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Title: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard60 - GB is live!
Post by: VictorMTB on Thu, 15 August 2019, 21:57:09
HB60 - HONEYBOARD60 BY MTBKEYS

We are proud to announce our very first 60% case design! It features a pretty simplistic, elegant glossy design with a honeycomb design in the inside which gives it a unique sound profile.
You will be able to choose from two tops. Standard or HHKB 7U for the same price.

Manufacturing will be done in-house in our shop here in Richmond, BC. Canada.

(https://imgur.com/LiFDwTc.jpg)

SPECIFICATIONS


Case Angle: 4 Degrees.
Material : 6061 Aluminum Base, Plate, and High profile Standard or HHKB Top.
Plate Layout: ANSI/ISO Univeral
Price: $290.00 + Shipping for Basic colors - $310.00 + Shipping for premium colors.
Shipping: $25.00 US and Canada, $55.00 International.
Timeline: We have already had a successful GB run on reddit. We hope to run a Geekhack GB as soon as we reach 2 month account age (Oct 13) or we hear back from GH mods about vendor approval.
Basic Base + lid colors (Anodized):
Premium Base + Lid colors (Anodized):
Plate Colors (Anodized):




PICTURES


(https://imgur.com/rpkQiet.jpg)(https://imgur.com/TQey19l.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/5Dikc05.jpg)(https://imgur.com/h9B1ood.jpg)


RENDERS


(https://imgur.com/IHIo5SS.jpg)(https://imgur.com/8ZGXFdF.jpg)(https://imgur.com/2swnYEK.jpg)(https://imgur.com/pk6gwxA.jpg)
Renders By Macsurfy!



Sound Test & Build Stream

Thanks to Top Clack for their build stream and sound tests of the HB60 which you can watch here:


Also shoutout to Tennstrong for clipping the sound tests and putting them in a neat list for us!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z3iSSUCJnulUpBDmoPh0aLuhQ0Di3pYHa8BWCeZLGZ8/edit#gid=1742896824

PLATE DXF & DIMENSIONS

DXF file for the Honeyboard60 blank plate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M70YirzLkwg3G3OPbGXvljIZYdzvEDUK/view?usp=sharing
PDF File of Drawing with plate dimensions: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KlcCiEtDqch-0oMlmy_F03tDGzcXnObg/view?usp=sharing



Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case with optional brass plate.
Post by: VictorMTB on Thu, 15 August 2019, 21:58:05
https://imgur.com/a/ll2uNoJ
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: TokyoExpress on Thu, 15 August 2019, 22:07:19
I'd suggest a deep crimson if you're going with anodized aluminum - it'll look totally sick! Love the renders
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: LostInInaka on Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:05:50
Love that silver blue....wanted a canoe with that color way (or silver pink)

If colors can come out like the renders, this will indeed be an awesome board.

Any idea of price range and/or pcb compatibility?
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: Pluto19 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:25:30
Interesting board you've designed.
How much extra time did it take for milling the honeycombs in the base? Would you also be adding o-rings to the bottom case in regards to the extra spacing you've milled out on the screw holes? Also, is there any significance to the asymmetrical registration marks for the plate and bottom case?
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:10:49
Looks good! Interested to see the price.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: VictorMTB on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:39:36
Updated with more pictures of finished prototype!
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: ecbob on Sat, 17 August 2019, 03:02:24
Wait BC? If this is cheaper than the Polaris I'm definitely buying this over Polaris. Color suggestion is white case and red secondary!
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: rondg on Sat, 17 August 2019, 05:40:26
That's a lot of screws for that form factor...
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: YellowHalo on Sat, 17 August 2019, 06:58:34
Quote from: rondg on Sat, 17 August 2019, 05:40:26
That's a lot of screws for that form factor...

I agree. Four or six should be enough, top and bottom. You can also just lose the side screws and do with just eight like the kyuu. Since it will be sandwiched, maybe one of halves can have alignment tabs to secure the plate in place, like the aegis, jane v2, and kyuu.
.
Edit: I saw that you do have some sort of alignment tabs. If you have them where some of the screw holes are, again like the three examples, it would look much cleaner.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: VictorMTB on Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:12:13
Quote from: YellowHalo on Sat, 17 August 2019, 06:58:34
Quote from: rondg on Sat, 17 August 2019, 05:40:26
That's a lot of screws for that form factor...

I agree. Four or six should be enough, top and bottom. You can also just lose the side screws and do with just eight like the kyuu. Since it will be sandwiched, maybe one of halves can have alignment tabs to secure the plate in place, like the aegis, jane v2, and kyuu.
.
Edit: I saw that you do have some sort of alignment tabs. If you have them where some of the screw holes are, again like the three examples, it would look much cleaner.


You're right we can definitely look into lowering the number of screw holes.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: VictorMTB on Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:14:59
Quote from: Nightcrawler on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:10:49
Looks good! Interested to see the price.

Thank you! We're working on calculating material and machining + tooling costs today - we're hoping to keep this under $400 USD.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: beekey on Sat, 17 August 2019, 14:01:23
Quote from: VictorMTB on Sat, 17 August 2019, 10:12:13
Quote from: YellowHalo on Sat, 17 August 2019, 06:58:34
Quote from: rondg on Sat, 17 August 2019, 05:40:26
That's a lot of screws for that form factor...

I agree. Four or six should be enough, top and bottom. You can also just lose the side screws and do with just eight like the kyuu. Since it will be sandwiched, maybe one of halves can have alignment tabs to secure the plate in place, like the aegis, jane v2, and kyuu.
.
Edit: I saw that you do have some sort of alignment tabs. If you have them where some of the screw holes are, again like the three examples, it would look much cleaner.


You're right we can definitely look into lowering the number of screw holes.
Better some more screws than having a gap somewhere, due to uneven pressure.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 17 August 2019, 19:02:39
I'm not a fan of the board but boy, your enthusiasm about it makes me want to support you!

I hope this project of yours goes well man.
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: quinnx on Sat, 17 August 2019, 20:20:53
I am all hand support! love a mirror finish with nature color of aluminum. more than that I'm happy that I can finally have a board made in Canada
Title: Re: [IC] Honeyboard 60% Aluminum case Prototype
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 16:44:15
Quote from: quinnx on Sat, 17 August 2019, 20:20:53
I am all hand support! love a mirror finish with nature color of aluminum. more than that I'm happy that I can finally have a board made in Canada

We appreciate the support! If you're near Richmond feel free to come check out our shop and the prototype :]
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: JohnsonMG on Mon, 19 August 2019, 18:35:39
Looks good! I'm personally not a fan of low profile cases, so I'd be very interested in a high profile version.

Keep it up! I will be monitoring this closely. Great to see manufacturing being done in Canada!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 18:41:58
Thank you! we have gotten rid of the gap on both sides by popular demand LOL!  I will look into high profile cases, although I'm mostly looking into making a compatible hhkb plate and top for this case. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 19:29:07
I really like this design!

Might I suggest a 3mm acrylic/polycarbonate plate option? This would let light out from underglow which would also be reflected quite nicely off of the buffed interior honeycomb! I am assuming the seem in the side of your case is the plate...
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 20:23:13
Quote from: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 19:29:07
I really like this design!

Might I suggest a 3mm acrylic/polycarbonate plate option? This would let light out from underglow which would also be reflected quite nicely off of the buffed interior honeycomb! I am assuming the seem in the side of your case is the plate...

Great suggestion! our shop landlord is in the acrylic business I will ask him for a piece tomorrow. it would have to be clear/transparent i assume?
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:50:25
Clear or frosted/milky acrylic would work. Some people prefer frosted because it diffuses the light better.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:15:44
Quote from: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:50:25
Clear or frosted/milky acrylic would work. Some people prefer frosted because it diffuses the light better.

Im hoping he has frosted but for sure he has clear.. I will update tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: hammerbrotha on Tue, 20 August 2019, 06:54:51
Quote from: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 18:41:58
Thank you! we have gotten rid of the gap on both sides by popular demand LOL!  I will look into high profile cases, although I'm mostly looking into making a compatible hhkb plate and top for this case. :thumb:

Great to see a Canadian board maker!!! My only feedback was related to getting rid of the gap but sounds like you've already addressed this.

60% is not a form factor I use, but I love that this is made in BC, full support just for that!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Tue, 20 August 2019, 13:28:09
Quote from: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:15:44
Quote from: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:50:25
Clear or frosted/milky acrylic would work. Some people prefer frosted because it diffuses the light better.

Im hoping he has frosted but for sure he has clear.. I will update tomorrow.

Great! So I have a couple warnings for you...

It looks like you intend to run the Group Buy directly from PayPal. If you send out 25 invoices in one day and suddenly your account goes up to $10,000+ in a couple of days PayPal will freeze the funds until you ship the product! Basically if this is not normal for your PayPal account to have this much money coming in it sets off their auto-fraud detection. This has happened to countless group buy runners on GeekHack.

So be sure you can afford the raw materials because the money might get tied up. If the money is tied up and you have no materials to make your product with to ship it, everyone gets shafted. The GB runner is stuck with money they can't access because they can't ship anything, the buyers angrily want their product shipped, and getting PayPal to release the funds can take months...

The second warning is that it looks like your IC form is actually the Group buy form, meaning if I put my PayPal in the interest check then I will be invoiced. This is not an interest check. Usually payment is separate from collecting the list of potential buyers. This might scare off people who otherwise would complete your interest check.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Tue, 20 August 2019, 13:52:00
Quote from: rpiguy9907 on Tue, 20 August 2019, 13:28:09
Quote from: VictorMTB on Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:15:44
Quote from: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:50:25
Clear or frosted/milky acrylic would work. Some people prefer frosted because it diffuses the light better.

Im hoping he has frosted but for sure he has clear.. I will update tomorrow.

Great! So I have a couple warnings for you...

It looks like you intend to run the Group Buy directly from PayPal. If you send out 25 invoices in one day and suddenly your account goes up to $10,000+ in a couple of days PayPal will freeze the funds until you ship the product! Basically if this is not normal for your PayPal account to have this much money coming in it sets off their auto-fraud detection. This has happened to countless group buy runners on GeekHack.

So be sure you can afford the raw materials because the money might get tied up. If the money is tied up and you have no materials to make your product with to ship it, everyone gets shafted. The GB runner is stuck with money they can't access because they can't ship anything, the buyers angrily want their product shipped, and getting PayPal to release the funds can take months...

The second warning is that it looks like your IC form is actually the Group buy form, meaning if I put my PayPal in the interest check then I will be invoiced. This is not an interest check. Usually payment is separate from collecting the list of potential buyers. This might scare off people who otherwise would complete your interest check.


Hey thanks for the warnings! in any case money should be frozen due to paypal issues we will still be able to buy material and manufacture as per order!
I edited my Reddit post to be more specific!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 20 August 2019, 18:17:47
Quote
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VFELx2M.jpg)


First I thought it's made by Hiney. The honeycomb bottom looks so sick man!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 21 August 2019, 01:40:01
If it's anything like the quality of your other work it will be killer. I imagine you don't want to complicate things focus on getting it right but is there any chance of a HHKB top in future if this first run is well received?
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 05:27:37
Quote from: nathanchere on Wed, 21 August 2019, 01:40:01
If it's anything like the quality of your other work it will be killer. I imagine you don't want to complicate things focus on getting it right but is there any chance of a HHKB top in future if this first run is well received?

Yes! I commented earlier how I will mostly focus on hhkb compatible plate and top if first run goes well.. but i'd also start working on a 75% design which will probably be high profile :)
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: beekey on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:10:41
Looks nice and as long as the split space support stays I'm very interested.

How hard is it to polish the "Natural Aluminum" variant? Or will it come polished?
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:19:44
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:10:41
Looks nice and as long as the split space support stays I'm very interested.

How hard is it to polish the "Natural Aluminum" variant? Or will it come polished?

We buff and wax each one with red rouge. The natural aluminum will be pretty easy to scratch, and also prone to fingerprint marks which is why we'll include a shammy towel with it.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: Frystie on Wed, 21 August 2019, 10:52:23
Quote from: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:19:44
we'll include a shammy towel with it.  :))

Count me in! (really though)
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: Capsmiths on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:36:59
Honeycomb bottom is an interesting idea. Too bad you can't really show it off. Is it for extra support?
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:46:47
Quote from: Capsmiths on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:36:59
Honeycomb bottom is an interesting idea. Too bad you can't really show it off. Is it for extra support?

Original idea was to use as weight pockets but ended up being pockets to make case lighter. Top clack guys wondered if it would make any acoustic difference - so I'm pretty curious.

It will definitely reflect rgb lighting nicely though! so we're planning to machine a 3mm frosted acrylic plate to see how it looks.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:47:12
Quote from: Frystie on Wed, 21 August 2019, 10:52:23
Quote from: VictorMTB on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:19:44
we'll include a shammy towel with it.  :))

Count me in! (really though)

Sounds good!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:58:59
I want to cut my own custom plate for a Boardwalk PCB. Could you share an SVG or DXF of the plate?

Sent from my Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 26 August 2019, 16:58:59
Quote from: equalunique on Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:58:59
I want to cut my own custom plate for a Boardwalk PCB. Could you share an SVG or DXF of the plate?

Sent from my Ono-Sendai Cyberspace 7 using Tapatalk

Sure I can!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: FredBananaz on Mon, 26 August 2019, 17:34:36
Consider me interested!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:25:02
8/27/2019 UPDATE:

new pictures of high profile top.
new renders of honeycomb on outside.
new renders of high profile top.
Gap has been brought in.



Let us know if we should lower or raise the top!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: azulyf on Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:24:38
Have asked this on reddit but didn't got reply. Wonder could you share some detail pics of the usb cutout and o-ring mounting structure? Thx.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: VictorMTB on Fri, 30 August 2019, 09:42:05
Quote from: azulyf on Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:24:38
Have asked this on reddit but didn't got reply. Wonder could you share some detail pics of the usb cutout and o-ring mounting structure? Thx.

Sorry we havent responded! - we have been pretty busy with work.. I will be getting you some pictures with dimensions asap!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% aluminum CNC case with plate. (Made in Canada)
Post by: Benitone on Fri, 30 August 2019, 09:46:19
Nice. I hope that you'll do a tkl in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: VictorMTB on Tue, 10 September 2019, 15:49:49
UPDATE 9/10/2019

New pictures of our anodized cases and plates!

We have run our first decently successful group buy off of Reddit and we have anodized our first batch of cases to ship out!
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: growler on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:02:34
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)
HHKB for the win.

6u spacebar obvs.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: VictorMTB on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:34:06
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)

Quote from: growler on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:02:34
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)
HHKB for the win.

6u spacebar obvs.

growler



I just finished modeling a top for a 7u and a seperate 6.25u HHKB top.
My understanding is that 6u spacebars and stabs arent very common?
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: growler on Wed, 11 September 2019, 15:25:41
Quote from: VictorMTB on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:34:06
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)

Quote from: growler on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:02:34
Quote from: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:46:00
The moment you have a HHKB top ready, I'm in. :)
HHKB for the win.

6u spacebar obvs.

growler



I just finished modeling a top for a 7u and a seperate 6.25u HHKB top.
My understanding is that 6u spacebars and stabs arent very common?
Spacebars are easy enough, stabs, yeah, not so much, but they do exist!

growler

Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . (Made in Canada) Updated Pictures + Price!
Post by: VictorMTB on Mon, 23 September 2019, 20:43:00
9/23/2019 UPDATE

Added Build stream and sound test by Top Clack.
Added Sound test comparison list by Tennstrong.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard 60% . Blank plate dxf + Sound test
Post by: VictorMTB on Tue, 24 September 2019, 14:44:30
Update 9/24/2019

Added Blank Plate DXF and PDF with plate dimensions.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard60 - New colors added.
Post by: MacSurfy on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:30:26
A purple one with HHKB 6.25  .. I'm so down.

Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard60 - 7U HHKB Confirmed!
Post by: VictorMTB on Fri, 27 September 2019, 17:40:58
UPDATE 9/27/2019

Added HHKB 7U Top.
Title: Re: [IC] HB60 - Honeyboard60 - Awaiting GB Approval/Vendor Status
Post by: VictorMTB on Fri, 04 October 2019, 18:31:43
**Update 10/4/2019**

New amazing renders by Macsurfy!

Still waiting for vendor status approval or Oct 14 (2 Month account age)