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[IC] J-02 60% - GB Live Today
« on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 05:56:56 »
Latest News:

 - HHKB tops will be an option after significant feedback and community requests!
 - Travel cases will be added to every order!
 - Limited Edition Forms live on 1st February at c. 10am EST
 - Standard Edition live on 8th February at all vendors - 10am EST



Hello everybody

This is the Interest Check for my second board, the J-02. A fully featured 60% with Brass internal weighting, removable pen rail, full isolation mount design, carbon fibre plate and with a USB-C daughterboard.

After the success in proving the execution of my first board (the J-01; more info and pics/videos HERE and a build stream HERE ), I wanted to do something a little less extreme from a layout perspective and that was more accessible both in terms of layout options and availability.




Design & Inspiration
The original idea for this board actually precedes the J-01; but at the time I wanted to prove that the design, aesthetics and mechanisms worked. This design is centred around a top and bottom piece anodised in the same colour, with a thick brass insert through the middle; and extruding through the top to form part of a pen rail.
This was influenced by the old school vintage boards which used to have pen rails incorporated in the design for office workers; and I wanted to do a modern take on that. Its currently magnet mounted; although this may change in the final design to something more robust.


The dark colours were inspired by the current black and brass movement that is seen in lots of household design and features, but I would like to offer dark grey and perhaps a white if there is interest.
In terms of the shape, again I wanted to do a take on vintage boards, offering a slab of a keyboard, nestled neatly on a wedge. This makes the board easy to pick up, reduces the final weight of a full sided and back design, and gives it a timeless floating look in line with the J-01.

J-01 side profile by Kwer

The board is constructed from multiple pieces, and is fairly involved. The mounting system is full isolation mount using Nitrile rubber, as seen on the J-01 and the Kepler. Below are some exploded views of the board showing construction; although Im looking at opportunities to enable the gaskets to come pre-assembled as one unit that stretches around the plate post soldering.

The idea behind this design is to remove all contact of the plate with the case - removing any inherent ping or resonance transference by contact. This works exceptionally well as seen on the J-01 and Kepler. The idea behind the CF plate is to retain a robust typing experience with a softness added to the bottom out from the gaskets incorporated into the design. As a material CF feels very much like brass; however as its not a metal it doesn't have any issues with ping, and presents a strong note with a pleasant timbre and acoustics. The plates will also have acoustic assisting cuts made in strategic places for both ISO and ANSI variants.


Features
  • Full Isolation Gasket Mount
  • USB-C via a daughterboard
  • Custom 60% PCB with JST breakout and ISO/ANSI support
  • Fixed Carbon Fibre Plates offering ISO and ANSI variants (plate files avail once GB starts)
  • Unique Pen Rail Currently Magnet Mounted ; may change before GB
  • Thick brass middle and Pen rail for weight and aesthetics
  • Top and bottom are anodised aluminium colours TBC
  • Tops will be available in WKL, full 60 and HHKB most likely if interest is there for all three
  • 7 degree typing angle



Layouts
Here is a simple KLE showing the layouts that will be available on the PCB. If there is enough feedback to add other things I'm open to that - please let me know in the comments below. Plates will be fixed as ANSI or ISO with both caps options and split right shift. The ANSI File will also support split backspace for HHKB. Plates files will be available if anyone wants to get one made to something more specific based on the PCB support that gets added/changed.

PCB Compatibility

Fixed ISO Layout

Fixed ANSI Layout


Prototype
I have already had a prototype made, and Ill be hopefully building this on stream on Sunday 29th September 8pm UK, noon PST on the Top Clack channel.
The additional tops will also be prototyped prior to the GB to make sure everything is in order and to ensure success.
My inspections of the prototype have found it to be of a very high standard and Im excited to build the board for real Im currently just waiting on custom gaskets and PCBs, all of which should arrive this week.



Group Buy / Vendors
This GB will be run via Vendors - these are still be TBC although the EU proxy is likely to be MyKeyboard.EU. I just dont have the time personally to QC and validate all boards etc in a reasonable time-frame; and I wouldn't want o pass delays on to buyers due to my tardiness.

Date: Feb 2020

Pricing / Vendors:

US - Cannon Keys (Upas)
 - Limited Edition price - $625 (Share of 15 units with Jae)
 - Standard Edition Price - $460 (100 units avail)

EU - My Keyboard - (necromanx & NecrowomanX)
 - Standard Edition - ‎460 (50 Units avail)
EU - Jae
 - Limited Edition - ‎625 (share of 15 with Cannon Keys)

Asia - iLumKB - (iLouis_07 | iLumkb.com)
 - Limited Edition - 845 SGD - (5 Units avail)
 - Standard Edition - 620 SGD - (50 Units avail)


Limited Edition - Raffles will run on the 1st Feb for 24 hours, with winners selected from the entrants for both Asia and ROW lists.

Standard Edition - FCFS sales will open on the 8th Feb at the relevant Vendors.


Kits include:

Limited Edition
- E-white/Black Top Case
- WKL, HHKB or 60% options
- E-white / Black Bottom Case
- Copper middle weight
- Copper Pen Rail
- 12 Magnets
- Hardware & Bumpons
- Triple Layer Gasket
- PCB (QMK Compat)
- Daughterboard / Cable
- Carbon Fibre Plate (fixed ISO or fixed ANSI)
- Travel Case


Standard Edition
- Black or Space Grey Top Case
- WKL, HHKB or 60% options
- Black or Space Grey Bottom Case
- Brass middle weight
- Brass Pen Rail
- 12 Magnets
- Hardware & Bumpons
- Triple Layer Gasket
- PCB (QMK Compat)
- Daughterboard / Cable
- Carbon Fibre Plate (fixed ISO or fixed ANSI)
- Travel Case


GB will be open from the 8th until the 29th (its a leap year) of Feb or until all units have sold.

Discord : You can follow the design more closely here - https://discord.gg/MGVQCVG


More images












WKL Renders



Bingsu from Project Keyboard


MoDo Light from Janglad

Firefly from Emir


Thanks
Many thanks to the following for your help and support:

  • David and Yullia from MyKeyboard for their ongoing support and help in getting the set into IC
  • Kwer, Egla, Max, Poesjuh, Swires, Tobbles, Stocks and Yian for their incredible friendship and support
  • Satanarchist for all of his time, effort and CAD support
  • E11iot for his PCB designs
  • MacSurfy and UndercoverBrother for the amazing renders



Updates

 - HHKB tops will be offered in the GB!!

 - Price / Dates announced for all vendors 11/01

 - Costs / Dates / Times Will be announced in early Jan

 - Final Colours agreed (renders of all options soon): Standard Edition: Black with Brass accents or Space Grey with Brass accents. Limited Edition: E-white/Black with Copper Accents - 16/12

 - Final Tops agreed with Vendors - WKL and 60% (HHKB will not run due to low interest) - 16/12

 - Added IC form - 10/11

 - Added Bingsu, MoDo Light and Firefly renders - including full HHKB - 21/10

 - Added WKL Renders at end of OP - 05/10

 - all prototype parts now on hand - 27/09

 - Prototype build stream Complete - VOD on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAIHiFKJt69HNad6reiq8pg/videos) (29/09)

 - US Vendor Announcement - The US vendor will be CannonKeys!! (29/09)

 - GB Date - Feb 2020!
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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 05:57:15 »
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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:02:53 »
Love it. Interested!

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:03:50 »
Looking good, Jae

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:03:59 »
Not for me as I just wont be able to afford this!

Looks beautiful and well designed, I like the use of a daughter board for the USB.

Any reason for the fixed bottom row?

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:08:17 »
If it were a 65% it would be perfect for me, but it's so damn gorgeous I'm going to follow progress just in case!


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:23:45 »
Not for me as I just wont be able to afford this!

Looks beautiful and well designed, I like the use of a daughter board for the USB.

Any reason for the fixed bottom row?

Its the best bottom row?

Jk - but in all honesty it works for the WKL and HHKB tops which I expect to be more popular. if there is demand for a 6.25u bottom row then I'll add it to the PCB

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 06:31:37 »
Looking great!
Id be in if you add arrow cluster layout like the DZ60RGB

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:01:12 »
Looks awesome - my only concern would be getting one. Love the fixed bottom row, for HHKB or WKL. Hopefully there's enough interest in white as a colour, white + brass looks great.

Excited to see where this goes!

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:25:30 »
Looking great!
Id be in if you add arrow cluster layout like the DZ60RGB


Unlikely as this will compromise the whole bottom row on the pcb with additional footprints.


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:26:20 »
Looks awesome - my only concern would be getting one. Love the fixed bottom row, for HHKB or WKL. Hopefully there's enough interest in white as a colour, white + brass looks great.

Excited to see where this goes!


Yes I have some renders in white I can add if youd like to see.

This will not be as limited as the J-01. I anticipate 50 units tbh


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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:40:32 »
Very clean design! Who designed this beaut?

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:46:30 »
Looks awesome - my only concern would be getting one. Love the fixed bottom row, for HHKB or WKL. Hopefully there's enough interest in white as a colour, white + brass looks great.

Excited to see where this goes!


Yes I have some renders in white I can add if youd like to see.

This will not be as limited as the J-01. I anticipate 50 units tbh


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If you have renders of the other colours/blockers I definitely want to see them!

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:53:02 »
Looks awesome Jae! A board from you is a must buy!

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:57:52 »
This looks and sounds amazing. I will be watching closely.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 08:07:44 »
Very clean design! Who designed this beaut?


Design is mine as was the J-01 - CAD work by Satanarchist on the 02


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 08:08:40 »
Looks awesome Jae! A board from you is a must buy!


Thanks man!!


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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 08:13:32 »
This looks amazing. I'll definitely be following this IC!

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 08:50:17 »
Stunning! Cant wait, but will.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 09:08:00 »
Nice design.
Love the middle layer which makes the case more special.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 09:43:45 »
Is there any chance for the pcb to have Alps support?

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 09:45:31 »
Is there any chance for the pcb to have Alps support?

No plans as yet; I could arrange a small run of compatible PCBs if there is enough demand but it would add additional costs.


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 10:01:53 »
Damn she's pretty Jae!

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 10:02:22 »
Very nice, not a 60 fan normally but will be getting this for sure.


The forehead looks great with the brass pen rail.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 10:30:03 »
I'm very interested!

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 10:45:24 »
Love the design, hoping to see pink as a color option for GMK GMK Pretty in Pink :3


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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 11:12:55 »
Looks great! Unfortunately too premium for me, especially since I'm an ortho guy. Wish somebody designed a high(ish)-end 5x14 ortho. Pretty niche, I know, so probably not happening...

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 11:23:30 »
Looks really nice Jae. 
I have to be honest tho, i still prefer more the J-01 mainly because i need the arrows. I'm unaware of why the J-01 is no longer considered, apart that i really like the design because it will ends up heavy and with a lot of brass :)

For the future, i really hope in a J-03 https://i.imgur.com/I83OZRH.png




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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 12:47:41 »
Looks really nice Jae. 
I have to be honest tho, i still prefer more the J-01 mainly because i need the arrows. I'm unaware of why the J-01 is no longer considered, apart that i really like the design because it will ends up heavy and with a lot of brass :)

For the future, i really hope in a J-03 https://i.imgur.com/I83OZRH.png
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 13:03:59 »
Awesome.

Any chance for true HHKB (6u) bottom row, or at least 6.35. All the layouts look like a 7u spacebar.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 13:18:22 »
Interested to see how this gets priced. Usually 60's go for less than their 65+ counterparts, but the build quality on this looks too good to go for anything less than 350.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 13:50:57 »
I'll be streaming in 5 mins folks - live in 5 folks - Space65 build, J-02 proto first look, and talking IDB60 fulfilment....

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 13:53:03 »
Interested to see how this gets priced. Usually 60's go for less than their 65+ counterparts, but the build quality on this looks too good to go for anything less than 350.

I dont want to speculate on price just yet but thats the very lowest end of my estimates right now - given the level of complexity, the materials etc its likely to be closer to the $500 mark but I'll price as low as possible

Awesome.

Any chance for true HHKB (6u) bottom row, or at least 6.35. All the layouts look like a 7u spacebar.

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No - it will be MX HHKB, no 6u support. I may add a 6.25u bottom row option if enough people request it

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 14:04:24 »
I can live with 6.25 with a full bottom row too (3 keys on left, 4 on right)

Any interest anyone?

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 18:05:05 »
So, I just wanna first say I am really excited about this board. Been watching / lurking around since the 01 and it's quite excited to see you succeed with things. Go keep going!

Things I love about it: materials, looks heavy, sturdy, love that vibe, the colors are super classy, the build seems both simple and complex at the same time (not sure if that makes sense), and am I the only one who is kind of pumped to have things other than pens on that rail? ie. mail day artisans chilling for a day or so ;)

Onto question time. I asked in Discord (but I'm reposting here so the 'public' can see the answer Jae gave):

Q: " love seeing that [the J-02] doesn't look to be a closed / raffled GB. Is that right?" -me

A: "...yes I want it to be with a vendor. There will be a cap on the number avail but it will be way more open." -Jae

Definitely on standby for when this goes live and certainly hopping into the build stream, whether next week or in a month! :)

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 20:16:34 »
man this keyboard looks sweeeet.. nice!! i'll be following this

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 20:17:59 »
quite nice
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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 20:33:46 »
Pretty cool!

btw, did the J-01 ever go through an open group buy?

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:12:59 »
Super cool design! I was hoping more J-01s would be made, but it looks like too much of a good thing for now :(
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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 02:19:55 »
Alps support please? :D
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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 02:34:26 »
Pretty cool!

btw, did the J-01 ever go through an open group buy?

No, the J-01 had a limited run of prototypes. There are currently no plans to make any more. That being said I will be raffling off two boards in late October for charity. Details will be shared on Top Clack, discord, reddit and GH when this is ready.


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 02:35:08 »
Super cool design! I was hoping more J-01s would be made, but it looks like too much of a good thing for now :(


No plans for any further J-01 runs at present


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 02:36:08 »
Alps support please? :D

If 5 people ask and are comfortable with the cost in addition to the base kit then Ill commission them to be made; but no plans to support unless the demand is there

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 05:13:09 »
This looks great. HHKB top please. Would love to see split space support.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 09:03:28 »
This looks great. HHKB top please. Would love to see split space support.
HHKB top will be avail. Split space support is unlikely


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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 09:36:09 »
Gimme.

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 12:48:35 »
Damn, she BANGIN! May i ask for silver? Dixie mech rendered it in silver and it was very sexy

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 14:11:16 »
I would be interested in a HHKB top if it is around 420-450, but I understand it is too early to speculate.

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 23 September 2019, 14:27:34 »
This looks really good. Excited to see what the HHKB will look like.
 

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Re: [IC] J-02 60% Isolation Mount keyboard by Jae
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 24 September 2019, 01:50:15 »
Damn, she BANGIN! May i ask for silver? Dixie mech rendered it in silver and it was very sexy
I think Janglad did the render but yeah he did the J-01 in silver and brass. At the min Im leaning towards a light grey, black and maybe one other colour


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