Depends on what editor you use. I wouldn't survive in MS Visual Studio without at least a tenkeyless.
Same with intellij. I very regularly use 3-4 key shortcuts, adding layering into the mix would be awful.Same here. I need a 75% at least, as there are multi modifier shortcuts already. Using function keys is frequent too in web development.
I see it depends on the store. Some heavy on one, some the other. Korean is all mini. It seems mini is associated with coders. I think Happy Hacking is self explanatory. I just want to justify it really. I am now proficient on it. I am glad because it is my "finest" board. At least I feel that way. AFAIK there is no full size built like this. For a 67 key of Titanium to weigh nearly 13#,,,,,,
I would go so far as to say some Korean's are even better! The HHKB is plenty good enough. Almost all of my co-workers use it. Plus when I go to other large companies 300 people in a room are using it too. I think that speaks for itself. I gather most coders prefer a mini. A full size is for like accounting, Lawyers. Some coders have a keypad though. I have no use for it. FN is fine with me.
I would go so far as to say some Korean's are even better! The HHKB is plenty good enough. Almost all of my co-workers use it. Plus when I go to other large companies 300 people in a room are using it too. I think that speaks for itself. I gather most coders prefer a mini. A full size is for like accounting, Lawyers. Some coders have a keypad though. I have no use for it. FN is fine with me.
Yep, also you have to remember coders work in a cubicle usually, so they don't have a lot of desk space. An HHKB is small and will serve them well for that kind of space.
I would go so far as to say some Korean's are even better! The HHKB is plenty good enough. Almost all of my co-workers use it. Plus when I go to other large companies 300 people in a room are using it too. I think that speaks for itself. I gather most coders prefer a mini. A full size is for like accounting, Lawyers. Some coders have a keypad though. I have no use for it. FN is fine with me.
Yep, also you have to remember coders work in a cubicle usually, so they don't have a lot of desk space. An HHKB is small and will serve them well for that kind of space.
I would go so far as to say some Korean's are even better! The HHKB is plenty good enough. Almost all of my co-workers use it. Plus when I go to other large companies 300 people in a room are using it too. I think that speaks for itself. I gather most coders prefer a mini. A full size is for like accounting, Lawyers. Some coders have a keypad though. I have no use for it. FN is fine with me.
Yep, also you have to remember coders work in a cubicle usually, so they don't have a lot of desk space. An HHKB is small and will serve them well for that kind of space.
and a lot of coders (yours truly, for example) work in open-concept offices. My small team has accepted my keyboard as one of my amusing quirks, but if I tried anything louder than a cherry brown I think I'd be pulled aside and given a stern talking-to.
I would go so far as to say some Korean's are even better! The HHKB is plenty good enough. Almost all of my co-workers use it. Plus when I go to other large companies 300 people in a room are using it too. I think that speaks for itself. I gather most coders prefer a mini. A full size is for like accounting, Lawyers. Some coders have a keypad though. I have no use for it. FN is fine with me.
Yep, also you have to remember coders work in a cubicle usually, so they don't have a lot of desk space. An HHKB is small and will serve them well for that kind of space.
and a lot of coders (yours truly, for example) work in open-concept offices. My small team has accepted my keyboard as one of my amusing quirks, but if I tried anything louder than a cherry brown I think I'd be pulled aside and given a stern talking-to.
Cherry brown isn't the quietest switch, but I understand your predicament. The best thing to do in a "silent" office is to use silent tactiles so you know when the actuation point is, and you can at least reduce some of the downward force it takes to bottom out.
speaking of work keyboards though, i'm so envious of people with sexy keyboard cases and switches, as I just can't get by without a full keyboard with a numpad at work. going super custom would get so so expensive.
speaking of work keyboards though, i'm so envious of people with sexy keyboard cases and switches, as I just can't get by without a full keyboard with a numpad at work. going super custom would get so so expensive.
I'm 100% the same. I have a full-size realforce R1 at work. Most people think it looks like I've brought out something from the 1980s even though it's brand new. I have a 60% at home that I like to use but given that I work with numbers and Excel all day (finance) it would be a joke to my productivity if I tried to use a 60% or even a TKL at work.
Ideally I would like a compact fullsize keyboard (must have F keys, arrows, numpad, remove all the other stuff like home button, pageup/down etc) with a Lenovo trackpoint on it. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that so it would need to be a custom job and I don't know who does something like that.
OK here's a tangential Q that's been bugging me --- I get the layer thing with function keys, but how to HHKB people function without ARROW KEYS??? having to press two keys for "down" or "up" would drive me bananas.
Quite a few coders at my workplace just use the super-flat keyboard on their MacBooks even when hooked up to a monitor (monstrous, I know).
Quite a few coders at my workplace just use the super-flat keyboard on their MacBooks even when hooked up to a monitor (monstrous, I know).
Those "keyboards" are abominations, which must all be cleansed from the face of this earth for the good of humanity.
I write code all day long and still prefer fullsize given the option, but am fine tkl as tbh the only thing I like about the numpad is numpad enter. Staying in one position long term is uncomfortable, I've no desire to enable a total lack of movement.
Most coders I know just use whatever keyboard they already have.Same here. My company has about 20 old school COBOL programmers, and every single one of them uses whatever cheap-ass Dell keyboard the company provided. They're horrible, and I don't know how they use those things every day, but they all do. We used to have one guy who brought in some kind of backlit MX keyboard, but he was the only one.
How's this for coding?Show Image(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TPMAAOSww6NdWjnk/s-l1600.jpg)
Apparently a Toshiba TEC TKB 1-A "progamming" "keyboard"
Better or worse than a modern Macbook Pro's wet kardboard?
I couldn't imagine. I hope it was for some quick strings in some sort of manufacturing machine.
How's this for coding?Show Image(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TPMAAOSww6NdWjnk/s-l1600.jpg)
Apparently a Toshiba TEC TKB 1-A "progamming" "keyboard"
Better or worse than a modern Macbook Pro's wet kardboard?
I couldn't imagine. I hope it was for some quick strings in some sort of manufacturing machine.
Its best to either leave that job or that keyboard where it belongs : the trash
OK here's a tangential Q that's been bugging me --- I get the layer thing with function keys, but how to HHKB people function without ARROW KEYS??? having to press two keys for "down" or "up" would drive me bananas.
OK here's a tangential Q that's been bugging me --- I get the layer thing with function keys, but how to HHKB people function without ARROW KEYS??? having to press two keys for "down" or "up" would drive me bananas.
This is easy to answer.
Map Control to be a modifier that combined with hjkl acts as arrow keys.
So Control+HJKL = arrow keys
HHKB the control and delete key are well placed. I love the fn arrow keys since my hand does not leave the home row. also the small form factor is good to carry to the office, home and on the road. I also sometimes take it to meetings or presentation when i have to do code reviews or think tanks.
You can't really make the argument the argument I do not need a full size board because I do not do "X". since eventually you will find yourself doing it. murphy's law. Plus not all full size boards have exactly the same keys. so even then you must choose what you want. Otherwise a real "Full size" board is maybe 140 keys!