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Title: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: Eclairz on Wed, 22 January 2020, 07:18:49
Didn't see anyone posting here about the new ThinkPad Trackpoint Keyboard II so looks like they announced it, but surprisingly missed this news.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II-Lenovo-updates-external-TrackPoint-keyboard.448649.0.html

Here's the brochure: https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES.pdf

Of interest it looks like it uses a mixed wireless propriety USB and also BlueTooth which is good as I don't find BlueTooth very reliable. They changed it from Micro-USB  to USB-C which is also good, but if they flattened out the tractpad buttons like they did with my ThinkPad X1 Extreme it will be sadder but I guess it means it will be consistent feeling keys with my different PCs and Laptops.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 22 January 2020, 12:37:10
Cool

ThinkPad TrackPoint keyboards sure are iconc, aren't they?

Good to know USB-C is offered now.

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Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: ewon_c on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:00:15
I just bought a last gen non-chiclet TrackPoint Keyboard (SK-8845), it's good to know the product line gets refreshed
btw, this is my first post on this forum. Hello everyone.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: ewon_c on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:16:49
I take back what I just said because hmm, they are replacing the trackpoint with the new, flat design found on the new ThinkPad laptops. Not ideal. Guess I'll just stick with my old keyboard.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: yui on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:28:52
for some reasons reading the title i expected some old bs board review, i did not expect that lenovo still made trackpoint keyboards, nice to know (bs for buckling spring, not the other kind of bs) and welcome ewon_c, i do remember someone else using this picture though, might have been somewhere else.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 23 January 2020, 13:32:39
Hey FYI I'll add that the TrackPoint mechanical keyboards are a nice programmable upgrade to these Lenovo ones. Anyone who really likes this concept should def check those out.

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Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: 4sStylZ on Fri, 24 January 2020, 02:42:34
I have the first gen and the design is surprisely close.

This keyboard is very interesting but for some reason a total fail for me. I love the low profile design but the location of some key are strange. For example I have used it a whole year and I am still unable to reach home / end, even with the bumpy cat sticker that I have added to make a sort of homing.

The trackpoint is great in term of quality.

The story have ended when I have tried to plug the micro usb male at the wrong side and break the keyboard female port.
I have buyed some micro usb port but I never had solder something small like that.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sun, 26 January 2020, 14:06:35
I love the look, it looks really good, but I'd have to try it in person.

I really feel like that the trackpoint would get in the way of the low profile keys.

This already happens on My Model M13, I could imagine it being much worse here, being that it's the only abrasive material on the otherwise smooth surface of the keyboard.

I think it looks nice though.

I just bought a last gen non-chiclet TrackPoint Keyboard (SK-8845), it's good to know the product line gets refreshed
btw, this is my first post on this forum. Hello everyone.

Welcome to Geekhack, glad to have you.  :)
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 05:58:06
In Thinkpad laptops you can swap left Fn with CTRL - I wonder if this is possible with this keyboard.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 27 January 2020, 06:15:42
Didn't see anyone posting here about the new ThinkPad Trackpoint Keyboard II so looks like they announced it, but surprisingly missed this news.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II-Lenovo-updates-external-TrackPoint-keyboard.448649.0.html

Here's the brochure: https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES.pdf

Of interest it looks like it uses a mixed wireless propriety USB and also BlueTooth which is good as I don't find BlueTooth very reliable. They changed it from Micro-USB  to USB-C which is also good, but if they flattened out the tractpad buttons like they did with my ThinkPad X1 Extreme it will be sadder but I guess it means it will be consistent feeling keys with my different PCs and Laptops.

New nipple mouse?
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: ewon_c on Tue, 04 February 2020, 10:48:28
... and welcome ewon_c, i do remember someone else using this picture though, might have been somewhere else.
It's Freddie Mercury from Queen
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: phinix on Wed, 08 April 2020, 06:31:16
I'm hoping this will come out next month, I think I may buy it.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: Eclairz on Tue, 28 April 2020, 03:45:30
It's out today

News
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II-is-now-available.463107.0.html

US link
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/new-arrivals/KBD-BO-TrackPoint-KBD-US-Eng/p/4Y40X49493

But not on the UK site yet :-(
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: phinix on Tue, 28 April 2020, 03:58:39
It's out today

News
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II-is-now-available.463107.0.html

US link
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/new-arrivals/KBD-BO-TrackPoint-KBD-US-Eng/p/4Y40X49493

But not on the UK site yet :-(


Oooh, I gotta have it :D

I wonder if its possible to switch that fn and ctrl key...
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: Eclairz on Tue, 28 April 2020, 07:18:46
I wonder if its possible to switch that fn and ctrl key...

I hope so, the USB version didn't allow us to switch them, even though I can switch them in bios on the ThinkPad laptops.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: phinix on Tue, 28 April 2020, 08:22:33
I wonder if its possible to switch that fn and ctrl key...

I hope so, the USB version didn't allow us to switch them, even though I can switch them in bios on the ThinkPad laptops.

Yeah, I did the same thing on mine, but that was BIOS
I wonder if they could release some firmware update to have that done permanently... I guess it is possible.
Title: Re: New Thinkpad TrackPoint Keyboard II
Post by: sharktastica on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:10:34
This is definitely going on my list of things to buy next month. I have a soft spot for most things ThinkPad, and whilst it wasn't perfect (I mean what is?) with its fragile micro USB port and lack of backlighting, the KU/KT-1255 this thing is replacing was an excellent portable keyboard that I found particularly useful when I have to use public computers at libraries or on my university campus. I know there are cheaper options that will do the same thing, but the selling point was that it has a layout and feel I know (being a ThinkPad guy).