[GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios

[Zeal]

Hey guys, R9 GB is now live and we're happy to introduce our new Zilent Tactile switches! The stems a blue shade and modeled after our Zealios, with added doubleshot rubber dampeners to decrease the noise from each keypress without feeling mushy/squishy. Bottom out is solid and quiet, without any noticeable reduction in travel.

GB pricing will end Jan 15, 2018 at 23:59 PST. After then, the pricing will be upped to pre-order/retail rates. Projected shipping for the buy is end of January-early February.


Click the images for links to the site!

Zilents $0.90:


Tealios $0.75:


Zealios $0.75:


Zeal60 Rev3 RGB LED PCB $120:
Everything factory pre-soldered. Users only need to bridge a few jumpers and solder switches. Rev 3 will feature a gold plated Mini USB connector and will have a dark purple finish to it, with black edges.


Zeal Transparent Stabilizers V2 $30+:


Zealencio Silencing Clips $45+:



Cheers,

Zeal

[Zeal]

Feb 2
Received 1/3 bulk shipments, Shipping Zealios/stabilizers

Feb 6
Expected to receive 2/3 bulk shipments, Zilents

Feb 8
Expected to receive 3/3 bulk shipments, Zilents

[HoffmanMyster]

Approval bump   

Might be worth mentioning on this page about the GB discount and any other related details 

[KaosJ]

Approval bump   

Might be worth mentioning on this page about the GB discount and any other related details 

What discount?

[wholypantalones]

GB pricing will end Dec 15, 2017

Might want to update that.

[HoffmanMyster]

Approval bump   

Might be worth mentioning on this page about the GB discount and any other related details 

What discount?

Clicking through to the store page has this info:

GB pricing will remain until Jan 15, 2018 11:59PM (PST). After then, pricing will be adjusted to pre-order pricing until the switches have arrived. Projecting shipping time frame is February, 2018.

If there weren't GB reduced pricing on these, the whole thread would have to be in Zeal's vendor space, rather than the GB subforum.

[Mr_BeastQuake]

Them Zilents are enticing...

[KaosJ]

Approval bump   

Might be worth mentioning on this page about the GB discount and any other related details 

What discount?

Clicking through to the store page has this info:

GB pricing will remain until Jan 15, 2018 11:59PM (PST). After then, pricing will be adjusted to pre-order pricing until the switches have arrived. Projecting shipping time frame is February, 2018.

If there weren't GB reduced pricing on these, the whole thread would have to be in Zeal's vendor space, rather than the GB subforum.

Make sense! 

[Zeal]

GB pricing will end Dec 15, 2017

Might want to update that.

Woops, updated.
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Thanks Hoff

[Auchindoun]

Do the Zilents produce the same effect as the R9 Zealencio Silencing Clips, without needing them?

[Puddsy]

Do the Zilents produce the same effect as the R9 Zealencio Silencing Clips, without needing them?

sort of?

it's hard to explain, they reduce different kinds of noise

but using both would be redundant for sure

[Auchindoun]

Do the Zilents produce the same effect as the R9 Zealencio Silencing Clips, without needing them?

sort of?

it's hard to explain, they reduce different kinds of noise

but using both would be redundant for sure

hmm, okay. i have a real issue with bottoming out, so i eventually got clears. but switching from work to home over and over clears just feel too heavy now. my friend has the linear zeals with the silencing clips and they were amazing to type on, so im wondering which route i go as im building a new keeb pretty soon.

[Puddsy]

Do the Zilents produce the same effect as the R9 Zealencio Silencing Clips, without needing them?

sort of?

it's hard to explain, they reduce different kinds of noise

but using both would be redundant for sure

hmm, okay. i have a real issue with bottoming out, so i eventually got clears. but switching from work to home over and over clears just feel too heavy now. my friend has the linear zeals with the silencing clips and they were amazing to type on, so im wondering which route i go as im building a new keeb pretty soon.

if you tried linears with clips and liked it, then i'd recommend doing that

[KaosJ]

Do the Zilents produce the same effect as the R9 Zealencio Silencing Clips, without needing them?

For Cherry Silent, the mechanism makes the feel much better and different from a QMX/Zealencio clip (and zilents are supposed to have more or less the same mechanism of a Cherry silent).         

Clips are usually mushy and even on Cherry profile they are not really a stable thing, basically every/some row will sound different with clips.  While with the silenced switch you still feel the thock but is a silenced thock, the same on every raw/switch, that is imho good. 

In general, no they can't produce the same effect and a silenced switch is always better of a clip, without even saying that the Clips are supposed to fully work only on Cherry profile keycaps (bottomout + upstroke) while only on upstroke for other profiles.  Neither same sound/feel or whatever you mean.  A silenced switch is always better than a clip. 


Using both yeah is redundant like Puddsy said. 

[AlexG]

How similar are Zilents in terms of typing to feel to switches with Zealencios on them?

[child]

Did you actually read just the 2 messages above yours?

[OfTheWild]

Just wanted to see about timeframe - i know you're usually spot on for this but i want to make sure these will show up in time for the March 3rd meetup.

[Zeal]

Just wanted to see about timeframe - i know you're usually spot on for this but i want to make sure these will show up in time for the March 3rd meetup.

Expected to arrive end of January. Will start shipping asap and finish around early Feb.

[Data]

Awesome.  Can't wait to try the Zilents.

[OfTheWild]

Just wanted to see about timeframe - i know you're usually spot on for this but i want to make sure these will show up in time for the March 3rd meetup.

Expected to arrive end of January. Will start shipping asap and finish around early Feb.

Awesome, man... i cant wait to show these off in my m65a!

[luke.hoggett]

any further update on when we can expect the switches to ship?

[Zeal]

Received one of three bulk shipments on Friday. Mostly Zealios & stabilizers, been packing those over the weekend.

Half of the Zilents were shipped out Monday, expected to arrive Tuesday (tomorrow). Remaining batch should be shipped out Wednesday, delivering Thursday.

[Mr_BeastQuake]

Excellent.

[luke.hoggett]

Received one of three bulk shipments on Friday. Mostly Zealios & stabilizers, been packing those over the weekend.

Half of the Zilents were shipped out Monday, expected to arrive Tuesday (tomorrow). Remaining batch should be shipped out Wednesday, delivering Thursday.

fantastic. haven’t received the PCBs for my build yet, only have the controllers. Sounds like everything should be coming around the same time.

[umalip]

Received one of three bulk shipments on Friday. Mostly Zealios & stabilizers, been packing those over the weekend.

Half of the Zilents were shipped out Monday, expected to arrive Tuesday (tomorrow). Remaining batch should be shipped out Wednesday, delivering Thursday.

Zeal, does this include if I purchased from your website?

[AlexG]

Got my shipping notification! Can't wait to try these Zilents.

[Zeal]

Received one of three bulk shipments on Friday. Mostly Zealios & stabilizers, been packing those over the weekend.

Half of the Zilents were shipped out Monday, expected to arrive Tuesday (tomorrow). Remaining batch should be shipped out Wednesday, delivering Thursday.

Zeal, does this include if I purchased from your website?

If you placed an order now, you'd be at the end of the queue in fulfillment, but it would still be part of R9.

[Mr_BeastQuake]

Want zilents for 910. I hope they pwn

[umalip]

Received one of three bulk shipments on Friday. Mostly Zealios & stabilizers, been packing those over the weekend.

Half of the Zilents were shipped out Monday, expected to arrive Tuesday (tomorrow). Remaining batch should be shipped out Wednesday, delivering Thursday.

Zeal, does this include if I purchased from your website?

If you placed an order now, you'd be at the end of the queue in fulfillment, but it would still be part of R9.

Thanks for the update and reply, I made my order via your website on 1/10/2018!

[MajorKoos]

I installed some 67g Zilents in my LZ Ergo last night and I'm totally stoked with the results.
Silent Tealios next?

[heckenjoni]

if i buy silent zealios today what date will they ship ? rly hyped !

[Zeal]

if i buy silent zealios today what date will they ship ? rly hyped !

Roughly 1.5-2 weeks from today.

[AlexG]

Hope you don't mind me posting this here. Made a quick simple video comparing noise. The Esc key is using a Zilent 62g while everything else is using a standard Zealios 62g. Sounds pretty similar to having a full Zealencio on the switch.

[Data]

Hope you don't mind me posting this here. Made a quick simple video comparing noise. The Esc key is using a Zilent 62g while everything else is using a standard Zealios 62g. Sounds pretty similar to having a full Zealencio on the switch.

Awesome.  Thanks for sharing this.

[eeymiel]

Can I swap stems from zilents into a zealio (or other switch), so I don't have to desolder all switches?

[AlexG]

Can I swap stems from zilents into a zealio (or other switch), so I don't have to desolder all switches?

If your plate supports top switch removal

[tlautrec]

Hi sorry for the noob questions buy may I know what's the difference between the 65g zealios and the 65g zealios, transparent top, milky bottom switches under the R9 group buy menu for zealios? Are they all from R9?

[hndle]

Oh my God...
Is it true that there are only 5 Zealios r9 switches left?
I'm too late.

[Zeal]

Currently about 60% done packing the GB, seems we're short a few dozen sets of transparent stabilizer housings... Wires are there, but a shortage on the plastic parts

This will delay those that have purchased a transparent screw in stabilizer set. Very sorry for the inconvenience, we'll get these parts produced asap once CNY is over.

[garvik]

Aw, bummer.
I guess good things come to those who wait

[MikeTheTiger]

Currently about 60% done packing the GB, seems we're short a few dozen sets of transparent stabilizer housings... Wires are there, but a shortage on the plastic parts

This will delay those that have purchased a transparent screw in stabilizer set. Very sorry for the inconvenience, we'll get these parts produced asap once CNY is over.

And I was just about to order a couple of sets. 

[TechieWeirdo]

My Time TKL needs a 7u Stab....it's the last part I need to build it

[MikeTheTiger]

I know you guys are taking vacation, but if I ordered a couple of sets of stabs what’s the lead time for the parts that need to be made?

[Zeal]

I know you guys are taking vacation, but if I ordered a couple of sets of stabs what’s the lead time for the parts that need to be made?

The manufacturer is on vacation, not us.

Lead time would be around mid March for the stabilizers to be produced.

[MikeTheTiger]

I know you guys are taking vacation, but if I ordered a couple of sets of stabs what’s the lead time for the parts that need to be made?

The manufacturer is on vacation, not us.

Lead time would be around mid March for the stabilizers to be produced.

Lol. I may have to pull my screw ins off my Zeal60 for my M65A build and just order replacements. 

[eujin1994]

Received mine. Had to collect it by myself because DHL closes 2pm on my timezone today and probably take longer time to deliver to my doorstep due to their shortened working hour during CNY. On my way home. Have yet to test yet. So far this is the fastest delivery service from the US I've ever receive  Thanks Henry 

[atomicus]

How would the Zilents compare to Cherry MX Silent Reds? The MX Reds are linear I know, but curious if anyone has tried both? What are the travel distances on the Zilents?

[TastyNico]

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[Puddsy]

How would the Zilents compare to Cherry MX Silent Reds? The MX Reds are linear I know, but curious if anyone has tried both? What are the travel distances on the Zilents?

they're a bit too far removed to make a comparison i feel comfortable with

[Asbrodeus]

How would the Zilents compare to Cherry MX Silent Reds? The MX Reds are linear I know, but curious if anyone has tried both? What are the travel distances on the Zilents?

I have silent cherry blacks and 67g zilents. I would say the zilents have slightly less of the o ring rubber bottom out feel than the silent blacks so typing on them, tactile vs linear aside, is a better silent switch experience in my opinion. Not sure the actual travel distance but its not jarring on either. As another point of reference I don't enjoy using zealencio clips for the travel and gummy bottom out feel.

[Zeal]

@ZealPC

Will the R9 stabilizers be shipped prior to the R10 stabilizers or will they be shipped at the same time?

R9 stabilizer extra shipment will be coming in first, well before R10 GB happens.

[danielucf]

Wow, built my Exent with 67g Zilents. I have to say this is my new jam.

[phorx]

Wow, built my Exent with 67g Zilents. I have to say this is my new jam.

Did you lube the switches? If so, what did you use?

[Data]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

[smittysteve]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

[dubious]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho

[Puddsy]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho

m2

[Atredl]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ARADX88/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Buy this pack and you'll be set for a while. I've been using them on all screw in stabs.

[phorx]

I wonder if they make clear-ish nylon washers that are thin enough to work.

[Puddsy]

I wonder if they make clear-ish nylon washers that are thin enough to work.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Insulating-Washers-Gaskets-Fastener/dp/B01MTSK5OS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1521687862&sr=8-4&keywords=m2+nylon+washer

[Data]

Awesome suggestions.  Thanks dudes.   

McMaster has these nylon washers at only 0.5mm thickness that I think would work.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#90940a411/  Edit: Polycarb, not nylon.

But I may not need them.  Spamray is sending me a few nylon screws to use with my stabs. 

[phorx]

Awesome suggestions.  Thanks dudes.   

McMaster has these nylon washers at only 0.5mm thickness that I think would work.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#90940a411/  Edit: Polycarb, not nylon.

But I may not need them.  Spamray is sending me a few nylon screws to use with my stabs. 

Nice find! 

[MikeTheTiger]

I don’t know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows.

[whistle47]

Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.

[ayamterbang]

Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.

You may judge by the sliders design. It should be down and up.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

[Zeal]

I don’t know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows.

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There are limited layouts with what you can do with RGB LED PCBs. 2pin single colour LEDs are much more flexible with multiple layouts as the footprint is a lot smaller, and the LEDs can share a pad. RGB LEDs on the other hand are wider and if we tried to support 1u arrows on bottom, the light would be off center. That's why we have the Zephyr 65% for arrow key users. ;)

Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.

Zilents silence both upstroke and downstroke regardless of orientation or keycaps used.

[phorx]

I’m still waiting on Zeal to release a 75% or 80% kit.

[phorx]

Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

Would using these fiber washers have the same effect as the band-aid mod ?

[MikeTheTiger]

I don’t know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows.

Show Image

There are limited layouts with what you can do with RGB LED PCBs. 2pin single colour LEDs are much more flexible with multiple layouts as the footprint is a lot smaller, and the LEDs can share a pad. RGB LEDs on the other hand are wider and if we tried to support 1u arrows on bottom, the light would be off center. That's why we have the Zephyr 65% for arrow key users. ;)

I can dream, can't I?  :p

[makhuyatz]

are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

[Zeal]

are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.

[makhuyatz]

are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.

oh i see... i was watching the review of top clack on the zilents and the colors of 67g and 78g are a bit different. more pale than what is posted here.

[Zeal]

are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.

oh i see... i was watching the review of top clack on the zilents and the colors of 67g and 78g are a bit different. more pale than what is posted here.

Those were early prototypes and the colour was changed for the final production Zilents.