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Title: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:00: What profile does OG Cherry caps have?

I mean, is it 1,1,2,3,4,5?
Or 1,1,2,3,4,4?
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:52: 112345

Or 112344

And occasionally 222344
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:49:51: Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:52
112345

Or 112344

And occasionally 222344

Cool :rolleyes:

I was wondering if bottom row is 4 or 5. So it can be both then.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:51:27: Most of the full size boards will have R5

But 1800s you'll find R4 and I've also seen some full sizes with R4 as well
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:17:52: Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:52
112345

Or 112344

And occasionally 222344

So Cherry did do some messing around with their profiling back in the day, although 2-2-2-3-4-4 sound pretty funky to me. R5 on the other hand I wish would make a comeback, I got the OG set of GMK Sky Dolch that came with R5 caps & I always use them over the R4 ones!
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:36:50: Quote from: Rob27shred on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:17:52
Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:52
112345

Or 112344

And occasionally 222344

So Cherry did do some messing around with their profiling back in the day, although 2-2-2-3-4-4 sound pretty funky to me. R5 on the other hand I wish would make a comeback, I got the OG set of GMK Sky Dolch that came with R5 caps & I always use them over the R4 ones!

1800s like the one below have the flatter top profile

More
(https://i.imgur.com/3Eq4r4Z.jpg)

But yeah, GMK now has R5 (1u, 1.25u, 1.5u, numpad enters...) for all compatibility since GMK Carbon R2 so people should make more use of it.

IMO, it's superior.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 27 January 2020, 09:15:01: Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:36:50
Quote from: Rob27shred on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:17:52
Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:45:52
112345

Or 112344

And occasionally 222344

So Cherry did do some messing around with their profiling back in the day, although 2-2-2-3-4-4 sound pretty funky to me. R5 on the other hand I wish would make a comeback, I got the OG set of GMK Sky Dolch that came with R5 caps & I always use them over the R4 ones!

1800s like the one below have the flatter top profile

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3Eq4r4Z.jpg)

But yeah, GMK now has R5 (1u, 1.25u, 1.5u, numpad enters...) for all compatibility since GMK Carbon R2 so people should make more use of it.

IMO, it's superior.

I guess the flatter profiling does make a bit more sense on a board like that. Also good to know since I have almost pulled the trigger on similar Cherry 1800s & did not know it had a different cap profiling. I agree with R5 being the superior option for Cherry profile bottom rows, but we seem to be in the minority there. Hopefully more sets start to make use of it going forward though!
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 27 January 2020, 09:28:07: Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:51:27
Most of the full size boards will have R5
Of the full-size G80-3000, the winkeyless had R5, but those with Windows keys have R4 at the bottom.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 10:18:39: Cool, thanks. I have some OG at home (I think it was from Desko keyboard), I'll check what profile it is.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 16:03:54: Ok, guessing thats 112345?

[attach=1]
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 28 January 2020, 00:26:50: Quote from: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 16:03:54
Ok, guessing thats 112345?

(Attachment Link)
Yes

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: phinix on Tue, 28 January 2020, 02:32:54: Quote from: LightningXI on Tue, 28 January 2020, 00:26:50
Quote from: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 16:03:54
Ok, guessing thats 112345?

(Attachment Link)
Yes

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Cool, thanks for confirming.
So now I know which profile caps I need to complete it :)
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Thu, 27 August 2020, 06:43:00: ~
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 27 August 2020, 07:46:18: Quote from: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Thu, 27 August 2020, 06:43:00
A bit of necromancy: which boards had R0 (or F-row) profile top row (like modern GMK Carbon R2)?
Very few, relatively speaking. You'll usually only find it on the absolute oldest, non-standard layout Cherry boards. For example:

G80-0312
(https://preview.redd.it/dvmnfhdtk3j21.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7631759f0d81a6f8afadc4e193b0f752ff649d1d)

G80-0505
[attach=1]

You'll find more on the Cherry database spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G-LZLjPp25AtXDylIo6_WooRnF7c6wTSCkUafsFmb2U/edit?usp=sharing), look in the pre-1000 section.

Quote from: Findecanor on Mon, 27 January 2020, 09:28:07
Of the full-size G80-3000, the winkeyless had R5, but those with Windows keys have R4 at the bottom.
There are also very few examples of winkeyless boards with R4, for example G81-3100SPBUS (http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=13153&sca=&sfl=wr_subject%7C%7Cwr_content&stx=spbus).
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: ideus on Thu, 27 August 2020, 09:27:52: That g80 is a very interesting keyboard and the set is very nice. It is a shame that the bottom row appears to be engraved and is now worn off
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 27 August 2020, 10:43:48: Quote from: ideus on Thu, 27 August 2020, 09:27:52
That g80 is a very interesting keyboard and the set is very nice. It is a shame that the bottom row appears to be engraved and is now worn off
Yeah, it's quite an interesting one. I should probably document it properly sometime soon. It has a real MX lock underneath the Alpha Lock key too, one of the few boards that comes with one.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Thu, 27 August 2020, 11:00:12: ~
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Mikhail on Fri, 28 August 2020, 17:47:06: I think high 5 row was until mid 90'.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Mikhail on Fri, 28 August 2020, 17:50:07: Quote from: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Thu, 27 August 2020, 06:43:00
A bit of necromancy: which boards had R0 (or F-row) profile top row (like modern GMK Carbon R2)?

Wow, i seen same R0 in old OEM and Tai-Hao caps))
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 29 August 2020, 00:04:52: Some keymodules Cherry OEMed for other manufacturers used it as well. On this board the R0 keys are very thin.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:30:24: Roughly how much cost does R5 row add to a base kit? For non-Drop quantities but more like normal vendors.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:36:34: Quote from: directheatedtriode on Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:30:24
Roughly how much cost does R5 row add to a base kit? For non-Drop quantities but more like normal vendors.

GMK doesn't do quotes on a per-key basis and instead accounts for the kit as a whole, so there's no real "formula" that's known publicly for that to be calculated accurately.
Title: Re: OG Cherry caps profile
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 07 September 2020, 09:25:00: Quote from: LightningXI on Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:36:34
Quote from: directheatedtriode on Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:30:24
Roughly how much cost does R5 row add to a base kit? For non-Drop quantities but more like normal vendors.

GMK doesn't do quotes on a per-key basis and instead accounts for the kit as a whole, so there's no real "formula" that's known publicly for that to be calculated accurately.

Makes sense, thanks.