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Title: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: Olumin on Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:11:18
Since I occasionally make technical drafts of components and parts by hand, I commonly use mechanical pencils in 0.3, 0.5 and 0.7mm in hardness 2H, H and HB respectively. Recently I thought about getting a Pentel Orenz in 0.2mm for even finer detail. However, 0.2 lead (which is only made by Pentel), seems to only come on HB, B and 2B. These are too soft to allow for the fine lines I am looking for. Pentel seems to have made H grade .2 lead in the past as part of their Hi-Polymer line, these seem to no longer be made…

(https://static2.jetpens.com/images/a/000/004/4463.jpg?ba=middle%2Ccenter&balph=3&blend64=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5qZXRwZW5zLmNvbS9pbWFnZXMvYXNzZXRzL3dhdGVybWFyazIucG5n&bm=difference&bs=inherit&mark64=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5qZXRwZW5zLmNvbS9pbWFnZXMvYXNzZXRzL3dhdGVybWFyazEucG5n&markalign=top%2Cright&markalpha=30&markscale=16&q=90&w=600&s=235295db34418a9b61098fc99db5266c)
(Elusive 0.2 in H, no longer sold...)

Does anyone know of 0.2 leads in either H or 2H which are still sold (somewhere)?
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:39:40
Jetpens have them.

https://www.jetpens.com/Pentel-Ain-Stein-Lead-0.2-mm-HB/pd/11966
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: Olumin on Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:43:27
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:39:40
Jetpens have them.

https://www.jetpens.com/Pentel-Ain-Stein-Lead-0.2-mm-HB/pd/11966

They used to, they dont sell them in H or 2H. What you linked is HB...
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 March 2020, 15:10:29
Hrrrm... well..  if you only let out a little bit of the tip at a time, it shouldn't be that much more brittle than h/2h.
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: Olumin on Mon, 02 March 2020, 05:01:27
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 March 2020, 15:10:29
Hrrrm... well..  if you only let out a little bit of the tip at a time, it shouldn't be that much more brittle than h/2h.


B is soft, H is Hard. Any number prior to that indicates how hard or soft, the bigger the number, the softer/harder the lead. HB is the middle ground, standard hardness. I am looking for harder lead, as they draw finer, less dark lines. I don’t worry about breakage as the Pentel Orenz protects against that.
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: biothermal on Mon, 02 March 2020, 06:58:29
IIRC the lead you have a picture of in your first post (Pentel Hi-Polymer) was the only pencil lead in 0.2 that had an H variant.

At this point that lead hasn't been available for a good four+ years so you might be out of luck. Check eBay every now and then... maybe you'll find some.
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: yui on Mon, 02 March 2020, 07:26:55
tbh when i did try to get really fine details on a drawing i used to "sharpen" my 5mm leads on a piece of scrap paper
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: Olumin on Mon, 02 March 2020, 17:06:37
Yes, I use a 2mm pencil and sand paper for that purpose. It would just make things easier to get a 0.2 in 2H/H instead.
Title: Re: 0.2 mm lead in H or 2H? No longer made?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:23:25
When I was drafting in pencil in the 1970s-1980s I used these to get needle-sharp points. They work fantastically well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Staedtler-Mars-502-Lead-Pointer-Tub-Sharpener-Mechanical-Pencil-Draft-MJ/312431411966?hash=item48be5d02fe:g:xgEAAOSwEVlcQC49 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Staedtler-Mars-502-Lead-Pointer-Tub-Sharpener-Mechanical-Pencil-Draft-MJ/312431411966?hash=item48be5d02fe:g:xgEAAOSwEVlcQC49)