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Title: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated 14 SEP 2020)
Post by: johnatzap on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:16:05
UPDATE: 14 SEP 2020

Polycarbonate/Brass Bumper available for pre-order now.

We're offering a limited number (50) of Polycarbonate Bumpers for pre-sale, available now (while quantities last)! A fair amount has changed since our original post, though for the most part the design has remained pretty much the same.

https://zapcables.com/bumper-60-keyboard-case/

Images as well as description of what's included can be seen at the above link. This pre-sale is for the case only, there is no plate or PCB included. Bumper will accommodate a standard 60% PCB.


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Bumper

Round with age and groaning from the weight of technological advancement, Bumper is a tray-mount 60% keyboard case longing for the good old days.

(https://i.imgur.com/lc1Y8m0.jpg)

Bumper’s main design features are her round, smooth contours and her interchangeable side insert pieces. We refer to them as “flippers.”

Some initial specifications:
  • Measurements: 31 x 13.5 x 3.2 cm / 12.25 x 5.25 x 1.25 in
  • Total weight: 1.8 kg / 4 lbs. assembled (with aluminum body and polycarbonate flippers)
  • Typing angle: 7°
  • Case material options: CNC’d aluminum or polycarbonate
  • Side insert (flipper) material options: CNC’d aluminum or polycarbonate or brass
  • Coating: Cerakote (various colors)

Bumper will come with: 1x body, 2x flippers (1 left and 1 right), M2 screws for a PCB (PCB not included), flat black hex M2 screws for the flippers, mini hex wrench for flipper screws, neoprene non-slip footings with pressure-sensitive adhesive, box, sticker, longing.

There will likely be no 60% PCB. Nor plate. Nothing at all but the delicious, sloping curves of a keyboard case that’s been around the block many times, slapping away would-be interlopers as it goes.

However, there will be downloadable files you can use to produce or print your own flippers! There will also be the opportunity to purchase extra sets of flippers in different colors, so you can get the most out of your Bumper. Swap ‘em, trade ‘em, make your own!

She pops, she rolls, she ramps, she pings. She may even light up. And if you can’t already tell, Bumper likes pinball! You could call it her...inspiration.

GB plans:
  • Date: Will be announced once second round of prototypes is in-hand and confirmed good (which should be the end of July).
  • Quantity: MOQ will be low. Probably 50.
  • Price: TBD. Likely in the mid-$200s.

Initial Prototype & Render Gallery (https://imgur.com/a/NRhzpuZ)

Interest Check Form (https://forms.gle/tptkNK3nD69RnqiA8)

Updates:

June 2, 2019
  • Here's a better look at how the polycarbonate flippers look with the threaded holes tapped and black screws inserted: https://imgur.com/dvYQFYp (https://imgur.com/dvYQFYp)
  • There has been a lot of interest in a PCB/plate add-on option, so we are exploring those options
  • We've made some small design tweaks to the prototype and are having a new prototype made to share before the GB, so we can communicate clearly how the final Bumper run will look

July 10, 2019

Sorry things have been taking longer than expected, but, hey…things have been taking longer than expected. We have just placed an order for a second round of prototypes (including a polycarbonate keyboard body and a set of brass flippers), which we should have in-hand in about 3 weeks.

Once we get those in, tested for fit, and are feeling good about them, we will be ready to announce an initial small group buy! Details on that will come as soon as we get the round 2 prototypes in the shop and inspected.

Here is a short list of the tweaks we made form the round 1 prototype, based on the feedback we've received over the past several weeks:
  • Tightened the gaps around the border of the keycaps
  • Made the shine-through cutout holes on the sides of the keyboard body into one large hole (where originally it was two separate holes on each side)
  • Slightly tweaked the thickness of flippers and made them flatter on the inside face, which we hope will help the fit and also make it easier to create custom flippers
  • Made case slightly higher profile
  • Made it a 4-post mounting design instead of the traditional 6-post design

We’re really excited to see the new prototypes in person, and think they will yield a pretty sweet, clean (and hefty) board :)


More Discussion in our Discord (https://discord.gg/2EKpKy)
Title: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:18:10
That last render

Love the shape of the board too. I like them curves!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: audiosl4ve on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:19:35
Looking bumpy. Love it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: fcoury on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:20:21
I really like the design, reminds me of the pingmaster profile. The only thing I am not sold is the side glow. I think it may need more diffusion?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:21:36
That last render

Love the shape of the board too. I like them curves!
Those curves are soooo sexy. I also like the idea of modular side weights.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: johnatzap on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:25:42
I really like the design, reminds me of the pingmaster profile. The only thing I am not sold is the side glow. I think it may need more diffusion?
May be possible. We can look into some other material options perhaps. Thanks for the note!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: worldspawn on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:51:17
Option for switch installation in the flippers? Wanna get my pinball on  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:53:25
Option for switch installation in the flippers? Wanna get my pinball on  ;)
ROFL breh...
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: lendflat on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:56:51
Polycarbonate body with brass flippers......WOW
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 23 May 2019, 09:01:44
Polycarbonate body with brass flippers......WOW

You read my mind!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Riba on Thu, 23 May 2019, 09:38:17
Really elegant, reminds me of Memotech. :)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Memotech_MTX500.jpg)

I wish it was something like 75% though. Good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Fallakin on Thu, 23 May 2019, 10:04:09
I have a dream of Purple with Brass flippers and I have a MIGHTY need.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: johnatzap on Thu, 23 May 2019, 10:10:42
Option for switch installation in the flippers? Wanna get my pinball on  ;)

Now I want this. It'd be cool if the flippers themselves were buttons...paddles, more like. Sounds like a v2 feature ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Cee on Thu, 23 May 2019, 11:58:26
Looks nice, but any plans to reduce that gap between the case and caps?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: cjt9000 on Thu, 23 May 2019, 12:33:40
Looks nice, but any plans to reduce that gap between the case and caps?

If you mean the gap between the bottoms of the caps, and the top edge of the case, at least in the renders it looks like it was designed to match the bottoms of GMK caps, I know DSA can tend to have slightly shorter side walls vs GMK, which is why it kinda looks like there's a bit of a gap.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Cee on Thu, 23 May 2019, 13:57:29
Looks nice, but any plans to reduce that gap between the case and caps?

If you mean the gap between the bottoms of the caps, and the top edge of the case, at least in the renders it looks like it was designed to match the bottoms of GMK caps, I know DSA can tend to have slightly shorter side walls vs GMK, which is why it kinda looks like there's a bit of a gap.

In the renders gallery look at the pics with GMK Olivia, still has that gap.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: johnatzap on Thu, 23 May 2019, 16:22:33
Looks nice, but any plans to reduce that gap between the case and caps?

Sure, I think I understand what you are talking about there. We don't have plans to make any changes in that respect, but if it seems like something that raises concern for people we can certainly look at it. I'll get some better images of the case with some GMK caps on it tomorrow and post some images that show it a little better!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 23 May 2019, 16:29:51
I really dig the design! I have two suggestions that might make it more appealing?

1. The spacing could be tighter around the keycaps.

2. Maybe a little higher profile to completely hide the switches?

Either way its a real dope design! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 23 May 2019, 17:14:55
hmm i really like this, any plans for other flipper materials?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 23 May 2019, 20:25:34
Love the design! Is be much more interested in a tkl or 1800 layout though.

And that polycarb/brass looks so damn good  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Ashardalon on Thu, 23 May 2019, 21:06:17
The polycarbonate with brass looks fantastic, I'd also love that in the purple. Love the interesting design!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Jonathan0903 on Thu, 23 May 2019, 21:45:05
Disgustingly, painfully thick. I'll take 5 :)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: jariss on Fri, 24 May 2019, 00:04:47
Love this! Curious to see how this will compare to a ca66. Will it be as hollow and the sound resonate as much?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: jyon on Fri, 24 May 2019, 00:47:20
I'm loving that design. Both the white and purple bodies with the black or brass flippers. Absolute beauty
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 24 May 2019, 08:41:48
Holy crap, this is a crazy look. I'm probably in just for this.

(https://i.imgur.com/JNexXiV.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: ideus on Fri, 24 May 2019, 09:05:07
If there is a not so expensive version I may be in. I do have a pretty small budget for KB this year.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: johnatzap on Fri, 24 May 2019, 14:11:12
Love this! Curious to see how this will compare to a ca66. Will it be as hollow and the sound resonate as much?

We'll get a sound test made soon. It doesn't sound hollow IMO...it is made from a single milled piece of aluminum, so it's solid.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 24 May 2019, 14:11:59
Love this! Curious to see how this will compare to a ca66. Will it be as hollow and the sound resonate as much?

We'll get a sound test made soon. It doesn't sound hollow IMO...it is made from a single milled piece of aluminum, so it's solid.
Thicc boi
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Meursault on Fri, 24 May 2019, 15:01:03
The brass bumper model is downright beautiful, it  might even be an upgrade to my £15 aliexpress effort ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: 1corazon on Fri, 24 May 2019, 19:39:26
Count me in and take all my  money!!!!!!!!!!!    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 25 May 2019, 20:32:24
The threading in the polycarbonate bumpers isn't as pretty as if they were just snug fit, or if they had small clips, but it might be the most secure
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Fallakin on Tue, 28 May 2019, 06:11:08
Wondering if a layout like this would be possible. Highly interested, especially if I can replicate this layout.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 28 May 2019, 07:52:06
Interested,

+1 for countersunk caps ( A MUST ) 
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 30 May 2019, 04:53:48
Wondering if a layout like this would be possible. Highly interested, especially if I can replicate this layout.

Thanks!

No PCB, no plate. This is just a standard 60% tray mount case.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Fallakin on Thu, 30 May 2019, 09:31:19
Welp, I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 30 May 2019, 09:33:42
Any chance of HHKB form factor?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 30 May 2019, 11:57:10
Will there be a limit to how many are made or will it be relatively unrestricted?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: johnatzap on Sun, 02 June 2019, 07:39:50
Will there be a limit to how many are made or will it be relatively unrestricted?

There will be a limit, we'll likely cap it at either 50 or 100. We'd like to keep it small at first to help us control the process as best we can, and minimize any impact of unforeseen issues. We'll make sure we communicate the availability when we announce a GB date.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: fer.real on Sun, 02 June 2019, 07:57:22
Polycarbonate with brass, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: slimydog on Sun, 02 June 2019, 17:37:18
White with brass flippers is so clean.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: gregoryturtle on Mon, 03 June 2019, 01:54:12
Holy crap, this is a crazy look. I'm probably in just for this.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JNexXiV.jpg)


+1 I'm in just for this
+1 To ensuring bottom of keycaps are hidden (high profile case)

Loving this design, thanks for the hard work!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Dreem on Wed, 12 June 2019, 16:48:44
I signed up just to say how hot and bothered this got me.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 14 June 2019, 23:57:17
I signed up just to say how hot and bothered this got me.
Agreed, this thing is really hot. Despite the apparent lack of interest I still think its going to be tough to get a spot... a lurker barrage seems pretty likely :p
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: johnatzap on Wed, 10 July 2019, 16:41:23
We hope there is good interest! "Lurker Barrage" sounds like the name of an amazing pinball game, actually.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 10 July 2019, 18:05:20
I already have too many 60% and may have to prioritise, but i really do love how this looks  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: Azureshell on Thu, 11 July 2019, 13:03:53
I guess I'm jumping on the bandwagon. I thought it was pretty cool, then I saw the polycarbonate brass and whoa.

You mentioned interchange flippers. Will there be options it buy multiple colors or is it just an opportunity for future versions?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: johnatzap on Thu, 11 July 2019, 14:58:28
I guess I'm jumping on the bandwagon. I thought it was pretty cool, then I saw the polycarbonate brass and whoa.

You mentioned interchange flippers. Will there be options it buy multiple colors or is it just an opportunity for future versions?

There will be the option for additional sets of flippers, yes!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 12 July 2019, 05:17:32
Interested in polycarb+brass, and also interested to know what the typing feel/sound is like.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: IvarLJ on Fri, 12 July 2019, 06:10:16
Also very interested on this design. Discord link on the latest update doesn’t seem to work, though.


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Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 12 July 2019, 07:56:41
You had me at polycarb + brass.

Seriously this is an superb design but I will say this again.  I don't want any more 60%.  Make it 66% at least, 70% or better still give us a full size in this design with ISO included.   There are enough 60% around.

If you were to make it 100% or even 100% - FKeys it would look very like the keyboard of the 1980 Memotech 512 computers.  You could have a black and red plates.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 12 July 2019, 08:01:22
You had me at polycarb + brass.

Seriously this is an superb design but I will say this again.  I don't want any more 60%.  Make it 66% at least, 70% or better still give us a full size in this design with ISO included.   There are enough 60% around.

If you were to make it 100% or even 100% - FKeys it would look very like the keyboard of the 1980 Memotech 512 computers.  You could have a black and red plates.

I agree, bigger than 60 would be nice, but on the other hand one of the reasons the format is so popular is that it’s easy to design a tray mount case. Most 60s use the same mounting points based on the Poker, and so it’s easy for beginners to build a board and just upgrade the case, and you don’t need to design a custom PCB etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 14 July 2019, 04:42:43
This project could be very close the the legend that was the Memotech MTX-512.

(http://www.29bit.com/geekhack/memotech-mtx-512.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: Karni on Fri, 19 July 2019, 10:59:16
This looks great, what are possible color combinations? Also discord link is expired :/
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 23 July 2019, 22:11:37
I would also be interested in a discord link. Hopefully this becomes available for sale a couple months from now, the amount of buys running this July and August (and competing for my limited budget :p) is insane.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 24 July 2019, 18:49:44
Here's the one from Zap Cable's website:  https://discord.gg/5gBYd2b
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:24:14
Looking for a nice 60% case that comes in either orange or blue. Hoping this will be the one.

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Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 21 October 2019, 14:32:37
Is this project dead?
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 21 October 2019, 18:17:48
Is this project dead?
I hope not, its really cute and well designed but didn't generate very much buzz the first time around. I really hope it still happens.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: beekey on Tue, 22 October 2019, 00:48:08
Is this project dead?
I hope not, its really cute and well designed but didn't generate very much buzz the first time around. I really hope it still happens.
Me too, want one! With several flippers.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: nasp on Tue, 22 October 2019, 00:54:41
Saw a prototype in person at a meetup. It was nicer than I was expecting and also quite heavy. You'd be surprised how heavy it is - it had the brass inserts. One of the heaviest 60% at the meetup.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated July 10)
Post by: Rayndalf on Sun, 24 November 2019, 14:28:41
Is bumper dead or just sleeping? I want to make sure I set aside enough so I'm ready.
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated 14 SEP 2020)
Post by: johnatzap on Mon, 14 September 2020, 12:22:04
Back from the dead, I guess. For a moment, anyway :)
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated 14 SEP 2020)
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 14 September 2020, 12:25:32
Back from the dead, I guess. For a moment, anyway :)
sik.
any chance for optional removable middle posts? tryna get on this plateless oring plate mount train
EDIT: didn't even see that it's already 4 posts, my b!
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated 14 SEP 2020)
Post by: johnatzap on Mon, 14 September 2020, 12:35:41
No removable posts on this go-round. We have some polycarbonate/brass cases available for pre-order now at this link (capped at 50), you can see some more pics and get info there!

https://zapcables.com/bumper-60-keyboard-case/
Title: Re: [IC] Bumper: a 60% keyboard case (Updated 14 SEP 2020)
Post by: Cloods on Sat, 19 September 2020, 02:59:06
still a sucker for full frosted boards, the underglow potential is real