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Offline Brammm87

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 03:31:56 »
Very, VERY interested in this one.
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 03:56:44 »
How similar ist this thing to the original? Would i it be possible to get the plate and pcb of this and fumble it into the original plastic case?

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 04:42:21 »
M0110 is just sexy

Would definitely get one if this launches in Dec,2017 or Jan,2018. Right now i am just broke AF :( :(

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 07:25:22 »
i know this is already heavy, but any chance of a weight? haha

/u/heroyjenkins here (different username on GH): probably not going to have a weight. This thing is going to be a couple kilos without a dedicated weight (it's cheaper to machine by leaving in a lot of the bulk since the manufacture method substracts material) so it would be way overkill to add an extra weight on top.

Oh trust me, I know it's overkill haha. No worries on it though, gonna be in this buy anyway, since it's a killer design imo.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:21:24 »
Interested

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:55:59 »
Navy Blue as color option pls!

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:11:04 »
Ugh, can't decide between this and the Ares. Leaning towards this though, love the design of the m0110. Any idea when the GB will launch?
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:32:21 »
Cerakote beige pls
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 14:46:25 »
This looks amazing! If the price is around $200-$250 dollars I am 100% in.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 15:39:03 »
I'm in! This look very nice, can wait to see the protoype :) !
               

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 18:28:24 »
This is the case I've been waiting for!!!

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 18:56:55 »
Stunning! Slight wrinkle powder coat finish in a light cool grey would be the bee's knees!

Also thinking the same finish but in a Cherry beige to match GMK retro sets.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 05:29:42 »
Beige is a must on the list for sure, although I was more looking at a rough powder coat like the Norbeaur Galaxy Console finish.

That would be beyond fantastic - since you mentioned Norbauer's beautiful work, if I am allowed a selfish suggestion/request, I'd love to see a straight neon/bubblegum pink akin his Venice Beach colourway since I need a case in that colour for Laser. Even the Exent's pink turned out to be rather on point - http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg

Oh and great job with the packaging, that's very cool and I hope you make it in time to have it sent over to the meet up!

PS: would the main "hub" for the buy be, once again, Mykeyboard like it was for 9009?

ZOMG, I'd buy the **** out of this in that Venice Beach pink. Maybe even an extra to gift to a friend if my wallet has enough to rebound before the GB :P. I totally agree, that would look amazing with laser. do want.

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[IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 08:12:00 »
Man all these cool customs I see on here and no way for me to justify spending that much on a board :/

Looks awesome OP!


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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 17:17:14 »
I'm liking the look of this a lot more than the retro 60, too bad its getting to that time of the year, where I like spending money on other people and not just myself.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 18:18:04 »
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Let me introduce you to a project me and /u/heroyjenkins have been working on the past few months, the Modern M0110. A modern take on the legendary board Steve Jobs himself designed to go with the original Macintosh, it has sure left its footprint on the community. Not only are people still working on retrofitting modern components in to it to this day, it also inspired Eiiti Wada to design the legendary HHKB. Combining the best of old-school looks and modern typing comfort, this board is sure to convince both your fingers and your eyes.

Machining
It will be milled out of solid aluminium, weighing the board in at +3kg unbuilt! The top-mounted plate will be available in different materials for optimal typing comfort. The case will be compatible with 60% PCBs like the GH60.

Finishing
We're looking into multiple finishes, from the standard anodising to powder coating and more. Suggestions are always welcome.

Pricing
This is a big one obviously, the model is fairly complex for a keyboard and it uses a hell of a lot of material. Shipping will also be quite costly considering the weight. The price point we're looking at right now will be quite competitive, however, we want to wait until we have our prototype in hand before we say anything final. As it is right now, pricing for a anodised model included plate will be in the low $200-300 range for sure. The prototype is expected to arrive in less than a week  :)

Shipping
As for shipping, I'll be sure to hit up some familiar faces from the 9009 GB. I hope I can prove again that it's possible to get a nice keyboard related item without giving your life savings to customs  ;D

To-do
  • Finish up on design
  • Order prototype
  • Evaluate prototype
  • Launch GB

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My goodness. While I would love beige...

If you offer this in red or dark purple anode, I’m in!

Will extra plates/brass plates be an option?
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Offline cdn-mini

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 20:24:44 »
Another 60%?? is there that much demand?

Offline saucybulgogi

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 20:31:48 »
I’d say this one is pretty unique compared to other recent offerings


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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 23:03:08 »
Interested, amazing board.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 01:56:53 »
I'm also in for this one.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 03:07:43 »
Another 60%?? is there that much demand?

That is why this is called an interest check — to check interest.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 04:39:01 »
Another 60%?? is there that much demand?

60% is life :p ! I had 60, tkl, full, clearly love the 60%, found this very “balanced” . Fancy 65% and other layout can be less effective or very complicated to fit with a given keyset :o ! At the end I think a lot of people love hhkb and gh60 layout :)
               

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 06:15:20 »
My wallet is ready, just let me at it. Don't hold me back!

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 07:57:52 »
Need this for SA Retro PETSCII edition :thumb:

Offline robbles

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 10:17:39 »
Looks pretty uncomfortable to type on. How wide are the bezels, and how tall is it?

This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.
How does one become so interested in a thing like keyboards? When you realize you use a keyboard more than any other tool in your life.

Offline Zobeid Zuma

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 11:29:39 »
This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.

I was under the impression that ergonomic "best practice" is to hold your hands above the keyboard and not rest your wrist or palm on anything, and that the ideal angle for the keyboard is actually 0 degrees flat, or possibly even a negative angle.  That presumes you have your desk set up at the appropriate height, of course.





But when it comes to our mechanical keyboard community, I've been surprised at many have never even learned to touch type.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 11:35:42 »
This is my primary concern as well. The height makes it look awkward to type on without a wrist rest. And the size of the front bezel makes it look uncomfortable to type on with a wrist rest. Also 7deg seems pretty flat. Don't mean to be a downer though because everything else about it looks great. Excited to see photos of the prototype.

I was under the impression that ergonomic "best practice" is to hold your hands above the keyboard and not rest your wrist or palm on anything, and that the ideal angle for the keyboard is actually 0 degrees flat, or possibly even a negative angle.  That presumes you have your desk set up at the appropriate height, of course.

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But when it comes to our mechanical keyboard community, I've been surprised at many have never even learned to touch type.

True, but for those of us who wrest their hands on the home row pretty much all day, the wrist rest brings your hands up to a comfortable wresting position and makes it easier to lift your wrists when you are actively typing.
How does one become so interested in a thing like keyboards? When you realize you use a keyboard more than any other tool in your life.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 15:21:45 »
Oh please, with wrist rest or without I need one of those cases!


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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:38:17 »
I would be in for one of these if you could keep it around $200-$250. I've been waiting for something with a bezel like this. it would be awesome if you could make Alps compatible plates to go along with it. Beautiful!
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 11 November 2017, 14:46:34 »
Definitely interested in this if you can keep it within the projected price range.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 11 November 2017, 16:54:15 »
So the GB would only be for the case which includes a plate? If there is a PCB planned a case-only option would be available though?
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 16:52:51 »
Count me in!

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:16:35 »
Got to handle this beast at the Palo Alto meetup...one of the few times I picked up and felt a keyboard while grinning from ear to ear.
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:55:34 »
How similar ist this thing to the original? Would i it be possible to get the plate and pcb of this and fumble it into the original plastic case?

The cutout for the keycaps is not quite the same because the vintage keyboard and modern 60% keyboards are not exactly the same dimensions so I wouldn't recommend this. But we will be open sourcing the plate design later so you can always work from that if you want for some custom projects.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:56:29 »
Cerakote beige pls

Yeah hoping to have a cerakote beige prototype in a couple weeks ;)

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 23:58:08 »
Got to handle this beast at the Palo Alto meetup...one of the few times I picked up and felt a keyboard while grinning from ear to ear.

Thanks for trying it out and for the feedback :D

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 13 November 2017, 04:53:19 »
I am in if this supports alps. Can we get a confirmation that this will be alps compatible, and support a Hasu alps PCB?

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 13 November 2017, 06:03:16 »
Count me in! I am looking for a case for my futur ZEAL60 RGB, I think this could be my end game !  :p
               

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 13 November 2017, 07:28:34 »
Any updates on the proto?

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 04:59:41 »
Does the space bar will be a 7u or 6.25u on this? I would love to fit my dasher sa om this but I only have a 6.25u space bar for it :o !
               

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #90 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:15:52 »
I need this in beige

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:31:55 »
I need this in beige
I want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:32:20 »
Cerakote beige pls

Yeah hoping to have a cerakote beige prototype in a couple weeks ;)

$200-250...and cerakote?

This keeps getting better and better.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:37:41 »
I need this in beige
I want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.
Yeah man, good old beige plastic would be a dream come true. I've got G20 Semiotic lined up ready to go! Please!

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:41:25 »
I need this in beige
I want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.

It isn't realistic to make/perfect molds as you'll need to use injection (like keycaps). Far too expensive for little return. Makes sense if you're making hundreds/thousands, but most aren't.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 14:03:46 »
I need this in beige
I want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.

The very simple reason is economics. Each set of injection mould dies cost a few tens of thousands of dollars to make, when you factor in the cost of design and test, it can easily get into the 6 figure range. Injection moulding die design is a whole engineering discipline in itself, and it ain't easy or cheap to design dies that will function properly as well as produce parts that fit together post-mould (taking into account shrinkage, distortion, sprues removal and such). Speaking from experience, even parts you spend a few hundred thousand quids designing/verifying and producing aren't necessarily perfect (and believe me, fixing them cost a pretty penny, even at moderate production numbers of around 7-8000 units per annum).

Simply put, unless you're gonna pump these things out by the absolute ****load (tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands units per annum), it just isn't economically feasible to do, especially considering the size of this niche. This is also the same reason that once you produce a working case design, it's sometimes cheaper to stick with it across product lines and design future products based on those instead of making new designs. Just look at Cherry and their G80 line of cases which is common across Cherry MX and MY variants.
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 14:56:04 »
Thanks for the answers! It all makes sense now :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 15:28:07 »
Retro60 is also designed base on the look of M0110

I know, but I personally would consider this to be a nicer interpretation if I do say so myself  :p. Flat vs angled, tray mount vs top mount, ..... We are looking at a similar pricepoint though ;)

The Retro60 does not features the corner blockers, thus, this is a more faithful replica to the original.

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 00:05:04 »
I need this in beige
I want this in a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Side note: Any real reason why most custom cases are aluminum? Is it something with ease of manufacturing or do most people looking at customs want the "premium" feel that aluminum brings? A really nice quality plastic case could be great, especially if it was offered in colors and finishes that aren't possible with metal.

The very simple reason is economics. Each set of injection mould dies cost a few tens of thousands of dollars to make, when you factor in the cost of design and test, it can easily get into the 6 figure range. Injection moulding die design is a whole engineering discipline in itself, and it ain't easy or cheap to design dies that will function properly as well as produce parts that fit together post-mould (taking into account shrinkage, distortion, sprues removal and such). Speaking from experience, even parts you spend a few hundred thousand quids designing/verifying and producing aren't necessarily perfect (and believe me, fixing them cost a pretty penny, even at moderate production numbers of around 7-8000 units per annum).

Simply put, unless you're gonna pump these things out by the absolute ****load (tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands units per annum), it just isn't economically feasible to do, especially considering the size of this niche. This is also the same reason that once you produce a working case design, it's sometimes cheaper to stick with it across product lines and design future products based on those instead of making new designs. Just look at Cherry and their G80 line of cases which is common across Cherry MX and MY variants.
Totally makes sense, and honestly the 3kg weight estimate sounds pretty incredible. It will be a brick of a board like no other. It really should be called roadblock :D

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Re: [IC] Modern M0110
« Reply #99 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 16:40:12 »
If a non HHKB top piece does get added, I can safely say I am 100% on this.
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