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Title: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:48:23
--->Group Buy Live<--- (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107547.0)


(https://i.imgur.com/y7VvaSP.jpg)

Hey! Welcome to the GMK PONO Interest Check

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Before attempting an IC, I reached out to both Olivia and Nat (Minterly) to see if this was okay and clear the colors.


Pono is a combination of Pink and Mono, which coincidentally is also this mischievous kitteh's name. Pono is grey kitteh with a pink button nose


Kits (Getting rendered and updated)

Colors - Dark Grey and Pink (N9 - 3C)
Google image - No color correction.
(https://i.imgur.com/h4ojqg4.jpg)

Deskmat - Updated pattern as suggested (minor update - not final but pretty much there).
(https://i.imgur.com/Dw1SgJ8.jpg)


Thanks to Abec13 for his work and time, and Lightning for invaluable feedback!



Meow is this something you might be interested in?

Interest Check Form (http://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd1XkcAQNDar67mZNONxi4XR--QBBO6qnv074nXV0972TKZwA/viewform)

Quick announcement before revealing the final kitting, pricing, mats and collab.

Beyond stoked and honored to announce the following vendors will be on board for GMK Pono

US - Dixie
CA - Deskhero
EU - MKB.eu
AU - Daily Clack
Asia - iLumKB
China - zFrontier

The set will be running July 17th to August 14th

More updates very very soon, hope you're as excited as I am :D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:50:50
Pretty cute set. Will keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: keuhdall on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:53:06
I guess I have a dirty mind because I didn't quite read 'Pono' at first sight...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Pennywise359 on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:53:40
Ohh another olivia clone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: falzm on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:54:16
Cute, I might go for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Tue, 21 January 2020, 07:57:28
Im in for novelties, love them!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: heyjaykay on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:10:14
This looks amazing! Any thoughts on 40/ortho coverage?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: chriszhu on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:15:08
<3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: biothermal on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:25:49
Although it certainly does look quite a bit like Olivia++ w/ dark alphas, that "Purr" keycap is amazing, and I want it in my life. If the molds are made, I can imagine many uses for that cap, in many color combinations.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: krey on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:26:34
Meow.

Nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: fer.real on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:32:20
I could have sworn there was an 'r' in the title when I clicked the link.  I would have bought that keyset.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: antx1701 on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:47:54
I could have sworn there was an 'r' in the title when I clicked the link.  I would have bought that keyset.
You're thinking of GMK White on Pink.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: VXQN on Tue, 21 January 2020, 09:34:32
I like this a lot! I almost went in for Olivia Dark but the pink was a bit too...fleshy for my taste — This looks a lot nicer. I have however just looked at pictures of GMK's colour chips and pink 3C looks a fair bit less red than how it appears in the renders, which is putting me off slightly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Khers on Tue, 21 January 2020, 10:29:13
The renders of the set on keyboards and kit-design show different icon mods with one being og the other dixie-mods. Which ones will you go for? While I really like the colours of this, N9 and 3C are GMK's best, dixie-mods would be an absolute deal-breaker for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 21 January 2020, 10:37:46
I like the color scheme. I'd personally love to have a non-novelty accent esc/enter/arrows in the base kit, but that may not be realistic in terms of pricing etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 21 January 2020, 10:51:32
The renders of the set on keyboards and kit-design show different icon mods with one being og the other dixie-mods. Which ones will you go for? While I really like the colours of this, N9 and 3C are GMK's best, dixie-mods would be an absolute deal-breaker for me.

Same. OG icon mods are amazing, Dixie mods won't be on my boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 21 January 2020, 12:38:41
This looks amazing! Any thoughts on 40/ortho coverage?

Thank you! There is some basic 40's compat in the base kit at the moment. Will see how things develop otherwise.

I like this a lot! I almost went in for Olivia Dark but the pink was a bit too...fleshy for my taste — This looks a lot nicer. I have however just looked at pictures of GMK's colour chips and pink 3C looks a fair bit less red than how it appears in the renders, which is putting me off slightly.

Thank you! Please keep in mind many factors affect what you are personally seeing on your own screen, after googling an image. If there are egregious differences, will be sure to try and fix. Otherwise, it's a stock color, so there is no matching process or anything, if you've seen 3C in person, that is what you'll get.

The renders of the set on keyboards and kit-design show different icon mods with one being og the other dixie-mods. Which ones will you go for? While I really like the colours of this, N9 and 3C are GMK's best, dixie-mods would be an absolute deal-breaker for me.

OG for now.

I like the color scheme. I'd personally love to have a non-novelty accent esc/enter/arrows in the base kit, but that may not be realistic in terms of pricing etc.

I did not really want to add accents in the base, as there is a highlight kit. We will see how things develop though.




Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: titanium on Tue, 21 January 2020, 13:54:38
I need that caps lock and enter novelty keys in my life.
Please include a fulltouch paw print caps lock though!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 21 January 2020, 14:19:02
You can see 3C in a variety of lights next to -7- other gmk colors as its F5-F8 on oblotzky's gmk handarbeit TKL
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 21 January 2020, 14:51:40
This looks great!!! Can never get enough cats in stuff.
One qualm I have is kinda how awkward the base kit is with the 40% keys. It feels like there isn't quite enough in there to satiate all the different 40s layouts.
Also requesting ortho support please!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: MdotMaxson on Tue, 21 January 2020, 16:00:11
I heard even if Olivia says it’s ok. She’ll still bash you on YouTube and complain like she didn’t
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Smoff on Tue, 21 January 2020, 16:39:18
Definitely keeping an eye on this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Emir on Tue, 21 January 2020, 17:08:31
OG Icon mods and I am in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Bruek on Wed, 22 January 2020, 00:33:38
this is so adorable! i'm in no question
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Wed, 22 January 2020, 00:52:12
I need that caps lock and enter novelty keys in my life.
Please include a fulltouch paw print caps lock though!

A reasonable request, can do!

This looks great!!! Can never get enough cats in stuff.
One qualm I have is kinda how awkward the base kit is with the 40% keys. It feels like there isn't quite enough in there to satiate all the different 40s layouts.
Also requesting ortho support please!  :D

Thank you! I had a 40's / ortho kit separate, but felt like I was going overboard with kits. My issue with making it a separate kit is having vendors buy out to moq, and then potentially sitting on stock that doesn't sell too well, which is why I put some basic 40's support in the base, (Although I understand your point about it not covering everything), while something like a Planck can be covered, but you'd have to buy a few kits. Will keep it in mind for sure and see how things develop.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: rikercd on Wed, 22 January 2020, 11:16:29
I would 100% but a kit in this style.   
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 22 January 2020, 12:37:24

I like the color scheme. I'd personally love to have a non-novelty accent esc/enter/arrows in the base kit, but that may not be realistic in terms of pricing etc.

I did not really want to add accents in the base, as there is a highlight kit. We will see how things develop though.

Got it, thanks - just that I didn't see any of those accents (arrows, enter, esc) in the highlights kit - or am I missing something obvious...?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:11:43

I like the color scheme. I'd personally love to have a non-novelty accent esc/enter/arrows in the base kit, but that may not be realistic in terms of pricing etc.

I did not really want to add accents in the base, as there is a highlight kit. We will see how things develop though.

Got it, thanks - just that I didn't see any of those accents (arrows, enter, esc) in the highlights kit - or am I missing something obvious...?

Probably more my fault for not explaining a little better, than you missing something :). I feel like the highlight kit acts as the accents, and not sure I'd like to add keys like esc, enter and arrows, for now, but that I'm also not completely against the idea, pending further development with the kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: 1391401 on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:15:24
Curious - why does someone else's input matter for an IC concept?  I assume you're choosing colors that GMK can produce?  Can someone "own" the rights to a black and pink keyboard?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:50:28
Curious - why does someone else's input matter for an IC concept?  I assume you're choosing colors that GMK can produce?  Can someone "own" the rights to a black and pink keyboard?

I CLAIM THEM! Boom, pay me money!

Joking aside, i think it's more of a courtesy thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:57:44
Curious - why does someone else's input matter for an IC concept?  I assume you're choosing colors that GMK can produce?  Can someone "own" the rights to a black and pink keyboard?

I CLAIM THEM! Boom, pay me money!

Joking aside, i think it's more of a courtesy thing.

Right. We see a lot of these courtesy calls in the MK communities lately. While not exactly the same even combinations of some MX switch's stem colors, springs and their housings have been the object of huge controversies, while MX switch patent is expired already; then, there are not legal rights to claim anymore, but our community is prone to endorse those doubtful rights to vendors that are very vocal.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 22 January 2020, 14:01:35
Curious - why does someone else's input matter for an IC concept?  I assume you're choosing colors that GMK can produce?  Can someone "own" the rights to a black and pink keyboard?

I CLAIM THEM! Boom, pay me money!

Joking aside, i think it's more of a courtesy thing.

Right. We see a lot of these courtesy calls in the MK communities lately. While not exactly the same even combinations of some MX switch's stem colors, springs and their housings have been the object of huge controversies, while MX switch patent is expired already; then, there are not legal rights to claim anymore, but our community is prone to endorse those doubtful rights to vendors that are very vocal.

Exactly. Not extending the olive branch and at least making the effort might see your product being blackballed by the community. As well as continuing after the originator said no. But it's not like anyone is going to court.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: joedinkle on Thu, 23 January 2020, 04:32:33
Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: stevenT on Thu, 23 January 2020, 05:28:59
Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:07:36
Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Olivia++? I hope so. I'm mad I missed the GB. Darks would look amazing on a white board. I'll otherwise be using these, and would love to at least see what a light alpha might look like.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: stevenT on Thu, 23 January 2020, 08:41:12

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Olivia++? I hope so. I'm mad I missed the GB. Darks would look amazing on a white board. I'll otherwise be using these, and would love to at least see what a light alpha might look like.
At the end of Olivia++ GB, vendors purchased more than 1000 base kits or so people believe, you can check the graph in gb thread.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Thu, 23 January 2020, 10:21:16
Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

Working some updates.

Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Olivia++? I hope so. I'm mad I missed the GB. Darks would look amazing on a white board. I'll otherwise be using these, and would love to at least see what a light alpha might look like.

N9 is dark grey. There is no black in this set. No white alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 12:38:53


N9 is dark grey. There is no black in this set. No white alphas.

Yeah. Def grey. And I never said it had to be white!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: KVogh on Thu, 23 January 2020, 14:38:21
I'd definitely like to get one  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: joedinkle on Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:19:00
Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

Working some updates.

Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Having missed out on Olivia, I'm really interested in this.  40's/ortho coverage would be great.

don't worry, vendors have already stocked a bunch of them enough for everyone

About PONO, can you offer a different color for alpha, GMK only makes ABS and they will eventually shine, black background is not loved as much as light alpha, or so I think.

Olivia++? I hope so. I'm mad I missed the GB. Darks would look amazing on a white board. I'll otherwise be using these, and would love to at least see what a light alpha might look like.

N9 is dark grey. There is no black in this set. No white alphas.

Not implying it's a copy.  It's just giving me those vibes.  I'm interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:12:46
I'd be down, would look great on some of my boards and the novelties are  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: stupac on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:19:19
Yes. Yes. Please. I need this right Meow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Dovan1405 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 01:59:26
beri naise. les go
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Zurg Eon on Sat, 25 January 2020, 16:53:51
You have my attention.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: itsmewiththeface on Sat, 25 January 2020, 17:34:22
Looks gr8 m8. I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: kchan88 on Sat, 25 January 2020, 17:37:27
I'm already in love. Need this in my life. Love cats.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sat, 25 January 2020, 19:26:48
any kitteh's pics? (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/embarrassed.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 25 January 2020, 21:50:48
this is real nice, stock color sets are always banging
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: d00deitsnik on Sun, 26 January 2020, 05:49:48
I like this theme. It's so neat. Would it be odd to add a "Nyaa" or "Nyan" key or something along those lines in the novelties? Or is that too weeb? >_<
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Sun, 26 January 2020, 23:47:23
I like this theme. It's so neat. Would it be odd to add a "Nyaa" or "Nyan" key or something along those lines in the novelties? Or is that too weeb? >_<

Doesn't really match the theme, other than cat.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: d00deitsnik on Mon, 27 January 2020, 02:54:35
I like this theme. It's so neat. Would it be odd to add a "Nyaa" or "Nyan" key or something along those lines in the novelties? Or is that too weeb? >_<

Doesn't really match the theme, other than cat.

That makes sense. I figured I'd ask since the worst thing that would happen is you saying no. I appreciate the explanation. (:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 27 January 2020, 03:15:46
That makes sense. I figured I'd ask since the worst thing that would happen is you saying no. I appreciate the explanation. (:

For sure! I thought about adding a couple more words to text novelties, like Neko, or something along the lines of what you were thinking, but didn't really feel like it was a good fit to the rest of the stuff, or would have had to expand a little more to make it fit, like adding subs, and that didn't feel right either. Rather leave the set clean, easy, and more generally relatable to cats, their memes, and stuff they do.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: nickaster1 on Mon, 27 January 2020, 06:34:25
Color me interested. I was imagining a high class vibe with this colorway (red tinted pink on a black-ish background). Would like to see more of the novelties
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:51:13
Would like to see more of the novelties

Will commission a few more renders as the project develops, no worries :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 27 January 2020, 13:51:52
Interest check form added to OP
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO
Post by: d00deitsnik on Mon, 27 January 2020, 14:41:33
That makes sense. I figured I'd ask since the worst thing that would happen is you saying no. I appreciate the explanation. (:

For sure! I thought about adding a couple more words to text novelties, like Neko, or something along the lines of what you were thinking, but didn't really feel like it was a good fit to the rest of the stuff, or would have had to expand a little more to make it fit, like adding subs, and that didn't feel right either. Rather leave the set clean, easy, and more generally relatable to cats, their memes, and stuff they do.

I'm glad you didn't add sublegends to this set. It feels a lot better, especially with the theme you're going for. Excited for this~
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: SeamansBeard on Mon, 27 January 2020, 17:14:25
Looks great! Would love International kit/NordDe kit. Especially since Olivia didn't have one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 28 January 2020, 02:32:11
Looks great! Would love International kit/NordDe kit. Especially since Olivia didn't have one.

Thanks! A little feedback about your comments. This set is not trying to do what Olivia++ might have, or have not done. Different sets, different colors more or less, (stock pink on stock grey here, to custom pink on custom black with Olivia++), different themes, different designers.

It would be lovely to include any and all compatibility for all users (as we are all mechanical keyboard enthusiasts here), this is not a likely scenario though with a manufacturer like GMK. Sets with huge hype and huge sales have trouble with international kits meeting MOQ. So while not against it, not confident that kit can happen here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 28 January 2020, 05:29:34
R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 28 January 2020, 07:21:40
R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%
+1 would rather this instead of like 7 toe beans

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: nickaster1 on Tue, 28 January 2020, 09:04:28
R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%
+1 would rather this instead of like 7 toe beans

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Aye
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 28 January 2020, 09:18:16
R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%

R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%
+1 would rather this instead of like 7 toe beans

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R1 blep, mlem, boop would be appreciated for folks without a 65%
+1 would rather this instead of like 7 toe beans

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Aye

If people aren't really into the paws, can remove some in favor of more / repeated text novelties. I thought they were kind of cute and added that little more to the theme. Thanks for the honest feedback. Will look into a small kit update. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 28 January 2020, 09:20:11


If people aren't really into the paws, can remove some in favor of more / repeated text novelties. I thought they were kind of cute and added that little more to the theme. Thanks for the honest feedback. Will look into a small kit update. :thumb:

Tbh it depends on whether it increases price significantly.

I'd buy the kit with a lot of paws and all the mlems and boops if the price difference isn't huge.

:thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 28 January 2020, 11:24:31
Eh. I liked the toes too. Haha. Could just be because I like cats and don't just Google cat memes XD.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: d00deitsnik on Tue, 28 January 2020, 13:18:21
I'm a fan of all the paws. Whenever this set drops, I might replace Pause with paws too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 17 February 2020, 02:52:08
Added a few beautiful renders on a custom Iron165.

Few more to come while some more work happens.

Please do fill out the IC form if you haven't. Cheers!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 17 February 2020, 22:29:10
The text novelties really make the set, and 4 in various profiles in the base could cover basic ortho support and also be fun for nonortho users too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 18 February 2020, 01:00:32
The text novelties really make the set, and 4 in various profiles in the base could cover basic ortho support and also be fun for nonortho users too.

Don't want to force novelties into the base, as some people are not into them, and rather keep base straight forward. 40's / ortho will either be in base or a kit, depending on how a few things go. Bit worried about base price with all those keys, as it would be nice for base to be affordable.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: hkiri on Tue, 18 February 2020, 04:48:23
Yep, the base kit is fine as it is. It even covers the most basic ISO support, so I'm in, I guess!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 18 February 2020, 16:51:30
The text novelties really make the set, and 4 in various profiles in the base could cover basic ortho support and also be fun for nonortho users too.

Don't want to force novelties into the base, as some people are not into them, and rather keep base straight forward. 40's / ortho will either be in base or a kit, depending on how a few things go. Bit worried about base price with all those keys, as it would be nice for base to be affordable.
Umbra and Pegaso(?) both had abbreviated ortho support in the base kit, by using "nonspecific" text legends like "data" and "out". Since those legends are meaningless anyway they're almost novelties, but might work for those that really hate cat memes.

Its certainly cheaper than Ortho/40s kits that have 2 tabs, 4 1u escapes and 4 1u enters, (but sometimes only one 1u backspace and 1u shift anyway:(), but doesn't do much for nonortho 40s.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: Han on Wed, 19 February 2020, 10:52:42
This looks really cute!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Thu, 19 March 2020, 03:43:48
GMK PONO on Abec13's new, super cute board IC - Adélie (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105185.msg2877531#msg2877531), with some logo assistance and backdrop work from me as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/JBVoqti.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/5oLQ7I4.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: KEYGEM on Fri, 20 March 2020, 16:02:59
Would love to see some Meow Desk Mats :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: sourmk on Sat, 21 March 2020, 14:58:21
Removed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 21 March 2020, 15:08:13
Couple ideas for deskmats here. Let me which you might prefer, and if you have any feedback, in the quick form please. Cheers!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CnDHO3r.jpg)


Deskmat Vote (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScgvJ7VTrNuS53YyJGxWIJwheXY_Wm4hzDyMtvvJnL5uQaxTA/viewform)


I really like both - they have appeal in unique ways and are super cute.

More importantly, I appreciate that the design on the deskmats is not dead-center. As normally the keyboard would probably block the main features if it's placed right in the middle.

+1 for these.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: kchan88 on Sat, 21 March 2020, 19:07:22
those are very pretty and I'd love to buy them lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: KEYGEM on Sun, 22 March 2020, 05:34:32
BOTH!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (IC Form Added)
Post by: abrokencondom on Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:56:47
I really like both - they have appeal in unique ways and are super cute.

More importantly, I appreciate that the design on the deskmats is not dead-center. As normally the keyboard would probably block the main features if it's placed right in the middle.

+1 for these.

I agree, I love that the main features are around the corners, which actually can be seen (which goes into my tangent gripe with keyboards that put all their design efforts on the brass bottom-side...)
I like both a lot, but I dunno how I feel about the top one's row of 4 paws... Not exactly sold on that execution, but I don't have any good alternative suggestions. Maybe just one giant paw? Or could steal a leaf out of previous patterned deskmats, where you have multiple grey silhouettes of a basic pattern, and a coloured one as accent. I dunno.

I already have a zomo black kitty paw keycap that would fit perfectly as an artisan accent with this set.

I was already thinking of getting GMK Blink black kit... (this is much more muted/calm). How much do I like cats vs kpop…

Missed opportunity doing this in KAT profile!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 23 March 2020, 06:36:03
Missed opportunity doing this in KAT profile!

Thank you for the feedback! Although I do very much like PBT, a little weary about it in general; concerning consistency (specially reverse sub), bowing and warping. We have also yet to see a KAT set delivered (other than BoW), and I have yet to try the profile. All anxiously waiting.

Something dark grey might be a little better suited to match imho, but a black and pink kitty paw will not look bad.

I've reached out to some artisan makers for collabs. Some seem to be interested. Will see if we can make anything happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 23 March 2020, 12:22:03
I went back to the drawing board, mixing elements from both. Think this one is nice. I realized a pink cat was a little off putting to me. This feels a little more subtle and suited. Think I'd like to concentrate on one for the moment, make sure it's up to par, before discussing the possibility of a second mat.

(https://i.imgur.com/u3VD6tF.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: kchan88 on Mon, 23 March 2020, 12:42:59
I like this one. It's definitely more subtle and less pink.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: KEYGEM on Mon, 23 March 2020, 14:04:07
Uhh that mixed one is pretty nice. Like the pink accents 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: Zurg Eon on Mon, 23 March 2020, 15:04:21
I went back to the drawing board, mixing elements from both. Think this one is nice. I realized a pink cat was a little off putting to me. This feels a little more subtle and suited. Think I'd like to concentrate on one for the moment, make sure it's up to par, before discussing the possibility of a second mat.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/u3VD6tF.jpg)

Looks nice! Have you considered having two and two columns of the foot prints facing the same direction so it will look more like the footprints of a cat walking up and down the deskmat? Dunno if it will look better, just a thought.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 23 March 2020, 15:30:28
Looks nice! Have you considered having two and two columns of the foot prints facing the same direction so it will look more like the footprints of a cat walking up and down the deskmat? Dunno if it will look better, just a thought.

Appreciate the suggestion, and quite like the idea, thanks! My thought was more along the lines of being able to use the mat with no top or bottom and being able to flip it. Giving it a little more direction as you are suggesting is a good idea. Will try to see what I can do about it, if it looks good, I don't mind. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: abrokencondom on Mon, 23 March 2020, 21:39:22
The desk mat looks a lot better! Good improvements. One of the cutest deskpads in a long time
I second the idea of two columns of unidirectional paws up one way, then down the other way for neighbouring two columns, to imitate footprints (whilst also meaning the pad can still be flappable).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: Hanabi on Thu, 09 April 2020, 05:26:05
Cutesy!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: wgsunrise on Wed, 29 April 2020, 01:35:43
Any update?
In all those GMK sets in IC stages I like this one the most.
Hopefully it will get into groupbuy ASAP.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: sourmk on Thu, 30 April 2020, 01:41:09
Any update?
In all those GMK sets in IC stages I like this one the most.
Hopefully it will get into groupbuy ASAP.

Nothing to report / announce at the moment. SoonTM :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: wgsunrise on Sun, 03 May 2020, 08:21:48
Any update?
In all those GMK sets in IC stages I like this one the most.
Hopefully it will get into groupbuy ASAP.

Nothing to report / announce at the moment. SoonTM :thumb:
Got it. Glad to hear you back anyway.
I am looking forward for any progress as long as it's still moving.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: sourmk on Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:37:25
First, thank you! There was some seriously overwhelming support and love showed here and in the IC form, you lot are awesome!

I do not have confirmed dates yet, but we have a little time before this happens.

Figured I would attempt to clean up and direct the kitting a little more, gather your feedback, and get a feel for how to progress.

Also some Q&A from the IC form feedback that's been gathered so far.

Alt Alpha kit subs / color. Numpad subs More accents?
Not my intention for this set. Keeping it clean and consistent. I feel there is enough accent options, they are accents, shouldn't really be that many.

International Kit?
Only really had like 5 - 6 requests in IC form, so unlikely for the moment (not final no though).

I don't like the novelties, the don't speak to me.
You are not forced into any novelties for this set. 

How about some more novelties like yarn, toys, collars, less words?
Not my intention for this set, I kind of feel that would take things in a cosplay kind of direction O.O

More words, less design.
Added a couple more options, as I like these, feel they would fit in where mod keys are supposed to be and not look out of place like icons do in comparison.

Few requests to separate numpad from base.
I don't think that's right direction, would like to keep it in, as it's kind of an all-inclusive kit atm. 

OG Icons

My mockups are not renders yet (view them with a grain of salt).

Colors - Dark Grey and Pink (N9 - 3C)
Google image - No color correction.
(https://i.imgur.com/h4ojqg4.jpg)

Kits getting updated and rendered


Deskmat - Updated pattern as suggested (minor update - not final but pretty much there).
(https://i.imgur.com/Dw1SgJ8.jpg)

I have a few more renders that haven't been posted, and will probably add a couple more to those before uploading.

Let me know your thoughts,

Cheers! <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:13:52
this is looking really great, both the kit and the deskmat!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: Zurg Eon on Mon, 04 May 2020, 14:55:24
Yep, gotta have this whole lot. Really happy the 7U bottom row accents are row 5. Novelties are great. "Chonk" :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Deskmats!)
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 04 May 2020, 21:40:50
Base - Has been cleaned up, while also adding better support for Ortho/40's.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yA9nr18.jpg)


Space  - removed pink space extra compat (concerned about price)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eznV22s.jpg)


Heya, really quick kit feedback:
– The R3 ISO key should be \| (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90706.msg2894820#msg2894820) to pair with R4 <>.
– 1.75u space isn't useful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104385.msg2899054#msg2899054) and as such can be removed.

Nice 40s/ortho support in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: wgsunrise on Tue, 05 May 2020, 04:48:57
To be honest I don't really like the idea to add caps for Ortho/40s support in the base kit.
I think those keys are going to stay untouched for a lot of buyers.
And I believe doing so will inevitably add up the price of base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:38:49
Heya, really quick kit feedback:
– The R3 ISO key should be \| (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90706.msg2894820#msg2894820) to pair with R4 <>.
– 1.75u space isn't useful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104385.msg2899054#msg2899054) and as such can be removed.

Nice 40s/ortho support in base.


Thank you, has been updated :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: sourmk on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:43:07
To be honest I don't really like the idea to add caps for Ortho/40s support in the base kit.
I think those keys are going to stay untouched for a lot of buyers.
And I believe doing so will inevitably add up the price of base kit.


I understand. I am currently not an Ortho or 40's user. Kits are not final at the moment, but I like the current structure. Will see how things go by quotation times, the set being stock colors though, should mean a beefy base kit like this, should rival or be very close to current base kit prices.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: Shikada on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:29:19
Filled the IC form.

Really cute set, I don't mind getting it even though I ordered Olivia++.

The only issue I have (which I wrote in the IC form) is that you don't offer an accented cat enter :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: KRY2SOON on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:15:42
Chonk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: peej on Sat, 09 May 2020, 15:04:17
Lovely stock colours and amazing that you can squeeze in those extra 4 1u caps for ortho users.

But I'd argue that most ortho users actually want a R2 1u Tab and a R3 1u Esc rather than the other way around.

You could even get away without a R2/3 Esc as the Read novelty would work fine for most ortho peeps instead.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: sourmk on Sun, 10 May 2020, 06:09:35
Lovely stock colours and amazing that you can squeeze in those extra 4 1u caps for ortho users.

But I'd argue that most ortho users actually want a R2 1u Tab and a R3 1u Esc rather than the other way around.

You could even get away without a R2/3 Esc as the Read novelty would work fine for most ortho peeps instead.

Thank you! Glad you like! R2 Esc used in 40's layouts as well. If you're happy enough to use Read, then it all works out. Lots of nice novelties to consider for your desired rows as well ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: kalayna on Thu, 04 June 2020, 08:15:15
As a bonafide crazy cat lady who needs zero more keysets, I am in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: VXQN on Thu, 04 June 2020, 08:17:40
Big fan of including (some) 40s keys in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: lovidore on Thu, 04 June 2020, 17:07:25
I'm a fan!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: honoka on Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:48:37
not sure if im first....
but international kit is love
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: Jojjelito on Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:29:19
Need this in my life. This is lovely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: arremkay on Sun, 07 June 2020, 14:34:08
Waiting for wasabi, ready for Dandy, and in for one of these too... You really got my number...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: ilikerustoo on Wed, 17 June 2020, 16:14:48
Great looking set! Should sell well and stock colours should be cheap on top of that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Kit Discussion)
Post by: quinnx on Wed, 17 June 2020, 22:12:38
Yes, this will be on my watch list. purrfect color, a toned down olivia I may say.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: AvoidingYou on Thu, 18 June 2020, 19:12:15
rama cap? big paw print cap?  :3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: happycamper87 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 06:44:33
Ah ****. As someone who owns two n9 sets and with dark Olivia on the way this set is killing me. But the novelty kit totally sells the set...must have....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 19 June 2020, 06:49:53
Next update will include finalized kits, vendors, dates, deskmats, and delightful Rama collab, to be announced very soon. Can't wait to share, so very excited!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: zlalaman2 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 08:59:30
Here for it

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: whatisENDGAME on Mon, 06 July 2020, 20:02:31
yes yes yes!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: KeebOnMe on Wed, 08 July 2020, 22:40:16
When it's ready, I'll drop for the deskmat and novelties, and maybe basekit if the funds allow!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 10 July 2020, 12:37:46
Quick announcement before revealing the final kitting, pricing, mats and collab.

Beyond stoked and honored to announce the following vendors will be on board for GMK Pono

US - Dixie
CA - Deskhero
EU - MKB.eu
AU - Daily Clack
Asia - iLumKB
China - zFrontier

The set will be running July 17th to August 14th

More updates very very soon, hope you're as excited as I am :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Big foofy updates very soon!)
Post by: ogWalker on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:12:35
Quick announcement before revealing the final kitting, pricing, mats and collab.

Beyond stoked and honored to announce the following vendors will be on board for GMK Pono

US - Dixie
CA - Deskhero
EU - MKB.eu
AU - Daily Clack
Asia - iLumKB
China - zFrontier

The set will be running July 17th to August 14th

More updates very very soon, hope you're as excited as I am :D

Let's go! Great set, count me in for everything :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: Puncus on Fri, 10 July 2020, 17:21:23
Hadn t seen this before but it looks very classy, i'm pretty much in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: Madrai on Fri, 10 July 2020, 18:17:42
Would using PBT instead of ABS not been possible for this colorway? I know PBT the legends need to be 'darker', but seems like that may have been possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: mvkoto on Fri, 10 July 2020, 18:55:17
looking fwd to this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: pengoot02 on Fri, 10 July 2020, 19:18:45
naisu
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: S3LQ on Sun, 12 July 2020, 14:17:26
first
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: Krionking on Sun, 12 July 2020, 14:17:50
Kinda cute -Dr. Sour
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 17 July 2020, 00:49:02
Group Buy is live (https://dixiemech.com/gmkpono)

GB Post in the works :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: kapowaz on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:40:31
Will the novelties be sold through vendors other than Dixie?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:42:19
Will the novelties be sold through vendors other than Dixie?

Of course. Just have to wait for them to go live. Just launched so give it a little time :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PONO (Vendors and dates announced!)
Post by: sourmk on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:56:23
Locking thread.
 
Group Buy Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107547.0)