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Title: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: MarcoC978 on Sun, 16 June 2019, 07:09:08
Hello, everyone.

Thinking about getting an Cougar Attack X3 RGB keeb, with MX Red switches.
But, I have some questions first.


Thats pretty much it.  :)
MAY THE SWITCHES BE WITH YOU!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: frydaja on Sun, 16 June 2019, 10:41:02
- They feel gritty, kind of like scraping sandpaper.
- The new ones are not. I think it's still safer to go to keyboards with Gaterons or Outemus if you're looking for a smooth switch, but I haven't met a new Cherry keyboard that was scratchy. I found Kailhs really, really scratchy.
- No Cherry switches are exactly cushioned (MY aside). Just Silent switches have a bit softer bottom out.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: MarcoC978 on Sun, 16 June 2019, 11:48:40
- They feel gritty, kind of like scraping sandpaper.
- The new ones are not. I think it's still safer to go to keyboards with Gaterons or Outemus if you're looking for a smooth switch, but I haven't met a new Cherry keyboard that was scratchy. I found Kailhs really, really scratchy.
- No Cherry switches are exactly cushioned (MY aside). Just Silent switches have a bit softer bottom out.

Hmmm... what about Gateron Red switches?
Found an Cooler Master CK530 keeb with Gat Reds. For a good price, too. (80€!)

I have some question about them tho... they are the same as in the original post.
Im reeeeeeeeeealy worried about the bottom out, I want it to be hard. (I know it sounds kinky dammit)
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 16 June 2019, 17:48:52
Hello, everyone.

Thinking about getting an Cougar Attack X3 RGB keeb, with MX Red switches.
But, I have some questions first.

  • Heard that Cherry MX Red switches are ”scratchy”. What does that mean, and does that affect the feel? I dont mind the sound.
  • Are they smooth?
  • Is the bottom out ”cushioned”? I dont want them to feel mushy, just a smooth travel with a hard bottom-out. (Yes that sounds kinky I know)

Thats pretty much it.  :)
MAY THE SWITCHES BE WITH YOU!

Thanks!

Full time cherry mx red user and with fast typing i can say they are great, but very loud. They have very smooth travel, however you can feel the stem going which feels quite scratchy. It affects the feel by making it a quite itchy feeling if you slow down.

The bottom out is not cushioned , it is a hard bottom out. By lubing the switches and putting o rings on it, it will put it very soft.
Lube the switches, it will be very smoother

This is the only switch i owned and all the other switches i've just... tried???
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 16 June 2019, 17:52:04
- They feel gritty, kind of like scraping sandpaper.
- The new ones are not. I think it's still safer to go to keyboards with Gaterons or Outemus if you're looking for a smooth switch, but I haven't met a new Cherry keyboard that was scratchy. I found Kailhs really, really scratchy.
- No Cherry switches are exactly cushioned (MY aside). Just Silent switches have a bit softer bottom out.

Hmmm... what about Gateron Red switches?
Found an Cooler Master CK530 keeb with Gat Reds. For a good price, too. (80€!)

I have some question about them tho... they are the same as in the original post.
Im reeeeeeeeeealy worried about the bottom out, I want it to be hard. (I know it sounds kinky dammit)

Gaterons and any other ripoff switch feels slightly worser in quality compared to cherry. However, not all ripoff switches are bad. Some are really smooth in bottoming out, however are much heavier like Zealios.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sup on Mon, 17 June 2019, 08:45:52
- They feel gritty, kind of like scraping sandpaper.
- The new ones are not. I think it's still safer to go to keyboards with Gaterons or Outemus if you're looking for a smooth switch, but I haven't met a new Cherry keyboard that was scratchy. I found Kailhs really, really scratchy.
- No Cherry switches are exactly cushioned (MY aside). Just Silent switches have a bit softer bottom out.

Hmmm... what about Gateron Red switches?
Found an Cooler Master CK530 keeb with Gat Reds. For a good price, too. (80€!)

I have some question about them tho... they are the same as in the original post.
Im reeeeeeeeeealy worried about the bottom out, I want it to be hard. (I know it sounds kinky dammit)

Gaterons and any other ripoff switch feels slightly worser in quality compared to cherry. However, not all ripoff switches are bad. Some are really smooth in bottoming out, however are much heavier like Zealios.

Not true
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 17 June 2019, 08:51:40
- They feel gritty, kind of like scraping sandpaper.
- The new ones are not. I think it's still safer to go to keyboards with Gaterons or Outemus if you're looking for a smooth switch, but I haven't met a new Cherry keyboard that was scratchy. I found Kailhs really, really scratchy.
- No Cherry switches are exactly cushioned (MY aside). Just Silent switches have a bit softer bottom out.



Hmmm... what about Gateron Red switches?
Found an Cooler Master CK530 keeb with Gat Reds. For a good price, too. (80€!)

I have some question about them tho... they are the same as in the original post.
Im reeeeeeeeeealy worried about the bottom out, I want it to be hard. (I know it sounds kinky dammit)

Gaterons and any other ripoff switch feels slightly worser in quality compared to cherry. However, not all ripoff switches are bad. Some are really smooth in bottoming out, however are much heavier like Zealios.

Not true

I'm telling you, cherries are the only ones available in my area. I could order some zealios, but i haven't had the chance to since i'm not good at soldering. ):
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sup on Tue, 18 June 2019, 04:27:23
Quote
Gaterons and any other ripoff switch feels slightly worser in quality compared to cherry. However, not all ripoff switches are bad. Some are really smooth in bottoming out, however are much heavier like Zealios.

No not true there are enough rip off switches that outshine cherries by miles then only Zealios. PS trough hole soldering is easy as it sounds :)
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 18 June 2019, 04:53:24
Quote
Gaterons and any other ripoff switch feels slightly worser in quality compared to cherry. However, not all ripoff switches are bad. Some are really smooth in bottoming out, however are much heavier like Zealios.

No not true there are enough rip off switches that outshine cherries by miles then only Zealios. PS trough hole soldering is easy as it sounds :)

Ok, thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: rinkaan on Tue, 18 June 2019, 07:49:17
I find gateron blacks to be the smoothest and with an affordable price point (which takes out pandas, zelios etc). If u are a hard typing, bottom out user (like me) then gateron blacks feels better than reds,... If u need a lighter actuation that black, go for gateron yellows.

If u are going for bottoming out without that much noise... Then then GmK keycaps with 1 or 2 o rings per keycap reduces some bottom out noises

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Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 19 June 2019, 08:23:26
Hello, everyone.

Thinking about getting an Cougar Attack X3 RGB keeb, with MX Red switches.
But, I have some questions first.

  • Heard that Cherry MX Red switches are ”scratchy”. What does that mean, and does that affect the feel? I dont mind the sound.
  • Are they smooth?
  • Is the bottom out ”cushioned”? I dont want them to feel mushy, just a smooth travel with a hard bottom-out. (Yes that sounds kinky I know)

Thats pretty much it.  :)
MAY THE SWITCHES BE WITH YOU!

Thanks!

In addition to my post,i could say they feel a bit scratchy, however they are very effortless making them smooth.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Greko on Wed, 19 June 2019, 08:28:20
Using now Gateron yellows lubbed and they fell really amazing. Quiet, smooth, perfect weight. I strongly recommend.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 19 June 2019, 08:32:54
Using now Gateron yellows lubbed and they fell really amazing. Quiet, smooth, perfect weight. I strongly recommend.

I'd love to try Gateron switches out someday.
Title: Re: Question about Cherry MX Red switches.
Post by: walie on Wed, 19 June 2019, 14:31:38
Using now Gateron yellows lubbed and they fell really amazing. Quiet, smooth, perfect weight. I strongly recommend.

Agreed, lubed gat yellows are a fantastic switch and excellent value