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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: monteyalps on Mon, 25 November 2019, 16:15:01

Title: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: monteyalps on Mon, 25 November 2019, 16:15:01
Ok. So after about 2 years of owning this board I've finally come to the conclusion that I want to use these switches in a build. The main issue is that I can't actually get an accurate answer of what they are.

What is my guess? A tactical variant of the Ducky KSB-C switch (Which is a variant of the Xiang Min KSB series) https://deskthority.net/wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series

Why is that weird? The Ducky variant is supposed to be clicky.

So now I'm a little stuck. Is this just a tactical version of the Xiang Min KSB series Ducky switch that just so happens to be tactical and neon green? Or is this a different clone that is deliberately ripping off the Alps SKCM Green (Not that I care)?

I am seriously considering putting these in the h87a Alps build I plan to put together this winter (Waiting on the case), I enjoy the feel quite a bit (They seem very tactical and kind of remind me of stock cherry mx clears but much smoother and they sound a little more pingy).

 So, what the hell do I even call these? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/b497cd0554351385f1372545c2d74cfb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/9005d86154d51a112e6bc307838e7614.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/376960f30dc1cba668124d68fb9947fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/655c9923262046583f5d3a9f0064fd15.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/929e1e77fa03500239169d43d2fe4254.jpg)


Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: mode on Tue, 26 November 2019, 02:45:41
Can you open up a switch and show us inside?
Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 26 November 2019, 11:17:24
Ok. So after about 2 years of owning this board I've finally come to the conclusion that I want to use these switches in a build. The main issue is that I can't actually get an accurate answer of what they are.

What is my guess? A tactical variant of the Ducky KSB-C switch (Which is a variant of the Xiang Min KSB series) https://deskthority.net/wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series

Why is that weird? The Ducky variant is supposed to be clicky.

So now I'm a little stuck. Is this just a tactical version of the Xiang Min KSB series Ducky switch that just so happens to be tactical and neon green? Or is this a different clone that is deliberately ripping off the Alps SKCM Green (Not that I care)?

I am seriously considering putting these in the h87a Alps build I plan to put together this winter (Waiting on the case), I enjoy the feel quite a bit (They seem very tactical and kind of remind me of stock cherry mx clears but much smoother and they sound a little more pingy).

 So, what the hell do I even call these?
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How do you determine if an alps switch is fake or not?
Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: mode on Tue, 26 November 2019, 11:25:47
How do you determine if an alps switch is fake or not?

No known genuine alps switches have centred random numbers under the slider like these do.
Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 26 November 2019, 11:28:51
How do you determine if an alps switch is fake or not?

No known genuine alps switches have centred random numbers under the slider like these do.

Oh, okay then. Thanks
Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: monteyalps on Tue, 26 November 2019, 12:00:40
Can you open up a switch and show us inside?
Of course! Here is one that I messed up a bit (had to learn how to open these boys up..)

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Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: monteyalps on Tue, 26 November 2019, 12:22:16
It also seems like the KSB series of switches are much younger than this board. So now I'm kinda lost...lol. The only other guess I have is alps.tw Type T5 variant that isn't documented yet? After looking inside this switch the internals are just different from the KSB switches.

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Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: TheInverseKey on Tue, 26 November 2019, 15:33:45
Is there not another leaf for tactility or is it just the basic switch plate?

Title: Re: Help me identify these fake neon green Alps!
Post by: monteyalps on Tue, 26 November 2019, 17:00:55
Nope. This is it.

I was kinda confused too lol. Guess they're linears? They definitely felt tactile to me but I guess I'm dumb lol.

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