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Title: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 January 2018, 16:53:26
Didn't think I'd be posting another thread with X60 in so soon, but here we are. I'll keep it brief.

I will be doing a very small run of a revised version of the original X60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82729) named X60 R. It keeps the original aesthetics of X60 V1, but has completely overhauled internal construction that addresses all issues from the previous version (noted below).

(https://i.imgur.com/aYR3As7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/jCXw4gB.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/f2On1r1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7qZilLB.png)

I'm expecting to receive the engraving for the weight by Sunday evening. I'll then get the case quoted for production (will announce pricing once received), and start the buy (estimating late next week). Probably FCFS, but might do raffle if there is a lot of demand.

I may develop a USB-C QMK PCB if there is demand for a PCB to be included. Currently I won't be providing one so there is freedom of choice.

Plate shown is a placeholder. There will be a universal plate available in different materials.

This is not X60 V2. That'll be ran in the future, so don't worry if you miss this one.

Case Information:
Specification:
Price (excluding fees + shipping):
Change Log from V1 to R:
More
  • Fixed fitment issues with some PCBs around the USB cutout.
  • Lowered height of front from 19mm to 16mm.
  • Changed plate mounting spacing to prevent excessive flex on the sides.
  • Plate fitment to top piece will be tighter to decrease adjustment needed.
  • Changed inner corner sizing for the top piece & cap fitment to be tighter.
  • Fixed weight fitment.
  • Changed weight proportions to be more balanced.
  • Updated plate to not be ugly.
  • Fixed ISO Enter cutout.


Price/Shipping/Lead Time:
Thanks! :-*
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: quaddepos on Fri, 12 January 2018, 16:58:30
❤️


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Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: quaddepos on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:00:34
Where can i find the price? it says above but no where to be found,

such a cool project bro!


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Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:05:20
seems like a decent project, but i'd like to see a larger run, maybe 15-20 instead of 10

10 is a bit on the "forced scarcity"/private GB side

but other than that, iterating is always good

Where can i find the price? it says above but no where to be found,

such a cool project bro!


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"will announce pricing once recieved"
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: quaddepos on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:06:21
count me in btw :-)


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Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: Hako on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:08:24
How different will the aesthetics of the V2 case be? I’m quite a fan of the current design, so I’m not sure if I should just wait for the V2.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: gnmar2723 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:10:20
Hey, I know this is kind of an odd question, but would/could you do a board that doesn't get any annode? I like the look of raw metal very much.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:13:06
seems like a decent project, but i'd like to see a larger run, maybe 15-20 instead of 10

10 is a bit on the "forced scarcity"/private GB side

but other than that, iterating is always good

The larger run will be X60 V2, I don't want this to become too big where it'll be problematic. If there is demand for 20 then I don't see why not, but there are so many 60s coming out at the minute that it might not be sensible to.

Where can i find the price? it says above but no where to be found

Yes, as Puddsy said, it'll be announced shortly.

count me in btw :-)

;D

How different will the aesthetics of the V2 case be? I’m quite a fan of the current design, so I’m not sure if I should just wait for the V2.

(https://i.imgur.com/yCxOoBA.png)

Slimmer bezels (V1/R are 8/4mm, V2 will be 6/4); different edge finishing (V1/R is chamfer, V2 is rounded); different engraving design (more similar to 268). Few other small things, but mostly those three.

Hey, I know this is kind of an odd question, but would/could you do a board that doesn't get any annode? I like the look of raw metal very much.

Don't see why not.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:18:04
Grab another one if you have your endgame.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:25:29
You know I’m excited for this. Yess WKL bby ;)


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Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:26:29
Cheers to hoping I can snag a spot in here! :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:29:55
Is FJELL/Revo-like white coating possible?

And more care from the factory please. No tightened screws or dings for example.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:30:30
Excited to hear about this. Will be gunning for a spot.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: WhateverZYX on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:32:14
Looking at the number of people viewing this thread, there seems to be quite some interest. More than 10 spots should go away fairly easily.

Would you also consider stainless steel weights and maybe a polymer or composite plate?

Edit: Also a vote from me for raffle instead of FCFS.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: dyrdevil on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:43:04
looks great, i'm in the market for a high quality 60 and might try to get in on this .  worried about there only being 10
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: regionfree on Fri, 12 January 2018, 17:59:18
Please count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 12 January 2018, 18:06:32
let me join and I will forgive for whatever you did wrong to x60 round 1
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: lunr on Fri, 12 January 2018, 18:21:40
Definitely interested. I hope there will be more than 10 for this run.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Fri, 12 January 2018, 18:23:52
Definitely interested in joining, +1 on the raffle.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: FunTyme on Fri, 12 January 2018, 18:38:01
This has got me excited most definitely
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 19:43:54
this is kinda tempting, but part of me thinks id be better off waiting for V2 so it matches my 268 :P.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: alveeno on Fri, 12 January 2018, 19:46:18
I'd love to get in this! Lots of options coming soon though, viper, ares, and c x h.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 19:49:17
I'd love to get in this! Lots of options coming soon though, viper, ares, and c x h.

So many options, but this is still the best looking 60% imo.. even if the price is a bit hard to swallow


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Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 January 2018, 21:17:43
Is FJELL/Revo-like white coating possible?

And more care from the factory please. No tightened screws or dings for example.

Probably, but I don't want to over complicate things.

Different factory from X60 V1 (same as 268, Fjell, Klippe etc.) so no issues like that.

Cheers to hoping I can snag a spot in here! :cool:

You know I’m excited for this. Yess WKL bby ;)

Excited to hear about this. Will be gunning for a spot.

This has got me excited most definitely

Please count me in!

Thanks for the support ;D

looks great, i'm in the market for a high quality 60 and might try to get in on this .  worried about there only being 10

Definitely interested. I hope there will be more than 10 for this run.

I hear your concerns; I'll see if I can increase the amount.

Definitely interested in joining, +1 on the raffle.

I think it's safe to say this will be a raffle due to the amount of comments :eek:

this is kinda tempting, but part of me thinks id be better off waiting for V2 so it matches my 268 :P.

Bad news, they won't match :'(

I'd love to get in this! Lots of options coming soon though, viper, ares, and c x h.

Yes, that is a slight concern but hopefully the demand is there when it comes to release.
Title: Re: [IC] X60 R
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 21:57:34
this is kinda tempting, but part of me thinks id be better off waiting for V2 so it matches my 268 :P.

Bad news, they won't match :'(

I'd love to get in this! Lots of options coming soon though, viper, ares, and c x h.

Yes, that is a slight concern but hopefully the demand is there when it comes to release.

What ya mean? These look similar to me:

(https://i.imgur.com/yCxOoBA.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4wO7nvm.png)

I just mean like design family, i know i can't get a X60AG in the same colors as my 268 lol.

What kinda time frame you thinking on the R anyway? I may still try, can't decide. What are the chances of a navy blue option :P
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 January 2018, 22:09:28
this is kinda tempting, but part of me thinks id be better off waiting for V2 so it matches my 268 :P.

Bad news, they won't match :'(

What ya mean? These look similar to me:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yCxOoBA.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4wO7nvm.png)


I just mean like design family, i know i can't get a X60AG in the same colors as my 268 lol.

What kinda time frame you thinking on the R anyway? I may still try, can't decide. What are the chances of a navy blue option :P

268 is 4.6/4mm bezels, X60 V2 will be 6/4mm.

There won't be a X60AG by the way, AG was a one off thing :)

Time frame should be pretty good considering the amount. I'm not sure how much time the factory will be inactive for for CNY, so kinda hard to work it out. I've posted May above but could be a lot quicker than that.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: avid on Fri, 12 January 2018, 22:34:37
really like WKL 60%.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 13 January 2018, 01:57:27
Any chance for a split Left Shift?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 13 January 2018, 02:04:37
Any chance for a split Left Shift?

It's in the OP: "Plate shown is a placeholder. There will be a universal plate available in different materials."

I'm guessing the render is just xondat's preferred layout. With the 268, he offered a universal and a fixed layout plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: DJ Shoko on Sat, 13 January 2018, 03:19:11
You got my interest just by WKL, I'm definitely eyeing on this project now.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 13 January 2018, 03:23:06
Any chance for a split Left Shift?

It's in the OP: "Plate shown is a placeholder. There will be a universal plate available in different materials."

I'm guessing the render is just xondat's preferred layout. With the 268, he offered a universal and a fixed layout plate.
I must be blind. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: boxfrommoon on Sat, 13 January 2018, 04:13:26
Definitely interested! One WKL please 😎
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sat, 13 January 2018, 06:24:36
I simply couldn‘t get my hands on a R1 X60. Either way too overpriced on mechmarket or not quick enough. I‘m lucky enough to be part of your 268 AG, but as I really like your designs, I‘d consider an X60 HHKB in Dark Grey.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 13 January 2018, 10:33:40
Be good if it's possible to get multiple tops ala HHKB + WK/WKL but definitely dark grey for me!
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 13 January 2018, 10:45:43
I'm going to hold off on all the other options in hopes of getting a black one!
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 January 2018, 15:50:02
Thanks again for the support, been quite unexpected. Going off that, there is a chance I will increase to 20. I still have general concerns about meeting that number due to there being a lot of buys open right now.

Advantages to doing 20 is that more people can get one, and it'll cost less. On the other hand, little bit more complex to run as a buy, and also will take a bit longer. I think those are okay tradeoffs, and I'm happy to go with them.

Once I get the engraving, I'll get quotes for 10 & 20 cases, and judge from that.

For now, it would be highly appreciated if the people that would like a case could fill in the following form. Please fill this in with the spec you'd want if you had a slot. This will help with the quote (top pieces) and having a good idea of what people want. :p

Google Form Link (https://goo.gl/forms/hcbbgnlq07lyA7im2)
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: bthezebra on Sat, 13 January 2018, 16:08:43
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Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: RealLaugh on Sat, 13 January 2018, 16:47:48
Thanks again for the support, been quite unexpected. Going off that, there is a chance I will increase to 20. I still have general concerns about meeting that number due to there being a lot of buys open right now.

Advantages to doing 20 is that more people can get one, and it'll cost less. On the other hand, little bit more complex to run as a buy, and also will take a bit longer. I think those are okay tradeoffs, and I'm happy to go with them.

Once I get the engraving, I'll get quotes for 10 & 20 cases, and judge from that.

For now, it would be highly appreciated if the people that would like a case could fill in the following form. Please fill this in with the spec you'd want if you had a slot. This will help with the quote (top pieces) and having a good idea of what people want. :p

Google Form Link (https://goo.gl/forms/hcbbgnlq07lyA7im2)

Great stuff, in for a WKL in Silver/Silver  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: jjanssen1 on Sat, 13 January 2018, 17:54:51
100% in for HHKB Grey  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 13 January 2018, 20:25:38
WKL silver/silver :thumb:


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Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: gfreeman11898 on Sat, 13 January 2018, 23:18:05
1st post on Geekhack, waiting for X60 R2/Refresh.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: txclack on Sat, 13 January 2018, 23:51:01
In for one.  I'm hoping for a chance for custom colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: hhkbp2 on Sun, 14 January 2018, 07:38:37
Interested. Hope V2 will happen soon. 10 is such a small number, for R.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: olieatstofu on Sun, 14 January 2018, 08:43:09
Im in, wkl black on black
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 14 January 2018, 23:18:59
If you want to show your interest, now is the time :-* Going to shut this in the morning.

Google Form Link (https://goo.gl/forms/hcbbgnlq07lyA7im2)

If you've already filled it out, thank you very much. The information for top piece and color is extremely helpful.

Percentage wise, there has been a massive increase in WKL :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: DJSwayde on Sun, 14 January 2018, 23:25:22
Definitely want in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 14 January 2018, 23:48:20
If you want to show your interest, now is the time :-* Going to shut this in the morning.

Google Form Link (https://goo.gl/forms/hcbbgnlq07lyA7im2)

If you've already filled it out, thank you very much. The information for top piece and color is extremely helpful.

Percentage wise, there has been a massive increase in WKL :eek:

I blame dgneo for that! It's even got me tempted...
Title: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Form Inside)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 00:04:57
If you want to show your interest, now is the time Going to shut this in the morning.

Google Form Link (https://goo.gl/forms/hcbbgnlq07lyA7im2)

If you've already filled it out, thank you very much. The information for top piece and color is extremely helpful.

Percentage wise, there has been a massive increase in WKL :eek:

I blame dgneo for that! It's even got me tempted...

Yesss. If anything, more WKL made means a better chance at finding one aftermarket :eek:


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Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:05:20
Here is the engraving!

(https://i.imgur.com/l8RTtJC.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/mpvvCGc.png)

I think it stays true to V1 but keeps it elegant.

Also confirms the quantity which I'm sure a few will be glad to see.

Thoughts? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: DJSwayde on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:14:55
Very nice, Xondat. I actually prefer this weight to the one on the first X60s.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:55:09
anime waifus engraving when
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:56:21
Looks very simple and classy Xondat. Absolutely zero complaints (except if I can’t get one ;) )


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Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:59:11
Here is the engraving!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/l8RTtJC.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mpvvCGc.png)


I think it stays true to V1 but keeps it elegant.

Also confirms the quantity which I'm sure a few will be glad to see.

Thoughts? ;D

Looks great! Dibs on #13 :)
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xine007 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:01:15
I like this engraving more than R1 actually. Looks great  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: dyrdevil on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:08:40
I love it, elegant and classy. Strong

Not to rush you, xondat, but do you have a ballpark idea of price?  I tried looking through the r1 thread but I’m still curious.

The Ares buy is closing soon, but this would be my first choice if I can afford it (and if I get a spot...!)
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:39:29
Glad it's going down well :-*

Looks great! Dibs on #13 :)

They won't be individually numbered :'( A lot of work, especially when I want to keep it simple.

Not to rush you, xondat, but do you have a ballpark idea of price?  I tried looking through the r1 thread but I’m still curious.

The Ares buy is closing soon, but this would be my first choice if I can afford it (and if I get a spot...!)

Completely understandable :)

I think $370-380 will be an achievable price with 20. This will be without a PCB, but I'll be able to provide a $30 QMK USB-C PCB.

Extra plates would be about $30 depending on the material, and US shipping $50ish for DHL Express.

E: Also I'm aware Ares closes 17th and CLS 31st. I'm not sure I'll be able to start before the 17th, but definitely before CLS. Hoping this week, just got a couple of small things to do.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:45:12
Why you gotta make such nice looking boards at Xondat. I kept telling myself I’d wait, but I wants it lol. At least as long as the colors are interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: lunr on Mon, 15 January 2018, 19:01:19
Damn that price is high.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 15 January 2018, 19:23:07
Damn that price is high.

Is it? It’s a little higher than usual (normally can do $350). The low quantity doesn’t help :'(

Out of interest, what were you expecting?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 15 January 2018, 19:55:42
Damn that price is high.

Is it? It’s a little higher than usual (normally can do $350). The low quantity doesn’t help :'(

Out of interest, what were you expecting?

Seems in range to me.

The Ares is surprisingly cheap at $300, but this seems more comparable to the LZ c x h which is 385, though that includes a bag. He also adds PayPal fees.

That said, it seems pretty normal to me, especially given the batch size and options. What was the original? Like 350 right?

Something you should consider is making this run WKL only if that will reduce price any. Wouldn’t be good for me, but that seems to be where the most interest is, and cheaper keyboards for everyone is always a good thing.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: lunr on Mon, 15 January 2018, 22:11:41
Maybe like $360? I'm not complaining or anything, just a bit surprised.

Damn that price is high.

Is it? It’s a little higher than usual (normally can do $350). The low quantity doesn’t help :'(

Out of interest, what were you expecting?


Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: kmba on Mon, 15 January 2018, 22:42:54
Yeah the more I look at wkl 60% the more I want.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: boxfrommoon on Tue, 16 January 2018, 02:01:54
If there has been major interest for WKL version would you consider making this WKL only run? Maybe it could bring the price down a little. $370-380 without PCB sounds little pricey. Out of all 60% options at the moment your board is definitely the one I'm the most interested in. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: Liocer on Tue, 16 January 2018, 03:36:47
If there has been major interest for WKL version would you consider making this WKL only run? Maybe it could bring the price down a little. $370-380 without PCB sounds little pricey. Out of all 60% options at the moment your board is definitely the one I'm the most interested in. Keep up the good work!
Well I saw a graph yesterday, HHKB is more than half so... I doubt a WKL only run makes sense.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 16 January 2018, 04:02:29
If there has been major interest for WKL version would you consider making this WKL only run? Maybe it could bring the price down a little. $370-380 without PCB sounds little pricey. Out of all 60% options at the moment your board is definitely the one I'm the most interested in. Keep up the good work!
Well I saw a graph yesterday, HHKB is more than half so... I doubt a WKL only run makes sense.

I think a lot of it is just that there are lots of hhkb options. This is just about the only wkl one. It’s only 20 boards anyway and it COULD help pricing.

Don’t get me wrong. I myself would want hhkb, but I can always wait for R2 and there are plenty of alternatives.

I wouldn’t be mad if he chose WKL only just to lower costs and put more of them out there for people who care. TBH I might try for one even though I probably wouldn’t use it much just cause it is a nice look.

Regardless. There will be more than enough interest no matter what he picks.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: Liocer on Tue, 16 January 2018, 04:20:54
If there has been major interest for WKL version would you consider making this WKL only run? Maybe it could bring the price down a little. $370-380 without PCB sounds little pricey. Out of all 60% options at the moment your board is definitely the one I'm the most interested in. Keep up the good work!
Well I saw a graph yesterday, HHKB is more than half so... I doubt a WKL only run makes sense.

I think a lot of it is just that there are lots of hhkb options. This is just about the only wkl one. It’s only 20 boards anyway and it COULD help pricing.

Don’t get me wrong. I myself would want hhkb, but I can always wait for R2 and there are plenty of alternatives.

I wouldn’t be mad if he chose WKL only just to lower costs and put more of them out there for people who care. TBH I might try for one even though I probably wouldn’t use it much just cause it is a nice look.

Regardless. There will be more than enough interest no matter what he picks.

I hadn't thought about that and it's a fair point...
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: jjanssen1 on Tue, 16 January 2018, 04:51:42
TBH a HHKB only run would make a fair amount of sense.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 January 2018, 08:06:33
The only thing that makes sense would be to remove 60% as there are only about 8 wanting it vs the much higher amounts for HHKB/WKL. I’m not sure this would affect the price as much as anybody wants it to though.

If the price is too high for a small group of people, there is still plenty of demand so I’m not sure. Of course I’d love to run this at $300 or something but it just isn’t realistic.

It may be worth assessing what to keep/remove after people get in. If there are 10 HHKB, 9 WKL, and 1 60% then I wouldn’t really want to run a 60% top.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 January 2018, 09:34:53
Thought I posted it here but turns out I didn't.

The split from the form is as follows:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: kmba on Tue, 16 January 2018, 09:53:19
I'd switch my ic entry from hhkb to wkl.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: boxfrommoon on Tue, 16 January 2018, 10:06:00
The only thing that makes sense would be to remove 60% as there are only about 8 wanting it vs the much higher amounts for HHKB/WKL. I’m not sure this would affect the price as much as anybody wants it to though.

If the price is too high for a small group of people, there is still plenty of demand so I’m not sure. Of course I’d love to run this at $300 or something but it just isn’t realistic.

It may be worth assessing what to keep/remove after people get in. If there are 10 HHKB, 9 WKL, and 1 60% then I wouldn’t really want to run a 60% top.

No worries! I will still be trying out my luck and hope to have a chance to get that beautiful WKL version.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 16 January 2018, 16:07:35
Consider the unlikely: removing the brass weight may reduce the price a bit? That must be an awful tradeoff to a lot of people but hey you get to carry your X60 around more easily.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 16 January 2018, 16:18:15
Consider the unlikely: removing the brass weight may reduce the price a bit? That must be an awful tradeoff to a lot of people but hey you get to carry your X60 around more easily.

That would take away from the OG aesthetics though :O
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 January 2018, 16:30:47
Consider the unlikely: removing the brass weight may reduce the price a bit? That must be an awful tradeoff to a lot of people but hey you get to carry your X60 around more easily.

I would rather run a lightweight version, but that takes away from the main feature :))

If I can't fill the 20 slots, I'll consider a few things.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 00:08:31
Should be able to start the GB this Saturday the 20th, and have a 6 hour raffle between 2PM - 8PM EST. Pricing @ 20 would be $370 + $30 additional plates + $30 optional PCB (if there is interest).

Options available:

Case:
Plates:
* Unconfirmed but likely.

Any thoughts? Planning on joining? Hate everything about it? LMK :))

Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20?)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 17 January 2018, 00:11:02
Should be able to start the GB this Saturday the 20th, and have a 6 hour raffle between 2PM - 8PM EST. Pricing @ 20 would be $370 + $30 additional plates + $30 optional PCB (if there is interest).

Options available:

Case:
  • HHKB/WKL/60*
  • Black/Dark Gray/Silver
Plates:
  • Singular layout (https://i.imgur.com/4J8UCxw.png)
  • Aluminum - Black/Dark Gray/Silver/Red
  • Stainless Steel - Horizontal Brushed*
  • Brass - Mirror Polish*
* Unconfirmed but likely.

Any thoughts? Planning on joining? Hate everything about it? LMK :))

Sounds like a plan! In for an HHKB. I can't make my mind up on which colors to choose from though x__x
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20?)
Post by: dyrdevil on Wed, 17 January 2018, 00:30:07
Should be able to start the GB this Saturday the 20th, and have a 6 hour raffle between 2PM - 8PM EST. Pricing @ 20 would be $370 + $30 additional plates + $30 optional PCB (if there is interest).

Options available:

Case:
  • HHKB/WKL/60*
  • Black/Dark Gray/Silver
Plates:
  • Singular layout (https://i.imgur.com/4J8UCxw.png)
  • Aluminum - Black/Dark Gray/Silver/Red
  • Stainless Steel - Horizontal Brushed*
  • Brass - Mirror Polish*
* Unconfirmed but likely.

Any thoughts? Planning on joining? Hate everything about it? LMK :))

I'm hoping I can snag a spot.  I haven't built a kb before and love your work.  The price is okay, if the extra plates were a little cheaper it'd be easier to purchase more than one;) 
Will you (or someone) outline how the raffle works? 

Thanks for all of your work!
dyrdevil
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 00:36:23
I'm hoping I can snag a spot.  I haven't built a kb before and love your work.  The price is okay, if the extra plates were a little cheaper it'd be easier to purchase more than one;) 
Will you (or someone) outline how the raffle works? 

Thanks for all of your work!
dyrdevil

Thank you! Not sure the plates will be lower :(

The raffle will be quite simple: fill in the form as you would normally with a normal group buy, and when it's closed, I'll send a message to the winners & then invoice. Unpaid invoices will be reraffled.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: olieatstofu on Wed, 17 January 2018, 01:17:29
ITT with a plain brass plate I would have definitely been in, maybe closer to the time Ill decide I need a high quality WKL 60% over anything else though...
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 01:25:37
ITT with a plain brass plate I would have definitely been in, maybe closer to the time Ill decide I need a high quality WKL 60% over anything else though...

As in not mirror finish?

It could be sand blasted but I forgot what is possible so I’m confirming. What would you be looking for?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: RealLaugh on Wed, 17 January 2018, 01:31:40
I'm hoping I can snag a spot.  I haven't built a kb before and love your work.  The price is okay, if the extra plates were a little cheaper it'd be easier to purchase more than one;) 
Will you (or someone) outline how the raffle works? 

Thanks for all of your work!
dyrdevil

Thank you! Not sure the plates will be lower :(

The raffle will be quite simple: fill in the form as you would normally with a normal group buy, and when it's closed, I'll send a message to the winners & then invoice. Unpaid invoices will be reraffled.

Raffle link will be posted in a separate GB thread am I right?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Engraving Pictures)
Post by: subcat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 01:56:40
Damn that price is high.

Is it? It’s a little higher than usual (normally can do $350). The low quantity doesn’t help :'(

Out of interest, what were you expecting?

Seems in range to me.

The Ares is surprisingly cheap at $300, but this seems more comparable to the LZ c x h which is 385, though that includes a bag. He also adds PayPal fees.

That said, it seems pretty normal to me, especially given the batch size and options. What was the original? Like 350 right?

Something you should consider is making this run WKL only if that will reduce price any. Wouldn’t be good for me, but that seems to be where the most interest is, and cheaper keyboards for everyone is always a good thing.
c x h is done in korea too
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 02:10:13
Hmmm... with the limited colors, maybe I will have to finally make myself get a silver board. I know they look nice but I can’t seem to get myself to buy one, but for some reason I think this boxy style will look especially good in silver.

Someday someone will make my navy keyboard, or I’ll eventually just do it myself lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 17 January 2018, 02:32:29
Hmmm... with the limited colors, maybe I will have to finally make myself get a silver board. I know they look nice but I can’t seem to get myself to buy one, but for some reason I think this boxy style will look especially good in silver.

Someday someone will make my navy keyboard, or I’ll eventually just do it myself lol.

Grab an unandoized LZ CLS x H and make some history  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 03:20:03
Hmmm... with the limited colors, maybe I will have to finally make myself get a silver board. I know they look nice but I can’t seem to get myself to buy one, but for some reason I think this boxy style will look especially good in silver.

Someday someone will make my navy keyboard, or I’ll eventually just do it myself lol.

Grab an unandoized LZ CLS x H and make some history  :thumb:

TBH, if I actually knew a decent anode shop, I might consider getting a raw one, but I doubt I'd go with navy for that. If I'm gonna go full custom, I'm gonna do something way more unique than that. Like burgundy or a nice forest green. Someone will eventually make a navy case, and I suppose I could go with the cu66, but I'm not sold on it cause its huge, even if it does look nice.

All I know is this looks real naic:

(https://i.imgur.com/GZIfuoi.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: olieatstofu on Wed, 17 January 2018, 06:19:31
ITT with a plain brass plate I would have definitely been in, maybe closer to the time Ill decide I need a high quality WKL 60% over anything else though...

As in not mirror finish?

It could be sand blasted but I forgot what is possible so I’m confirming. What would you be looking for?

just without a engraving
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:05:57
Raffle link will be posted in a separate GB thread am I right?

Yes, just waiting to be approved.

Hmmm... with the limited colors, maybe I will have to finally make myself get a silver board. I know they look nice but I can’t seem to get myself to buy one, but for some reason I think this boxy style will look especially good in silver.

Someday someone will make my navy keyboard, or I’ll eventually just do it myself lol.

Don't see why navy won't be a problem as we're doing it for 268. Got to find the balance between too little and too much.

Grab an unandoized LZ CLS x H and make some history  :thumb:

What about an X60 R unanodized? :'(

ITT with a plain brass plate I would have definitely been in, maybe closer to the time Ill decide I need a high quality WKL 60% over anything else though...

As in not mirror finish?

It could be sand blasted but I forgot what is possible so I’m confirming. What would you be looking for?

just without a engraving

Oh I see. Engraving is here to stay on the weight. Would be boring without it.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:13:53
Raffle link will be posted in a separate GB thread am I right?

Yes, just waiting to be approved.

Hmmm... with the limited colors, maybe I will have to finally make myself get a silver board. I know they look nice but I can’t seem to get myself to buy one, but for some reason I think this boxy style will look especially good in silver.

Someday someone will make my navy keyboard, or I’ll eventually just do it myself lol.

Don't see why navy won't be a problem as we're doing it for 268. Got to find the balance between too little and too much.

Grab an unandoized LZ CLS x H and make some history  :thumb:

What about an X60 R unanodized? :'(

ITT with a plain brass plate I would have definitely been in, maybe closer to the time Ill decide I need a high quality WKL 60% over anything else though...

As in not mirror finish?

It could be sand blasted but I forgot what is possible so I’m confirming. What would you be looking for?

just without a engraving

Oh I see. Engraving is here to stay on the weight. Would be boring without it.

Oh dang! Didn't think you'd allow it as its not an option. If I knew of a good place locally, I'd def try and have this done in white (MAO)!

Edit: If a raw option were available, would going over it with a clear coat spray suffice in keeping the aesthetic?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:33:14
Oh dang! Didn't think you'd allow it as its not an option. If I knew of a good place locally, I'd def try and have this done in white (MAO)!

Edit: If a raw option were available, would going over it with a clear coat spray suffice in keeping the aesthetic?

I forgot to add it but a couple requested it and it's pretty easy to organize/do.

No point doing a clear coat unless you want a more polished surface. I'm sure you know silver anodizing is just clear anodizing.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:43:25
Oh dang! Didn't think you'd allow it as its not an option. If I knew of a good place locally, I'd def try and have this done in white (MAO)!

Edit: If a raw option were available, would going over it with a clear coat spray suffice in keeping the aesthetic?

I forgot to add it but a couple requested it and it's pretty easy to organize/do.

No point doing a clear coat unless you want a more polished surface. I'm sure you know silver anodizing is just clear anodizing.

What color will you be getting for yourself xondat?
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:45:14
Oh dang! Didn't think you'd allow it as its not an option. If I knew of a good place locally, I'd def try and have this done in white (MAO)!

Edit: If a raw option were available, would going over it with a clear coat spray suffice in keeping the aesthetic?

I forgot to add it but a couple requested it and it's pretty easy to organize/do.

No point doing a clear coat unless you want a more polished surface. I'm sure you know silver anodizing is just clear anodizing.

What color will you be getting for yourself xondat?

I won't be :'(

If I could, then probably Dark Gray WKL.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: profanum429 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 17:40:14
Any thoughts on doing multiple tops with a single bottom piece (like get 1 HHKB and 1 WKL with only.1 bottom piece)? :D I know it's a longshot but figured I'd ask!
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 17:52:39
Any thoughts on doing multiple tops with a single bottom piece (like get 1 HHKB and 1 WKL with only.1 bottom piece)? :D I know it's a longshot but figured I'd ask!

Hmm... Not sure yet. Preferably not, but it's been constantly requested between V1 and this.
Title: Re: [IC] Noxary X60 R (Group Buy 1/20)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 January 2018, 17:54:43
GB thread approved, please discuss there :-*

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93572