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[HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 05:53:46 »
HELLO dear FRIENDS,

I will build a 60% ALP board after summer and I am collecting part atm... so far I got

ALP YELLOW
PCB 60% https://imgur.com/a/uKABxgf
Keycaps I found is for ALPS but space key got cherry stab hole with ALP switch hole in the middle, see pic... https://imgur.com/a/tCodu7R

The problem I am having is I want a CAD file to the plate that will support normal ANSI layout of alp style.
The space key seems like to be 6.25u and it is only the space key who got the MX stab style while the rest got alp style of stabs.

I am really bad witch coding and 3d modeling anyone who can help me? :)

OBS! Please use normal eng I am not good with keeb advanced words... hehe

Thanks in advance!  ;D

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 08:59:33 »
Have you tried using the swillkb plate building tool (http://builder.swillkb.com) with KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com)?

You can set it to use Alps stabs by default but add "_s:2" into the curly brackets for the space key in the pasted raw data to force the cherry stab option for the spacebar.

Alternatively, try using the Taihao plate option from the Open Source 60% Alps Plates thread here on geekhack, with a costar stab on space (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82916.0). edit: which you'd already posted in 🤷
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 November 2018, 09:01:14 by garbo »

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 09:19:32 »
Hi thanks for the reply, I will try it once I get home. I wonder if original Tai Ho keycaps got the mx stabs on the space key... bcs I am getting tai ho keycaps from taobao... :)

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 09:32:33 »
Have you tried using the swillkb plate building tool (http://builder.swillkb.com) with KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com)?

You can set it to use Alps stabs by default but add "_s:2" into the curly brackets for the space key in the pasted raw data to force the cherry stab option for the spacebar.

Alternatively, try using the Taihao plate option from the Open Source 60% Alps Plates thread here on geekhack, with a costar stab on space (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82916.0). edit: which you'd already posted in 🤷


When I try your first method it looks like this... https://i.imgur.com/vf3Fiqj.png then the cad becomes like this https://i.imgur.com/9PJ48u0.png
I think maybe I put in the mx style code wrong way how is the right way? :)

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 10:26:25 »
When I try your first method it looks like this... https://i.imgur.com/vf3Fiqj.png then the cad becomes like this https://i.imgur.com/9PJ48u0.png
I think maybe I put in the mx style code wrong way how is the right way? :)

You added an extra key on the bottom row instead.

This raw code works for the basic ANSI layout:
[{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2},""],
[{w:1.5},"","","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:1.5},""],
[{w:1.75},"","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2.25},""],
[{w:2.25},"","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2.75},""],
[{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{_s:2,w:6.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},""]


The relevant part modifying the spacebar part being {_s:2,w:6.25}

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 11:05:28 »
When I try your first method it looks like this... https://i.imgur.com/vf3Fiqj.png then the cad becomes like this https://i.imgur.com/9PJ48u0.png
I think maybe I put in the mx style code wrong way how is the right way? :)

You added an extra key on the bottom row instead.

This raw code works for the basic ANSI layout:
[{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2},""],
[{w:1.5},"","","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:1.5},""],
[{w:1.75},"","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2.25},""],
[{w:2.25},"","","","","","","","","","","",{w:2.75},""],
[{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{_s:2,w:6.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},"",{w:1.25},""]


The relevant part modifying the spacebar part being {_s:2,w:6.25}




Thank you so much, my friend, but  I get this little problem Idk if it is Important or not... https://i.imgur.com/MjyszE2.png

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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 12:00:43 »
Thank you so much, my friend, but  I get this little problem Idk if it is Important or not... https://i.imgur.com/MjyszE2.png

The inserts should still clip in fine like that.
Comparing to the tai-hao plate from alps plate thread linked earlier, though, it seems that there's different spacing on the right shift inserts. You might want to check the wires that you're using to see which one's right if you can't edit the file to add both for safety's sake. Edit: Actually the narrower spacing should work regardless, never mind this.

By the way, who made the PCB you posted in the OP? It has interesting footprints (APS?) but I can't really find info on it.
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Re: [HELP] Can someone help me create 60% ANSI CAD file for ALP PLATE?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:41:22 »
Thank you so much, my friend, but  I get this little problem Idk if it is Important or not... https://i.imgur.com/MjyszE2.png

The inserts should still clip in fine like that.
Comparing to the tai-hao plate from alps plate thread linked earlier, though, it seems that there's different spacing on the right shift inserts. You might want to check the wires that you're using to see which one's right if you can't edit the file to add both for safety's sake. Edit: Actually the narrower spacing should work regardless, never mind this.

By the way, who made the PCB you posted in the OP? It has interesting footprints (APS?) but I can't really find info on it.


I found btw AEK keycaps I will buy if I can get, will that be fine?

The PCB is a gif from a Korean friend idk it is made in China for sure he sent me as a gift so I could start vintage keebs. If I get a link or something I will share it with you.

Cheers,

-FLawLesS