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Title: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 September 2019, 13:42:30
Welp..  Now I'm traumatized..

If anyone has been recommended this film. prolly read the synopsis if you're squeamish. 
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: demik on Tue, 24 September 2019, 13:55:37
Did you plan to watch unplanned? Or was it an unplanned viewing of unplanned?
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 September 2019, 14:06:00
Did you plan to watch unplanned? Or was it an unplanned viewing of unplanned?

There r lots of pr0-lifrs @ wurk..  The conversation always come up right after something about trump..   They've been pushing xcitment on this movie for a long time now.

Tp4 saw it just to -be in the know-.   So, Tp4 bears responsibility for the decision.

It was a planned viewing.  Although, Probably should've done it Before Lunch.. 

Feeling nauseous.. ..
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:28:35
Welp..  Now I'm traumatized..

If anyone has been recommended this film. prolly read the synopsis if you're squeamish. 

Ok will read about it on wikipedia...
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 24 September 2019, 17:30:13
Welp..  Now I'm traumatized..

If anyone has been recommended this film. prolly read the synopsis if you're squeamish. 

So movie like...

Ab0rtion bad pr0 l1fe good!1111
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 24 September 2019, 18:12:02
So basically, they show the ultrasound abortion(suction), heavily modified (reacting to the suction) to suit their narrative?
 ::)
roflWhy not add come cgi of the devil condemning you to hell for eternity while you're at it. Silly Filmmakers.

Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 September 2019, 19:29:33
So basically, they show the ultrasound abortion(suction), heavily modified (reacting to the suction) to suit their narrative?
 ::)
roflWhy not add come cgi of the devil condemning you to hell for eternity while you're at it. Silly Filmmakers.

Can't attest to the medical correctness of the movie's depiction. However, it was gross, and I wish I could un-see it.

There are certainly worthwhile components to the narrative on the problematic application of capitalist structure towards the _Act Of Doing_.. Where corporate is pushing their chemical service like "like frenchfries + soda."

However, they may be stretching the religious/ human rights facet a bit too far to reach that emotional connection..

Or has Tp4 been so dehumanized that he thinks this way? don't no.
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:52:36
So basically, they show the ultrasound abortion(suction), heavily modified (reacting to the suction) to suit their narrative?
 ::)
roflWhy not add come cgi of the devil condemning you to hell for eternity while you're at it. Silly Filmmakers.

Can't attest to the medical correctness of the movie's depiction. However, it was gross, and I wish I could un-see it.

There are certainly worthwhile components to the narrative on the problematic application of capitalist structure towards the _Act Of Doing_.. Where corporate is pushing their chemical service like "like frenchfries + soda."

However, they may be stretching the religious/ human rights facet a bit too far to reach that emotional connection..

Or has Tp4 been so dehumanized that he thinks this way? don't no.


yuck..

no wonder it came in a limited number of theatres
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:51:35
I am pro-abortion.
Not "pro-choice", but pro-abortion. If either parent does not want the kid: forced abortion!
But make sure that each abortion costs the requesting parent something, not necessarily of monetary value but that it is less stressing than raising a child or child support would be.

We can't reduce problems with climate change and resource utilisation without damping the population explosion.
... Especially the population explosion among those groups in the world that use the most natural resources, emit the most greenhouse gases and believe every **** they hear on a propaganda TV channel controlled by the oil and gas lobby.
We could start with closing down the fertility clinics.
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:08:34
There is no population explosion. All 1st world countries are below replacement rate in new humans.

If you did absolutely nothing and the country had no immigration, the population would either (die on its own) or (stabilize),   

The movie is more about the problematic capitalist-agenda in selling abortion as a _product_..

Of course the people funding the movie lean from the religious/ fundamentalist/ traditionalist side, and so they've invested in their emotional narrative on top of the more mechanical issues. ( This is difficult to work with whenever you involve feelings )

< is is wrong to have so undefined a scope for decision making ? >
< don't know >
< it's not good engineering >
< but engineering isn't perfect >
< engineering is a reduced complexity model >
< in many situations, awareness of the limitations in the application of engineering is warranted >
< for example, you can take a pill for pain relief, but it does not prevent future pain, or whatever caused that pain to occur >
< abortive procedure fixes the consequence of a potentially highly-non-optimal child rearing situation, however it does not address the utility of (possibly over utilization) of Critical human biology solely as entertainment >
< there are causes and consequences we can not simply analyze away, so the fundamentalists turn to the Older book as a stop/pause to re-evaluate >

< Overall, Anytime there is a billion dollar industry, alcohol/ tobacco/ porn / abortion some caution is warranted >
< Good or bad,  No one knows , if we all die , they win the argument , but everyone loses

If everyone lives, they'll just keep arguing until one of the 2 dies,   Queue Thanos >
Title: Re: Just saw Unplanned (2019) [Controversial]
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 26 September 2019, 10:18:00
There is no population explosion. All 1st world countries are below replacement rate in new humans.
As it should be. The global population is already above sustainable levels. The population needs to decrease.

The US replacement rate has plateaued after a high increase in previous decades, and combined with longer life-spans and immigration, the population is still rising.
Even with no immigration (which is unlikely), the US population is not expected to stop growing until around 2050.