Ordered! Looks great
I like the engraving, even more so after realising that it's based on the Orion constellation. Ordered!
Ordered!
What does a brother have to do to get the weight design files for Duck keyboards?
Here's my story: I am in a close group of mech enthusiasts who among us, own more than several Duck keyboards. We live in a place where access to brass machining service is easy and affordable, which means we can have the weights made for our boards at costs considerably lower than those of this GB (and the previous ones), let alone shipping to our country which is expensive. I have been trying to contact relevant individuals and ask for their permission to use the files strictly for non-commercial use, but no luck at all.
My argument is: Duck keyboards, fantastic as they are, are incomplete products without the weights. That's why they put the weight compartment there in the first place. It is simply frustrating for us to have paid thousands of dollars in total for what we consider incomplete, and then have to join a separate GB to be able to complete them while we have the ability do it ourselves at lower cost, with less waiting time and arguably of better quality, if the designs are shared.
Please don't get me wrong, my words mean no harm to this GB. In fact, I wish it the best of luck as it provides the exact solution that many people need. But not us, and I'm quite sure there are Duck keyboard owners out there who feel the same way as we do. Based on my experience in this community, GB runners sharing design files is a fairly common practice, for instance, the SAIB-CP was missing the weight the its runner did publish the file after GB finished.
I was about to give up on my venture and sit on my frustration, but I can't, now that this GB came up conveniently right before the conclusion of the Orion V3 GB, meanwhile my reasonable request (I think) has been largely ignored.
My only hesitation in giving out Duck's files is just that- they aren't mine to distribute. He has been EXTREMELY kind to me offering the files and measurements and help as I've gone through the weight projects. He's an insanely nice person and I will always support his buys for that alone. However, I feel funny passing on something given to me that isn't mine. That said, I'm 99% sure he won't mind, it's just something I don't feel is my right to decide for him.
He knows about my projects, obviously and I'm sure he'd be fine with yours. I will ask him next time I have the chance if he's ok with me passing it along to you because like you said, these boards need weights. Merlin did a fantastic job on the early runs and as he was busy, I've tried to pick these up just to help out. You're right, you can surely do them at lower costs outside of the US- I'm stomaching the cost here (and those choosing to order are doing the same) because I'm making them locally in small batches, which is a bit spendy.
Ordered! Looks greatI like the engraving, even more so after realising that it's based on the Orion constellation. Ordered!Ordered!
Awesome- thank you all for ordering!! Glad that you like the new engraving design, Gaiden outdid himself this time!
The engraved weight shown above hasn't been polished yet, is that correct?
Maybe it is the lighting, the polished weight (#2) is a lot shinier than the engraved one.
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My only hesitation in giving out Duck's files is just that- they aren't mine to distribute. He has been EXTREMELY kind to me offering the files and measurements and help as I've gone through the weight projects. He's an insanely nice person and I will always support his buys for that alone. However, I feel funny passing on something given to me that isn't mine. That said, I'm 99% sure he won't mind, it's just something I don't feel is my right to decide for him.
He knows about my projects, obviously and I'm sure he'd be fine with yours. I will ask him next time I have the chance if he's ok with me passing it along to you because like you said, these boards need weights. Merlin did a fantastic job on the early runs and as he was busy, I've tried to pick these up just to help out. You're right, you can surely do them at lower costs outside of the US- I'm stomaching the cost here (and those choosing to order are doing the same) because I'm making them locally in small batches, which is a bit spendy.
Thanks for the kind words, Steve. I totally understand your ground, that's why I didn't want to put you in a difficult situation by asking further and went straight to Duck after that. I've pursued this little project for quite a while and seemed to reach a dead end, so I was just venting my frustration, not meaning to call anyone out.
It's possible that I've been knocking the wrong door, and I'd really appreciate it if you could put in a word or two to see if he's ok with the idea. Again, best of luck with the GB!
In for one.
Does it come with the screws?
Sweet in for an engraved one
I think I'm confused about the weights, this will be my first board with one. Is this an internal weight? AKA this will NOT be visible on the bottom of the board once built? And if so, does that mean after installing this weight, the bottom of the case will still have that empty recessed area with the "X" logo that looks like a weight is supposed to go there?
Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.
It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!
I’m in for one.
GLWGB
I think I'm confused about the weights, this will be my first board with one. Is this an internal weight? AKA this will NOT be visible on the bottom of the board once built? And if so, does that mean after installing this weight, the bottom of the case will still have that empty recessed area with the "X" logo that looks like a weight is supposed to go there?
Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.
It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!
I’m in for one.
Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.
It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!
I’m in for one.
Thanks for the explanation. I think that info would be useful to have in the OP. Yeah I saw the ones on kbdlab, those are what I'm interested in. I didn't even realize that there aren't screw holes or anything to secure an external weight, so that's pretty embarrassing. I'm not sure I would've joined Orion v3 had I fully grasped the bottom case design, lol whoops.
I was invoiced for an amount of zero dollars. I'm international though; was that intentional?
Filled out form last week, no invoice :(
Thanks Steve!Filled out form last week, no invoice :(
Coming this evening- and yours is over at polishing already with the first batch. :thumb:
Shipped raw Orion V3 orders as well as those who have picked up a TC-V3, Jetfire, etc. today. Have sent a couple of tracking numbers, but we're hosting a big kids party tonight, so won't get the rest out until late tonight or tomorrow. However, if you're an older weight or raw Orion, it's in the mail and you'll see it on Monday.
Spoke with the polishing house- I am picking them up Tuesday, so will look to ship those babies Wednesday/ Thursday next week.
Thanks to everyone for the prompt payments- extremely helpful.
Have a great weekend, y'all.
Would it be possible to do combined shipping for the weight and the insert?
Hello All,
I drove down to the polishing house Thursday and picked up 25 of the weights which I took over to the CNC folks for engraving. Polishing looks AMAZING- really nice... but of course, they are slightly behind and I left the rest with him to finish up. Therefore, I haven't shipped anything other than the older weights and Orion V3 Raw off yet. I'll plan on shipping all remaining orders - polished and engraved the week of the 23rd. I'm out on work travel this coming week so nothing will move, but the folks here are working through finishing engraving and polishing.
Logistics notes... I am in the midst of a move, thusly the compressed timeline. Our fam is heading out of Tucson, so after this month, working with these manufacturers who I really like will become more costly (ie: shipping). As of right now, 17 engraved weights have been ordered and I'm making 25. I think that will be it for the engraved - if you want one, get it now. All of my remaining unclaimed weights, I'm polishing, but unless someone really wants it, once these 25 engraved weights are gone, I don't think I'd try to ship a weight back to my shop here. I will work to find a shop in our new home, but no timeline to that. After the move, I'll have weights available until they are gone, but engraved will be limited to what I'm making now.
NEWS: I have sorted out details of the back insert and have the files from Duck to make a run of those! Currently, the back is indeed cut with a recess including the "X" and two dots. There are no screw holes for mounting, so most people have made something light - wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and mounted that with double-sided tape. Want to do the same?? I have quotes on a variety of materials, please register interest/ vote for materials here:
https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6 (https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6)
Thanks for the support this run. Sorry that it's a little hectic and fast, but I want to wrap up the first wave of orders before moving. Email or message me if you need anything!
EDIT: Here's a pic of what the insert will look like.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4VVGRC9.png)
Hello All,
I drove down to the polishing house Thursday and picked up 25 of the weights which I took over to the CNC folks for engraving. Polishing looks AMAZING- really nice... but of course, they are slightly behind and I left the rest with him to finish up. Therefore, I haven't shipped anything other than the older weights and Orion V3 Raw off yet. I'll plan on shipping all remaining orders - polished and engraved the week of the 23rd. I'm out on work travel this coming week so nothing will move, but the folks here are working through finishing engraving and polishing.
Logistics notes... I am in the midst of a move, thusly the compressed timeline. Our fam is heading out of Tucson, so after this month, working with these manufacturers who I really like will become more costly (ie: shipping). As of right now, 17 engraved weights have been ordered and I'm making 25. I think that will be it for the engraved - if you want one, get it now. All of my remaining unclaimed weights, I'm polishing, but unless someone really wants it, once these 25 engraved weights are gone, I don't think I'd try to ship a weight back to my shop here. I will work to find a shop in our new home, but no timeline to that. After the move, I'll have weights available until they are gone, but engraved will be limited to what I'm making now.
NEWS: I have sorted out details of the back insert and have the files from Duck to make a run of those! Currently, the back is indeed cut with a recess including the "X" and two dots. There are no screw holes for mounting, so most people have made something light - wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and mounted that with double-sided tape. Want to do the same?? I have quotes on a variety of materials, please register interest/ vote for materials here:
https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6 (https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6)
Thanks for the support this run. Sorry that it's a little hectic and fast, but I want to wrap up the first wave of orders before moving. Email or message me if you need anything!
EDIT: Here's a pic of what the insert will look like.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4VVGRC9.png)
What would the time frame for the inserts be? I'd like it to ship with my weight as well.
Oh, and is it just lighting on the weight, some of the letter on the Orion word doesn't looked filled in (black)?
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Thanks for the update ! If i were to combine the shipping of weight + back insert to the EU would that safe a lot compared to 2 seperate shipments ? Still thinking of going that route possibly but i have no idea how much of a difference that would actually make in the end :-\
Thanks for the update ! If i were to combine the shipping of weight + back insert to the EU would that safe a lot compared to 2 seperate shipments ? Still thinking of going that route possibly but i have no idea how much of a difference that would actually make in the end :-\
For Euro-land, it will be pretty significant, I think. It’s about free to include the insert with the weight for the additional mass. Sending the insert on its own will be ~$8-ish (best guess).
Hi All,I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but what is the expected time frame for the insert?
Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.
I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!
A quick note on that... forgive that I didn't take it out of the plastic yet, but the fit on the weights is perfect. Whew. :) :) :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IBzClJh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jsy3Db8.jpg)
I've just sent invoices for those who have ordered in the last week or two. If you think you should have an invoice at this point and don't, please PM me.
We are down to three engraved weights left and about 15 polished. I don't have any more raw weights- I polished all of the extras before leaving Tucson. I don't plan on running these again, so if you have been waiting, don't wait much longer! :)
INSERTS. Leggo.
https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7
Details are in the form... offering carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! :thumb: :thumb:
Think that's it for now. PM me with any questions.
Hi All,
Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.
I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!
Hi All,
A batch of weights went out yesterday. If you're in it, I just sent tracking info and they should be arriving tomorrow. I'm excited for you all to have these in hand. I'm trying my best to get these to you ahead of/ concurrent with the boards arriving stateside. I do apologize for being a bit behind again here - the move has been a bear. We don't have a place yet, so we are crashing with family for now. Since I've lost my workshop and my MIL would probably be fairly unsympathetic if I fill her kitchen table up with brass, I'm literally carrying around all of these bad boys in my car. I went over by a park the other day and packed up orders over lunch. It's pretty funny- I got some looks. Whatever, they're just jealous they don't have brass coming for their Duck boards. :)
I just finished up a few major work/ life things, so I'm going to do my darndest to have the rest of these out the door by next Friday. I think it's do-able, I have about 25 or so left to ship. If you haven't told me to hold on to your order to combine with inserts, please make sure to message me. I'm shipping all the weights unless you've asked me to hang on.
Insert order form will open up Tuesday and will probably only be open for a week or two. I want to get those on the way and I'll probably pay for them ahead of collecting from y'all again, but that's a bit TBD.
Have a good weekend!
Really nice work, def getting CF to match my jane v2 ce
Thanks for the amazing work steve!
Hi All,
A batch of weights went out yesterday. If you're in it, I just sent tracking info and they should be arriving tomorrow. I'm excited for you all to have these in hand. I'm trying my best to get these to you ahead of/ concurrent with the boards arriving stateside. I do apologize for being a bit behind again here - the move has been a bear. We don't have a place yet, so we are crashing with family for now. Since I've lost my workshop and my MIL would probably be fairly unsympathetic if I fill her kitchen table up with brass, I'm literally carrying around all of these bad boys in my car. I went over by a park the other day and packed up orders over lunch. It's pretty funny- I got some looks. Whatever, they're just jealous they don't have brass coming for their Duck boards. :)
I just finished up a few major work/ life things, so I'm going to do my darndest to have the rest of these out the door by next Friday. I think it's do-able, I have about 25 or so left to ship. If you haven't told me to hold on to your order to combine with inserts, please make sure to message me. I'm shipping all the weights unless you've asked me to hang on.
Insert order form will open up Tuesday and will probably only be open for a week or two. I want to get those on the way and I'll probably pay for them ahead of collecting from y'all again, but that's a bit TBD.
Have a good weekend!
Just sent you a pm regarding my shipping address.
Hi All,
Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.
I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!
Did pm you last 2 weeks, please check your message. Thank you.
This is great! Is the silver acrylic a mirror effect?
Hi All,I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but what is the expected time frame for the insert?
Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.
I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!
A quick note on that... forgive that I didn't take it out of the plastic yet, but the fit on the weights is perfect. Whew. :) :) :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IBzClJh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jsy3Db8.jpg)
I've just sent invoices for those who have ordered in the last week or two. If you think you should have an invoice at this point and don't, please PM me.
We are down to three engraved weights left and about 15 polished. I don't have any more raw weights- I polished all of the extras before leaving Tucson. I don't plan on running these again, so if you have been waiting, don't wait much longer! :)
INSERTS. Leggo.
https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7
Details are in the form... offering carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! :thumb: :thumb:
Think that's it for now. PM me with any questions.
Any idea if this insert is the same size as the Octagon v3 as well?
Any idea if this insert is the same size as the Octagon v3 as well?
Yes, this is a good question. I believe it is, but I'm double-checking with Duck. I think you should be able to order an insert now and get ahead for Octagon V3. I believe the weight is the same too, but again, am checking.
Either way, I'll most likely run weights and inserts for Octagon V3 after getting everything tied up here on Orion V3.
Can confirm - the INSERT is the same size on the new Octagon V3. The inserts running here WILL work in Octagon V3.
The weight is different between them - so we'll make a run of weights for Octagon V3 after wrapping up the Orion V3 shipping.
Hi All,So, did I get a engraved weight or did I miss it? Or have you not counted everything yet? You never got back to me on dc haha
Had a bit of work travel last week so nothing moved. However, we're back in action - 12 orders went out the door yesterday and tracking has been sent to those fine folks. I'm trying to catch up and have all the orders that aren't waiting for inserts out by mid next week. Next batch will also include the first of the international orders to get out. Sorry non-CONUS folks, it's a fair amount of work to get those out, so I've been knocking off the easier ones.
Inserts - no update. Should have an ETA from the manufacturer in the next week-ish. I haven't started invoicing for those yet, so you haven't missed anything. Need to send those babies out soon. :)
Have a good one!
Hi All,
Had a bit of work travel last week so nothing moved. However, we're back in action - 12 orders went out the door yesterday and tracking has been sent to those fine folks. I'm trying to catch up and have all the orders that aren't waiting for inserts out by mid next week. Next batch will also include the first of the international orders to get out. Sorry non-CONUS folks, it's a fair amount of work to get those out, so I've been knocking off the easier ones.
Inserts - no update. Should have an ETA from the manufacturer in the next week-ish. I haven't started invoicing for those yet, so you haven't missed anything. Need to send those babies out soon. :)
Have a good one!
Hi,
How about my order? is it include in the orders below? You did tell me will ship almost 1 month but not yet receive tracking number :(
Thank you.
hey steve, i sent an email 10 days ago but haven't got a response so trying my luck here. it seems there aren't any updates on the back inserts so at this point i would also prefer to have the weight shipped separately.
are there any plans to make a weight for duck viper/eagle v3?