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Title: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:20:56: Does this go like keeb, where one ends up with 30+ cubes ?

Or is it gentle like art pencils, where you really only need 1 set.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Aerizu on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:40:55: That depends on how serious you want to get into speed-cubing.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:47:09: Quote from: Aerizu on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:40:55
That depends on how serious you want to get into speed-cubing.

what's the 140wpm equivalent for 3x3 ?
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 14 August 2019, 00:54:45: (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/surrealmemes/images/2/2b/C_U_B_B.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170512232623)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 01:23:46: Well, speed-cubing is an interesting thing.

If you'd like to try it out, you're probably good with a <$10 cube as long as it's not "Rubik's" (They're ****).

If you'll get good at it then there's enough cubes to choose from - just like mechanical switches, each has different "feel" to it. There's even the lubing aspect that we share with our hobby. What's plastic without lube huh?

On the plus side - even the most expensive "top-end" cubes cost like $60-70 so compare to keyboards it's a "cheap" hobby to get into.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 14 August 2019, 05:32:58: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:47:09
Quote from: Aerizu on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:40:55
That depends on how serious you want to get into speed-cubing.

what's the 140wpm equivalent for 3x3 ?

Maybe somewhere around 8-10 turns per second, or around 8 seconds per solve? (Assuming 200wpm is a 5 second solve or less).
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 09:22:45: Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 01:23:46
On the plus side - even the most expensive "top-end" cubes cost like $60-70 so compare to keyboards it's a "cheap" hobby to get into.

Which cube is $60.

Are there any KMACs $300+
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 10:02:00: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 09:22:45
Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 01:23:46
On the plus side - even the most expensive "top-end" cubes cost like $60-70 so compare to keyboards it's a "cheap" hobby to get into.

Which cube is $60.

Are there any KMACs $300+

Gan 356 X (https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/sales/products/gan356-x) for example.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 11:14:44: Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 10:02:00
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 09:22:45
Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 01:23:46
On the plus side - even the most expensive "top-end" cubes cost like $60-70 so compare to keyboards it's a "cheap" hobby to get into.

Which cube is $60.

Are there any KMACs $300+

Gan 356 X (https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/sales/products/gan356-x) for example.

Bah.. ok.. ordered..

As long as there are no Kmacs, wallet should be safe..

(https://i.imgur.com/w8LOcaM.gif)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 14:12:19: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 11:14:44
Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 10:02:00
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2019, 09:22:45
Quote from: funderburker on Wed, 14 August 2019, 01:23:46
On the plus side - even the most expensive "top-end" cubes cost like $60-70 so compare to keyboards it's a "cheap" hobby to get into.

Which cube is $60.

Are there any KMACs $300+

Gan 356 X (https://www.thecubicle.com/collections/sales/products/gan356-x) for example.

Bah.. ok.. ordered..

As long as there are no Kmacs, wallet should be safe..

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w8LOcaM.gif)

Good luck dude!
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 August 2019, 22:23:24: You can get those cubes with the inside corners rounded off these days, for speed cubing.

Didn't have them back in the day.

I had a small collection, but only 'cause they kept wearing out. Plus a 2x2x2 and a 4x4x4 and a cylinder one, and a couple of other weird shapes.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:08:20: tp, best time?
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:33:25: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:08:20
tp, best time?

1m 20s using beginner method.

In the process of memorizing algorithms.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Aerizu on Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:25:41: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:33:25
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:08:20
tp, best time?

1m 20s using beginner method.

In the process of memorizing algorithms.

Video proof or it didn't happen :p
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:35:55: Quote from: Aerizu on Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:25:41

Video proof or it didn't happen :p

It sounds fast to anyone uninitiated.

But for reference .. 8 seconds is top tier. 5 seconds top tier + RNG , 3.47 seconds is Super-RNG world record

1m 20s is only slightly faster than the youngest person to solve during competition, a 3yr old in 1min 39 seconds.

Tp4 = Absolute Trash lvl.. @ 1min 20s

Tp4 got that PB time in ~6 hours total learning/playtime.. A kid might not be able to do it. But people forget Tp4 = adult

Current Tp4 average ~2:30 (RNG included)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Aerizu on Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:51:52: Just keep solving cubes and you can easily push it down under a minute. You'll be able recognize more patterns and make turns efficiently as you gain more experience.

Which solving method are you learning btw?
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:42:21: Quote from: Aerizu on Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:51:52

Which solving method are you learning btw?

Right now I just know the beginner layer by layer method for a complete solve..

I've started on cfop. practicing F2L atm.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 August 2019, 12:29:45: It's been so long since I've been in practice that I've mostly forgotten the order of the top layer algorithms.

Once TP gets better, he should get one of these.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190821/80c5abf172a1582aeb94559459686bac.jpg)

Solve by size, not by color.

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 25 August 2019, 22:26:48: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 August 2019, 12:29:45
It's been so long since I've been in practice that I've mostly forgotten the order of the top layer algorithms.

Once TP gets better, he should get one of these.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190821/80c5abf172a1582aeb94559459686bac.jpg)

Solve by size, not by color.

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Does that even work?

Could you show a pic of it scrambled please :)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 26 August 2019, 14:18:59: Scrambled

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/8fd3901b2b074c9288daf6dc114ff29b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 26 August 2019, 16:33:33: Layer 2 solved

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/03763d1f94e53b98b96f47ba940e55ed.jpg)

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Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:15:45: And back to fully solved.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/14c829d5ae86e86cc46317fddf24cae8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:23:45: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:15:45
And back to fully solved.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/14c829d5ae86e86cc46317fddf24cae8.jpg)

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How's the Korner Kutting on dis'cube ?

(https://i.imgur.com/uqAeXBu.gif)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:44:26: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:23:45
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:15:45
And back to fully solved.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/14c829d5ae86e86cc46317fddf24cae8.jpg)

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

How's the Korner Kutting on dis'cube ?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uqAeXBu.gif)

It's terrible, it's clunky to move due to the different size of the pieces, and sometimes if you make a move too fast you'll pop a piece and have to simply rebuild the cube. Definitely not for speed runs.

I bought it for the challenge when I got bored of the regular 3x3 and didn't feel like learning the 4x4.

I also have a 2x2, but if you can solve a 3x3 you can solve a 2x2, same basic algorithms.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:42:18: $60 for a cube?! I had to have a look, then wondered if they're popular here. They aren't but I found a bluetooth one (https://www.kewbz.co.uk/collections/3x3x3-cubes/products/gan-356i-smart-cube) that's $100+ with no explanation - I guess if you're crazy enough to be looking to spend that much on a cube you know why bluetooth is useful :))
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:50:52: Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:42:18
$60 for a cube?! I had to have a look, then wondered if they're popular here. They aren't but I found a bluetooth one (https://www.kewbz.co.uk/collections/3x3x3-cubes/products/gan-356i-smart-cube) that's $100+ with no explanation - I guess if you're crazy enough to be looking to spend that much on a cube you know why bluetooth is useful :))

That's the new Smart cube by the same maker as the $60 GanX, it's not going to cost that much though,

I believe they said it's gonna be $70-80 USD from US web stores.

IMHO, I don't see the appeal, because the cube doesn't turn itself, and so it's not going to accelerate training in any way.

And Racing your friends online is kind of pointless, you know how fast you are, and your friend knows how fast he is. it's a fixed thing, the real goal is feliks zemdegs..

I think an auto scrambler would be far more useful.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:01:26: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:50:52
Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:42:18
$60 for a cube?! I had to have a look, then wondered if they're popular here. They aren't but I found a bluetooth one (https://www.kewbz.co.uk/collections/3x3x3-cubes/products/gan-356i-smart-cube) that's $100+ with no explanation - I guess if you're crazy enough to be looking to spend that much on a cube you know why bluetooth is useful :))

That's the new Smart cube by the same maker as the $60 GanX, it's not going to cost that much though,

I believe they said it's gonna be $70-80 USD from US web stores.

IMHO, I don't see the appeal, because the cube doesn't turn itself, and so it's not going to accelerate training in any way.

And Racing your friends online is kind of pointless, you know how fast you are, and your friend knows how fast he is. it's a fixed thing, the real goal is feliks zemdegs..

I think an auto scrambler would be far more useful.
Point proved - you're a newbie who's willing to spend serious $ on a cube and you know what the bluetooth does :p
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 28 August 2019, 18:57:56: my ex roommate was a cube fanatic... he went from the 3x3 to the 4x4 to the 5x5 to the 7x7 to the 11x11 to the 13x13, and was able to solve them all.

once you get past the 7x7 the algorithms are all the same for the rest of the cubes, it just takes longer
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 01 September 2019, 22:17:42: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 26 August 2019, 14:18:59
Scrambled

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/8fd3901b2b074c9288daf6dc114ff29b.jpg)

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Looks ... interesting.

Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 05 September 2019, 19:39:42: Just spent 40 minutes solving, only to find out that the last time I dropped the cube, 1 of the corners was twisted out of axis making it unsolvable.

(https://i.imgur.com/SIzjGPt.gif)
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 06 September 2019, 09:58:07: :))

Did you not think something was off after a couple of minutes?
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:13:37: Quote from: suicidal_orange on Fri, 06 September 2019, 09:58:07
:))

Did you not think something was off after a couple of minutes?

Under normal circumstances I would've

But I am learning f2l algorithms, it's a slower, less visually obvious process, since my current look-ahead-capability is only rudimentary.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:18:03: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 05 September 2019, 19:39:42
Just spent 40 minutes solving, only to find out that the last time I dropped the cube, 1 of the corners was twisted out of axis making it unsolvable.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SIzjGPt.gif)

first rule of cubes: if you pop a piece and don't know exactly where to put it back, disassemble entire cube and reassemble solved
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:22:08: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:18:03
first rule of cubes: if you pop a piece and don't know exactly where to put it back, disassemble entire cube and reassemble solved

I wonder if rebuilding a cube could be a new category in competition, kind of like assembling a rifle, except more peaceful, less skool-sh00tn' and more bookish.
Title: Re: Bought a 3x3 cube.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 17 September 2019, 17:50:14: Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:22:08
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 06 September 2019, 12:18:03
first rule of cubes: if you pop a piece and don't know exactly where to put it back, disassemble entire cube and reassemble solved

I wonder if rebuilding a cube could be a new category in competition, kind of like assembling a rifle, except more peaceful, less skool-sh00tn' and more bookish.

hmm... intriguing thought...

the concept would work in the same way one naturally solves a cube, and would increase based on the size of the cube

however, it would only work on cubes with odd numbered dimensions. you can't disassemble a 2x2 or a 4x4 without destroying the cube.