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Title: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Dr.Hades on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:45:49
My switch that falls into this category is the NK Creams,what about y'alls?
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: chyros on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:56:34
Cherry MX Brown.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:56:53
Cherry MX Brown.

Truth

I used to be one of those people.

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Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: appaboy on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:59:35
I quite enjoy mx Browns. I really don't get the hate. I also like 30g topre. Maybe I jusr like switches with very low tactility
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 07 May 2019, 12:44:01
I've been using a Velocifire with Outemu Browns, which are supposedly worse than Cherry MX Browns, but I've actually been quite enjoying it (as long as I don't use SA keycaps on them). The weak tactility seemed like a bad idea at first, but it's enough that it changes the sound and feel from a linear enough to be interesting but not so much to tire my fingers.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Tactile on Tue, 07 May 2019, 13:15:13
Topre. But of course
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: TeacherGeek on Tue, 07 May 2019, 14:35:40
Cherry MX Brown.

I assume because it has a good tactile bump for you Thomas?
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 07 May 2019, 14:40:07
modded outemu clears are lit ya'll need to learn how to lube if you think they scratch
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 11 May 2019, 21:30:36
My switch is...

Membrane! :|

Maybe because i'm forced to use it at school...
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: frydaja on Sun, 12 May 2019, 06:07:27
MX Browns, but that has been already said, so...

CoolerMaster's mem-chanical.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 12 May 2019, 06:25:13
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: frydaja on Sun, 12 May 2019, 07:17:23
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards

I've tried those, and yeah, they do feel like a rubberdome.

CoolerMaster's memchanicals are also rubberdomes, but they're less tactile and very smooth.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: swedishpiehole on Sun, 12 May 2019, 16:09:02
Topre. But of course
A good amount of people hate Topre? They must be the ones that haven't tried Topre.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Dr.Hades on Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:06:09
Topre. But of course
A good amount of people hate Topre? They must be the ones that haven't tried Topre.

Some people dislike the idea of any form of rubber domes as they will undeniably be mushier than a plastic counterpart. Me personally though, I don't mind it but if there is one thing that all of us can agree on it's that we'd all much rather pay 300 for a full metal body rather than a plastic fame. (Also yes I know the FC660 exist but even that thing still uses plastic for most of it's body)
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: chyros on Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:05:26
Cherry MX Brown.

I assume because it has a good tactile bump for you Thomas?
In my opinion, its "tactile bump" isn't strong enough that I could consider it more than background noise or an artefact.

I like to think that I've made at least some people aware that there are actually tactile alternatives out there and that people shouldn't settle for mediocrity just because it's convenient.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:42:17
I like the feedback of blues.  They give me alive feelings
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 15 May 2019, 02:45:33
Me personally though, I don't mind it but if there is one thing that all of us can agree on it's that we'd all much rather pay 300 for a full metal body rather than a plastic fame. (Also yes I know the FC660 exist but even that thing still uses plastic for most of it's body)
There's IKBC if you want cheaper all metal frames (MF87 and MF108)
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sup on Wed, 15 May 2019, 04:44:49
Gateron Red
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 15 May 2019, 05:06:49
Cherry MX Brown.

I personally feel that Cherry MX Brown's are just a rubber dome without the rubbery part, and is more comfortable to type on because you don't feel the rubbery part.

Sorry, but i'm all linear.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: TeacherGeek on Wed, 15 May 2019, 17:45:51
Cherry MX Brown.

I assume because it has a good tactile bump for you Thomas?
In my opinion, its "tactile bump" isn't strong enough that I could consider it more than background noise or an artefact.

I like to think that I've made at least some people aware that there are actually tactile alternatives out there and that people shouldn't settle for mediocrity just because it's convenient.

I actually listened some of your reviews about those Cherry MX Browns and have now realise your comment was sarcasm.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: killyou on Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:05:16
Cherry MX Blue. I like them but on the other hand I just installed Kailh BOX Pinks and they are superb however tad too hard for my fingers. I'm contemplating changing the springs. Apart from the better stability, lack of click jacket and sound/feel Kailh BOX Pinks have a good ratio between tactile force and bottom out force. They feel very natural to type on and definitely faster than MX Blue but that didn't make me dislike Blues. I don't think I'll be getting rid of the Blues but won't be my to-go clicky switch as of now.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:21:04
unlubed ergo clear
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: flurryvelvet on Fri, 17 May 2019, 02:54:06
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards

memchanical? some of 'em are just dome with sliders
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: chyros on Fri, 17 May 2019, 03:13:02
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards

memchanical? some of 'em are just dome with sliders
Razer mecha membrane isn't even dome with slider as I recall, it's just a noisy rubber dome.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 17 May 2019, 06:30:10
Every switch has a good amount of people who hate it, the hard part is finding a switch most people actually like.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: natAT on Fri, 17 May 2019, 07:22:07
I often use the mostly disliked Fujitsu Peerless switches (in a clean FKB4725, where the stabilizers haven’t been worn to heck). Nowhere near “great” switches, but they are usable. The board is also very tough and has survived a lot. 

I travel a fair bit internationally with family for long periods and I often can't take my more valuable boards with me. The Peerless is a decent (if big and heavy) compromise.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: frydaja on Fri, 17 May 2019, 09:04:38
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards

memchanical? some of 'em are just dome with sliders
Razer mecha membrane isn't even dome with slider as I recall, it's just a noisy rubber dome.

Unremarkable too. Take the clicker out and it will feel the same as a 15$ HP keyboard. Both keyfeel and case texture.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: kurplop on Fri, 17 May 2019, 12:04:48
Cherry ML. Been using them exclusively for years. Love the sound, shorter activation point, and smaller profile. Most of the stickiness from off-presses goes away in time.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: _izix on Fri, 17 May 2019, 13:09:41
I love my Box Royals but most people at my work who try it do not like how tactile it is.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sintpinty on Fri, 17 May 2019, 13:13:47
Cherry ML. Been using them exclusively for years. Love the sound, shorter activation point, and smaller profile. Most of the stickiness from off-presses goes away in time.
At leasts its not cherry my  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Dr.Hades on Wed, 22 May 2019, 09:58:21
This picked up much more traction than I thought it would so I'm just gonna leave another controversial switch that I use right here -> Holy Pandas
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Tactile on Wed, 22 May 2019, 10:06:42
Cherry ML. Been using them exclusively for years. Love the sound, shorter activation point, and smaller profile. Most of the stickiness from off-presses goes away in time.

I have an ML4100 in the closet which I pull out about once a year. Mine is one without Windows keys. I always enjoy the typing feel and I also think it's a very clever design with the embedded numpad. I usually use it for about a day, nodding and saying, "This is a really nice keyboard" to myself. Then it goes back into the closet. Don't know why - I'm just not a 75% keyboard guy, I guess.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 22 May 2019, 12:02:18
Razer has mem-chanical as well.

Mem-chamical is basically mechanical-keyboard tryhards

memchanical? some of 'em are just dome with sliders
Razer mecha membrane isn't even dome with slider as I recall, it's just a noisy rubber dome.

If you're me, than any rubber dome is a "noisy rubber dome"
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: _haru on Wed, 22 May 2019, 19:36:47
MX White.
Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 22 May 2019, 19:47:08
My switch is...

Membrane! :|

Maybe because i'm forced to use it at school...
Really?
This (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atari-400-Comp.jpg) and this (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ZX80.jpg) is what membrane keyboards look like.

Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2019, 19:59:36
MX White.
Are they any better about being consistent? Back in the day you never knew how much click you were going to get.

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Title: Re: What's that one switch you use that you know that a good amount of people hate?
Post by: _haru on Thu, 23 May 2019, 00:06:43
MX White.
Are they any better about being consistent? Back in the day you never knew how much click you were going to get.

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Yup, they were retooled at some point in the last few years. Spring is slightly lighter than the old variant and there is no inconsistency any more :)