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Title: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 19 September 2019, 15:58:30
How much would you guys put the real value of a HHKB at? What would you guys think would be a reasonable price for it?

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:00:08
maybe $5.99 on a good day
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: rxc92 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 17:10:44
Some number between $3.49 and $3.51
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: ullr on Thu, 19 September 2019, 17:41:35
Price, $50-60. Maybe $70.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Sup on Thu, 19 September 2019, 17:51:09
150 ish
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 19 September 2019, 18:40:12
If you are talking aftermarket, it depends on mods, etc. Do not buy a new one, you can always get them cheaper aftermarket if you wait a bit. Plus, there are a few different models to choose between too.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2019, 18:42:27
Priceless

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 19 September 2019, 19:20:35
$119.95
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: cekagekh on Thu, 19 September 2019, 22:00:10
$150 unmodded. $60 lubed.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: vegs on Fri, 20 September 2019, 02:51:57
Priceless

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Fri, 20 September 2019, 05:55:20
$150 unmodded. $60 lubed.
You think it's worse lubed?

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: swedishpiehole on Fri, 20 September 2019, 12:27:43
Typing experience is priceless, but the actual device shouldn't cost over $100, tops. Hasn't been updated in what, 6 years? Plus, it's all plastic. I love mine (bluetooth version) but don't know if I'd buy it all over again at full price.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Fri, 20 September 2019, 12:30:21
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: rxc92 on Fri, 20 September 2019, 15:31:05
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.
 
Many faithful fans have passed away holding their breath for that.. I'd not do that if I were you.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Fri, 20 September 2019, 16:35:54
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.
 
Many faithful fans have passed away holding their breath for that.. I'd not do that if I were you.
We have official confirmation from the company that it's coming this year though. Might as well wait it out

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: rxc92 on Sat, 21 September 2019, 07:58:56
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.
 
Many faithful fans have passed away holding their breath for that.. I'd not do that if I were you.
We have official confirmation from the company that it's coming this year though. Might as well wait it out
 
 
Wow, really? Could you link me to the announcement, I hadn't heard of it.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Rob27shred on Sat, 21 September 2019, 09:27:33
To me I would rather go with something sturdier like a Leopold FC660C or RF TKL. I know both of them are larger form factors, but the build quality & materials used to make them are better IMHO. The HHKBs have always been overpriced for what they are. Don't get me wrong a plastic built HHKB is not a bad board in anyway & I'd definitely recommend it pretty highly if it's pricing was lower to reflect the build quality/all plastic build. Unfortunately to me the price is just not worth what you get with HHKBs.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Sat, 21 September 2019, 13:33:24
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.
 
Many faithful fans have passed away holding their breath for that.. I'd not do that if I were you.
We have official confirmation from the company that it's coming this year though. Might as well wait it out
 
 
Wow, really? Could you link me to the announcement, I hadn't heard of it.
I can't find it but it's been rumored to be announced at a California Meetup in November

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: eniigma on Sat, 21 September 2019, 13:33:56
Well, I'm ready for HHKB 3 right now, holding off on buying the two for a couple more months.
 
Many faithful fans have passed away holding their breath for that.. I'd not do that if I were you.
We have official confirmation from the company that it's coming this year though. Might as well wait it out
 
 
Wow, really? Could you link me to the announcement, I hadn't heard of it.
I can't find it but it's been rumored to be announced at a California Meetup in November

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actually found it
https://www.keychatter.com/2018/11/13/hhkb-professional-refresh-coming-fall-2019/

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Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: rxc92 on Sat, 21 September 2019, 14:07:20
I saw that but it does seem a bit hazy. Here's hoping that it's not a letdown, and also here's hoping that they keep a wired option for the (possible) Pro 3.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Venaros on Thu, 26 September 2019, 16:54:18
<$120
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: romevi on Thu, 26 September 2019, 17:56:04
Priceless

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This is what I was looking for.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: killyou on Thu, 26 September 2019, 18:32:33
Plastic case, no plate, less complicated and simpler to manufacture switching mechanism than MX. I think 60$ should be enough.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: rxc92 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 18:36:00
less complicated and simpler to manufacture switching mechanism than MX. I think 60$ should be enough.
   
 :rolleyes: Didn't know anyone actually believed this in 2019
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: killyou on Thu, 26 September 2019, 18:49:35
The only reason they are that expensive is lower production runs and licensing. The only knock off of similar size with plate and RGB is 129$. If everyone could make them it would be a lot cheaper, just like MX boards.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: 1391401 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 22:58:34
first real answer - it's a 60 dollar keyboard at best
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: L0rdN1k0n on Mon, 30 September 2019, 12:59:25
If it were around $100 or less I'd definitely try one.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: mizzoperator on Tue, 01 October 2019, 14:13:58
If you used literally any other switch rather than Topre, you could probably shave a few hundred bucks off the price tag. Topre switches (although I struggle to call them that) are absurdly expensive for some reason. I've never been able to wrap my head around the cost, considering it's just a capacitive conical spring and a rubber dome. Maybe it's more complicated than that, I don't know.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:24:51
If you used literally any other switch rather than Topre, you could probably shave a few hundred bucks off the price tag. Topre switches (although I struggle to call them that) are absurdly expensive for some reason. I've never been able to wrap my head around the cost, considering it's just a capacitive conical spring and a rubber dome. Maybe it's more complicated than that, I don't know.

I believe the PCBs & MCs are much more complicated & expensive than what is used for any contact based sensing mechanism switch PCB (MX, ALPS, etc.). Also I can't remember for sure, but when I had my 660C open I believe that there was a good bit more SMD parts than you'd find on a MX/ALPS PCB. So I think that is the big factors that cause a more expensive product to produce. Although don't be fooled Topre & PFU still are putting a huge markup on their manufacturing cost per board. I think they could easily chop $50 off the price & still be in the black per board sold.
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:37:17
How much would you guys put the real value of a HHKB at? What would you guys think would be a reasonable price for it?

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A kidney if you're buying the ruby dusted keycaps
Title: Re: True Price of a HHKB
Post by: TopreFan333 on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:59:35
$500 because that's how much I've saved over the past few years by having ONE keyboard I love and not screwing around with aftermarket key caps and different switches and blah blah blah. Sure, I decorated it with a couple of colored mods and put an excellent PBT space bar on it to ward off the shine, but that's it.

The HHKB ships with awesome, thick PBT key caps and while people love to ***** about it being plastic, the fact is the build quality is incredible and it weighs nothing in my bag. I love the layout, love the compactness of it, love the sound and feel. I pop my key caps off a couple times a year and give them a scrub, vaccuum out any dust, and I'm back in business.

I see myself typing on this thing years down the road -- with the one caveat being that if I should decide to start writing on an iPad or something, I guess I'd be wanting the Bluetooth version instead...