022, 14:43:26
If it had Latin alphas I would simply give you my entire wallet. Anyways, good luck with the IC, and hopefully you reach GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Lantern
Post by: monkiepaw on Thu, 19 January 2023, 13:34:14
Love this set, would definitely go in