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Title: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Mon, 30 September 2019, 16:58:27
GROUP BUY LINK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103268.0)

Hello everyone.

As mentioned earlier (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101920.0) we have been working with JTK on HSA, their new keycap profile and we can finally share the launch sets and the groupbuy details!

We plan to run the following two sets at the same time.
There is one kit only, focussed on basic compatibily to keep the price low.  I was told by JTK that in the first production run ISO support wont be a thing.  JTK will most likely have a change of heart and put ISO support in the basekit as well.  I will share info about this as soon as there is an update.

(https://i.imgur.com/u4CWdio.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u0R6aa7.jpg)

MOQ per set: 250.
The set will be packaged in JTK trays.

Vendors and pricing HSA White on Black
US: novelkeys.xyz: 75 USD
EU: mykeyboard.eu: 75 EUR
ASIA: zfrontier.com: 479 CNY | en.zfrontier.com 75USD
AUS: dailyclack.com: 122.25 AUD

Vendors and pricing HSA Beige on Brown
US: dixiemech.com: -
EU: mykeyboard.eu: 75 EUR
ASIA: zfrontier.com: 479 CNY | en.zfrontier.com 75USD
AUS: dailyclack.com: 122.25 AUD

Groupbuy launch date: TBA but very soon ;-)

Special thanks to:
- JTK for the patience and listening to our feedback.
- All the vendors for running the sets.
- Janglad and Ryan for helping me with the core kit design and renders.
- Eskimojo, ISO_Returns, konstantin, kwerdenker and Miguel Farah for helping me draft some ISO options <3.

(https://i.imgur.com/JjSPvvY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MEw66BT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QPkectF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/A1UHBUM.jpg)

https://www.jtkeycaps.com (https://www.jtkeycaps.com)

edits
- [2019/10/1] added Daily Clack prices
- [2019/10/1] added zF prices
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Abec13 on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:00:48
For that price, how can I not?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:01:40
Looks cool! Any chance of a side profile comparison to other established profiles (cherry, oem, sa, dsa etc)?

Also, fix the reference to "White on Brown" above pricing.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: ttom on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:05:29
finally it's happening, definitely in with that price  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:10:03
will buy the brown first day available!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:10:39
Looks cool! Any chance of a side profile comparison to other established profiles (cherry, oem, sa, dsa etc)?

Also, fix the reference to "White on Brown" above pricing.

fixed  :thumb:
And side profile vs SP SA:
(https://i.imgur.com/t3l0lrF.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:21:01
You already know once ISO is there I'm all over these :D
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: toddwardz on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:25:42
Consider it sold, at least one or two to me :-).
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 30 September 2019, 17:28:00
Awesome pricing! Definitely a little cheaper than I though the first sets would be, count me in for one WoB set!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: piercejenkins on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:05:11
It’s a long shot, but any chance we can get some ortho support? Asking for a friend 😅
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: nasp on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:14:43
It’s a long shot, but any chance we can get some ortho support? Asking for a friend 😅

He's asking for me 😂
run
Ortho support would only require 4, 1u mods and a 2u spacebar, at least for minimal support. It's ok if they don't do it for this run.

I do think split spacebars would be even better considering all of the split builds - Alice and so forth.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:02:05
Nice Necro <3

Looking forward to hear about that good news from JTK :p
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Protein on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:24:48
I like it. How about comparison shots with cherry profile?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Damage on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:11:34
I’m in, probably for one of each set. Looks great.

But are they really gonna say “BACK SPACE” on the backspace key?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: ptiede on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:19:27
100% in for brown!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:29:10
I'm in, but why do the renders have so much shine on it lol.

Did Tyson run the design for it lol
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 30 September 2019, 22:00:03
Shiny caps are lit :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Tue, 01 October 2019, 02:24:29
I’m in, probably for one of each set. Looks great.

But are they really gonna say “BACK SPACE” on the backspace key?

Thats an old render ˆˆ.  Has been fixed already with new molds.  The kit renders show the updated keys.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: booleanjulien on Tue, 01 October 2019, 02:37:50
I'd love to see the brown a bit darker/richer. I made some quick mockups in photoshop:

(https://i.imgur.com/ghF6vPk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vb6P4s3.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: helix999 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 22:35:07
The brown looks amazing, in for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 02 October 2019, 09:04:49
If i read the post right on the keycaps page, they’re really gonna be this shiny. Fine by me, I like that. Will they dull over time?

Any chance of brown set w/ USA vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: King4477 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 09:23:33
If i read the post right on the keycaps page, they’re really gonna be this shiny. Fine by me, I like that. Will they dull over time?

Any chance of brown set w/ USA vendor?

+1

Love the shine. Would like both black and brown, would be great if carried by the same vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Zylkan on Wed, 02 October 2019, 09:34:43
What about their thickness, anything on that? Couldn't find it on their website
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 02 October 2019, 11:00:15
(https://i.imgur.com/07L2wBW.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Ja3_420 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 14:03:42
Preshined and in jtk trays for 75 euro?! very nice mkb.eu  :thumb: Definitely interested in a set
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: juliandoucette on Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:39:16
I like this.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Wed, 02 October 2019, 17:39:31
What about their thickness, anything on that? Couldn't find it on their website

Pretty darn ticc:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102680.msg2816306#msg2816306
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Techichi on Wed, 02 October 2019, 18:33:30
Classy. In for WoB.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: phinix on Thu, 03 October 2019, 07:31:04
Browns for me!
But pleeeease - add ISO UK to base kit, its only few caps.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: audiosl4ve on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:08:39
Browns for me!
But pleeeease - add ISO UK to base kit, its only few caps.

JTK doesn't have ISO enter molds atm..
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:39:54
Browns for me!
But pleeeease - add ISO UK to base kit, its only few caps.

JTK doesn't have ISO enter molds atm..

JTK is considering adding these molds from the start for these HSA sets ;-).  Konstantin and others helped drafting the required keys.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:42:51
Love the idea 👍 This run isn't for me due to no Colemak compat but I'll definitely be in for a future WoB run when that compat is added.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:19:55
I love SA's shape but they were too high for me.

I'm totally in for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:21:18
Would like to note that in the renders you've got a SRCLK key instead of what I presume should be SCRLK.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: JT Keycaps on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:44:00
Would like to note that in the renders you've got a SRCLK key instead of what I presume should be SCRLK.
This is my mistake. The wrong key will be corrected.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:48:12
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: piercejenkins on Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:33:21
Please please please add a few 1u mods for ortho support!!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: online on Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:41:34
I wish it includes smaller spacebars (2/2.25/2.7u), i would order beige on brown in an instant.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: geekit on Thu, 03 October 2019, 21:27:12
Apology if these have been asked before, but what is the homing type on this profile? Deep dish, bar, or dot?

And since this is already shiny from the start, I guess I don't need to ask this, but still.. what type of plastic? ABS or PBT or..?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: beekey on Fri, 04 October 2019, 04:23:47
Will get a brown kit, but would love to see ortho and split space support.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: The Rhymenocerus on Fri, 04 October 2019, 04:45:56
In.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: audiosl4ve on Fri, 04 October 2019, 04:59:48
Apology if these have been asked before, but what is the homing type on this profile? Deep dish, bar, or dot?

And since this is already shiny from the start, I guess I don't need to ask this, but still.. what type of plastic? ABS or PBT or..?

to quote from first thread: "HSA or HALF SA is a double shot ABS keycap profile with a glossy finish."
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: geekit on Fri, 04 October 2019, 05:22:51
Apology if these have been asked before, but what is the homing type on this profile? Deep dish, bar, or dot?

And since this is already shiny from the start, I guess I don't need to ask this, but still.. what type of plastic? ABS or PBT or..?

to quote from first thread: "HSA or HALF SA is a double shot ABS keycap profile with a glossy finish."

Thank you. And from the renders, it seems that it's using deep dish homing keys? Or is it a dot/bar?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: phinix on Fri, 04 October 2019, 08:18:24
Does it mean no ISO for first run?
Would ISO be available once moulds are done?
For example if you guys run brown set now, base kit, will you make ISO in the future for it?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:24:50
Does it mean no ISO for first run?
Would ISO be available once moulds are done?
For example if you guys run brown set now, base kit, will you make ISO in the future for it?

might have ISO in base.  Just not confirmed at this point :-)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: phinix on Mon, 07 October 2019, 06:09:55
Does it mean no ISO for first run?
Would ISO be available once moulds are done?
For example if you guys run brown set now, base kit, will you make ISO in the future for it?

might have ISO in base.  Just not confirmed at this point :-)

Ooooh, that would be sweeeeet  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: rouwell on Tue, 08 October 2019, 20:49:54
Will get a black kit :)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: _senya on Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:47:39
Just got into GB for FoxKeys 65%, black and white, was wondering what keycaps to go with - it looks like I found just the right set.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: deLEES on Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:27:13
Want, want want... but pretty please ISO compatibility  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: zyth3x on Sun, 13 October 2019, 17:26:31
In for WoB.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: yui on Tue, 15 October 2019, 07:49:22
with an iso enter key i would be in for a wob (i really do not mind US legends as i do use US-ISO) as there seem to be some extra 1u to fit the added hole (wrong legend but works well enouth)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Tue, 15 October 2019, 16:50:56
JTK informed me that ISO wont be possible in the initial run :(
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: phinix on Wed, 16 October 2019, 04:16:25
JTK informed me that ISO wont be possible in the initial run :(
:'( :'( :'(

But would they make ISO later on, as an extra kit to buy?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: yui on Wed, 16 October 2019, 04:19:56
Guess i am going to have to wait on the next run (if ever)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: gaytore123 on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:51:43
Very interested. Would love to see renders of the WoB keyset with the white accents on a black keyboard.

I live in Canada, anyone have experience with shipping and duties from Novelkeys? Hopefully the duties and shipping won't kill this deal!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: deLEES on Wed, 23 October 2019, 07:32:57
JTK informed me that ISO wont be possible in the initial run :(

Sadness :( That's me out. Wishing you luck though.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: piercejenkins on Wed, 23 October 2019, 09:29:21
Is there any chance you can add a few 1u mods for ortho support? I really want this for my ortho builds
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: JT Keycaps on Wed, 30 October 2019, 03:12:55
The gb start in China now.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 30 October 2019, 05:24:06
JTK informed me that ISO wont be possible in the initial run :(

Sadness :( That's me out. Wishing you luck though.

Same here, the brown is superb but without ISO I also am out.  Good luck though and please run again with ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Senor Coconut on Wed, 30 October 2019, 09:04:10
Instant buy if FR ISO added (like many other french users)
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 30 October 2019, 09:23:54
The gb start in China now.

Any idea when the USA groupbuy will begin?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: JT Keycaps on Wed, 30 October 2019, 11:06:28
The gb start in China now.

Any idea when the USA groupbuy will begin?
Soon in the next month.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Jhambone9160 on Sat, 02 November 2019, 17:11:02
HSA WOB on Novelkeys website
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 02 November 2019, 17:27:21
brown one available to buy?
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Techichi on Sat, 02 November 2019, 19:04:37
HSA WOB on Novelkeys website

Nice buying now. Any word on the brown? I've decided to grab that one as well.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:23:43
I bought black and brown, and i need 3u spacebar :(
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Mon, 04 November 2019, 06:19:52
HSA WOB on Novelkeys website

Nice buying now. Any word on the brown? I've decided to grab that one as well.

https://dixiemech.store/products/hsa-beige-on-brown
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: necromanx on Mon, 04 November 2019, 08:44:54
Closing topic in favor of GB thread!
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 05 November 2019, 14:03:45
I'm in, but why do the renders have so much shine on it lol.

Did Tyson run the design for it lol

I wish I could shine caps that good LUL
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:14:25
So much wish for ISO, please please, the brown is so needed.
Title: Re: [IC] HSA White on Black & HSA Beige on Brown
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 07 November 2019, 13:30:33
GROUP BUY LINK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103268.0)
More
Hello everyone.

As mentioned earlier (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101920.0) we have been working with JTK on HSA, their new keycap profile and we can finally share the launch sets and the groupbuy details!

We plan to run the following two sets at the same time.
There is one kit only, focussed on basic compatibily to keep the price low.  I was told by JTK that in the first production run ISO support wont be a thing.  JTK will most likely have a change of heart and put ISO support in the basekit as well.  I will share info about this as soon as there is an update.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/u4CWdio.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/u0R6aa7.jpg)


MOQ per set: 250.
The set will be packaged in JTK trays.

Vendors and pricing HSA White on Black
US: novelkeys.xyz: 75 USD
EU: mykeyboard.eu: 75 EUR
ASIA: zfrontier.com: 479 CNY | en.zfrontier.com 75USD
AUS: dailyclack.com: 122.25 AUD

Vendors and pricing HSA Beige on Brown
US: dixiemech.com: -
EU: mykeyboard.eu: 75 EUR
ASIA: zfrontier.com: 479 CNY | en.zfrontier.com 75USD
AUS: dailyclack.com: 122.25 AUD

Groupbuy launch date: TBA but very soon ;-)

Special thanks to:
- JTK for the patience and listening to our feedback.
- All the vendors for running the sets.
- Janglad and Ryan for helping me with the core kit design and renders.
- Eskimojo, ISO_Returns, konstantin, kwerdenker and Miguel Farah for helping me draft some ISO options <3.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JjSPvvY.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MEw66BT.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QPkectF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/A1UHBUM.jpg)


https://www.jtkeycaps.com (https://www.jtkeycaps.com)

edits
- [2019/10/1] added Daily Clack prices
- [2019/10/1] added zF prices