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many many topics argue about best mechanical ever
but obviously you already have not-good experience in this game. Which is the worst Mechanical Keyboard you have ever tried? what switch did it use? Thank you ;D :D ;D
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Those awful Logitech optics switches.
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All the boards with MX Blacks I've ever touched,they're a truly terrible switch.
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A Cherry board with MY switches.
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Novatouch.
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Novatouch.
Bought a Novatouch a while ago to try EC switches. I was very disappointed with the feel and even more with the wobble. I was excited to try an SA set on it and I was shocked how mushy and wobbly it was.
I sold it a while ago for way less money than what they go for now. Anyway I'll give Topre another try now with a Realforce I just bought ;D
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Bought a Novatouch a while ago to try EC switches. I was very disappointed with the feel and even more with the wobble. I was excited to try an SA set on it and I was shocked how mushy and wobbly it was.
I sold it a while ago for way less money than what they go for now. Anyway I'll give Topre another try now with a Realforce I just bought ;D
Yeah, I was really stoked for my first Novatouch but was grossly let down once I put GMKs on it. I ended up trading it for a FC660C that I also ended up parting with (I should probably update my GH sig).
I've since bought another Novatouch because I got it at a great price but I don't plan on using it. At least, not at stock.. it's going to need at least silencing rings and maybe a dome swap..
I'm considering selling it to get a FC980C, though.
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IBM Model M. I'd rather type on a cheap membrane keyboard than one of those godawful things.
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many many topics argue about best mechanical ever
but obviously you already have not-good experience in this game. Which is the worst Mechanical Keyboard you have ever tried? what switch did it use? Thank you ;D :D ;D
Cherry MX Black. Ewww
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IBM Model M. I'd rather type on a cheap membrane keyboard than one of those godawful things.
The hecc?
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Romer G Tactiles.. Awful. Sad. Deprsssing. Thats all i can say.
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These are pretty dreadful. Tall, linear, stiff, long-throw.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Stackpole_switch_grid (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Stackpole_switch_grid)
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Bought a Novatouch a while ago to try EC switches. I was very disappointed with the feel and even more with the wobble. I was excited to try an SA set on it and I was shocked how mushy and wobbly it was.
I sold it a while ago for way less money than what they go for now. Anyway I'll give Topre another try now with a Realforce I just bought ;D
Yeah, I was really stoked for my first Novatouch but was grossly let down once I put GMKs on it. I ended up trading it for a FC660C that I also ended up parting with (I should probably update my GH sig).
I've since bought another Novatouch because I got it at a great price but I don't plan on using it. At least, not at stock.. it's going to need at least silencing rings and maybe a dome swap..
I'm considering selling it to get a FC980C, though.
As I know the Novatouch is not the REAL TOPRE? Isn't it ?
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In terms of actual usability, I found MX Blacks were hardest to type on, just a huge learning curve to get used to reliable key actuation.
But in terms of aesthetics and being unpleasant to use, pretty much any MX/clone clicky switch. There's something about the high pitched noise that they make that is very, very grating. Every keypress reminds me that I am using a switch with what I regard as a fundamental design flaw or compromise built into it.
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A wooden tray mount board with gateron greens, dunno if it has a name :))
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K70 w mx red or sumn. Also the first one i tried and i already realized how awful it is.
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Smith corona leaf springs. Words cannot describe how **** they are.
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As I know the Novatouch is not the REAL TOPRE? Isn't it ?
It technically is, and it was a collaboration with PFU and CoolerMaster to try introducing it outside of Japan.
I'm not sure exactly how the partnership worked because the Topre name is not used at all on CM's site or anywhere on the keyboard/box.
The parts are also interchangeable with Topre keyboards like the sliders and the domes.
It just feels like crap because of the construction of the board and the sliders are too short.
I've used a Norbatouch and it feels a lot better with the metal case, but I just don't enjoy using a Novatouch in general.
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Smith corona leaf springs. Words cannot describe how **** they are.
I feel so bad for the people who have to use this.
Maybe Satan uses it daily for his office work.
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Alps keyboards.
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Smith corona leaf springs. Words cannot describe how **** they are.
I feel so bad for the people who have to use this.
Maybe Satan uses it daily for his office work.
It's SO ****ING AWFUL, what were they thinking?!
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As I know the Novatouch is not the REAL TOPRE? Isn't it ?
I'm not sure exactly how the partnership worked because the Topre name is not used at all on CM's site or anywhere on the keyboard/box.
Agreed, but the Topre logo IS stamped on the PCB though. So you'd have to really dig into the keyboard to find out Topre's involvement.
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IBM Model M. I'd rather type on a cheap membrane keyboard than one of those godawful things.
The hecc?
I suppose my response belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread more than anywhere else, but he asked so I answered.
I loathe all of IBM's post-beamspring keyboards, with the Model M being the worst I've had the displeasure to type on (there may be even worse ones that IBM released, but I've been lucky enough to have never typed on them).
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Agreed, but the Topre logo IS stamped on the PCB though. So you'd have to really dig into the keyboard to find out Topre's involvement.
Ah, neat, I didn't know that. I have yet to open my Novatouch.
TIL
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I loathe all of IBM's post-beamspring keyboards, with the Model M being the worst I've had the displeasure to type on (there may be even worse ones that IBM released, but I've been lucky enough to have never typed on them).
Have you tried and M2? They're probably my favorite bucking spring. You'll probably hate it even more though
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IBM model M. Unrefined, heavy, scratchy, and just plain overrated. The board is built fine otherwise. It's aight for a 30 years old keyboard.
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Easy. Brown Hi-tek 725s. Scratchy, sticky, and irredeemable the second any debris touches them. Horrid to the bone.
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IBM model M. Unrefined, heavy, scratchy, and just plain overrated. The board is built fine otherwise. It's aight for a 30 years old keyboard.
Are you sure about scratchiness? Of all the complaint I have with Membrane BuS smoothness is definitely not one of them, and the Ms I've tried so far are all consistent in this aspect as well, heck the biggest virtue of Membrane BuS over Capacitive ones I've found are their off center smoothness and smoothness consistency.
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many many topics argue about best mechanical ever
but obviously you already have not-good experience in this game. Which is the worst Mechanical Keyboard you have ever tried? what switch did it use? Thank you ;D :D ;D
I'll definitely not be alone in saying this: Cherry MY (White slider type in an MY8000).
"MY" can only be an acronym for "Mistype Yuckiness".
Even with switches that aren't my taste, I can still type fairly agreeably and accurately on them. But MY genuinely irritates and affects my typing efficiency. It's not even the stiffness, but something in the overall force curve and actuation point that leads to frequent missed presses.
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All the boards with MX Blacks I've ever touched,they're a truly terrible switch.
Modern MX blacks are digusting. Thats why people prefer vintage, which can be quite hard to find nowadays.
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Smith corona leaf springs. Words cannot describe how **** they are.
I feel so bad for the people who have to use this.
Maybe Satan uses it daily for his office work.
It's SO ****ING AWFUL, what were they thinking?!
Must have hired a demon for marketing that thing.
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some very cheap 18USD keyboard with non-retooled reds. I guess you get what you paid for. I was amazed that reds could feel more scratchy suddenly than browns or some stock clears.
on the other hand I picked up one of the first wyse keyboards from 1983(!!!) for about the same price with vintage blacks and they were actually buttery smooth (only thing smoother I tried were actually lubed or contactless switches).
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For me, anything with MX reds is generally terrible. To me, they just feel like a smoother membrane keyboard...
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The KBPV60 with Matias Quiet Clicks. Jesus, those switches sound terrible, the board had chattering issues, they keycaps were made out of wet newspaper, the stabilizers sounded like chipmunks shivering, and the case was so light i could blow it around my desk.
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The KBPV60 with Matias Quiet Clicks. Jesus, those switches sound terrible, the board had chattering issues, they keycaps were made out of wet newspaper, the stabilizers sounded like chipmunks shivering, and the case was so light i could blow it around my desk.
I have to agree with you there. I bought one after reading that it was "inspired" (or some other marketing crap) by the old Apple Extended Keyboard II. I have a pair of AEK IIs, and even after all these years, they're a million times better to type on than a Matias Quiet Click keyboard.
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Model M(Buckling Springs).
And no I am not kidding. I tried full size and SSK trying to find out what the community was on about and just not a good experience on them tbh. Actually made me type even slower. Topre hype did not disappoint though(Realforce/Leopold).
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For me, anything with MX reds is generally terrible. To me, they just feel like a smoother membrane keyboard...
At least they're not membrane. Enjoying Cherry mx Reds can be quite difficult but is easy for linear lovers.
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
Really not a fan of Topre, are we? It does have a niche market.
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
Really not a fan of Topre, are we? It does have a niche market.
Glorified rubber domes my friend.
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
Thanks! I've been considering the FC980C for some time, and after seeing you put it just after the HHKB and RF, but above the Novatouch (so worst, in your opinion), you've convinced me to take the plunge and just order the FC980C.
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
Thanks! I've been considering the FC980C for some time, and after seeing you put it just after the HHKB and RF, but above the Novatouch (so worst, in your opinion), you've convinced me to take the plunge and just order the FC980C.
I rather liked the FC980C but the metal plate and the rattly sound of the switches and stabs just really put me off of it. Lubing and silencing didn't really provide much of a benefit compiled with the barely tactile light rubber domes.
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1. G84-4100 with ML switches
2. Anything with MY Switches
3. Model M
4. HHKB
5. Realforce
6. Leopold FC980C
7. Novatouch
Thanks! I've been considering the FC980C for some time, and after seeing you put it just after the HHKB and RF, but above the Novatouch (so worst, in your opinion), you've convinced me to take the plunge and just order the FC980C.
FC980C is dank. Would always recommend. My favorite work board by a mile. If you need the num pad, and like topre, it's a no brainer.
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Atreus.
Really wanted to like it, but would never buy one after trying it. Layout looks very good, but I did not find it comfortable at all.
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I meditated for ten days and ten nights and still couldn’t understand why anyone would dislike fc980c.
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I rather liked the FC980C but the metal plate and the rattly sound of the switches and stabs just really put me off of it. Lubing and silencing didn't really provide much of a benefit compiled with the barely tactile light rubber domes.
I'm okay with the metal plate but it does make the Leopolds more harsh compared to the HHKB and RF.
I'm getting the silenced version (purple sliders) which also come with 30g domes.. which I will promptly replace with BKE lights for some tactility anyway. Should be good.
I'm guessing you just don't like Topre in general, lol.
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I rather liked the FC980C but the metal plate and the rattly sound of the switches and stabs just really put me off of it. Lubing and silencing didn't really provide much of a benefit compiled with the barely tactile light rubber domes.
I'm okay with the metal plate but it does make the Leopolds more harsh compared to the HHKB and RF.
I'm getting the silenced version (purple sliders) which also come with 30g domes.. which I will promptly replace with BKE lights for some tactility anyway. Should be good.
I'm guessing you just don't like Topre in general, lol.
Affirmative on that one, skip.