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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Blackbird++ on Sun, 23 May 2010, 05:27:59
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Hey guys,
I'm interested in what you think could be the fastest possible keyboard-like input device in the future! Which means in every way, including the ergonomic solution, the key layout and the type of switches.
I'm sure that the mouse of the future will be something with touchscreens or voice control. But the keyboard? Even if it would only become necessary, if the grafical / voice interface crashes down...
My idea was, maybe a touchscreen-keyboard with TypeMatrix-like Neo layout or something. Would be fast, because of no mechanical elements in it - the typist feedback could be a short vibration, like in some touchscreen mobiles.
What do you think?
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Microphones.
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First... you're almost in total duplication of another current thread:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=10068
Second... the fastest possible keyboard-like input device will be a... keyboard.
Every form of input has its limitations. Different devices and different applications will adopt a blend of different forms of input, but keyboards are going to be in the mix and will remain very relevant. It all depends on what you're doing, where you're doing it, and the conditions under which it needs to be done.
Voice has its limitations. I don't mean the technology. I mean your vocal chords and human ability to use your voice with perfect fidelity. How well do you sing and how long can you sing before you lose your voice?
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someones been watching V.
the aliens will come and laugh at our mediocre technology
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someones been watching V.
the aliens will come and laugh at our mediocre technology
the Japanese are already doing that
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Neural network interface.
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The future is now.
Is it coincidence that the starting view of that video is someone making a "Loser" sign against the iPad?
(http://www.canmag.com/images/front/tv/glee3.jpg)
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I can't listen to any songs from Glee.
The amount that Autotune is used on that show.... they sound like robots. I don't mean that in a way like "Oh, my god, every note is perfect!"
The vocal jumps are impossible and you can hear when their pitch is corrected.
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Um... That's nice.
(picture of the cheer-leading coach showing what a loser she is)
These kids CAN sing.
Some of them more than others, but some of them have vocal talent and some are just actors/actresses.
"Don't Stop Believin" was particularly bad on the female side. The note jumps were completely artificial.
EDIT: For one of many examples in which it's glaringly obvious in the previously mentioned song, listen to when she says "born and raised in south Detroit"
EDIT 2: Another couple particularly flagrant examples are the first time she goes "It goes on and on and on and on[/i]" and "Strangers, waiting[/u], up and down the boulevard".
It's evident throughout the entire song, but those are just two flagrant examples.
The guy probably isn't any better, but he has a much easier part and not nearly the same range to cover.
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Glee.
The amount that Autotune is used on that show.
YES! at last, someone who knows.
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We aren't. (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b150204_glees_great_music_aint.html)
Not by far.
And the worst part is that there are a couple of genuinely awesome people on the show (most of them can sing decently, but some are better than others), and they get ridiculously vocally "corrected".
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man you guys have **** taste in music, that's all I can say
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man you guys have **** taste in music, that's all I can say
You can't tell me you don't love Gunther.
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Wyclef Jean and Nikki Yanofsky sing "Electric City."
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I think the current stenotype techniques approach the fastest keyboard-type input you can have. At 300 WPM+ I believe it gets tough to perceive or come up with words fast enough to type them. :)
(I seem to remember that a fast speaker approaches 300 WPM whereas a fast head can easily think around 800 WPM - however, this kind of fast word-thinking is probably somewhat non-verbal so I don't know if it's a fair comparison. People who "read" 2000 WPM certainly don't enter the equation because they're apparently really taking mental snapshots of the pages and not reading them through word by word.)
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I just saw the movie 'Iron Man'. In that, Tony Stark uses that kind of keyboard I'm possibly talking about. Look at the picture.
I'd say it an ergonomic touchscreen keyboard.
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It's not a real band unless they've performed at least once while wearing bell bottom jeans:
Better yet:
Listen to the guy on the right near the end, when he's singing an octave up and they keep changing key upwards on him. He's still hitting the notes; no autotune, no editing, no helium, just talent. Granted, he sounds like a pokemon with its tail caught in a blender, but he's hitting the notes at least.
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Yay for Bee Gees
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Here is a link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velotype
to an article about a keyboard which improves on the Stenotype and Palantype keyboards, using the principle that instead of typing a letter at a time, one types a whole syllable at a time, pressing several keys at once.
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I wonder how fast sign language can go? It should be fairly easy to get a camera to view sign language and decode it in real time. (If effort is put into it of course.)
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I wonder how fast sign language can go? It should be fairly easy to get a camera to view sign language and decode it in real time. (If effort is put into it of course.)
Most sign languages are kinda like writing in Japanese. There are two sets of signs, where the one used for normal conversation consists of one sign per word. The other one, used for the alphabet is not used very much as it is very slow in comparison.
What really sets sign language apart from written language, however, is that much of the grammar and punctuation is expressed using facial expressions, and not by the signs themselves. I think that would be the largest technical obstacle...
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Hey guys,
I'm interested in what you think could be the fastest possible keyboard-like input device in the future! Which means in every way, including the ergonomic solution, the key layout and the type of switches.
I'm sure that the mouse of the future will be something with touchscreens or voice control. But the keyboard? Even if it would only become necessary, if the grafical / voice interface crashes down...
My idea was, maybe a touchscreen-keyboard with TypeMatrix-like Neo layout or something. Would be fast, because of no mechanical elements in it - the typist feedback could be a short vibration, like in some touchscreen mobiles.
What do you think?
I think you'd bottom out a little too much on a touch screen.