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Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 16 June 2010, 18:43:23
Bloody game developers.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18609_more-proof-video-game-industry-out-ideas-e3-2010.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=blog+wong061610
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 16 June 2010, 19:37:06
Of course all the new games suck! Why do you think I'm sticking with MS-DOS?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Wed, 16 June 2010, 20:16:23
PC gaming is OK for me as I don't need a new game every 3 months. I just use alot of Mods to change the games that I have.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: phillip on Wed, 16 June 2010, 20:19:23
i still have plenty of games for my consoles and pc that i have yet to play once, not too worried about all this retarded motion ****.  i still play cs fairly often, and that's like 10 years old :/
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Infinite north on Wed, 16 June 2010, 20:35:13
(http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages/article/2/8/2/25282.gif?v=1)

Needs more cow bell.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on Wed, 16 June 2010, 20:51:53
Qix.
That is all. You need nothing else.

The industry as I know it is dead, nothing but soulless 16 year olds driven by hype. Most things today are far too logical, far too realistic and far too shallow.
These are mine. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2004670&id=1534433814&l=6a2567a0bb
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Wed, 16 June 2010, 21:21:31
He looks like he's going through electric-shock therapy.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Wed, 16 June 2010, 21:22:05
All new games are becoming borderline generic. Metro 2033, for example. Nothing separates it from a $3 bargain bin FPS except its brilliant atmosphere. I still trust Valve though, but maybe I'm biased because I've been fiending Counter-Strike for around 9 years.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 16 June 2010, 22:10:21
Battlefront II on XBox FTW.  I still don't play any other games.  In fact, I try to find ways to make everything else in my life, including using my PC, more like playing BFII.  Sometimes during dinner I ask my wife if she'll use the hero if I pass it.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Mercen_505 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 11:24:38
Quote
Battlefront II on XBox FTW.

Republic engineer, reporting for duty!

I played that game on PC for about a year straight. Like crack, it was.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 15:49:09
Everyone's just waiting for project natale/Kinect,  and advancements in technology, and to see how successful or not they will be. No use starting a new game development that uses old fashioned keyboards and controllers, when you can actually be in the game.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:04:18
*****ing about how all the games look the same and the gaming industry's stale and doomed has been around since at least 1983- then the next NES, PS2, Doom, Grand Theft Auto, Myst, Halo, whatever, comes out.  Everyone has braingasms over how new, innovative and different it is from everything that came before it- then the next year, everyone's *****ing about how all the games look the same and the industry's stale.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:12:00
Quote from: Nonmouse;194048
*****ing about how all the games look the same and the gaming industry's stale and doomed has been around since at least 1983- then the next NES, PS2, Doom, Grand Theft Auto, Myst, Halo, whatever, comes out.  Everyone has braingasms over how new, innovative and different it is from everything that came before it- then the next year, everyone's *****ing about how all the games look the same and the industry's stale.

Naw, there was a golden era of video games from about 5-10 years ago, where a new amazing title would come out just about every week, now it's just dropped off to about 4 or 5 notible releases a year.  PC gaming has take a total nose dive because of torrents and xbox.  The only game right now that has any draw to me on the pc is fallout, which is pretty sad, I used to play like 3 or 4 new games every month at least.

For instance, there hasn't been a good racing game since need for speed carbon/undercover, or even prior to that, like what, 2 or 3 years ago?

I guess a new need for speed will come out later this year:

http://hotpursuit.needforspeed.com/ (http://hotpursuit.needforspeed.com/)

But who knows if it'll be any good or not since the NFS franchise has been tossed around to different owners all over the game industry I guess.

Really it's like, all the established franchises are being tossed around, so noone really has a clear vision of them anymore.  Fallout, same thing, and there simply aren't any new original interesting games coming out at all the last few years.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:28:31
Dude, SRSLY- since at least 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983).  Same laments, time after time.  It'll get better, really.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:41:41
No way, this is totally different.  Look at Gamestop's top selling list.  Fricken Rollercoaster Tycoon, Family Feud, and a Civilization and Final fantasy collection are their top selling games. lol  There are preorders for 3 games also that are coming out over the next year or two, and that's it. PC gaming is just totally dead right now.

http://www.gamestop.com/lpcgames (http://www.gamestop.com/lpcgames)

Oh I forgot, Euro Truck simulator. roflol
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:51:57
Quote from: chimera15;194051
For instance, there hasn't been a good racing game since need for speed carbon


Rofl.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 17 June 2010, 18:52:38
*Makes note to re-visit thread in a year or two.*
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 17 June 2010, 19:08:33
Quote from: Mercen_505;194003
Republic engineer, reporting for duty!

I played that game on PC for about a year straight. Like crack, it was.


Hey, can you repair the health and ammo droids?  Then go take #4 and I'll go take #2!


Quote from: chimera15
For instance, there hasn't been a good racing game since need for speed carbon


Did you mean to say Project Gotham Racing 2?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 19:12:27
Quote from: Oqsy;194064
Hey, can you repair the health and ammo droids?  Then go take #4 and I'll go take #2!




Did you mean to say Project Gotham Racing 2?


No, pgr I think is xbox platform mainly isn't it? And track only? No freedrive?

There were a couple nfs's after carbon too, but they sucked cause they had no free drive either.

Carbon was a full racing nice game with a reasonably good soundtrack:

Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 19:51:42
In the US, most Gamestops are useless to PC gamers. Its all about the consoles.
I don't play consoles myself although most of you younger guys probably grew up with them.
For racing...I was more into GT Legends or Grand Prix 4.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 17 June 2010, 21:21:39
Who goes to stores when they can use Steam?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 22:21:49
Gamestop offers direct download to pc now as well, don't have to go to a physical location.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 22:52:35
There's always Japanese games. lol

http://www.illusion.jp/
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 17 June 2010, 23:37:32
Quote from: chimera15;194051
Naw, there was a golden era of video games from about 5-10 years ago, where a new amazing title would come out just about every week, now it's just dropped off to about 4 or 5 notible releases a year.  PC gaming has take a total nose dive because of torrents and xbox.  The only game right now that has any draw to me on the pc is fallout, which is pretty sad, I used to play like 3 or 4 new games every month at least.

For instance, there hasn't been a good racing game since need for speed carbon/undercover, or even prior to that, like what, 2 or 3 years ago?

I guess a new need for speed will come out later this year:

http://hotpursuit.needforspeed.com/ (http://hotpursuit.needforspeed.com/)

But who knows if it'll be any good or not since the NFS franchise has been tossed around to different owners all over the game industry I guess.

Really it's like, all the established franchises are being tossed around, so noone really has a clear vision of them anymore.  Fallout, same thing, and there simply aren't any new original interesting games coming out at all the last few years.


The best years for PC games, in my opinion, was 1993 to 2003.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Thu, 17 June 2010, 23:43:59
Quote from: EverythingIBM;194130
The best years for PC games, in my opinion, was 1993 to 2003.


Yeah I'd agree.  I hope Natal/kinect will change some of that, since I guess it will work with pcs too? I might actually loose some weight. lol

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=471659 (http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=471659)
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 18 June 2010, 00:13:26
Quote from: chimera15;194132
Yeah I'd agree.  I hope Natal/kinect will change some of that, since I guess it will work with pcs too? I might actually loose some weight. lol

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=471659 (http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=471659)


Uh oh, I need to GAIN weight.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 04:44:15
Games industry is dying for the same reason the music industry is. Too many overpaid companies dictating that the same boring **** is dumped on the market. Needs to be put out of its misery really.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: noctua on Fri, 18 June 2010, 05:15:43
Protection mechanism, Steam & Co. all these superior acquisitions,
i get increasingly angry about being patronized by the busines
graduated greenhorns. Declining business, that serves them right!

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11226&d=1276858941)
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 18 June 2010, 05:58:53
Quote from: chimera15;194051
...there simply aren't any new original interesting games coming out at all the last few years.
The last original and interesting one I played was Portal, some others were very interesting and fun, but not really original (btw, check the videos of Portal 2, awesome new ideas). The problem is probably that most things one could think up were already done in some way, or they are technological not doable (yet), or they wont attract enough customers... So they try to stay on the safe side and copy stuff that worked. Well, good thing is that some of this "copys" are much better than the original or other copys before! :)
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 18 June 2010, 15:59:32
Why don't you guys play real games that involve actually getting off your butt and not looking at a screen?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 18 June 2010, 16:25:41
Like... Strip-Poker?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 17:22:28
Quote from: microsoft windows;194416
Why don't you guys play real games that involve actually getting off your butt and not looking at a screen?

Uh, cause sitting on my but and looking at a screen is easier.  When a girl rejects me in a dating sim, I know I can always download a 100% save file. roflol
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 20:06:01
Still a few games coming for the PC...
Rage
Brink
the next Fallout 3
the next Oblivion
another Stalker Series
Mafia II
Dead Rising 2
Max Payne 2  
Some may indeed come later for the PC as the consoles will get them first and there are others that I can't remember.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Fri, 18 June 2010, 20:23:24
The next "Fallout 3"? How about the next Fallout? Same with Oblivion. The next Elder Scrolls works better.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 20:29:32
Fallout: New Vegas...........         The Elder Scrolls V
you guys are picky...
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Fri, 18 June 2010, 20:42:12
Quote from: audioave10;194501
Still a few games coming for the PC...
Rage
Brink
the next Fallout 3
the next Oblivion
another Stalker Series
Mafia II
Dead Rising 2
Max Payne 2  
Some may indeed come later for the PC as the consoles will get them first and there are others that I can't remember.


The  MechWarrior reboot.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Fri, 18 June 2010, 20:43:15
And let's not forget Duke Nukem Forever!
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 21:01:52
Quote from: Nonmouse;194512
The  MechWarrior reboot.



New Mechwarrior? Still a Microsoft/xbox game though?


Edit:  Ahh interesting, looks like they got it away from Microsoft finally, awesome.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html)

All the links are dead on that, doesn't bode well, do you have another link to more info?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Fri, 18 June 2010, 21:48:47
Piranha Games (http://www.piranha-games.com/MechWarrior.html).
Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5BoRwGiFE).
Legal kerfluffle (http://www.mechadamashii.com/news/mechwarrior-reboot-in-licensing-blunder/).
Gamespy (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/mechwarrior-4-mercenaries/1087354p1.html) on MW4 freebie.
Freebie (http://www.mektek.net/projects/mw4/) MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries.

Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Fri, 18 June 2010, 23:16:04
Cool, I'm going to try that thanks.... Wasn't there another mechwarrior mercenaries?  Maybe I got this one confused by that one, which is why I missed it?
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Fri, 18 June 2010, 23:32:29
BTW, Starcraft 2 won't do any saving without LAN play.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Fri, 18 June 2010, 23:46:14
Yeah, I think MechWarrior 2 had a Mercenaries expansion, too.  MW4 Mercs is a pretty good, stand-alone game.  I don't like the linearity of the game play, but really, they pretty much have to do it that way tell the story.  And you can always go play sandbox.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 19 June 2010, 01:19:44
Quote from: microsoft windows;194416
Why don't you guys play real games that involve actually getting off your butt and not looking at a screen?

WHAT?!?!? YOU DARE DEFY THE GREAT POWER OF MS-DOS GAMING? And I thought you were cool...

Physical activities aren't nearly as fun as computer games. And since I have to do so much running to get back and forth from school, after getting all that exercise (when I don't even NEED it, frick), relaxing at my computer is just a nice way to spend some free hours. Ahhhh... some nice juice, a little gaming, typing on my Model M... yeah that's the life.

Quote from: chimera15;194430
Uh, cause sitting on my but and looking at a screen is easier.  When a girl rejects me in a dating sim, I know I can always download a 100% save file. roflol

Girls... I'm probably one of the more rare individuals that tries to avoid them lol. Well, it's just I don't like people telling me things like "you have my babies" (yeah some girl told me that; what kind of thing is that to say to someone??!?!?!? Kind of rude), or, when they get all giggly and gushy. What's there to giggle at? My jokes aren't even all that great.

One time, some girl came up to me and said "wow it's pretty cold out? *giggle*", and I just said "yeaaahhhh" and stepped back and rolled my eyes. HA! That was great. You should have seen her face.
{Okay okay, I'm usually not that mean, but come on, I just wanted to get home, not go dating}

I don't know, maybe if I looked like some disheveled nerd it would better suit my personality. :nerd:
I guess I'll have to PM ripster and ask him how he does it.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 01:36:55
Well, I would have agreed with you certainly in the past, and still 51% probably do.  I'm almost 40, and never had a girlfriend, and my life is generally pretty crappy, so a lot of me kind of regrets past decisions at this point and wonders what it might actually be like to get a life. lol


I've been watching a lot of Japanese dramas lately, and one of them, sort of made the case that it's selfish not to want to get married and have kids, and devote your life to hobbies/career.  Another, a true story, Densha otoko is about an otaku that saves a woman on a train and they eventually get married, and some of the things he said in that movie sort of hit home.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 19 June 2010, 02:09:47
Quote from: chimera15;194578
Well, I would have agreed with you certainly in the past, and still 51% probably do.  I'm almost 40, and never had a girlfriend, and my life is generally pretty crappy, so a lot of me kind of regrets past decisions at this point and wonders what it might actually be like to get a life. lol

I've been watching a lot of Japanese dramas lately, and one of them, sort of made the case that it's selfish not to want to get married and have kids, and devote your life to hobbies/career.  Another, a true story, Densha otoko is about an otaku that saves a woman on a train and they eventually get married, and some of the things he said in that movie sort of hit home.

Well, you know, it's actually better to get married when you're 40 -- perfect age -- rather than immaturity when young (well I hope people get maturity at that age). Most of the young teens in my generation now are all drooling over one another because of physical attraction, rather than loving someone with YOUR MIND. So, when they get older, conflicts arise because they're not mentally compatible. Haha.

So if anything, you avoided a divorce, depression, and finanical issues. Plus you've had more time to acquire some cool computer skillz. And it's never too late to get married or whatever.

EDIT: and yeah, I never had a girlfriend so far either. Oh wait I do! My IBMs! Heh, quality over quantity.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 19 June 2010, 04:05:17
Quote from: chimera15;194578
I'm almost 40, and never had a girlfriend, and my life is generally pretty crappy, so a lot of me kind of regrets past decisions at this point and wonders what it might actually be like to get a life.

It's not too late...

- Learn how to be nice (Also means -> Learn to lie... "Wow, this new hair color looks good on you" :P)
- Lower your expectations (You don't look like Brat Pit? -> Don't expect to fish some top-model)
- If you are not good in social situations, try one of this online single hook-up something sites

In the end, all this hook-up and relationship stuff is nothing more than a game,
you just have to learn the rules and train a bit! :)
Title: The Typing of the Dead
Post by: GenEric35 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 06:05:15
Dragon Age Origins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceuun47suFs&feature=related): For once a game that doesn't recycle tolkien lore. Everthing is defined from scratch and it all ties in together.

Quake Live (http://www.quakelive.com): I like what they did with this classic, the quake 'spirit' is there, it's a great example that other classics could follow.

The Typing of the Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNfQ_B6_xy8): Every operating system should have this one built-in :)
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 June 2010, 06:35:54
Dude... as of the top of this page, this thread just took a major 90 degree turn into "don't go there" land.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: chimera15 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 08:34:14
Quote from: hyperlinked;194634
Dude... as of the top of this page, this thread just took a major 90 degree turn into "don't go there" land.

A gaming thread was bound to go there since I and I imagine a lot of hard core gamers pretty much sacrificed their lives to be a gamers. lol
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: kishy on Sat, 19 June 2010, 11:11:10
Whoever mentioned Mafia II...

Mafia was a great game. I'd go so far as to say it was GTA IV several years early. Pretty well done story, nice map, attention to detail was nice. Mafia II will hopefully be great as well.

I almost certainly won't be able to run it though.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 12:11:23
So, there was I thinking I was the weirdo for only having gone out with two girls in my 20 years...
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 June 2010, 12:40:15
Quote from: ch_123;194699
So, there was I thinking I was the weirdo for only having gone out with two girls in my 20 years...


I think this is one of those areas that most everyone has exaggerated or otherwise skewed assumptions of what "normal" is. There's always that one guy who lost count at 20 by the time he was 20 that influences your expectations of everyone else's life.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 12:59:14
Admittedly I was exaggerating for comic effect, but yeah, social norms don't allow for people with taste :p
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: gr1m on Sat, 19 June 2010, 13:04:01
Quote from: ch_123;194716
Admittedly I was exaggerating for comic effect


Yeah, right.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 19 June 2010, 13:29:43
Yes. Secretly I'm crying inside.

...
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 24 June 2010, 22:55:58
I guess I must be the anti-nerd in the thread- I've almost always had a (or more) girlfriend(s), and since I was nineteen or twenty the ratio of girls I've... enjoyed : my age has been greater than 1. The ratio went kinda berserk when I was bartending; occupational hazard of the job.  However, it really is possible to love your technonerd obsessions and the fair sex.

Just sayin'...
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: Nonmouse on Fri, 25 June 2010, 00:14:35
Quote from: ripster;196102
Pics or it didn't happen.


Yup, you're right. :rolleyes:

There, there..

Pitypats
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 25 June 2010, 17:45:34
No it isn't. I'm pretty successful.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: kishy on Fri, 25 June 2010, 17:58:10
Quote from: microsoft windows;196414
No it isn't. I'm pretty successful.


Don't mind me, just quoting your admission of that fact should it be needed later on.
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: audioave10 on Fri, 25 June 2010, 22:57:13
Careful ripster...you might do it again!
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 26 June 2010, 05:39:48
Quote from: kishy;196422
Don't mind me, just quoting your admission of that fact should it be needed later on.


This reminds me of a situation where a joke was made by somone, and one of my friends didn't get it. They continued to act completely clueless until eventually, someone explained it to them, and quipped afterwards "this is usually the point where you turn around and say that you were just trolling us".
Title: State of Gaming
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 26 June 2010, 13:19:37
Quote from: ripster;196424
True, true.

All I said in response to a Hitler post was "nice font" and everybody goes off to the races.


Well that was the Germans... better be careful not to upset the Dutch y'know. They have some pretty hard keyboards.