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Title: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 April 2019, 20:44:33
Once /week 4 TP..



Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Aerizu on Sat, 06 April 2019, 20:51:34
Once or twice a month. Usually outside with friends, or at home by myself.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:05:09
been Two month.
azhdar is no bueno with alcohol.
Took years to figure tho.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:18:46
Seems like y'all r pretty responsible
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: invariance on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:19:49
I’ve toned it down a bit and will have 1-3 drinks a night from cider/beer/wine/scotch depending what is in the house and how I feel.
This is when I’m on day shift, when on nights I just go straight to bed.  This is about 3 weeks of each.
Dropped an inch from my waist with that change, just need to be mindful of my meal portion size now.


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Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: JP on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:23:13
Rarely, like once every couple months I might have a beer but usually have more on nice summer days.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:28:49
Yeah, about once a week-a couple times a month. Less as I get older, and in far less quantity than before. I don't feel obligated to finish a 6pak anymore, but a couple after working hard all day is really nice.

it's that weed that's killing me  :-\
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:32:07
Yeah, about once a week-a couple times a month. Less as I get older, and in far less quantity than before. I don't feel obligated to finish a 6pak anymore, but a couple after working hard all day is really nice.

it's that weed that's killing me  :-\

but dey'sai it no addictive.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: chyros on Sun, 07 April 2019, 09:45:31
Almost every day. Only one or two when I'm alone, but a lot more when I'm with people.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Sun, 07 April 2019, 09:54:29
About 4 or 5 times a year now. Got the heavy drinking out of my system in college.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Carcharocles on Sun, 07 April 2019, 10:38:41
Never.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no teetotaler. But my family has a long history of alcoholism, and alcohol jacks with my meds. And since I'm diagnosed with NASH, booze is the last thing I need.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: SBJ on Sun, 07 April 2019, 13:02:58
Almost never.
I'm boring.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 07 April 2019, 13:16:44
I consume water every 2-4 hours in order to make myself stay hydrated. Sometimes, i slowly breathe and start to fall asleep because i don’t drink enough water.
As for Alcohol? I can't drink that. I'm 14/15!
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 07 April 2019, 23:13:33
probably like once a month, and pretty casually.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: chyros on Mon, 08 April 2019, 00:16:09
Almost never.
I'm boring.
How can you have a picture of Rick as your avatar, yet never drink?! XD
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 08 April 2019, 01:18:15
Once a week? Something like that.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: SBJ on Mon, 08 April 2019, 01:55:46
Almost never.
I'm boring.
How can you have a picture of Rick as your avatar, yet never drink?! XD
Technically Morty is in the picture as well. :D
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 09 April 2019, 06:19:02
iunno, a few glasses of wine maybe twice a week.  All glass lined aged stuff though, it's probably fine.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 09 April 2019, 06:48:14
iunno, a few glasses of wine maybe twice a week.  All glass lined aged stuff though, it's probably fine.

If wine thy want than 4L (trigger warning: metric system) space bag is thy only way m'lady.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 09 April 2019, 07:38:31
iunno, a few glasses of wine maybe twice a week.  All glass lined aged stuff though, it's probably fine.

If wine thy want than 4L (trigger warning: metric system) space bag is thy only way m'lady.

Sounds good random drunk man on the skreet.  Furthermore, get bent.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 09 April 2019, 07:48:26
iunno, a few glasses of wine maybe twice a week.  All glass lined aged stuff though, it's probably fine.

If wine thy want than 4L (trigger warning: metric system) space bag is thy only way m'lady.

Sounds good random drunk man on the skreet.  Furthermore, get bent.

"Get bent, get space bag bent" - fruity lexia,making you sexier. 2019


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Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 09 April 2019, 07:59:43
iunno, a few glasses of wine maybe twice a week.  All glass lined aged stuff though, it's probably fine.

If wine thy want than 4L (trigger warning: metric system) space bag is thy only way m'lady.

Sounds good random drunk man on the skreet.  Furthermore, get bent.

"Get bent, get space bag bent" - fruity lexia,making you sexier. 2019


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Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:20:11

"Get bent, get space bag bent" - fruity lexia,making you sexier. 2019

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Alcoholism, The KIT.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 10 April 2019, 13:03:41
I've been drinking every night for a while now. Either gin and tonics or just straight gin. Just enough to get me there and then I go to bed.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 10 April 2019, 13:13:23
I've been drinking every night for a while now. Either gin and tonics or just straight gin. Just enough to get me there and then I go to bed.

? Depression coping ?
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 11 April 2019, 12:59:10
i guess few times a month
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 April 2019, 16:38:02
i guess few times a month

It seems like gekha's mainly got a -responsible bunch-
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: SBJ on Fri, 12 April 2019, 06:09:00
i guess few times a month

It seems like gekha's mainly got a -responsible bunch-
I used to be an irresponsible douche that thought he knew everything.
As I grew up I realized I was pretty average.
The more I started to see the damage of alcohol to those around me the more the thought of drinking myself silly wasn't appealing.
The less I drank the more I started actually reading about things that interested me and found hobbies. I'm definitely happier now than I was, dunno if alcohol had something to say about that.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 12 April 2019, 10:36:24
i guess few times a month

It seems like gekha's mainly got a -responsible bunch-

Because keebs is a serious business.
Can't let alcohol distract us from the one true goal : "finding the endgame"
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 11:00:27

Because keebs is a serious business.
Can't let alcohol distract us from the one true goal : "finding the endgame"

But if Tp4 already found endgame,   m0ar drink ?
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 12 April 2019, 11:31:08
If there was a way to retain the taste of beer without the alcohol I'd continue to drink it. Toxicity, pls.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 11:49:34
If there was a way to retain the taste of beer without the alcohol I'd continue to drink it. Toxicity, pls.

Nawwh.. Beer doesn't taste good,  it's yeast p00p..

Through persistent exposure, You've cognitively associate the chemical HIGH of alcohol with the TASTE of beer.

Heroin ruins your life, in that way , we can say it tastes-bad.  HOWEVER the user's brain gets HIGH. Addicts associate the HIGH with their debilitating lifestyle.  Even though they become aware that it's all awful, the Chemical conditioning is there to keep cycling their behavior towards the same outcome,  UNTIL their physical system finally breaks completely.


For example, we see addicts get-DRY in prison.  But as soon as they come out, they go back to their dingy neighborhoods, the familiar walks, the wandering around the same set of associates. Initially they may rationalize this behavior as,  They're Lonely, They're looking for friends, etc. However that's actually inaccurate. From the 3rd person perspective what they're saying would be correct for a non-addict.  However, as addicts,  their brain is actually actuating in attempts to resume drug-use behaviors.   In order to attain drugs, they need to be around shady characters, they need to be around back alleys, they need to reconnect with the original SYSTEM which facilitated getting-high.


This is also the same for On again/ Off again relationships..   Looking for that High of physical intimacy,  people wander back to old spots and associates who provided that original set of service exchange.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 12 April 2019, 12:32:09
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 12:58:22
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.

There's also the rat park studies, where rats in cages do drugs, while free roaming rat-park rats play and haz the secs, no do drugs.

That said, the experiment does not thoroughly model human behavior..  as humans can be confined cognitively even if not physically confined.

Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 12 April 2019, 13:30:14
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.

There's also the rat park studies, where rats in cages do drugs, while free roaming rat-park rats play and haz the secs, no do drugs.

That said, the experiment does not thoroughly model human behavior..  as humans can be confined cognitively even if not physically confined.



I think it's difficult to correlate the behavior of fruit flies and rats with human behavior, but there is evidence of shared DNA among people and other animals.

It's not unreasonable to consider that there may be ancient traits associated with certain markers or sequences that manifest differently or have yet to manifest.

Ancient traits like sexually frustrated fruit flies that found that the older the fallen fruit is the more they can party like it's 1999.


edit - Found the link.  Post of study is from April 20, 2018 (probably NSFW or the squeamish)

https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/sexually-frustrated-fruit-flies-turn-to-alcohol (https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/sexually-frustrated-fruit-flies-turn-to-alcohol)
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 12 April 2019, 17:45:26
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.

There's also the rat park studies, where rats in cages do drugs, while free roaming rat-park rats play and haz the secs, no do drugs.

That said, the experiment does not thoroughly model human behavior..  as humans can be confined cognitively even if not physically confined.



Have you ever read about the John Calhoun mouse utopia study? Pretty interesting stuff, I think you'd dig the concept.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 17:52:09

Have you ever read about the John Calhoun mouse utopia study? Pretty interesting stuff, I think you'd dig the concept.

Yes, I've read it.

The macro of the system models humans well.

The only difference is, SOME humans have the capacity to exceed the frontier. Most will not .
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 12 April 2019, 17:57:35

Have you ever read about the John Calhoun mouse utopia study? Pretty interesting stuff, I think you'd dig the concept.

Yes, I've read it.

The macro of the system models humans well.

The only difference is, SOME humans have the capacity to exceed the frontier. Most will not .


Well for the most part. Humans tend not to eat their young when stressed out. Very interesting findings nonetheless. Shows why huge areas of cheap government housing always results in the area becoming volatile and dangerous. But then you gotta wonder why a rural place in Alabama has a higher murder rate than a place like NYC, humans have this instinct to be socially accepted and in places that you need considerable wealth to afford generally have much lower crime statistics. Some people try to link that concept to race, but that is complete bull****, it's almost 100% environmental.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:17:11

Well for the most part. Humans tend not to eat their young when stressed out. Very interesting findings nonetheless. Shows why huge areas of cheap government housing always results in the area becoming volatile and dangerous. But then you gotta wonder why a rural place in Alabama has a higher murder rate than a place like NYC

Humans do not physically EAT their young when stressed, but the phenomenon is not unlike tiger moms / overparenting etc.

As for volatile environments in rural places, it's always Drugs. Heroin/Fent is cheap and pervasive.

Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:23:39
3-4 times a week. The older I get the more I drink.

Or, rather, the busier I get the more I drink.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:33:03
Humans do not physically EAT their young when stressed, but the phenomenon is not unlike tiger moms / overparenting etc.

that's literally the opposite of eating your young, the idea of tiger mom parenting being to set them up for success through strenuous work
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:46:51
Humans do not physically EAT their young when stressed, but the phenomenon is not unlike tiger moms / overparenting etc.

that's literally the opposite of eating your young, the idea of tiger mom parenting being to set them up for success through strenuous work

Whether or not the child succeeds is something independent of the parent's intention/motivation for their over-parenting.

To be clear, We are talking about Over-Parenting as parallel to mice infanticide ,  Not outcomes.

These parents are consuming their children's life and happiness as a personal project.

They see their children as an extension and property, because of their inability for personal advancement, they choose the easier life-game of coaching someone else.

Advancing as an adult is difficult, both intellectually and physically.  However, these moms choose the path of least resistence, that being making kids do kids stuffs.  Kids stuff isn't hard for an adult, that's why they choose it. This type of parent has themselves abandoned personal growth to become the ultimate nagging babysitter. What they can't do for themselves, they police their children to do.

What tigermoms/ overparents do is fundamentally a selfish act and a means of self-aggrandizement.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:51:35
Consuming your children for temporary sustenance vs over-parenting so they can succeed long-term.

The only correlation I can draw is they are both misguided solutions with a detrimental impact on the child's life.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 18:55:40
Consuming your children for temporary sustenance vs over-parenting so they can succeed long-term.

The only correlation I can draw is they are both misguided solutions with a detrimental impact on the child's life.

The human overparent is effectively consuming their children's life.  The overparent does not provide GUIDANCE, Instead of letting kids LIVE LIFE, the overparent institutes tyranny, the child is dependent and helpless. As to why they do this, I've already explained in the previous post.

This is the same TYPE of behavior brought on by boundary stress, the inability to expand. For the mice, it's territorial, the box is only so big,     for humans, it's personal improvement, the parent is only willing to read xx many books for themselves, run xx number of miles.


The test is really simple,  You ask a kid , what he wants to be, if he says Lawyer, That's overparenting.  Kids can not possibly understand something as complex as lawyer, and even if he did, he would NOT want that job.  So the difference is,  a parent GUIDES a child through processes so that the child MAY(May not) eventually discover on their own that being a lawyer is a worthwhile useful occupation.   The overparent throws SAT books in the child's face starting in middle-school, makes him do stuff like Kumon, and tells him,  BE a lawyer.


I read this funny analogy the other day,  There are 2 kinds of bird,  1 Kind that can Fly,  and The other Kind which can not.    The nonflying birds are the most h8ful of birds, because they sit in a nest, lay an egg, and yells at their progeny to try harder.


(https://i.imgur.com/8l4kWNs.gif)
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 12 April 2019, 19:37:40
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.

There's also the rat park studies, where rats in cages do drugs, while free roaming rat-park rats play and haz the secs, no do drugs.

That said, the experiment does not thoroughly model human behavior..  as humans can be confined cognitively even if not physically confined.



Have you ever read about the John Calhoun mouse utopia study? Pretty interesting stuff, I think you'd dig the concept.

Hmm, time to do some more reading of legitimate science stuffs.  Might pair with wine :)
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 19:48:25

Hmm, time to do some more reading of legitimate science stuffs.  Might pair with wine :)

There are some interpretation flaws, especially in experiment summaries by other people.

For example, in a real eco system, death is part of the equation. whereas in the experiment, death is seen as failure/ colony collapse only, and not as a component of the response system.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 12 April 2019, 19:56:16
I read somewhere that researchers found evidence that sexually frustrated fruit flies drink alcoholic beverages in liue of procreation.

It's amazing how one research paper can lead to positive life changes.

There's also the rat park studies, where rats in cages do drugs, while free roaming rat-park rats play and haz the secs, no do drugs.

That said, the experiment does not thoroughly model human behavior..  as humans can be confined cognitively even if not physically confined.



Have you ever read about the John Calhoun mouse utopia study? Pretty interesting stuff, I think you'd dig the concept.

Hmm, time to do some more reading of legitimate science stuffs.  Might pair with wine :)

I'd recommend looking at the actual study because it's super interesting, but this is a great tldr:
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 12 April 2019, 19:58:05

Hmm, time to do some more reading of legitimate science stuffs.  Might pair with wine :)

There are some interpretation flaws, especially in experiment summaries by other people.

For example, in a real eco system, death is part of the equation. whereas in the experiment, death is seen as failure/ colony collapse only, and not as a component of the response system.


Thanks for the spoiler tp4tissue.

I was looking forward to reading about the subject. :(
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 19:58:56

Thanks for the spoiler tp4tissue.

I was looking forward to reading about the subject. :(

There's still lots of meat in there hahaha. . It's a wide set of info.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 12 April 2019, 21:21:58
Nawwh.. Beer doesn't taste good,  it's yeast p00p..

Through persistent exposure, You've cognitively associate the chemical HIGH of alcohol with the TASTE of beer.

Heroin ruins your life, in that way , we can say it tastes-bad.  HOWEVER the user's brain gets HIGH. Addicts associate the HIGH with their debilitating lifestyle.

Lmao. Actually I so rarely drink (like a handful of times in years) that I can definitely say it's the taste. That said most beers I've tried do taste bland though, Guinness is the only beer I've legitimately enjoyed the taste of and if it were possible to produce a non-alcoholic version I'd buy it.

As for the effect I dislike the dulling alcohol has on the mind. It's not entirely unlike valium in that way (took it prescribed once while recovering from concussion IIRC and it feels like one's mind has lost all sharpness). Obviously some like that aspect but along with hindering the metabolism of fat while the liver is trying to purge it from our bodies it's not ideal.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 April 2019, 22:08:10
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Lmao. Actually I so rarely drink (like a handful of times in years) that I can definitely say it's the taste. That said most beers I've tried do taste bland though, Guinness is the only beer I've legitimately enjoyed the taste of and if it were possible to produce a non-alcoholic version I'd buy it.

As for the effect I dislike the dulling alcohol has on the mind. It's not entirely unlike valium in that way (took it prescribed once while recovering from concussion IIRC and it feels like one's mind has lost all sharpness). Obviously some like that aspect but along with hindering the metabolism of fat while the liver is trying to purge it from our bodies it's not ideal.

I mean this with no disrespect Coreda. But you misunderstand the EFFECT of alcohol.

The dulling of the senses, maybe nausea, stumbling, babbling, blurred vision.

All of those things are SECONDARY to the Dopamine Rush.

ALCOHOL = Happiness.   There is no if, but, also. it's a 1:1 analogy

That is how your brain interprets drinking, REGARDLESS of any other side effects.  for light drugs such as alcohol, tobacco, coffee, marijuana, snus,  these are the ~200% dopa triggers, Equivalent in chemical strength to natural high during (secs). 


For example, Normally, when you throw up, your brain creates a memory , don't eat that again, or don't do whatever it is you did that made you throw up. BECAUSE it may have been poisonous.

Alcohol is different,  Even if it made you nauseous, and sick feeling, The brain still writes a Happy memory. Good job Coreda,  DO this more, do it all the time, you are awesome, keep drinking. That is how direct acting these chemicals are.

Jack daniel is no fool, he's not allowed to sell you heroin,  next best thing alcohol.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:12:32
I mean this with no disrespect Coreda. But you misunderstand the EFFECT of alcohol.

The dulling of the senses, maybe nausea, stumbling, babbling, blurred vision.  All of those things are SECONDARY to the Dopamine Rush.

ALCOHOL = Happiness. That is how your brain interprets drinking, REGARDLESS of any other side effects.

Alcohol is different,  Even if it made you nauseous, and sick feeling, The brain still writes a Happy memory. Good job Coreda,  DO this more, do it all the time, you are awesome, keep drinking. That is how direct acting these chemicals are.

I'm talking about enjoying the taste of a specific beer though. If we instead look at wines there are probably more varieties you would agree have a pleasant flavor. I mean, I find it hard to believe you'd consider all alcoholic drinks taste the same and any opinions on taste are entirely based on positive brain re-enforcement. Seems more likely there just haven't been any beer flavors you'd liked.

Remember, most beer I didn't enjoy the taste of (that fwiw aren't associated with bad experiences either, in fact the opposite), which put me off having beer for the longest time so I'm not coming to the opinion I enjoy a particular taste solely from some effect it had.

I understand some drink simply for 'happy' factor but I drink so rarely to care for it so when I have the consideration was down to taste. In a way it's like a light, non-sweet but distinctively tasting soda which is nice when one isn't after something overbearing and pairs well with some food combinations. The downsides regarding fat metabolism and the mind dulling aren't worth it though, personally.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: macclack on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:56:58
Drinking generally makes me sleepy so I usually have a tequila once my kiddos are in bed and I'm winding down, getting through some e-mails or chatting with y'all.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 00:39:47

I'm talking about enjoying the taste of a specific beer though. If we instead look at wines there are probably more varieties you would agree have a pleasant flavor. I mean, I find it hard to believe you'd consider all alcoholic drinks taste the same and any opinions on taste are entirely based on positive brain re-enforcement. Seems more likely there just haven't been any beer flavors you'd liked.

Remember, most beer I didn't enjoy the taste of (that fwiw aren't associated with bad experiences either, in fact the opposite), which put me off having beer for the longest time so I'm not coming to the opinion I enjoy a particular taste solely from some effect it had.

I understand some drink simply for 'happy' factor but I drink so rarely to care for it so when I have the consideration was down to taste. In a way it's like a light, non-sweet but distinctively tasting soda which is nice when one isn't after something overbearing and pairs well with some food combinations. The downsides regarding fat metabolism and the mind dulling aren't worth it though, personally.

I don't disagree that the preference of taste exists, or that someone might enjoy a typically disagreeable taste.

HOWEVER, in the case of ALCOHOL,  what it tastes like does not matter.

For example, your first ever cigarette.  You probably dragged on it a bit too hard, took smoke all the way into the lungs,  coughed, painful.

That AWFUL sensation is a way of life for smokers.  How did that happen, how COULD it happen.

That's the power of 200% dopamine lvl, and -desensitization- (with continued use).


It doesn't take much, it's EXTREMELY pleasurable, you may not even be aware of how good you feel, but every time you imbibe, your brain jots down in its chemical recorder, Hurray, we did it again guys, we've conquered LIFE.

It's not as Obvious as Cocaine/Meth, but it's at the PEAK lvl as ordained by nature, Beyond which is neurotoxic..
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:04:33
I don't think people drink to be happy. I think they either drink to socialize, or as an escape. Any type of drinking can fall under those two categories.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:10:19
I don't think people drink to be happy. I think they either drink to socialize, or as an escape. Any type of drinking can fall under those two categories.

The Happy,  happens regardless of anything else going on.

They can be waterboarding you,  if you're doped up,  the brain registers the experience as pleasurable, DESPITE you knowing obviously that waterboarding is not fun at all.

This is why addicts against all adversity can Continue doing what they're doing.

Drugs = Happiness , anything or any proximal behavior towards drug use = DO IT MORE.


People encrust drug-use with All sorts of colorful language and depictions.  But it's all mere embellishment of a hard Truth.  Chemical happiness = REAL HAPPINESS.

Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:32:55
But happiness is a result, not the catalyst. The force that drives someone to a substance is not happiness, but an activity that they hope results in feelings of happiness. Sometimes.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: chyros on Sat, 13 April 2019, 02:53:09
I don't think people drink to be happy. I think they either drink to socialize, or as an escape. Any type of drinking can fall under those two categories.
When I'm not with people, I genuinely drink for the taste. Come to think of it, that's probably why I don't have cheap alcohol in my house xD .
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 08:06:29
But happiness is a result, not the catalyst. The force that drives someone to a substance is not happiness, but an activity that they hope results in feelings of happiness. Sometimes.

Nope.

That's not how the hedonic system works.  it's ALL about the happiness.

The only reason , anyone can enjoy any activity, is if that activity serves SOME function which leads to or increases the probability of -Happiness-.

And once happiness is achieved, the brain writes down a memory, this + this + this works. Do this more tomorrow.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 13 April 2019, 11:22:28
But happiness is a result, not the catalyst. The force that drives someone to a substance is not happiness, but an activity that they hope results in feelings of happiness. Sometimes.

Nope.

That's not how the hedonic system works.  it's ALL about the happiness.

The only reason , anyone can enjoy any activity, is if that activity serves SOME function which leads to or increases the probability of -Happiness-.

And once happiness is achieved, the brain writes down a memory, this + this + this works. Do this more tomorrow.


So what about dopamine hits from THC?  Would that be a Groundhogs Day effect scenario?
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 11:51:04

So what about dopamine hits from THC?  Would that be a Groundhogs Day effect scenario?

Marijuana shouldn't be schedule 1.

However, it is as powerful and addicting as cigarettes/alcohol

Addicts are playing into the hands of cigarette companies all over again.

You think all these giant weed companies arose from mom-pop operations ?

Heck no, It's all shadow banking funded by the likes of philip morris



The only reason they stopped with the cigarette, was because of Public outcry against.

Now that these dumb kids cry out FOR marijuana, well, here we go again. hahaha. round and round.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:15:53
Tonight. A lot.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:34:54

So what about dopamine hits from THC?  Would that be a Groundhogs Day effect scenario?

Marijuana shouldn't be schedule 1.

However, it is as powerful and addicting as cigarettes/alcohol

Addicts are playing into the hands of cigarette companies all over again.

You think all these giant weed companies arose from mom-pop operations ?

Heck no, It's all shadow banking funded by the likes of philip morris



The only reason they stopped with the cigarette, was because of Public outcry against.

Now that these dumb kids cry out FOR marijuana, well, here we go again. hahaha. round and round.


I've read quite a few articles published in the last couple years about less than legit farms (California) that redirect streams to satisfy massive water requirements.

As a previous recreational user and supporter (still) of legalization I wasn't aware that each plant requires ~6 gallons of water per day (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/legal-pot/water-guzzling-pot-plants-draining-drought-wracked-california-n149861). 

They're is some worry that legalization in Florida might significantly drain 'the aquifer'.  I am a bit worried about that tbh--they can desalinize salt water too but at what cost to the environment?

I need to watch Groundhog Day again...
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:37:45

I've read quite a few articles published in the last couple years about less than legit farms (California) that redirect streams to satisfy massive water requirements.

As a previous recreational user and supporter (still) of legalization I wasn't aware that each plant requires ~6 gallons of water per day (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/legal-pot/water-guzzling-pot-plants-draining-drought-wracked-california-n149861). 

They're is some worry that legalization in Florida might significantly drain 'the aquifer'.  I am a bit worried about that tbh--they can desalinize salt water too but at what cost to the environment?

Humans, short memories.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:52:06
I need to watch Groundhog Day again...
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 13:54:09
I need to watch Groundhog Day again...

(https://i.imgur.com/KJAc0O4.gif)
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 13 April 2019, 15:15:59
As someone who used to grow, 6 gallons of water a day is complete and total horse****. Not only do they barely go through 1 gallon a day per plant, but even using a hydroponic system that DOESN'T recycle water(like 99% of them do) you STILL wouldn't get through 6 gallons a day. That number is 100% fabrication on every single level of inspection.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 15:41:35
As someone who used to grow, 6 gallons of water a day is complete and total horse****. Not only do they barely go through 1 gallon a day per plant, but even using a hydroponic system that DOESN'T recycle water(like 99% of them do) you STILL wouldn't get through 6 gallons a day. That number is 100% fabrication on every single level of inspection.

It's different growing inside vs out.

I don't know which one they refer to,  But Just growing tomatoes outside, summer time , use LOTS of waters, same with melons.

The use of water is a debate mainly because they're growing a narcotic.  It's not a food. 
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 13 April 2019, 15:44:21
6 gallons a day for a single plant would drown the root system and waterlog the plant. They didn't even go with a realistic number. 6 gallons is absurd, almost like they just arbitrarily pulled a number out of thin air. Which is what I suspect they did.

6 gallons a day would kill the plant. 6 gallons a day would kill most any small-med sized potted plant. This entire argument and discussion is ****ing retarded.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 April 2019, 16:16:46
6 gallons a day for a single plant would drown the root system and waterlog the plant. They didn't even go with a realistic number. 6 gallons is absurd, almost like they just arbitrarily pulled a number out of thin air. Which is what I suspect they did.

6 gallons a day would kill the plant. 6 gallons a day would kill most any small-med sized potted plant. This entire argument and discussion is ****ing retarded.

6 gallons IN A PlantPot would drown a plant.

NOT in a field, 6 gallon might not even be enough in a field..
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 13 April 2019, 16:26:34
Obviously the amount of water needed would vary based on whether the farming area orientation is vertical or horizontal, lighting equipment or sun exposure, soil drainage, etc..
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:21:40
I've been drinking every night for a while now. Either gin and tonics or just straight gin. Just enough to get me there and then I go to bed.

? Depression coping ?

anxiety coping, and when I was on disability for three months I kinda developed a drinking habit
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:34:42


anxiety coping, and when I was on disability for three months I kinda developed a drinking habit

At least -Not Meth_
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:35:23


anxiety coping, and when I was on disability for three months I kinda developed a drinking habit

At least -Not Meth_

never meth

only medical meth (amphetamines)
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:42:37


never meth

only medical meth (amphetamines)

Slow release,  similar long term outcome, dependence, complete inattentiveness absent medi-meth.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 16 April 2019, 20:27:56
Drinking Hurricane's and eating Top Ramen tonight like I'm 22 again. It's a bit nostalgic, but my pallet's become refined and these flavors are rough. That's fine, it'll all be a blur after the second Hurricane.
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 16 April 2019, 20:38:18
Drinking Hurricane's and eating Top Ramen tonight like I'm 22 again. It's a bit nostalgic, but my pallet's become refined and these flavors are rough. That's fine, it'll all be a blur after the second Hurricane.

At least you don't drink Mad Dog 20/20

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Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 16 April 2019, 20:40:35
Drinking Hurricane's and eating Top Ramen tonight like I'm 22 again. It's a bit nostalgic, but my pallet's become refined and these flavors are rough. That's fine, it'll all be a blur after the second Hurricane.

At least you don't drink Mad Dog 20/20

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oh man, you ever heard of Thunderbird or Night Train Express? Those are THE BOTTOM of the bum wine barrel. So bad, I challenge anyone to down a bottle.

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these guys right here, they are the worst
Title: Re: How often do y'all drink ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 16 April 2019, 23:10:50
There's just not enough alcohol in MD 20/20 to make the taste ok