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Title: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 September 2019, 17:39:36: (https://i.imgur.com/Q031eki.gif)

So.. yea.. Disappointed in myself.

Buhh.. Deal's pretty gud'

Dell g3
9300h
1660Ti Max-q (slowest version basically, ~desktop 1060 6gb in perf)
2x4gb ram
512gb ssd
AC-wifi (1x1 antenna, WTF is this, why is this an option), Hopefully not bios locked.

51wh battery (this seems too small)

Screen is probably garbage.. Will update when I get it.

Price was good though, $767 after tax, + $150 gift card promo, so ~$610ish

Seems like a good deal.. Not sure.. if the screen is 2 p00p, hopefully upgradable,
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:27:34: For playing fortnite at the coffee shop?

Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:50:38: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:27:34
For playing fortnite at the coffee shop?

No, only using it to watch 4K HDR movies < downscaled to 1080p. This requires a gaming laptop, integrated GPU can't do it.

There will be Zero Gaming done on this laptop.

Only n00bies game on laptops.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 05 September 2019, 13:17:30: How many laptops does this make now?

I only have one at the moment and basically only use it to stream content from my media server to the TVs.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 05 September 2019, 13:23:01: Quote from: Kavik on Thu, 05 September 2019, 13:17:30
How many laptops does this make now?

I only have one at the moment and basically only use it to stream content from my media server to the TVs.

~12ish including ol'1s.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:24:17: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 September 2019, 17:39:36
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(https://i.imgur.com/Q031eki.gif)

So.. yea.. Disappointed in myself.

Buhh.. Deal's pretty gud'

Dell g3
9300h
1660Ti Max-q (slowest version basically, ~desktop 1060 6gb in perf)
2x4gb ram
512gb ssd
AC-wifi (1x1 antenna, WTF is this, why is this an option), Hopefully not bios locked.

51wh battery (this seems too small)

Screen is probably garbage.. Will update when I get it.

Price was good though, $767 after tax, + $150 gift card promo, so ~$610ish

Seems like a good deal.. Not sure.. if the screen is 2 p00p, hopefully upgradable,

G5 laptop, GTX 1060, Intel Core i7..

Mine
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:25:24: "Only n00bies game on laptops."

I want to build a desktop computer but unfortuately don't have the money nor skills to proceed.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 07 September 2019, 11:04:03: Quote from: Sintpinty on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:24:17

G5 laptop, GTX 1060, Intel Core i7..

Mine

You young people and ur better laptops...
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 September 2019, 22:43:34: OKOKOK..

Canceled the Dell G3 order.

Switched to G5 order.

This should be the better deal overall.

Because You get a MUCH better screen. Most importantly, this screen has Wide Gamut.

Costs ~$160 more than the G3,

But gains, + Wide Gamut + 2 cores + (NON) Max Q gpu.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 September 2019, 22:38:02: It's being delivered 2morrow..

Tp4 can't sleep.. hhhgnnnn.hhh

Nervous.. What if the laptop super sux0r.. oh the shame, the utter humiliation...

(https://i.imgur.com/gaG0i8s.gif)

Looking at ssds atm, they seem so affordable nowadays.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 September 2019, 18:50:57: Soooo... only the G3 arrived 2day, guess the G5 is gonna be here later, even though it says expect delivery today.

G3 screen is indeed not great.. Very weak coloers. 58.2% Srgb, Peak 6504k Brightness 224 cd/m2,

ODDLY enough, the Contrast ratio is fantastic (For an IPS), 1341 :1 , that's surprisingly high.

The Dithering is a bit weak sauce, so gradients arn't too sm00t.... MAY be a driver issue. not totally sure.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 September 2019, 01:46:44: After Extensive testing..

I have to say, EVEN THOUGH, this panel really lacks gamut (color), Watching HDR on it is quite OK.. HDR mapped to 220cd/m2 is somewhat below the threshold for highlights. However the contrast ratio of this particular IPS makes it acceptable.. Of course IPS still chews out shadow detail, this is a given, This one doesn't bite as hard as those 1000:1 and 700:1 panels, which take a HUGE chunk of black out.

If you like the color red, welllll, that's really the biggest weakpoint for this panel.. It can't do FIRE all that faithfully. And Indian people look Greyish instead of brown.

Now waiting on the g5.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Kavik on Sun, 15 September 2019, 21:35:36: I thought you canceled the G3 order. Did you end up getting both to compare them?
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 15 September 2019, 23:44:04: Quote from: Kavik on Sun, 15 September 2019, 21:35:36
I thought you canceled the G3 order. Did you end up getting both to compare them?

They didn't let me cancel, because it already shipped.

Impressed with the G3 overall, buh this IS a 6-bit panel as it turns out.

not the worst 6-bit panel I've ever seen though. hahahaha
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 16 September 2019, 11:56:47: Next week Tp thread:

"TP is poor and can only afford Ramen"
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 September 2019, 12:02:41: Quote from: Leslieann on Mon, 16 September 2019, 11:56:47
Next week Tp thread:

"TP is poor and can only afford Ramen"

LLann.

Tp4 am very baffled by win10 home, wth , why is it missing all da'settings ?

--Also, Yes, TP = rice + beans , 3 meals a day.--

(https://i.imgur.com/E12R2ah.gif)
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 16 September 2019, 16:00:29: Missing home settings are punishment for not buying pro.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 September 2019, 17:59:31: Quote from: Leslieann on Mon, 16 September 2019, 16:00:29
Missing home settings are punishment for not buying pro.

(https://i.imgur.com/bmmPIeW.gif)
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 16 September 2019, 22:33:16: isn't the worst wifi card ever, but it's SOooooo slow.. 1x1 antenna, not OK.

Bottom case cover is not well designed, the hot exhaust pushes directly at a few important plastic clips, over time and heat cycling, these clips will become brittle and break during removal.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2019, 10:07:01: How do people game on laptops. the screen is smole, and so you have to sit pretty darn close to it, but then , your arms arn't comfortable, because they're bent at an odd angle...

This is very likely to cause RSI.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2019, 13:34:33: GDI, the dell rep lied 2 Tp4. Received the G5 today.

the 144hz panel is NOT wide-gamut, it is Srgb, albeit good coverage.

Sigh... On the one hand, it's a pretty good panel w/ 144hz..

On the other hand, mah mewviez won't l00k as gud'..

So, if anyone is getting the g5, it seems the 60hz panel is the one with Wide Gamut..

(https://i.imgur.com/zh8eloM.gif)
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2019, 16:59:15: after some testing.. g5 is obviously the better laptop of the 2.

Out of the box, it indeed thermal throttles, but This is within design spec.

Basically they're allow a peak power limit within the dissipation envelope. and 9/10 times, the reduced CPU clock will not reduce frame rate.

Undervolted, it can hold 4ghz, However, it's as loud as a hair dryer, 2 feet in front of your face.

Even slightly louder than the G3.

The non-maxq GPU is alot faster more than 20% in alot of cases..

The chassis design is better, the fan is not blowing at the bottom of the screen overheating the LEDs.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 18 September 2019, 17:43:40: Throttling by design and sounds like a hair dryer even undervolted, and this is the better option? I'll stick with my desktop thanks.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2019, 18:25:34: Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 18 September 2019, 17:43:40
Throttling by design and sounds like a hair dryer even undervolted, and this is the better option? I'll stick with my desktop thanks.

Yea, it's a problem on all of these g4m3r laptops. The dissipation envelope at this (size) is ~150 watts.

The throttling is to keep it stable @ 100 C, the chip is designed to handle the temp.

ALTHOUGH, full disclosure, Tp4 has already burned out the power LED on the G3. Don't know what happened, guess it overheated. and one of the traces burned up.

But there arn't any options though.. The only laptops that CAN watch 4K HDR movies in full quality are laptops with ~1060-1660ti-2060 gpus.

And these gpus are only in these Hot running gaming laptops.

I can buy a more meek cooler running laptop, but if it can't even play the movies standard for the next 10 years, it'll become ewaste quite quickly.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2019, 21:26:18: With the undervolt on the CPU, The GPU can overclock to 1920mhz, ~ 6% slower than the Desktop version.

That's pretttty decent for a laptop..
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 19 September 2019, 15:43:34: Ok, the G3 1660ti maxQ benches ~10-15% lower than the G5 1660ti vanilla.

In total, +2 Cpu cores + 10% on Gpu + 144hz screen + 1tb spinner - minus 256gb ssd = + $160..

DIY upgrading the G3 screen on its own to 144hz, would cost $120 on its own.

Hrrrrrrmmm................... Tp4 believes initial valuation is --correct-- that the g5 is a better buy....

That said, going with the G5, Tp4 will have $230 locked to Rakuten .. upgrading the SSD sometime this year, but still..

Gekha Opinions ??
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 19 September 2019, 21:46:02: Hrrrrmmmm... Unfortunately, Laptops are still bad for starcraft 2.. CPU clockspeeds are way too limited.

4Ghz is like, 2010 speed (for starcraft 2)
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 19 September 2019, 22:59:58: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 19 September 2019, 21:46:02
Hrrrrmmmm... Unfortunately, Laptops are still bad for starcraft 2.. CPU clockspeeds are way too limited.

4Ghz is like, 2010 speed (for starcraft 2)

This is insane, it's been 9 years, starcraft 2 still runs like crap.
Title: Re: Bough Nothr' Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 22 September 2019, 11:18:13: Pathetique Starcraft-R Performance ... Laptops are super weak on RTS.

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