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Offline msiegel

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Blue Cherry switch won't click
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 16:02:19 »
ironically, we also put significant effort into making BS quieter ;)

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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #51 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 16:03:32 »
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ironically, we also put significant effort into making BS quieter ;)

Exactly.


Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #52 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 17:04:55 »
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The clicking mechanism is Alps and Cherrys are for the express purpose of making noise, for better or worse.


No. No, no, no. Look again at the Blue Cherry picture:


The important bit is the red circle on the red leaf (the contact.) When the white slider has enough force on it to push it past the leaf, the resistance collapses and it flies down. The contact on the red leaf automatically touches the blue leaf, and a key stroke is registered at the same time as you hear and feel the feedback.

  • If it clicks, a key press is registered.
  • If a key press is registered, it has clicked.

The two events are inextricably linked. It clicks if and only if a key press has been registered.

The mechanism is absolutely NOT "for the express purpose of making noise." It synchronises activation and feedback. And it introduces hysteresis.

It does so perfectly on the down stroke. On the upstroke it can be defeated, so it isn't as elegant as a BS.

But can we please end this fallacy that the click is an artificial one.

Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #53 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 17:28:51 »
Quote from: Rajagra;121273
No. No, no, no. Look again at the Blue Cherry picture:
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The important bit is the red circle on the red leaf (the contact.) When the white slider has enough force on it to push it past the leaf, the resistance collapses and it flies down. The contact on the red leaf automatically touches the blue leaf, and a key stroke is registered at the same time as you hear and feel the feedback.

  • If it clicks, a key press is registered.
  • If a key press is registered, it has clicked.
The two events are inextricably linked. It clicks if and only if a key press has been registered.
 
The mechanism is absolutely NOT "for the express purpose of making noise." It synchronises activation and feedback. And it introduces hysteresis.
 
It does so perfectly on the down stroke. On the upstroke it can be defeated, so it isn't as elegant as a BS.
 
But can we please end this fallacy that the click is an artificial one.

I know this, I have seen the pictures. The browns, blacks and clears do this without a special clicky part. The white slider is there to click. Period.
 
The Alps are the same way.  One has a tactile leaf that is attached to the housing the other doesn't and clicks.  The express purpose is to click.  It, too, activates the switch.  In both cases, the clicking has nothing to do with switch activation.
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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 18:16:42 »
somebody's gonna have to experiment!

where's ripster? XD

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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #55 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 18:19:36 »
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I would also advice the fukkas or real alps from a producer other than costar to people who like the blues, except for the high pitched sound. They sound more manly, although quite loud.


for non-BS switches, fukkas are quite manly :)

or as they said in the 80s, studly XD

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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #56 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 19:36:00 »
XD hulk smash!!

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Blue Cherry switch won't click
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 20:55:31 »
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I think the troll's outfit on Leia would be mildly arousing.


You do realize you're talking about legos here...?
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Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #58 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 21:09:18 »
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You do realize you're talking about legos here...?


As opposed to the real Princess Leia in a galaxy far, far away? :alien:

Just look at those tight buns, how can you resist?:mullet:
« Last Edit: Mon, 28 September 2009, 21:11:31 by Rajagra »

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 28 September 2009, 21:17:25 »
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Yep.  Studly all right.
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Blue Cherries are FUN!  They go clicky clicky click.



lol nice pic; ripster your rank hatred of all things Alps is well known... ;)

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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 07:12:07 »
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I think the troll's outfit on Leia would be mildly arousing.

It would be kinda similar to the outfit she was wearing during the Jabba scene.


Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #61 on: Tue, 29 September 2009, 09:29:16 »
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She has cleavage on that version of the Lego minifigure.
 
This is supposed to be a Family Friendly forum or I'd satisfy your lewd desires.

I don't know about lewd.  Disturbing, perhaps.