For a CPU in a mini-ITX system, I would have gone with AMD Ryzen 5 2400G.
- Four cores/eight threads (more power might be too much for a small, silent mini-ITX build),
- Best integrated GPU of everything out there
- You can't beat it on price
- AM4 socket motherboards, that will continue to be supported with upgrades for a couple of years ahead.
However, the successor generation AMD Zen2 is supposed to be released in two weeks. So, in a few weeks, the 2400G could drop in price, and the successor 3400G should be available. The latter has slightly better CPU performance/Watt ⇒ less heat dissipation ⇒ less to cool ⇒ fan can run slower ⇒ lower noise.
Therefore, do wait and look at other components in the meantime.
For case, I would try to find one that is relatively slim, with no space for graphics card, and which has air intake on the side. Then you should be able to get away with only the CPU fan for cooling the motherboard and its components.
You should get an adequate CPU cooler with your CPU, which should be small enough to fit in whatever case you get.
If you do get a CPU for a 120mm fan, the Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fan is currently the best out there.
For motherboard, I would look for:
- AM4 socket (mentioned before)
- Look at USB port selection on the back. You won't ever get more than one header for two chassis USB ports on a mini-ITX motherboard anyway.
- Look for heat sinks over components on the top/left on the motherboard. That is a general indication of good power delivery. No heat sinks = very low-end board.
- If you plan to get a fast NVMe SSD some time in the future, look for a M.2 port on the top of the motherboard. Most mini-ITX motherboards have the socket on the back where it would not get any airflow. Alternatively, search for info on booting from an adaptor board in the PCIe socket.
Non-dedicated GPU with Bluestacks? Holy sauerkraut and boiled potatoes that sounds like a chore to slog through.
For a CPU in a mini-ITX system, I would have gone with AMD Ryzen 5 2400G.
- Four cores/eight threads (more power might be too much for a small, silent mini-ITX build),
- Best integrated GPU of everything out there
- You can't beat it on price
- AM4 socket motherboards, that will continue to be supported with upgrades for a couple of years ahead.
However, the successor generation AMD Zen2 is supposed to be released in two weeks. So, in a few weeks, the 2400G could drop in price, and the successor 3400G should be available. The latter has slightly better CPU performance/Watt ⇒ less heat dissipation ⇒ less to cool ⇒ fan can run slower ⇒ lower noise.
Therefore, do wait and look at other components in the meantime.
For case, I would try to find one that is relatively slim, with no space for graphics card, and which has air intake on the side. Then you should be able to get away with only the CPU fan for cooling the motherboard and its components.
You should get an adequate CPU cooler with your CPU, which should be small enough to fit in whatever case you get.
If you do get a CPU for a 120mm fan, the Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fan is currently the best out there.
For motherboard, I would look for:
- AM4 socket (mentioned before)
- Look at USB port selection on the back. You won't ever get more than one header for two chassis USB ports on a mini-ITX motherboard anyway.
- Look for heat sinks over components on the top/left on the motherboard. That is a general indication of good power delivery. No heat sinks = very low-end board.
- If you plan to get a fast NVMe SSD some time in the future, look for a M.2 port on the top of the motherboard. Most mini-ITX motherboards have the socket on the back where it would not get any airflow. Alternatively, search for info on booting from an adaptor board in the PCIe socket.
Non-dedicated GPU with Bluestacks? Holy sauerkraut and boiled potatoes that sounds like a chore to slog through.
Passive cooled sounds good, but ambient sound lvl is never lower than ~30-35db, even if the whole pc is passive, on a whole, the db saved isn't much vs low rpm.I used to say the same thing to people until I shoved my entire computer into another room
This case dope too.
https://www.newegg.com/anthracite-gray-phanteks-evolv-shift-mini-itx-tower/p/N82E16811854067?Description=itx%20case&cm_re=itx_case-_-11-854-067-_-Product
I was actually gonna use it as a monitor stand.
Yes.
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Yes.
the glass is quite small, might be hard to see all ur kewl stuff.
But, i mean, if you're already decided on $200 worth of Kewl.
Will Absyrdwyf approve $1000 upfront, +$300 hidden ?
It might be possible to get that down to $800 , +$200 hidden
Any lower, the build will be significantly below the Peak for Price/Performance ratio.
I don't care about seeing stuff. And I want no LEDs.
And now I guess I don't need apu if I'm gonna use my 960.
I was actually gonna use it as a monitor stand.I wouldn't recommend it. I think the case is largely made of plastic. It needs cooling from both the top and bottom, with unobstructed vents.
I was actually gonna use it as a monitor stand.I wouldn't recommend it. I think the case is largely made of plastic. It needs cooling from both the top and bottom, with unobstructed vents.
the Mi-6 has the added disadvantage of severe gpu size limitations.You see it as a disadvantage. I see it as the whole point of getting that case: It's desk footprint is not enlarged only so that it would be able to fit longer graphics cards.
Oh damn, I completely forgot that pcie 4.0 is the new hotness. That Samsung ~5gb/s 2tb nvme tho
You wouldn't use amd for any emulator, because it's going to lock into single core performance some where, and amd would hold it back.TP not keeping up with AMDs strides in performance eh.
what's the budget ? and what cpu and gpu are you using now.
I'm not overclocking. My house is very cold year round.Low profile coolers can have half the surface area as a larger cooler, you won't overcome that with dropping room temp a few degrees.
You see it as a disadvantage. I see it as the whole point of getting that case: It's desk footprint is not enlarged only so that it would be able to fit longer graphics cards.I agree with you, but remember the point of this thread is silence.
As I needed the pc immediately, I got the SG13 case so I could use my Seasonic silent psu, an asus amd itx mobo, amd 2400g, and noctua mini cpu cooler. Thing is ****ing silent.
As I needed the pc immediately, I got the SG13 case so I could use my Seasonic silent psu, an asus amd itx mobo, amd 2400g, and noctua mini cpu cooler. Thing is ****ing silent.
/headscratch
how long will you be using this ?
Years. Not gaming except bluestacks mobile game. It is perfect.
Years. Not gaming except bluestacks mobile game. It is perfect.
After 2 weeks, it'll feel like your old car..
Soooon, the yearning for Ever-Greater-Power will be overwhelming.. It can only be abated by ritual Overclocking and finally, the Blood of Intel-i9
As I needed the pc immediately, I got the SG13 case so I could use my Seasonic silent psu, an asus amd itx mobo, amd 2400g, and noctua mini cpu cooler. Thing is ****ing silent.Nice choices, Noctua coolers are amazing.
Some folks can't stand to see other people happy. Especially if the happiness stems from 'inferior products'. But, the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills. So it goes.I doubt Tp has an I9, he spends all his money on monitors.
I doubt Tp has an I9, he spends all his money on monitors.
Grain of salt for folks that never post pictures of their equipment.Do you like heatsink fins and inky darkness, cause that's all you can see in a black Ncase with a Noctua C14s.
Don't knock the i7's man. I'm running a 8700k and it's great. :D
I doubt Tp has an I9, he spends all his money on monitors.
It's true, Tp4 = i7 pleb..Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HzSEITr.gif)
Grain of salt for folks that never post pictures of their equipment. Personally I like to compile things using as many penguin icons as possible. All the cats/s too.Do you like heatsink fins and inky darkness, cause that's all you can see in a black Ncase with a Noctua C14s.
Kinda boring to be honest.
What? No. I wasn't referring to absyrd and his equipment.It was supposed to be funny but I retyped that a few times and sleep got the better of me.
Don't knock the i7's man. I'm running a 8700k and it's great. :DI9-9900k is just the new high end I7 with an I9 designation to make people feel better for paying so much more for it (Intel has to make up those profit losses somehow).
Tp, 100% Right, 100% of the time
Intel Ftw..!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)
But there should be a flash method which doesn't require screen/post etc.. at least the asus/msi boards have that.
I updated via the bios NOT using the online feature but through a usb stick. It bricked.
And, no, I have no need to OC these days. Surprised you didn't yell at me for not getting a k cpu.
I almost bit on returning my 570 8gb for a 580 but the performance increase for the extra 30 watt power draw is stupid.
55 more watts for 590. But the MSI is on sale for $179.
I ended up with a 8700k in a Fractal Nano S case. I couldn't get the sg13 completely silent. The Nano S has all kinds of modular silencing panels and lets me try water cooling again (it has been 10 years at least) if I want to.Nice setup.
Waterpumps make a rattle sound no matter what. Air cooling is still the most quiet setup possible (relative) taking performance to noise ratio into account. However they have to be BIG.The Gen 6 pumps are better for rattle and motor noise but if you think about it there's really no way to compete because more fans plus a pump. More moving parts will equal more sound.
For small case, the P/N ratio will favor the water cooler, but again, it's favored, but NOT QUIET overall.
Good points. I haven't had the opportunity to really build in a decade.
Leaks aren't what I'm concerned with in an AIO; it is the pump dying without my knowledge and thermal shutdown. Also, if I get an EK rad or something similar, at least it is copper. I would get a pump/resevior combo, though.
Right now I have this Noctua 15s on this bad boy and temps are super low. I doubt I'd get 5.1ghz and make it through p95 without hitting 100C, but I was never one to follow those tests unless I was benchmarking to submit (I did do a bunch of LN2 and dry ice stuff back in the day).
Yeah. I've been all work and no play for a looooooooooong time. I switched to a K to play around. I'm enjoying myself. Apparently I got a golden chip because I'm stable at 5ghz at 1.3v. And, no, tp, I'm not delidding.
No, it's not 100% safe, the risks may be low but there is still some high risk.
8700k is flat topped (no resistors) but does have a large die that can be bumped.
More importantly, some of us who worked with bare die Athlons probably still get nightmares about chipped die cores.
Certain heatsink mount designs can cause chipped cores. but on the newer 2 piece mount types, this is unlikely.This doesn't inspire confidence, nor is it helping your 100% safe statement.
Liquid metal is protecting the die?
Stop stiffing the Ramen powder.QuoteCertain heatsink mount designs can cause chipped cores. but on the newer 2 piece mount types, this is unlikely.This doesn't inspire confidence, nor is it helping your 100% safe statement.
Last piece: wireless gaming mouse that is ergonomic (thumb rest jawn and possibly pink) that doesn't break the bank. Help?