Close your eyes and the flaws somehow vanish.
I'll trade you the 720p monitor I've been using since 2011 for your old one you are about to get rid of that's undoubtedly still better than my piece of ****.
You spoiled yourself with your fancy calibrations tools and such.
My advice, pick a size and get as close on all the features you want as you can within reason (without spending far too much money) then call it a day. Don't calibrate it, don't even check it with your calibration tool unless you are doing professional work with it, just use it.
All this knowledge and fiddling around has only made you far too much of a perfectionist on something that actually does very little for you other than driving up your cost and expectations.
Get that 49" curved.
You spoiled yourself with your fancy calibrations tools and such.Lol not on this site.
My advice, pick a size and get as close on all the features you want as you can within reason (without spending far too much money) then call it a day. Don't calibrate it, don't even check it with your calibration tool unless you are doing professional work with it, just use it.
All this knowledge and fiddling around has only made you far too much of a perfectionist on something that actually does very little for you other than driving up your cost and expectations.
You spoiled yourself with your fancy calibrations tools and such.Lol not on this site.
My advice, pick a size and get as close on all the features you want as you can within reason (without spending far too much money) then call it a day. Don't calibrate it, don't even check it with your calibration tool unless you are doing professional work with it, just use it.
All this knowledge and fiddling around has only made you far too much of a perfectionist on something that actually does very little for you other than driving up your cost and expectations.
None of this is true for monitors.
You aren't going to add Gsync or a complete color gamut to an older monitor with some soldering or even electronics knowledge.
dual CRTs
and then degauss them both at the same time for ultimate colors
I'll trade you the 720p monitor I've been using since 2011 for your old one you are about to get rid of that's undoubtedly still better than my piece of ****.Please i need an extra monitor to view discord. Would appreciate a square monitor tbh
Please i need an extra monitor to view discord. Would appreciate a square monitor tbh
I agree. It’s not easy to shop for a monitor these days. When I was shopping for mine, USB-C was a requirement I had. That made it almost impossible to shop for any! Good luck to you.
I agree. It’s not easy to shop for a monitor these days. When I was shopping for mine, USB-C was a requirement I had. That made it almost impossible to shop for any! Good luck to you.
what are you connecting to usbc
I bring my work-issues MacBook Pro back home. So I do want to connect the MacBook to the monitor to charge and to display it at the same time (docking mode). And if I’m not using the Mac, the monitor connects to the PC for gaming.I agree. It’s not easy to shop for a monitor these days. When I was shopping for mine, USB-C was a requirement I had. That made it almost impossible to shop for any! Good luck to you.
what are you connecting to usbc
Just get this one: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160376
I do lines. That's how I pay for ****.
But not drug related.
I agree. It’s not easy to shop for a monitor these days. When I was shopping for mine, USB-C was a requirement I had. That made it almost impossible to shop for any! Good luck to you.I'll third this.
Only thing worse than monitor shopping is KVM shopping.
Only thing worse than monitor shopping is KVM shopping.
QFT
Would be curious what you (or others) went with for a 1440p monitor, as well as a decent HDMI KVM switch.
I have a cheap but decent 4 port with USB, sound and VGA. Even that was on closeout for nearly $100 at the time.Only thing worse than monitor shopping is KVM shopping.
QFT
Would be curious what you (or others) went with for a 1440p monitor, as well as a decent HDMI KVM switch.
I have a cheap but decent 4 port with USB, sound and VGA. Even that was on closeout for nearly $100 at the time.Only thing worse than monitor shopping is KVM shopping.
QFT
Would be curious what you (or others) went with for a 1440p monitor, as well as a decent HDMI KVM switch.
Mine had in keyboard switching, you hit a certain key or combo and it switched over, this was great until you start using smaller keyboards that were missing those keys and the fact that the key combo was different in Windows, Linux and Mac (I have all 3). It also needed a special driver/app in Windows if you wanted better control, which would crash. It also disliked attaching a USB hub, only had USB 1.0 throughput, and if you disconnected the machine it was switched to the keyboard would go dead and not allow you to switch. These problems became a major issue when I had the KVM in the basement with my servers/desktop and my office upstairs. I'd hook in a customer system, switch to it and forget to switch back, disconnect aaaand the KVM would stop functioning until I went down stairs and up on a ladder to manually switch it to an actual machine. Even reconnecting the one I removed wouldn't work.
As bad as this sounds, it was better than the in monitor switching on my old monitors.
You hit menu, navigate to port switching (which was slow and several clicks), select it, then the monitor would scan all of the ports looking for connections before switching over. However, if the system was booting, you connected the wrong port or it was not sending a signal that port the monitor would scan all the ports at 1-2 seconds each, then do it a second time, then go to sleep , which it would display for a few seconds. During all of this, all buttons were ignored and once asleep it would go idle for 5 seconds, then powering on took 2 seconds and guess what it did... It immediately started another port scan. The latter of this could be avoided if you set a default port, if nothing was found it simply reverts to the default. However, if you are working on another system and it reboots it would automatically revert back to default at the first flicker of signal loss. Not good if you need to see the Bios boot screen. That wasn't the only problems these screens had, but at least that could be chalked up to being a defect, this was programmed to be this way. Compare this to my Dells where I can program the buttons to fast switch to a different port with a single press...
I've since ditched the KVM (now that I'm free of those monitors), for the number of systems I work on it was cheaper and easier to just get use a combination of remote networking and built in port switching on the monitor, along with a spare mouse and keyboard. When it's easier and cheaper to buy a used monitor, a bunch of dongles, extensions, mice and mechanical keyboards than a KVM, you've seriously failed in your product design.
I'd be interested in your thoughts about the Level 1 Techs KVMs https://store.level1techs.com/?category=Hardware. Seems as though Level 1 Techs is the go to for all things pass-throughI've heard really good things about them and while their prices are really good for what they are, that price still hurts for non enterprise users.
The cost of good kvm is the same as ANOTHER set of keeb+ mouse.Don't forget most don't come with cables, which are $30-$60 per system.
I'd be interested in your thoughts about the Level 1 Techs KVMs https://store.level1techs.com/?category=Hardware. Seems as though Level 1 Techs is the go to for all things pass-throughI've heard really good things about them and while their prices are really good for what they are, that price still hurts for non enterprise users.The cost of good kvm is the same as ANOTHER set of keeb+ mouse.Don't forget most don't come with cables, which are $30-$60 per system.
In the case of Level 1 that means the 4 port single monitor version with all cables is just shy of $600 and the dual monitor version cresting $900.
Don't forget most don't come with cables, which are $30-$60 per system.
In the case of Level 1 that means the 4 port single monitor version with all cables is just shy of $600 and the dual monitor version cresting $900.
I think tp is way WAY over thinking what should be a simple purchase.
I think tp is way WAY over thinking what should be a simple purchase.
U r not thinking @ the correct lvl Nturtle.
Tp4 watches 16:9 and 2:1 aspect ratio movies stretched to 4:3, BECAUSE, he doesn't want the phosphors to wear unevenly..Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RSB9WCf.gif)
I think tp is way WAY over thinking what should be a simple purchase.I agree to a point but it really depends on what you're after and your budget, it's really easy to blow a truckload of money on a screen.
Iunno
After all that you ignored quality and went for a big, cheap screen.
By Vizio.
*facepalm*
No real need to find the perfect monitor if such a thing could exist. This quest is but a diversion to lead you astray. Our eyes deceive us. What you see is at best a limited view of reality which is filtered and condensed through our individual perceptions of reality. To see, truly, one must ascend into a new realm of existence, one which is intertwined with the subatomic levels of the fabric of space and time.
No real need to find the perfect monitor if such a thing could exist. This quest is but a diversion to lead you astray. Our eyes deceive us. What you see is at best a limited view of reality which is filtered and condensed through our individual perceptions of reality. To see, truly, one must ascend into a new realm of existence, one which is intertwined with the subatomic levels of the fabric of space and time.
too much internal monologue while biking
I went with a LG 38WK95-C a few months ago. Ultra wide 4lyfe (is this how the cool kids type these days?)
You should not be here! Freedom, the open road. Escape while you can!I went with a LG 38WK95-C a few months ago. Ultra wide 4lyfe (is this how the cool kids type these days?)
Did you calibrate? :thumb:
An uncalibrated Monitor is an Unhappy monitor.
Also, calibration probes are only $170-230.. If one already spent $1200 on the monitor, seems logical that one would want to see its potential Maximized.
mmmm.... I can understand the Power supply argument if this was a 500watt gaming PC.I was referring to monitor power supplies, I've seen multiples of them die.
But in this case it's a ~100watt LCD.. Cheap power supplies sure, but given how little power it's pushing. If anything, I feel like the LEDs will wear out WAY before the drivers.
What if the calibration probe isn't calibrated correctly or is defective? :-\ I just don't know anymore and my head is spinning. Maybe two different calibration probes are necessary as a sanity check.
I was referring to monitor power supplies, I've seen multiples of them die.
It has nothing to do with how much power but how clean that power is, how good the caps are, is it properly cooled, etc... 10 watts, 100 watts, 500 watts, doesn't matter if it's garbage it's garbage.
By the way, these (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague) are still being used or recycled into the supply chain, I saw some just recently. These are why motherboard manufacturers make such a big deal about their capacitors.
The primary reason I'm not so hung up on this, is because I KNOW for a fact that after ~5000 hours, these panels are spent. No matter how good the power supply is.
Alot of people watch their TVs well beyond the TV's useful age.. Tp4 would not do that. If the panel can't perform at a certain lvl, that's an immediate write off. There's no reason to watch movies on bad monitors, you won't get the time back, so logically one should only watch movie @ the best quality, or Not at all.
The primary reason I'm not so hung up on this, is because I KNOW for a fact that after ~5000 hours, these panels are spent. No matter how good the power supply is.
Alot of people watch their TVs well beyond the TV's useful age.. Tp4 would not do that. If the panel can't perform at a certain lvl, that's an immediate write off. There's no reason to watch movies on bad monitors, you won't get the time back, so logically one should only watch movie @ the best quality, or Not at all.
Tp gonna Tp.
I did not calibrate but I maximize it by playing Division 2 in HDR. Very nice.
I think we should force TP to watch movies on one of my old HP screens...
CCFL tube with 23k hours, 25in, 1080p, horrendous controls, no HDR, no high refresh, massive bezels... And it's GLOSSY.
I would love to see him try calibrating it. :))
I never calibrate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I never calibrate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That's just what you want us to believe ;D
Can you return the bum monitor? I think you should take a loan or sell a kidney and buy an expensive monitor :thumb:
Anti-Walmart propaganda? I like where this thread has gone. More please :)
OKOKOKOK... what about 75 inch.. decent sets are only ~$1300ish,
I have been holding out for 86"... but it doesn't seem they're coming down any..
I trust fanpeople. He seems like he's done the math.OKOKOKOK... what about 75 inch.. decent sets are only ~$1300ish,
I have been holding out for 86"... but it doesn't seem they're coming down any..
You could get like 5 clean hookers for that.
.... or like 26 questionable hookers.
Anti-Walmart propaganda? I like where this thread has gone. More please :)]Cough.. already ordered 2 more samsungs from walmart. Reason ? Clearly panel lottery is p00p from walmart, and they sell people used tvs as new.
Anti-Walmart propaganda? I like where this thread has gone. More please :)]Cough.. already ordered 2 more samsungs from walmart. Reason ? Clearly panel lottery is p00p from walmart, and they sell people used tvs as new.
Not just used, Walmart gets "special" models that have cut features, dead pixels, different plastics, etc...
Sometimes these models have the same part number as they do from other stores but are Walmart exclusives. Black Friday specials are even worse for this.
Thanks for supporting green initiatives such as buying products made with recycled materials or other post-consumer content :thumb: This helps keep electronics from ending up in a landfill or in some third world country where a lot of e-waste ends up.
Thanks for supporting green initiatives such as buying products made with recycled materials or other post-consumer content :thumb: This helps keep electronics from ending up in a landfill or in some third world country where a lot of e-waste ends up.
Except now the ewaste is going 2 mexico and back. usually partially loaded with heroin/fentanyl, but that's another story.
So you are supporting the drug trade now :rolleyes: You might want to open the TV and check for stuff.
Thanks for supporting green initiatives such as buying products made with recycled materials or other post-consumer content :thumb: This helps keep electronics from ending up in a landfill or in some third world country where a lot of e-waste ends up.I don't have a problem with it so long as they state up front that is is what they're doing.
Thanks for supporting green initiatives such as buying products made with recycled materials or other post-consumer content :thumb: This helps keep electronics from ending up in a landfill or in some third world country where a lot of e-waste ends up.I don't have a problem with it so long as they state up front that is is what they're doing.
Again, I hate monitor shopping.
It shouldn't be this difficult to find a good, reasonably priced screen and yet I've been happy with less than half of the screens I've bought over the years.
Thanks for supporting green initiatives such as buying products made with recycled materials or other post-consumer content :thumb: This helps keep electronics from ending up in a landfill or in some third world country where a lot of e-waste ends up.I don't have a problem with it so long as they state up front that is is what they're doing.
Again, I hate monitor shopping.
It shouldn't be this difficult to find a good, reasonably priced screen and yet I've been happy with less than half of the screens I've bought over the years.
I am very upset over the vizio using recycled panels.
You would not be upset if you got a ~~ instead.
You would not be upset if you got a ~~ instead.
Does she come with HDMI 2.1 and ULMB ? These are critical features.
No but she comes with g. It is like having Australian internet speed, but in your body.
No but she comes with g. It is like having Australian internet speed, but in your body.
Sometimes Tp4 wonders, does fanpeep talk like dis all the time, or has his speech been adulterated by stray neural net filter.
The earth is flat.
The earth is flat.
One of us.
I need to get a new monitor. I spent an hour coloring a video the other night on my external monitor. Once I was done I watched it on my MacBook Pro and it looked like crap. I now color on my MacBook.
The deviation is not a huge problem for Movie watching, but you wouldn't do ur color work on this tv, hahaha.
Today, Tp4 measured up the -Other- Samsung flat version ..
WTH.. it only measures 2800:1 contrast vs the 4200:1 on the curved.
rTing reviewed both as having 5200:1, NOTTTT... Don'ever trust Walmart
I mean,, It seems like samsung puts VASTLY different panels into their lower end tvs..
If this was someone else, there's no way they'd know what they were getting.. Pretty BS..
U couldn't trick Tp4, but this is shocking.
It's called market segmentation,and if look closely at the model numbers on those Walmart tv's you will find that they are usually not the same model numbers as what Best Buy/Amazon/et al have as this allows them to claim same model price matching all while knowing they are the only ones carrying that precise model number and won't have to price match it.
was the tv you ended up getting the $406 sale from walmart? seems like a pretty good price to me, but i've been hesitant to look at anything bigger than 43", since i feel like i'm just artificially pushing the screen further away from me just so it doesn't look so huge
was the tv you ended up getting the $406 sale from walmart? seems like a pretty good price to me, but i've been hesitant to look at anything bigger than 43", since i feel like i'm just artificially pushing the screen further away from me just so it doesn't look so huge
I got the 7300 curved 55 from walmart, $433.
The 7200 flat model $400 one I also bought, But I returned because it was crappy. only 2800:1 contrast ratio after calibration.
I'm inclined to keep the Curved 7300 model, which post calibration has 4200:1,
The desk situation depends on how much Living space freedom you have.
The computer desk works just as well in the middle of the room.
The LONGER the distance from your screen to your eyes, the Less viewing fatigue.
This is due to Eye Vergence and Accommodation, both these attributes require the use of your eye's muscles, These fatigue, especially for Upclose viewing
BIGGER TV is ALWAYS BETTER, limited only by ultimate viewing angle once your back is against the wall.
seems like a pretty good model actually, i think i might grab one if it goes on sale again. it's diminishing returns for me fast so i don't think i want to spend more than $400 on any kind of panel. you make a pretty convincing case for the usefulness of the curved screen, which makes me more inclined to get it, than say a comparable TCL TV. i think i can set it up to have 6' of space away from the screen, which seems alright to me, i guess. also i don't know if you know but there's some whack dude on slickdeals who has one of your posts quoted in his bio with a bunch of laugh emotes...lmao
seems like a pretty good model actually, i think i might grab one if it goes on sale again. it's diminishing returns for me fast so i don't think i want to spend more than $400 on any kind of panel. you make a pretty convincing case for the usefulness of the curved screen, which makes me more inclined to get it, than say a comparable TCL TV. i think i can set it up to have 6' of space away from the screen, which seems alright to me, i guess. also i don't know if you know but there's some whack dude on slickdeals who has one of your posts quoted in his bio with a bunch of laugh emotes...lmao
Yea that one, it's 433 after tax for me.
The flat one is 375, 400 after tax.
For 55, anywhere from 6 to 10 feet is good. You'll just adjust the dpi setting if menu items are too small.
I write alot of random things on slickdeals, I didn't know there's a bio. which guy ?
honestly 430 seems pretty reasonable for the curved, i think i would do it given the same sale price, seems like lower than usual though. i'm not sure who it was on sd, just remember seeing tp4tissue and i laughed. i'm talking about the signature in the user profile. i'm honestly a pretty sour personality on slickdeals, all i do is say that things are a bad deal, and once in a blue moon i'm satisfied with what someone is posting. someone better find a good tv deal again soon.
I've never used SlickDeals before. Is it worth checking out? I normally just buy stuff on eBay or Amazon.
I've never used SlickDeals before. Is it worth checking out? I normally just buy stuff on eBay or Amazon.
Slickdeals is like a forum for retail clearance/ promotions.
There is a very Narrow category of products that you can save money on slickdeals, because the bulk of the post space is sold to promoters.
Slickdeals used to be more user oriented, it's more ad oriented now.
Decent equipment sold or no? Just learned of slickdeals not too long ago.
there's some $350 lg tv listed but i checked the contrast on rtings and it showed as 1250:1, seems a little mediocre to me so i'll hold off, though the price is pretty attractive.
hmmm, so my problem is that my room has a large window, and the curtains let in some sunlight during the day, and i usually keep the light on at night. i'd say the lighting conditions are never truly dark, and i'm dealing with some level of reflection all the time. i'm not sure how much i should actually care about contrast above 1000:1 given that my room is rarely actually dark. i've never done curved before but it seems kinda fun to try, so maybe i'll hold off on the LG for now. choices, choicesMovies tend to be watched in darker rooms where bleed through is an issue. They also rarely have massive amounts of pure white so darker blacks are more important than brighter whites which will blind the person watching.
edit: also since my current monitor is PLS, the shiny new thing for me to buy would be curved VA. seems like the most logical choice for me. guess i'll have to start turning off the lights at night :))
ITT: tp comes out as a goth.
I can't even, how on earth can you even grok current URL? golly
I can't even, how on earth can you even grok current URL? golly
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But Also, if you're looking at an image from Tp4 Vision, and your monitor is on factory settings, it is probably crushing some mid-tones, which would make Tp4 txt look less contrasty/visible than it is on Certified Tp4 Screens.
All my screens are functioning within _normal_ parameters. Your URL fg/bg are uber low contrast. I can't even still. btw, T-1000 best robit.. just sayin'
Computer interfaces USED to have alot of black , until the Mass-Consumer era when UI changed to mimic paper/ printed books.
The Movement back to Black is Strong. Tp4 MODE.