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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: grilkip on Sun, 23 May 2010, 10:25:20
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290437472767
I don't know the first thing about this board but it looked interesting.
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I like that badass double width Esc key btw.
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I thought those things used fake Alps... did you mod it?
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So, how's the feel?
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It doesnt look like a double shot keyboard on ebay
last one like this was sold at 40$
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"Confucius say man who buy Alps get the shaft, and lose himself chasing rainbow."
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I have yet to hear of a fake Alps with the Alps logo printed on to the housing. Much to everyone's confusion, the reverse is not true...
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What about all the switches made by companies other than Alps that weren't official Alps designs? Fake sounds like a good name to me.
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None of these boards that I have seen before had switches with Alps logos on them. Perhaps they switched from Alps to another source at some point during the product's life.
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this guy (http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Eduelist/kb-7061/)
... has a couple more interesting boards. Hey Webwit, got this one (http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~duelist/flexpro/index.htm) in your collection already?
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It's most likely Complicated Clicky ALPS.
White complicated Alps in good condition feel great though. I say simplified.
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The real and fake thing is distinct from real and complicated. It's to do with whether they were made to Alps' specifications, or whether they were just a cheap knock off.
Why the distinction? Because everyone around here who likes Alps switches seems to like either the complicated Alps, or the Alps' simplified design (which is the one also made by Fukka). The fake ones made by the likes of XM, Strongman etc seem to be rather unpopular. It's a pretty nice of deliniating the good stuff from the bad without getting into this meaningless and unintuituve "Simplified Type X" nonsense.
But maybe that's just me.
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What makes you think that?
There are Alps made simplified swtiches, and I think it would be safe to assume that they came along at some point during the 90s or so... quite conceivable that Fukka bought them out and kept churning them out. I mean, they were around before the whole ABS/Filco Zero thing kicked off.
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ALPS themselves had so many variations over the years, then when you add the aftermarket versions to it, it becomes tricky. I never cared for the Real vs. Fake because some "fakes" are better than some "reals" and vice-versa. And Montereys are fantastic (which some call Fake alps) There are so many different combinations of leafs, sliders, housings, mountings, etc. - then you apply different springs to them and that changes each one's response. Try different caps and in different boards and the range of ALPS can go from crap to incredible. I've experienced a similar range in Cherry Blue switches, some click, some thud, some are barely tactile. Interestingly, I don't feel that much difference in Browns but I do feel it in blues. My Dolch cherry blue board (early 90's) and West German Cherry (late 80's) are lighter than my new G80-3000LSRC-2
I have an Ortek with ALPS that would make anyone fall to their knees in gratitude they got to experience such a fantastic feeling of oneness with mechanical wonder. I don't even want to take the switches apart but I will at some point and will post photos. I had a pink ALPS board that to me wasn't anything special but to some it's like Beluga Caviar. I love my Northgate, SIIG minitouch, Ortek and a few Apple boards, I don't care as much for the AT101W in comparison, though it is a very well made keyboard and is only cheap IMO because there is a very large supply of them out there. I just don't like the echo chamber it has and it's switches are ho hum, just ok with rattly caps. But I've also experienced a wide range of feel in just AT101W's alone.
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Woody Allen say, "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle Is Everywhere"
You never know when a famous director is going to divorce his beautiful wife and marry their adopted daughter of 10 years ... until you see Woody Allen do it.
Genetics aside, imagine raising a child and then ****ing her. What a creepy old **** he turned out to be.
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I'm surprised no one noticed, the logo for that keyboard awfully resembles rare:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/RareLogo.png)
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"As you can see from this n-dimensional graph, Commander Riker, there were no more than 47,654,642 permutations of Alps switch types in the 21st century. It was quite simple really."