geekhack
geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: homerowco on Fri, 12 April 2019, 21:44:19
-
I will update this post tomorrow with more details, meanwhile feel free to join us on Discord if you have any questions: https://discord.gg/t2rrhfg (https://discord.gg/t2rrhfg)
The Wonderland PCB and the Lubrigante Acrylic Case Kit Group Buy is opening for everyone:
$44 for a PCB and $68 for a clean acrylic case in various colors!*
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/NCFz7NTdtkBVx2fs0AkJjBoZA9K_2WxysUPaDcCDgQ_KYwfODRcYAIvk-e3UamWkb0Z5YNAhdg=w3176)
You can find any further details on the GB form: https://forms.gle/V4YCsGoxYWUvY4UF7 (https://forms.gle/V4YCsGoxYWUvY4UF7)
Please, please, please read the description to answer all your questions ahead of selecting any options!**
Starts: NOW!
Ends: 1 Week from NOW or when a limit is reached where I think it does not get out of control. (~100 kits)
Estimated delivery: Around end of next month (may) if the keeb gods shine bright on us.***
* plus Shipping & PayPal fees
** Seriously, read it!
*** Worst case end of June, you know how it goes... lets just say I have no trust in customs.
UPDATE 01
As you can see it's closed now the latest update can be read here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/bepb33/update01gb_wonderland_pcb_lubrigante_acrylic_case/
Links to some clips from the latest stream where I answered various questions:
Typing: https://clips.twitch.tv/AltruisticTriangularArugulaSpicyBoy
Bending: https://clips.twitch.tv/SpunkyPiercingOxCharlieBitMe
Glowing: https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantProtectiveBeanBudBlast
Rotating: https://clips.twitch.tv/ZanyTemperedSquirrelAsianGlow
UPDATE 02
Latest update is here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/bj4oyi/update02gb_wonderland_pcb_lubrigante_acrylic_case/
Short version:
We decided to do two colors, black and white silkscreen PCBs! Meaning you can now change your order if you dont want your order of black or white or if you picked anything else or dont care and you DONT want black. All choices that arent black or white will default to black! Let me know asap, if possible on discord: https://discord.gg/t2rrhfg (https://discord.gg/t2rrhfg)
If you have selected 2 PCB's you can now pick one of each, black and white, if you want. If you don't let me know it will default to black on the second PCB as well!
FINISHED - As of December 2019
In total we sold nearly 750 cases with around 200 of them wildcard R2 versions through over 500 orders!
In 4 orders we had broken layers which were replaced for free right away, one package went to the wrong address but was forwarded by the neighbor, one was sent back because the recipient had moved and we delivered it to the new address. Not a single package was lost, as far as we know. Packages had an average delivery time of 11 days, with one being in California within 5 days and the fasted went to Germany and was delivered in under 48 hours. We also had 60 packages stuck in US customs for 3 weeks.
We did had two complaints that I remember, one about the wrong standoffs and one about a not smooth outline.
Overall the group buy took from around April to September and the last 200 cases were send mid December 2019.
99% of the delay was due to the insane amount of 5mm acrylic we had to order that was just not available at any distributor anywhere near to us or the countries over. We had to order directly at Perspex in the UK, in case of the matte black. They literally had to cast us industrial sized sheets of 3x2 meter and then cut and transport it across the EU to us. Same applies to the GMK Striker Blue color that was made in Italy specifically for this group buy. Our matte (frosted) acrylics were all double side which is not only the most expensive version but also very uncommon, hence we had to buy the 5mm double side frosted clear from all three different distributors in Poland. We waited a total of 3 month just for the acrylic to be ordered, scheduled, manufactured and/or delivered.
As a reminder, 5mm Perspex custom made double side frosted for just $68 is an absolute steal.
The cost is also reflected in our income and final profit. After all total cost (not including labour) and post taxes we made a stunning $4 per case. That comes out to a total of $3,000 profit for many month of labour of producing, transporting, storing, packing, shipping, customer support, ...
I will complete and update this post over the week to give more insight about the whole process in preparation of the next rounds of this case and other projects.
-
Approval bump!
-
Wonderful!
-
Joined can't wait
-
thanks @photoelectric ;)
-
ordered one. Now that it is going in batches, how long do you think it will be to complete the GB?
-
I already joined the PCB gb. Can I get the case only?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Ordered two. One to match Red Riot when I finally get my sets, the other for the matte black aesthetic.
-
[NM]
-
Excellent.
-
Entered the GB via the form.
I didn't see an option to to get a different color for the PCB for the second, is it that only one color for the PCB will be manufactured?
When do we send the payment / will get the invoice?
-
Entered the GB via the form.
I didn't see an option to to get a different color for the PCB for the second, is it that only one color for the PCB will be manufactured?
When do we send the payment / will get the invoice?
There is only one PCB color, that's whats being voted on. From the discord discussion, it looks like White/USB-C are winning out by a large margin. GB closes on the 20th, so I'm guessing invoices will start going out then. They're doing FCFS batches, so if you're in later you might not get one right away - but if you're in then you're in, you just have to be patient ;)
-
the form is closed now and i would like to add another PCB, is that still possible?
-
I would like to add another case and also double check that I filled out the form correctly. I have a feeling that I didn't read properly and didn't select a plate with my case...
-
I would like to add another case and also double check that I filled out the form correctly. I have a feeling that I didn't read properly and didn't select a plate with my case...
if you filled out the form properly you should have an email with your responses and a link to edit them
(unless it's closed in which case you're doing the right thing)
-
I would like to add another case and also double check that I filled out the form correctly. I have a feeling that I didn't read properly and didn't select a plate with my case...
if you filled out the form properly you should have an email with your responses and a link to edit them
(unless it's closed in which case you're doing the right thing)
Thanks! I checked and yeah I did forget to choose a plate to go with my case...
-
Missed it, dope :rolleyes:
-
Ordered two. One to match Red Riot when I finally get my sets, the other for the matte black aesthetic.
fancy seeing you here. I see you picked 2 of these up, 2 of these will still cost you less than the UHMW one. admit it, you too like cheap Alice ;) I'm stoked for this as soon as I saw the files Zambu put up I started doing research then this just makes it all easier I don't have to waste moneys on acrylic to find out how to laser cut it. it's done for me :D This is the real budget Alice we all need.
-
Sad I missed this. Got really interested but forgot to check out. If anytime there will be extras or extra rounds, I'll be quite excitingly waiting.
-
damn, how did I miss this
I really wanted one of these bad boys
will there be extras?
-
Goddamnit how is this closed already? It was supposed to last for a week, I really wanted in :(
-
Goddamnit how is this closed already? It was supposed to last for a week, I really wanted in :(
Ends: 1 Week from NOW or when a limit is reached where I think it does not get out of control. (~100 kits)
-
can non-step caps lock be a choice?
oops, didn't see it has already finished
-
Goddamnit how is this closed already? It was supposed to last for a week, I really wanted in :(
Ends: 1 Week from NOW or when a limit is reached where I think it does not get out of control. (~100 kits)
I can read, just didn't realize there would be such a demand :/
-
Really wish I pulled the trigger when I initially saw this.
Hope it opens up again.
-
Personally, I just didn't know about this until it was too late. I really hope you decide to run a round 2 or open up for more orders, I really wanted to try an ergo board without breaking the bank.
-
Slept on this, hope you do another round!
-
i missed it again， sad
-
never spot this GB.. hoping for R2 or even better open for more orders..
-
Invoice received and paid!
-
Have all invoices been sent out? Haven’t received mine yet.
-
Have all invoices been sent out? Haven’t received mine yet.
Me neither, I was assuming since they said it was going to be done in batches it would come later. I definitely got my order in toward the end.
-
Just got my invoice! Very excited to see this
-
Invoice paid :)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Just got/paid my invoice too!
-
Invoice paid :thumb:
Thanks!
-
June, here we are. How are things looking?
-
June, here we are. How are things looking?
Best to keep updated on discord! :D
All things run pretty smoothly so far - clear acrylic production started today, will be done end of week or mon/tue next:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566218627997499412/585454674321211393/image0.jpg)
Still working on the color versions and frosted full size samples.
PCB will start production this week. So we still looking as planned around july for shipping.
No updates here cause there isn't really anything "big" to report since it's all running smooth.
On the other hand on discord I keep flooding people with small updates ;)
There have been a few streams of acrylic proto fitting of stabs etc. on twitch and an update on the full color LED cutouts but that's all small stuff really.
-
Imo small updates like "everything on track, doing x and y now" are better than no updates
-
Imo small updates like "everything on track, doing x and y now" are better than no updates
Like he mentioned a few times, Join the discord! He’s on there almost everyday with information and discussions.
Sometimes hourly update lol
-
I am on the Discord... :P but I imagine not everyone being there since nowadays everybody and their mother has a channel :P
-
.... nowadays everybody and their mother has a channel :P
Lol +1
Definitely agreed, im in all of the servers, but I rarely check them since there is just so much noise and other chitchat going on. Geekhack updates are just much cleaner.
-
.... nowadays everybody and their mother has a channel :P
Lol +1
Definitely agreed, im in all of the servers, but I rarely check them since there is just so much noise and other chitchat going on. Geekhack updates are just much cleaner.
I can see that being an annoyance. But that’s what Pins are for, and he has a “non-discussion” update page within the main Homerow Co. Discord that he posts the important stuff.
Doesn’t get bogged down with anything but updates.
-
Yeah well. Afaik one of the rules of posting a GB on GH is to have the main bulk of updates actually on here, not on a Discord. Plus, but this is just me, I'm not a fan of having 10+ Discord channels only to check up on updates scrolling through each one where one might have a main "update channel" but the others are a complete ****show of spam :P I personally prefer to have a quick 2 min glance here to see. But again, that's just me.
-
Definitely agreed, im in all of the servers, but I rarely check them since there is just so much noise and other chitchat going on. Geekhack updates are just much cleaner.
there's a dedicated updates channel where i post bigger updates and if someone needs to make a decision @everyone is used so you don't miss the important stuff :)
Yeah well. Afaik one of the rules of posting a GB on GH is to have the main bulk of updates actually on here, not on a Discord. Plus, but this is just me, I'm not a fan of having 10+ Discord channels only to check up on updates scrolling through each one where one might have a main "update channel" but the others are a complete ****show of spam :P I personally prefer to have a quick 2 min glance here to see. But again, that's just me.
that's okay then, the GB here was approved and published 3 or 4 days after the GB already ended and only after asking a not market related mod to approved it... so technically nobody "on GH" is in the GB anyway :P
also there is a dedicated update channel on the HR discord server which is read only, so no ****show of spam - see attachment :)
-
Here a quick rundown on updates posted in the dedicated update channel on Discord:
05/07/2019 UPDATE: I sent out payment reminders - let me know if you want to cancel please - we slowly need to prepare for mass purchase of acrylic! Yes, I know you want to see prototypes but I still need to know who's in and who isn't. PCB color also need to be set or as mentioned earlier you will default to BLACK.
05/09/2019 INFO: custom sized box prototype arrived today!
05/10/2019 UPDATE: ALPS plate orders will need to be switched to either MX, cancelled, or take a carbon fiber option I can offer at no additional cost as a curtesy for the confusion! Please message me ASAP if you're one of the 8 alps orders! Also check your inbox, you should have received a ticket from our helpdesk!
05/13/2019 UPDATE: reminder for the afternoon and evening side of the planet: GB INVOICE PERIOD IS ENDING - IF YOU HAVE NOT PAID YET AND NOT TOLD ME TO MARK YOU AS PAYING LATER: Your order will be cancelled tonight! Please let me know asap via discord or support@homerow.co if you want any further changes, want to cancel, or pay later! Also before you cancel or refund an order you already paid for via paypal, please try to find someone who wants to fill your spot or let me know ahead and I will find someone - PP now keep all the fees... I rather have an exchange of money going directly vs losing the fees. Thanks!
05/14/2019 UPDATE: Exciting update! I finally managed, and it really took some self management, to ordered every single piece of of bumpons we need. :smiley:
05/16/2019 UPDATE: "Your invoices have been canceled." - All unpaid invoices if I was not otherwise notified are now cancelled.
05/23/2019 [LubWon GB][UPDATE]: Last final version wasn't a perfect fit for zeal/enjoypbt stabs so I made another version which is already with the laser guys waiting to be cut - acrylic sheets order for clear is already on its way.
05/29/2019 [LubWon GB][UPDATE]: Last last final final version was a perfect fit with zeal/gateron stabs! Production of easily available clear acrylic is starting this week!
-
:D :thumb:
-
Small mid progress update: Clear acrylic plates are done.
Still need to produce the other 70% or plates and wait for the PCBs (3-6 weeks).
On the upside, cutting 30% of plates took 8 days and that included extreme temperature days with extended laser cool down breaks.
-
Nice! Have you got any pics of the clear stuff? Curious to see how that's looking since I only have frosted acrylic things.
-
Update from the discord:
"material samples are cut - stream today or tomorrow for a closer look - first impression album here:"
https://imgur.com/a/t4JT4i0
-
did anyone buy a spare set? and how much would you be willing to part with it for?
-
Any extras avail?
-
Any extras avail?
After the GB he has extras but wont be selling them until everyone in the GB has a fully working wonderland. He keeps the spares to replace if a keyboard gets damaged in shipping.
-
Any updates?
-
Any extras avail?
After the GB he has extras but wont be selling them until everyone in the GB has a fully working wonderland. He keeps the spares to replace if a keyboard gets damaged in shipping.
Thanks for the information! Hope they all come out flawless...I'm ready to fight someone for one.
-
Any updates?
Shipping starts next week, hopefully - waiting for custom shipping boxes.
-
Any updates?
Shipping starts next week, hopefully - waiting for custom shipping boxes.
Will extras be available through this thread or Discord, if there are any?
-
Will extras be available through this thread or Discord, if there are any?
Always through discord or instagram - I'm rarely on GH :)
And yes, there should be extras ;)
-
Hopefully this arrives alongside ePBT Extended 2048 =)
-
Hopefully this arrives alongside ePBT Extended 2048 =)
I will arrive before 2048, I'm sure of that
:P
-
Shipping starting maybe as early as next week? From the discord:
UPDATE: Striker Acrylic arrived at the factory. UV colors are done. Frosted almost done. Shipping next week? :slight_smile:
-
Is the Wonderland PCB interchangeable with the Project PCB?
-
Is the Wonderland PCB interchangeable with the Project PCB?
We wouldn't know that.
-
Shipping starting maybe as early as next week? From the discord:
UPDATE: Striker Acrylic arrived at the factory. UV colors are done. Frosted almost done. Shipping next week? :slight_smile:
We had some mishaps with out custom shipping boxes... they're finally coming this week, then packing and shipping starts right away!
-
If anyone is looking for a spot, try the mechmarket discord. Seems like everyday someone is selling their spot for cost!
-
If anyone is looking for a spot, try the mechmarket discord. Seems like everyday someone is selling their spot for cost!
Hello,
Do you have a link for the discord? I cannot find it on the reddit website
EDIT: If anyone is selling their spot, I will gladly take it off your hands :)
-
If anyone is looking for a spot, try the mechmarket discord. Seems like everyday someone is selling their spot for cost!
Hello,
Do you have a link for the discord? I cannot find it on the reddit website
EDIT: If anyone is selling their spot, I will gladly take it off your hands :)
Homerow Co. - Discord Invite: https://discord.gg/PnX9dTP
-
If anyone is looking for a spot, try the mechmarket discord. Seems like everyday someone is selling their spot for cost!
not really, those are all not GB spots. we had 2 gb spot sales so far ever.
-
I decided to sell my spot if anyone is interested.
Edit - for cost.
Edit 2:
1 pcb
1 frozen colored case, full plate
usb mini (not sure if that was an actual option or a vote)
5ml Krytox VPF1514
total was 142.26
-
nice
-
nice
Nice, maybe I can get one. By the time this GB link was posted over here, they were all sold out.
-
Will there be a round 2?
-
Will there be a round 2?
yep. coming mid next month, I hope. this time with a faster turn around because we now have distributors established and issues/limitations resolved.
sample materials for the next round will arrive next week.
-
what would be the expected shipping to India? Thanks!
-
$12-16 estimated.
-
Will there be a round 2?
yep. coming mid next month, I hope. this time with a faster turn around because we now have distributors established and issues/limitations resolved.
sample materials for the next round will arrive next week.
Nice!
-
R2 will start on Nov 1st - shop is probably going online weekend/next week. Turn around is 6-8 weeks depending on PCB shipment & laser cutting.
We will probably offer 3 colors, clear, matte black, and frosted - I'm checking triple this time to make sure they are all available in time.
-
Any update on R2 shipping with the reflash or whatever the issue was? Thanks
-
Any update on R2 shipping with the reflash or whatever the issue was? Thanks
that was only an issue with 50 pcbs - the first batch that was sent out - ISP programmers were sent out for free or refunds for ISP programmers were paid to the affected people.
R2 shipping would be after the GB runs.
-
Any update on R2 shipping with the reflash or whatever the issue was? Thanks
that was only an issue with 50 pcbs - the first batch that was sent out - ISP programmers were sent out for free or refunds for ISP programmers were paid to the affected people.
R2 shipping would be after the GB runs.
Are you saying that everyone from R1 should have received theirs already? I was an R1 buyer and haven't yet.
-
I have tracking, but the last day it was updated was the 14th: "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment -> We have received notice that the originating post is preparing to dispatch this mail piece."
How quick should this shipping be?
-
Are you saying that everyone from R1 should have received theirs already? I was an R1 buyer and haven't yet.
no i was saying R2 runs after R1 is finished.
all solid colors are already sent out, wildcard orders are delayed due to issues with getting acrylic which is getting resolved currently.
-
How quick should this shipping be?
that seems to be an issue with USPS batches from the 3rd and 4th going to the US are in this status. we assume its held somewhere for processing. not sure, it's in the hands of USPS.
so far we've seen 2 to 9 days average besides the packages from those two days and only to the US are held back somewhere.
-
Are you saying that everyone from R1 should have received theirs already? I was an R1 buyer and haven't yet.
no i was saying R2 runs after R1 is finished.
all solid colors are already sent out, wildcard orders are delayed due to issues with getting acrylic which is getting resolved currently.
Thanks for the update. I’ll keep an eye out.
-
Received mine this week. 7 days from Poland to France.
-
I received mine today, I'm really digging the frosted and white PCB combo. Thanks! :thumb:
-
Really curious about this, what is it like to type on?
-
Got mine today finally after it arrived at customs October 18th (Stupid USPS holding it so long). Looking forward to building it this weekend. Now to decide if I want to do V2 Zilents, or Trash Pandas.
-
Icy
-
Have the wildcard editions started shipping yet?
-
Have the wildcard editions started shipping yet?
No, not yet. There's a private discord channel for updates on them (still no spoilers, afaik) - you just have to request access. They're in production, last I heard, and will ship possibly this month?
-
Thanks! I can’t wait to see them!
-
So I build my board today and if I quick tap left or right alt it does a combo key that ends up typing "(" or ")" without the quotes. So I sort of think this is intentional, but want to double check if it might be something weird in my soldering.
-
Its intentional
https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/features/feature_space_cadet
-
Will there be another group buy for this? It looks amazing!
-
Will there be another group buy for this? It looks amazing!
holigante channel in the homerow discord is for R2
-
Where is the best place to find documentation for this PCB? I'm not sure how but after a reboot my key bindings changed and now Caps lock is control and vice versa. Also Backspace and \| are swapped and the key I had bound to windows now does nothing. So I'm trying to figure out the key combo if one exists to put it into bootload mode so I can re-flash it without opening the case up.
-
Where is the best place to find documentation for this PCB? I'm not sure how but after a reboot my key bindings changed and now Caps lock is control and vice versa. Also Backspace and \| are swapped and the key I had bound to windows now does nothing. So I'm trying to figure out the key combo if one exists to put it into bootload mode so I can re-flash it without opening the case up.
That sounds a lot like it reset to the original default layout - you can put it into DFU mode by pressing either the little button on the bottom of the PCB or you press the 1u key right of right shift + backspace or you can hold down ESC and while you plug it in.
More help you can get on our discord in the customer support channel: https://discord.gg/T3W3aju
...or by emailing us under support@homerow.co
Let us know how it turns out :)
-
Any chance for an r2?
-
Any chance for an r2?
You should check out the Discord https://discord.gg/rYyCzxm (https://discord.gg/rYyCzxm)
-
Any chance for an r2?
yep what jaxx said, discord, and in more detail as soon as lockdowns are lifted - poland is under a total lockdown since 16th march. this includes airports are closed to passenger travel and the polish post has shut down all air shipments... along a lot of factories and distributors we would use are shut down.
-
Any chance for an r2?
yep what jaxx said, discord, and in more detail as soon as lockdowns are lifted - poland is under a total lockdown since 16th march. this includes airports are closed to passenger travel and the polish post has shut down all air shipments... along a lot of factories and distributors we would use are shut down.
Thanks!
-
Hi does anyone have a link to the discord? Current one is invalid.
-
cannot wait for this I want one plz i was sent by ankitty :p