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Title: [IC] GMK Kitsune - Closed
Post by: Joona on Fri, 18 October 2019, 19:22:56
*Update: 12/05/2019

Hello everyone, I apologize for the lack of updates in the past couple of months. I’ve had some roadblocks that I had some difficulty ironing out. I have also been dealing with some personal issues as well.

After giving it a lot of thought, I have decided to discontinue this IC for now and go a different direction with the set. The biggest reason for this is that the colorway I have chosen is much too similar to Kobayashi’s. I do not feel it’s right to proceed as is. (I also think it’d be a challenge to reach MoQ, considering the number of responses and the amount GMK sets that are planned to drop in the upcoming months.) After playing with a few options, I’ve just decided to drop the colorway and do something different with it.

I will share the new version in a different thread in the near future. For now, I am going to close this thread as I am not sure when this will be.

Lastly, I want to thank every single person who has expressed interest and has left feedback for this set. I will be taking everyone’s constructive criticism/feedback into consideration and implementing them wherever applicable in the new version. Again, I apologize to those who have expressed interest and have followed the IC.

Proposed Kits

Base Kit The base kit to cover most layouts with numpad and ISO compatibility.
(https://i.imgur.com/fpTnMdD.png)

Alt Mods Kit (Tenko) Inspired by the golden nine-tailed fox Tenko.
(https://i.imgur.com/nMX2oLu.png)

Spacebar Kit Included are 1.75u, 2u, 2.25u, 2.75u, 6u (centered), 6u (off-centered), 6.25u, & 7u.
(https://i.imgur.com/jgIlnqS.png)

Novelties Kit Coming soon. (5-8 depending on how well the set is received)



Renders

M60-A
(https://i.imgur.com/CGLOzOX.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wwaBbWj.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DZUfLQM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/D7OUkcr.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4x9XeGP.png)

Experimental render Preview of 2 novelties (mask, Kanji) and Hiragana sub alphas.
(https://i.imgur.com/yae0d4W.png)


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Agilr on Fri, 18 October 2019, 19:47:29
Love the 'about' section and your ideas on the theme for the set though the colours are not for me personally

Would love to see an update with the novelties kit as knowing OneCreativeMind they're going to be great! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Fri, 18 October 2019, 19:48:53
Hmmm idk, i love the theme but i'm not really feeling the colors.

Like, you said white and red are the most common colors that are associated with a kitsune, and yet the yellow kinda pops a lot more than the red on the base set and it looks a bit out of place, I feel like it should just be an accent?

Still, it's a really nice theme, and i'm excited to see how it'll look in the end!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:04:16
Hmmm idk, i love the theme but i'm not really feeling the colors.

Like, you said white and red are the most common colors that are associated with a kitsune, and yet the yellow kinda pops a lot more than the red on the base set and it looks a bit out of place, I feel like it should just be an accent?

Still, it's a really nice theme, and i'm excited to see how it'll look in the end!

Definitely appreciate your feedback :)

Other than the theme, there are two main reasons why I chose yellow legends on the mods. (1) I’ve gotten feedback in the first reddit post that red legends are not very visible on black (I wanted the red to stick with white and thought yellow would look best against a black bg. it's just the direction I decided to go after I dropped black bg/red legend alphas) and (2) I didn’t want this to be another red, black, and white set as there are a good number of them there like Metaverse and LedZep.

But I will definitely take all feedback into serious consideration for the next round. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:12:17
This needs - NEEDS - a Babymetal novelty key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: VirtueSeven on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:29:51
This needs a Senko novelty key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: jsfklee524 on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:33:49

Experimental render Preview of 2 novelties (mask, Kanji) and Hiragana sub alphas.
(https://i.imgur.com/yae0d4W.png)



This combination looks sick. Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:55:56
I think I'd grab a kit if you include the Hirigana sub alphas. Recently I've been wanting a GMK kit with those.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 18 October 2019, 21:24:09
I really like the colors on this, definitely following closely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Helpingly on Fri, 18 October 2019, 21:29:01
Cool name, cool theme; but the colors don't really work well together in my opinion.

I think it's the yellow, it stands out way too much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: BahaMech on Fri, 18 October 2019, 21:41:01
looks nice, but i think that the red on white alphas stand out too much
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 18 October 2019, 21:50:25
I'm getting flashback to the now-legendary Skull Squadron set.
Obviously the 2 sets are different enough, but still, very similar colorway.
Not a bad thing though. There's a reason Skull Squadron is legendary: It's long gone.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/1a/29/c11a293ded13582725900b27ac008d8d.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7eouSqc.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: infinitykw on Fri, 18 October 2019, 22:07:57
This is def one of the good colorways I would follow, and the Novelties are awesome!!! As a Chinese, can’t  say more good things that you used this font for the fox letter.   I’m looking forward to any development of this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 18 October 2019, 22:38:06
I'll say that I'm not a fan of the yellow. Black white and red is all you need.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: zakatak on Fri, 18 October 2019, 23:26:06
Can we have mods with red as the icon colors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Fri, 18 October 2019, 23:47:15
I'll say that I'm not a fan of the yellow. Black white and red is all you need.

It seems quite a few are split on the yellow in the base kit. I really wanted to add another color in the base as I didn’t want this to be another red, white, and black set. However, I’ll definitely consider an adjustment of the mods (a different/darker shade of yellow or yellow in as the accent etc.) once I get enough feedback :)

Can we have mods with red as the icon colors

I've been told that red on black may not be as visible, but I will consider changes to kit after collecting some feedback from the community.

I think I'd grab a kit if you include the Hirigana sub alphas. Recently I've been wanting a GMK kit with those.

I am willing to put Hiragana subs in the main kit if there is demand for it! Will be watching the Google form closely to see what people want.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: 1391401 on Sat, 19 October 2019, 00:15:03
I like it.  I feel like the yellow mods don't fit.  I'd get a base kit though (provided it remains latin legends).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: sickbabies on Sat, 19 October 2019, 07:49:35
Reminds me of DSA Inu and SA Kobayashi. Looking good though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 19 October 2019, 08:04:45
Those gold mods are pretty nice, I might pick that up alone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 19 October 2019, 10:56:12
I put this is the IC form, but any possibility of a Colevrak kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: trashcandrummer on Sat, 19 October 2019, 14:42:53
Instant buy if NorDe kit gets added. Really love the colors!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: msting on Sat, 19 October 2019, 14:59:42
I LOVE these colors! :p Probably can't join since no Ergodox set. I really wish I could find an Ergo board that uses a standard TKL or 65% keyset. Hate missing these really awesome color sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 19 October 2019, 16:56:44
Probably can't join since no Ergodox set. I really wish I could find an Ergo board that uses a standard TKL or 65% keyset.

Not an ergodox, but the ogre ergo IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101862.msg2793600;topicseen#msg2793600) may be up your alley. The point is to have an ergo keyboard that uses standard keysets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: belgium_waffles on Sat, 19 October 2019, 17:47:45
Looks great. I think having the hiragana subs in the base kit would be better rather than having it as a separate kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: msting on Sat, 19 October 2019, 17:50:44
Probably can't join since no Ergodox set. I really wish I could find an Ergo board that uses a standard TKL or 65% keyset.

Not an ergodox, but the ogre ergo IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101862.msg2793600;topicseen#msg2793600) may be up your alley. The point is to have an ergo keyboard that uses standard keysets.

Oh wow! That is definitely one I'd like to try. And I can snap it in half. If it makes it to GB I'm there. Great find! Thanks muchly!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Sun, 20 October 2019, 01:34:19
Instant buy if NorDe kit gets added. Really love the colors!

I LOVE these colors! :p Probably can't join since no Ergodox set. I really wish I could find an Ergo board that uses a standard TKL or 65% keyset. Hate missing these really awesome color sets.

I put this is the IC form, but any possibility of a Colevrak kit?

For sure would like to include NorDe, Ergo, or Colevrak if there is enough interest for them! I will keep a close eye on the form in the coming weeks :) Thanks for the suggestions.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 21 October 2019, 09:26:47

For sure would like to include NorDe, Ergo, or Colevrak if there is enough interest for them! I will keep a close eye on the form in the coming weeks :) Thanks for the suggestions.

If you 're going to consider NorDe, at least first ensure you have proper support for English (UK) over ISO — right now, you got "Atlantis ISO" instead in the base kit, while the remaining UK-specific keys are nowhere to be seen. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: digid3ar on Mon, 21 October 2019, 19:04:19
the red characters look a little out of place in my opinion, love the yellow mods  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 21 October 2019, 19:32:58
I'd probably buy the yellow mod set to extend other sets (like Bento kobe to make knockoff Serika) assuming it is reasonably affordable.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 21 October 2019, 21:25:10
In for Tenko yellow mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 22 October 2019, 20:22:37
This looks great but if R2 of GMK Metaverse comes by anytime soon, I don't think I'll have a reason to get this. Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Wed, 23 October 2019, 04:13:42
This looks great but if R2 of GMK Metaverse comes by anytime soon, I don't think I'll have a reason to get this. Decisions, decisions...

I have also been waiting for Metaverse myself and I understand what you mean. There is some overlap between the two sets but I do hope that the novelties and the finalized kits will offer something unique in the end. At least that is what I am working towards. :)

If you 're going to consider NorDe, at least first ensure you have proper support for English (UK) over ISO — right now, you got "Atlantis ISO" instead in the base kit, while the remaining UK-specific keys are nowhere to be seen. :thumb:

Oh hey, the famous “Atlantis” ISO guy! ;)

I admit that because this is my first IC, I’ve tried to keep the most common compatibility from GBs I’ve entered and from other sets I’ve seen. I wanted to start with this and then see where the demand takes me as there is no reason why I can’t rearrange my base kit and/or include a separate extension kit of sorts. I haven’t received much feedback on ISO though, so I may be switching up to offer full US ISO in the base kit. Thank you for the suggestion and please stay tuned! 

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Knoxx on Wed, 23 October 2019, 09:08:58
I have also been waiting for Metaverse myself and I understand what you mean. There is some overlap between the two sets but I do hope that the novelties and the finalized kits will offer something unique in the end. At least that is what I am working towards. :)

Looking forward to see what's in store then. Good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 23 October 2019, 12:47:02
If you 're going to consider NorDe, at least first ensure you have proper support for English (UK) over ISO — right now, you got "Atlantis ISO" instead in the base kit, while the remaining UK-specific keys are nowhere to be seen. :thumb:

Oh hey, the famous “Atlantis” ISO guy! ;)

Hmmm... not the infamous “Atlantis” ISO guy... GREAT! ;D


I admit that because this is my first IC, I’ve tried to keep the most common compatibility from GBs I’ve entered and from other sets I’ve seen. I wanted to start with this and then see where the demand takes me as there is no reason why I can’t rearrange my base kit and/or include a separate extension kit of sorts. I haven’t received much feedback on ISO though, so I may be switching up to offer full US ISO in the base kit. Thank you for the suggestion and please stay tuned! 


Excellent. I'll be happy to help you stamp out errors if need be. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 23 October 2019, 12:53:44
Please consider CP or L9 for the base alpha keycap colour.

WS1 Is the Hep C of gmk keysets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Willhurt2008 on Wed, 23 October 2019, 22:06:09
I love base set, not a fan of yellow mods. Would strip them if that makes base cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Wed, 23 October 2019, 22:31:43
Please consider CP or L9 for the base alpha keycap colour.

WS1 Is the Hep C of gmk keysets.

Thanks for the suggestion. Can I ask why I should be avoiding WS1? Any specific cases or previously dropped sets I can look into for this?

I love base set, not a fan of yellow mods. Would strip them if that makes base cheaper.

Do you mean the Tenko alt mods or the yellow legends in the mods in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: NeroGrave on Thu, 24 October 2019, 01:08:35
Looks good, im in for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 24 October 2019, 14:54:29
WS1 is wayyy to bright, better balance and transition between the black mods and white alphas for CP or L9. Also alot easier on the eyes  Look at GMK Olivia for example.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Knoxx on Thu, 24 October 2019, 21:38:35
Please consider CP or L9 for the base alpha keycap colour.

WS1 Is the Hep C of gmk keysets.

Thanks for the suggestion. Can I ask why I should be avoiding WS1? Any specific cases or previously dropped sets I can look into for this?

I believe GMK metaverse uses WS1 as well and received quite a bit of feedback against it. Dead Encryption still used it nonetheless.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Agilr on Thu, 24 October 2019, 22:37:07
Please consider CP or L9 for the base alpha keycap colour.

WS1 Is the Hep C of gmk keysets.

Thanks for the suggestion. Can I ask why I should be avoiding WS1? Any specific cases or previously dropped sets I can look into for this?

I believe GMK metaverse uses WS1 as well and received quite a bit of feedback against it. Dead Encryption still used it nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with using WS1, it's just that I think some people are tired of people using WS1 for literally every single white alpha set. CP is slightly darker and warmer and is really nice to compliment a lot of sets (as seen on Olivia).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Pluto19 on Fri, 25 October 2019, 01:08:47
I'm digging this Tenko kit :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: phinix on Wed, 30 October 2019, 08:42:18
Is this yellow same as GMK Nautilus yellow?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Senor Coconut on Wed, 30 October 2019, 09:02:01
Instant buy if FR Kit added (like many other french users, actually)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Zhu96 on Wed, 30 October 2019, 21:52:51
definitely in, when will the GB starts? Any discord channel for this? Don't want to miss it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: alvinpaul on Thu, 31 October 2019, 01:46:48
Instabuy 😊
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: kkakihat on Thu, 31 October 2019, 05:39:09
mad gundam vibes from this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 31 October 2019, 09:00:39
Plz split numpad kit. Will be all over it for Tenko + numpad + hiragana kit. Or perhaps there can be a separate full set of this combo as it may be cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: phinix on Thu, 31 October 2019, 10:56:57
Please consider CP or L9 for the base alpha keycap colour.

WS1 Is the Hep C of gmk keysets.

Thanks for the suggestion. Can I ask why I should be avoiding WS1? Any specific cases or previously dropped sets I can look into for this?

I love base set, not a fan of yellow mods. Would strip them if that makes base cheaper.

Do you mean the Tenko alt mods or the yellow legends in the mods in the base kit?

Is this yellow same as GMK Nautilus yellow?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:12:23
mad gundam vibes from this

I'm seeing more of a Skull Squadron from Macross/Robotech vibe.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 31 October 2019, 12:09:56
Is this yellow same as GMK Nautilus yellow?

Oohh, you thinking about pairing this with GMK Nautilus? I've been thinking about it too. Pairing the alphas of this kit with the modifiers of Nautilus (and using some of the red modifiers of Kitsune too). I even did a mockup (https://i.imgur.com/GX3lENd.png) and it looks decent enough.

But to answer your question, it's not exactly the same. Nautilus yellow is GMK N6, and the yellow in this set is RAL 0808060. I think RAL 0808060 is a little less saturated, but judging by the render of Kistune and the pictures of GMK Nautilus these two yellows should be somewhat close.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Sat, 02 November 2019, 16:56:30
I got a lil bit of a Gundam armor vibe with that mockup.

Is this yellow same as GMK Nautilus yellow?

Oohh, you thinking about pairing this with GMK Nautilus? I've been thinking about it too. Pairing the alphas of this kit with the modifiers of Nautilus (and using some of the red modifiers of Kitsune too). I even did a mockup (https://i.imgur.com/GX3lENd.png) and it looks decent enough.

But to answer your question, it's not exactly the same. Nautilus yellow is GMK N6, and the yellow in this set is RAL 0808060. I think RAL 0808060 is a little less saturated, but judging by the render of Kistune and the pictures of GMK Nautilus these two yellows should be somewhat close.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:24:17
with 3u spacebar, i will buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: jsfklee524 on Wed, 06 November 2019, 14:52:15
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Joona on Wed, 06 November 2019, 15:01:20
definitely in, when will the GB starts? Any discord channel for this? Don't want to miss it.

Thank you for your interest. Still early in the process so I am not exactly sure about the GB date. But I will have an estimate soon after I finalize the kits and get in touch with some vendors. Also will set a Discord up in the near future if there is some interest for that!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Jude. on Wed, 06 November 2019, 22:44:09
Love it! But what about yellow alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 07 November 2019, 06:21:06
Very Interested.
Especially in the Novelties (once they come!)
Deskmat with a kitsune... oh boy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Kitsune
Post by: Weaselpc on Sun, 10 November 2019, 15:20:30
I'd be down for this set looking forward to it