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Title: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:23:31
IC Form: https://forms.gle/X7oHLXMGtJdXsjYf9

Hi all!

This IC is for the WRISTBREAKER TKL.

The WRISTBREAKER is a high angle board which takes inspiration from several classic kustoms such as the OTD 456GT, TX1800v2, Duck, TGR Jane, etc. This was at first just a fun little meme project that I didn't think would go anywhere, but once I got the prototype I was really happy with how it turned out. Although not THE heaviest board around, this thing is a hefty beast.

This will be run and fulfilled by goddream (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77580)

Plate:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518289321950707713/981341379861053460/WristBreaker_v101_Plate.png)


Specs

Other technical info:

Differences between v1 and v2 proto:

Prototype v2

(https://i.imgur.com/8Yoy67N.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2sI5m1B.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yb72HUu.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SWr2lyv.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rwjyrea.jpeg)


Prototype v1

(https://i.imgur.com/iZg0Rmq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oUFrTAf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8oKCNSQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gfmJzY5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nwe8i0d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yRKtUWP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DNfyCWJ.jpg)


***More photos: https://imgur.com/a/4JqEs7t (https://imgur.com/a/4JqEs7t)***


Underglow


Typing Test

RGB Underglow Burn-in
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/518289321950707713/981355828680486912/IMG_5512.jpg)




Pricing
TBD

Timeline
TBD

Vendors
TBD




Let me know if you have any questions, if I'm missing something, or if you want more pics!


Thanks for looking!   :thumb:


Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:23:53
first
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: would? on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:25:02
Love it!! High angle is king. Good luck :D
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:25:16
Dang 14? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/1d921d0838b5fc24e5aaacc7ef8477e3.jpg)

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Title: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: cldskt on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:27:52
Madman actually proceeded to open the IC for this. All the best bruh.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:30:35
LMAO damn good luck man
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: im_hide on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:31:51
god DAMN that is STEEP
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:34:33
Guess I'll do it for the meme, I'm in! Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights, The Jane V2 plate compatibility is also nice to see.

Ne extra wrists avail

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:38:31
Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights

(Br)ass cheeks  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Veiox on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:38:54
mmmm if only the screws were a bit bigger  :p
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:39:45
Digging the design and the "buttcheek" weights

(Br)ass cheeks  ;D
Aight, just send me an invoice now.

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: elli on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:45:48
what     the ****.          ..
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: SirShakes on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:47:57
I want in...
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: PossUmKitteH_XD on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:58:00
I really hope I get a spot for this. This is something I would love to have
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: CF73 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:02:46
Looks nice, but it'd be just be a chunky shelf piece for me  :p
45 deg when
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Krelbit on Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:08:31
I love bistromi sandwiches
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:54:01
>14° angle
Sacrifice your wirsts and surrender to the Carpal Tunnel God for your heavy keeb boi.

(https://i2.wp.com/gasparandmichele.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/No-True-Worship-Without-Sacrifice.jpg?fit=900%2C320&ssl=1)
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 10 October 2019, 01:40:46
sheesh
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: harlekein on Thu, 10 October 2019, 03:11:38
I'll stick to my ergonomic keebs.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: trg1234 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 04:52:56
Nice :p
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: phinix on Thu, 10 October 2019, 05:53:14
How... where... why... is... I'm worried.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Atlantic on Thu, 10 October 2019, 07:04:35
"rsi has joined the game"
Jokes aside superb board! Those fat screws are perfection.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: long_qt_pie on Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:17:37
Absolutely in, especially love the plate compat!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Tonkatonk on Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:27:55
I love Bisoromi and Bisoromi accessories

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Lbibass on Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:12:27
Holy ****.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:35:41
Just make a super long wristwrest at 14 degress so you can rest your forearm on it while ur typing on this thing.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:37:07
holy crap dude, I can already feel my wrists cracking

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 10:43:55
Just looking at this thing made me look up ergo boards for therapy.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: booleanjulien on Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:08:37
I'd be into this if the front weren't as high. I actually like around this angle fox XDA keycaps, as long as the front isn't too high.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:19:52
break me father
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: jizzaztartist on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:46:06
Shame about the branding
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Smoff on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:09:44
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Sup on Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:19:09
Good luck mad man
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:11:26
Shame about the branding

it says "wristbreaker" on the bottom  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: actualglacier on Fri, 11 October 2019, 00:06:18
holy s hit
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: vaughno on Fri, 11 October 2019, 05:32:26
 im in


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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: duckboi on Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:03:57
bisoriomoi is my dad
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 11 October 2019, 12:04:46
Shame about the branding
Cover it with black electrical tape
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 11 October 2019, 15:00:07
Shame about the branding
Cover it with black electrical tape

you and your sensible ideas do not belong on this ****posting emporium
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Zirylian on Fri, 11 October 2019, 21:22:11
wew it's the carpal tunnelator
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: utilitytech on Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:11:57
Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Smoff on Sat, 12 October 2019, 10:45:59
Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.
Since it is only 20 units you can pretty much rule out hotswap pcb. You can use sip sockets though, it will be pretty much the same thing.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Sat, 12 October 2019, 12:50:00
Can you tell whether the PCB will have hot swap sockets or not. The brass weights look too tame. I feel a copper weight option is also worth exploring.

Since it is only 20 units you can pretty much rule out hotswap pcb. You can use sip sockets though, it will be pretty much the same thing.

Yup, Smoff is correct! There will be no hotswap options since I'll be using the standard h87a PCB. Also regarding copper, copper does seem like a neat option but it's a material that I haven't had experience with. From what I understand copper is a little more expensive, but I do like the look of brass that has some patina on it. In any case, I won't rule out the option for copper cause I think it'd be fun to try out!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: keyboardcircle on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:22:18
no engraving on brass weight?
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: adxlk on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:46:54
no engraving on brass weight?

that depends on your wallet size
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: trg1234 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 09:20:04
no engraving on brass weight?

that depends on your wallet size

just write with sharpie  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Sun, 13 October 2019, 09:24:15
no engraving on brass weight?

Wanted to keep the design simple who opted out for any more engravings on this board!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:41:28
Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good :-X


Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Lbibass on Mon, 14 October 2019, 16:59:15
Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good :-X



Sometimes hollow boards can sound good, and other times they sound bad. This seems to be the latter. Is the interior parallel with the plate and pcb? If it's not, that could explain the sound.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Steezus on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:10:48
Updated the OP with a typing test

I'll be honest it doesn't sound that good :-X


What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad.  Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL ** ON HOLD **
Post by: bisoromi on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:29:22
Sometimes hollow boards can sound good, and other times they sound bad. This seems to be the latter. Is the interior parallel with the plate and pcb? If it's not, that could explain the sound.

This is a cross section view of the board
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/518289321950707713/633429101897580564/unknown.png)

The PCB and plate are parallel with the bottom case. I wonder if using a 1.2mm PCB has anything to do with it? Although I'm skeptical of how much a .3mm difference would make in terms of sound. I think the biggest factor to the sound might be because of the keycaps. I'm planning on making another typing test soon with PBT caps instead.


What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad.  Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Steezus on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:36:33

What plate material are you currently using with that prototype, aluminum? I honestly don't think that sounds bad.  Just an idea but, I'm curious if variances in the how "hollow" the bottom half of the case is from the inside could affect the quality of sound. Since the board has such a high angle, there is a lot more material on the bottom case to work with. If anything comes of it you could even go to try providing more of a cavity behind the alphas similar to the concept of a half-plate. Granted, there are a lot of other factors that play into sound quality such as switches, keycaps, plate, case material, etc.

FYI, I am only hearing sound out of the left channel on the video.

The plate is 1.5mm brass. I use a 'standard' 9mm distance from top of plate to bottom case. The bottom case only has a depth of 3mm. Are you saying that you think increasing this depth would improve the sound? My thinking is that that would make it sound hollower, but I don't know how sound works at all so you might be right.

Also I'll fix the video soon, I didn't catch that the audio was only on the left channel >.>

That is correct in what I was trying to portray. I am in no way knowledgable on sound myself either. It could very much sound hollower if the depth is increased. I was imagining more of an echo. It's just food for thought as I personally have never seen any board design to improve acoustics in such a way. Perhaps nobody has done it because it is pointless.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:53:49
i want you and this
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: cspirou on Mon, 28 October 2019, 15:28:06
Finally a keyboard for my hunt-and-peck style!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:19:14
this board sounds more hollow than my social life
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: DoctorNunu on Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:54:12
As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps  :))
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Thu, 07 November 2019, 10:07:33
this board sounds more hollow than my social life
:c

As a cheery on top you just had to use SA caps  :))
I love SA!!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: vaughno on Sat, 23 November 2019, 15:09:56
silver and i buy!!!


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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: papayapyjamas on Mon, 13 January 2020, 01:43:40
no update? :(
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: SUB01 on Mon, 13 January 2020, 11:01:37
The maker's wrists are broken so he can't type anymore :c
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:39:41
Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Tonkatonk on Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:08
Hi all!

I apologize for the lack of updates.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to indefinitely put this project on hold as there are other projects I'm working on right now that I want to focus on. I will definitely come back to this project but right now I'm not sure when.

If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to send me a message!

Thanks for understanding!
I think you should sell the design to a vendor, I think this tkl design could become as iconic as something like the gh60

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:46:57
i love u biso
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:18
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:03:43
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814356938137403452/818010011543273492/unknown.png)
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: long_qt_pie on Thu, 09 June 2022, 16:27:43
And we’re back!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 09 June 2022, 17:07:15
while ur breaking your wrist, bisoromi is breaking my back
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: phinix on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:08:04
(https://i.imgur.com/8Yoy67N.jpeg)

what are those keycaps?
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: wigol2506 on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:15:16
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8Yoy67N.jpeg)


what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: phinix on Fri, 10 June 2022, 03:48:45
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8Yoy67N.jpeg)


what are those keycaps?

Those are SA Biso.

Aaah, right, that one, I remember. Such a nice colors, but design is crap. I wish you could pick those sets without face, just alphas in beige and dark mods.
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 10 June 2022, 04:08:04
damn he's back
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: carlfink on Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:04:11
revive this i need it now
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:18:42
"our keyboards are designed with ergonomics in mind to give you the best typing experience possible"
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: DaaDaa on Fri, 10 June 2022, 15:07:10
big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Ansenki on Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:15:03
Will you take refunds if people don’t break their wrists from this…

also BEEG screws omg
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: warmbidetaqua on Fri, 10 June 2022, 22:35:53
hotdamn you can ski on that keyboard! glwic
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: bisoromi on Mon, 13 June 2022, 19:41:00
big, burly, and heavy, and high is good, but why so butt-ugly?

🥲
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: hali on Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:28:43
big supporter please make pink
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: ankit on Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:29:10
+1 for pink
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Riizmaa on Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:30:11
+2 pink  :p
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 14 June 2022, 22:43:32
+3 pink
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: plag on Fri, 24 June 2022, 20:26:07
+4 pink
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: ThreadyKeycaps on Fri, 24 June 2022, 21:44:31
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: hali on Fri, 24 June 2022, 22:46:45
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

this tkl is not for the weak
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 June 2022, 15:21:00
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

the old school solution for high angle is to put a shim under the front part of the board to flatten out the typing surface. obviously this will raise the front height.

but this is a board you buy specifically because of the high angle, because high typing angle is for chads
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 26 June 2022, 17:16:43
seems like angle is not adjustable. may be abit worried if it doesn't feel comfy. just my 2 cents!

Where we're going you don't need comfort...
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: darthcapn on Fri, 15 July 2022, 21:15:29
I had a dream that I was searching on mm for SA Biso for my wristbreaker. Woke up sad cuz I don't have a wristbreaker yet. Pls gib.

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Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 01 October 2022, 10:38:20
Is this still going to be a thing? I need it
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: singabore on Thu, 16 February 2023, 18:29:01
where's my wristbreaker
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: TheGreenLion172 on Fri, 17 February 2023, 00:32:21
And I thought 11 degrees was high :))
GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] WRISTBREAKER TKL
Post by: IMZO on Sat, 26 August 2023, 21:02:47
getting used with duck orions lately, i think id be ready for the 14degrees