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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: quad_h on Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:13:38
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Good morning, friends!
Have you been doing well?
I have recently been looking for a company to realize the design of Goldworms.
Among them, we held consultations with JTK and decided to join JTK.
Group buy Info
(https://i.imgur.com/QuqB82c.jpg)
SYMBOLICS 3600
https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=230 (https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=230)
He was inspired by SYMBOLICS 3600 and prepared to use the high-quality colors of the past to fit the layout used in today's time.
(https://i.imgur.com/T4Zb7nq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/pMdKU47.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rhdwskp.png)
Color?
The color is custom.
Color chip will work with JTK.
Spec ?
High quality doubleshot ABS plastic
Cherry profile and 1.5mm thick
(https://i.imgur.com/t764tlV.png)
- Example image
Packaging: PC sorting trays include
The composition is only one base kit.
When?
01.2020
Where?
Europe, the U.S., and Asia are in talks and Korea will be in charge of the Let's get it.
Renders
made by Goldworms, the master of hidden rendering.
(https://i.imgur.com/HZYWG9d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gztqvz5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VEpFeBM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bd2BxiC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wUiq1Dy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/4eStRyF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/96J4cnN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/L6NMrnC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LknAEhj.png)
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Very cool. I'm interested. How would it look with the alpha legend color on the first 3 mod rows to better match the original set though?
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I'll definitely be following this set's development, I love the colour choice. Is a 40% & spacebar kit a possibility beyond the lovely base kit?
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
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Much to our regret, no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first. I will prepare for the next step.
Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
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Very cool. I'm interested. How would it look with the alpha legend color on the first 3 mod rows to better match the original set though?
I'll try to prepare the rendering again for that version.
But we prefer our planned design.
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
Good to know, appreciate the reply. Excited to see how this set develops.
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.
For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.
Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.
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You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).
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You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).
Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.
For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.
Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.
JTK caps are doubleshot, so every key needs its own physical mold.
JTK has had legend problems in the past, and has been working to improve the quality of their legends.
Result: the same kits run again without modification.
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Result: the same kits run again without modification.
Weeeeell... if they can't be arsed to move the '@ keycap from R4 to R3 in their drafts...
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I love this look! Someone showed me this over on Keebtalk after I posted the GMK Ashes IC. I'm totally down to get the set! Light Mods with Dark Alphas is slowly becoming my favorite look!
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Yes. I like it.
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But I think we're at the peak of gray/neutral based sets. ASCII didn't sell as well as I thought it might. Maybe the JTK price will bring more people in?
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Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself, can't you search the proper photos in the wild?
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I definitely prefer the dark gray/light gray/white of the original colors.
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Yawn, there's a thousand off-white & grey/dark grey/black keysets out there already for sale, in IC or GB. I think the gold lettering is offering something different & is very eye-catching!
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I like the Quad_H key!
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.
For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.
Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.
JTK caps are doubleshot, so every key needs its own physical mold.
JTK has had legend problems in the past, and has been working to improve the quality of their legends.
Result: the same kits run again without modification.
Actually it is not true sir, we are remaking most of keys legends.
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
Depends on the manufacturer - I don't really understand what "JKT's improvement plan comes first" means, but some systems make kits not plausible.
For example in the case of Infinikey, they don't have child kits because the child kit MOQ is 300.
Would be interesting to know what JTK's reasoning is though.
To expain JTK's improvement plan sir:
Background:
From JTK CA profile verion 1 to JTK CA profile version 5(the latest version), we really did much improvments work on different keys. If you check version 1 to version 5 one by one, you can find out many improvements. But there are 2 main reasons why we can not completely solve all the problems:
1, We did not realize all all the problems. We always did some improments afther some customers or other one told us. But not all.
2, We could not do all the modification wihile producing.
Result:
After we finish 5 version JTK process we find out that it is too passive to do improvements afther someone tell us. So we make a big desiion:
We will remake most JTK key legends (except alps and some basic keys). There will be more than 90+ keys remaking in this plan.
We will update those legends later on our website.
We hope this plan can bring new understanding of JTK to our customers
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liking the colors scheme! hope it makes it to gb
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You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).
Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly
You mean ISO layout?
I'd appreciate it if you could give me more details.
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Yes. I like it.
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But I think we're at the peak of gray/neutral based sets. ASCII didn't sell as well as I thought it might. Maybe the JTK price will bring more people in?
I'm sorry I didn't know if there was a similar GMK.
However, I think there is an advantage that is definitely different in color and rich in composition and cheaper than GMK.
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Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself, can't you search the proper photos in the wild?
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Thank you for your good comments.
But I had no idea it was a tanning color.
Thank you for the good information.
But I like both the new and original colors that were inspired.
I think I'll have to make a difficult decision
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Much to our regret,
no additional KIT can be prepared this time because JKT's improvement plan comes first.
I will prepare for the next step.
This is such a shame. I'd love to give a JTK set a go, but the lack of any 40%/ortho kits is so disappointing. I don't really understand what the problem is...
JTK doesn't have a mold ready to make the kit you want.
The main concern is that there are fewer users who actually need the kit than the increased cost by adding the kit.
We are still discussing it with JTK, but it may be something to be considered later.
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You may want to check the support for English (UK) - you have a key in the wrong row (a mistake JTK has made in the past, too).
Seems to be a consistent mistake in JTK sets, oddly
You mean ISO layout?
I'd appreciate it if you could give me more details.
The '@ key belongs on the same row as #~, rather than with \|. No row numbers are marked but I believe this needs to be R3 when it is currently R4.
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Take my money, seriously. Why not KAT?
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Any interest in more neutral grays? This is what I was going for with GMK-200 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99971.0).
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Couldn't make it more vintage!
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I was just thinking about trying to put go through my keycap collection to mimic this colorway!
Colors look great! I'd be all over this if it was SA profile =)
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Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself, can't you search the proper photos in the wild?
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Totally agree with that.
This one looks more like a color like coffee.
I feel that jtk used the colors they have produced before, which can reduce the cost and selling price. I think it is great, but first of all, designer should respect the original color. These two have basically no similarity.
In addition, the keycaps use hsa height might be better.
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I was just thinking about trying to put go through my keycap collection to mimic this colorway!
Colors look great! I'd be all over this if it was SA profile =)
The guy who did SA Symbiosis R2 is already doing this in SA profile: https://jiekb.com/2019/10/lisp-machine-keyset-episode-2-sa-hacker/
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Really interested love the colors.
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Is there any update on when a GB will be happening?
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I also would love this set. Any update on if it is happening?
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Heh...yet another one due-to-UV hard yellowing color copy adept. That is NOT symoblics colors.
If you can't find 3600 to see it by yourself, can't you search the proper photos in the wild?
(Attachment Link)
Thank you for your good comments.
But I had no idea it was a tanning color.
Thank you for the good information.
But I like both the new and original colors that were inspired.
I think I'll have to make a difficult decision
+1 for non-yellowed legends.
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I also would love this set. Any update on if it is happening?
not currently in the JTK schedule but i am not privy to communications between OP and JTK so could be inaccurate