geekhack

geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: filcomanfilthy on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:09:43

Title: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: filcomanfilthy on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:09:43: What are your opinions about switches that aren't cherry mx that are good for gaming? As many recommendations as you have would be good.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Sup on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:14:40: Hmm most old keyboards don't really work good for gaming. Maybe a Filco zero? Its pretty rare but the best Alps gaming board i ever had if you swap the switches. I swapped my Filco Zero to Alps yellow. It has 18N key roll over with USB TO PS2.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:16:15: dt35
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Tactile on Mon, 22 July 2019, 11:16:44: I had a Sejin keyboard (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Sejin_Electron_EAT-1010) with Futaba switches which I liked quite a lot.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: rxc92 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 11:32:04: Are there any keyboards that *aren't* good for gaming? Older keyboards should respond in virtually the same time, and even faster if they use PS/2. Just make sure it has at least 6KRO.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: chyros on Mon, 22 July 2019, 11:39:46: In my experience, a keyboard is good for gaming if it doesn't actively hinder it.

Even if you do require the >2KRO, this is a very large amount of boards.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 July 2019, 16:10:04: Alps are good because they activate high up.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: rxc92 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 17:29:31: Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 July 2019, 16:10:04
Alps are good because they activate high up.

Why not just get a rubber dome then, they actuate at the top of the stroke.
The whole gaming angle is bogus anyways, the difference in actuation time from the 'speed switches' might be two to four milliseconds; not a real difference to anyone. Even professionals just use regular Cherry switches.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: chyros on Tue, 23 July 2019, 00:19:53: Quote from: rxc92 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 17:29:31
Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 July 2019, 16:10:04
Alps are good because they activate high up.

Why not just get a rubber dome then, they actuate at the top of the stroke.
???they don't???
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 23 July 2019, 01:03:21: The classic Dell AT101W has only 2KRO but apparently some people find them good enough.
I've visited a hackerspace with half a dozen gaming PC's all equipped with these, several years before Chyros filmed this:
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 23 July 2019, 08:02:47: Quote from: rxc92 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 11:32:04
Are there any keyboards that *aren't* good for gaming? Older keyboards should respond in virtually the same time, and even faster if they use PS/2. Just make sure it has at least 6KRO.

cherry mx black is a big no if you're playing competitive games like overwatch. But for RTS and RpG games? That'll do.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Venaros on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:24:10: Quote from: rxc92 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 17:29:31
Why not just get a rubber dome then, they actuate at the top of the stroke.
The whole gaming angle is bogus anyways, the difference in actuation time from the 'speed switches' might be two to four milliseconds; not a real difference to anyone. Even professionals just use regular Cherry switches.
Membranes require you to bottom out to actuate...

Quote from: Sintpinty on Tue, 23 July 2019, 08:02:47
cherry mx black is a big no if you're playing competitive games like overwatch. But for RTS and RpG games? That'll do.

What makes cherry mx black a big no? Also, RTS games can also be very competitive, just look at Starcraft.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:21:07: Unpopular opinion. I use/used my Unicomp for gaming.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: rxc92 on Tue, 23 July 2019, 14:47:16: Quote from: Touch_It on Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:21:07
Unpopular opinion. I use/used my Unicomp for gaming.

Unpopular opinion. Today is the 23rd.
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 23 July 2019, 14:59:27: Quote from: rxc92 on Tue, 23 July 2019, 14:47:16
Quote from: Touch_It on Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:21:07
Unpopular opinion. I use/used my Unicomp for gaming.

Unpopular opinion. Today is the 23rd.

maybe but have you ever tried NZST?
Title: Re: Older Keyboards That are good for gaming.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 23 July 2019, 15:47:26: Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:16:15
dt35

(http://i.imgur.com/Ty4hy.jpg)