Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration :)
- Add F13 to the extension kit.
- Move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit since those keys are only used on layouts with numpads.
- R3 1.75u Function would be cool.
- I think the green R1 \| in the ISO kit may have been added by mistake.
- Remove the Win keys and instead use Code everywhere.
- I don't like the discrepancy between Insert and Del. Since I don't think Delete fits on SA 1u, how about using Ins instead?
- This is down to your preference as the designer, but I think it'd look better if Scroll↲Lock were Scroll, Page↲Up were Page etc.
- Not sure how useful the second 1.25u space in the 40s kit is.
Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration :)
- Add F13 to the extension kit.
- Move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit since those keys are only used on layouts with numpads.
- R3 1.75u Function would be cool.
- I think the green R1 \| in the ISO kit may have been added by mistake.
- Remove the Win keys and instead use Code everywhere.
- I don't like the discrepancy between Insert and Del. Since I don't think Delete fits on SA 1u, how about using Ins instead?
- This is down to your preference as the designer, but I think it'd look better if Scroll↲Lock were Scroll, Page↲Up were Page etc.
- Not sure how useful the second 1.25u space in the 40s kit is.
Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration :)
- Add F13 to the extension kit.
Hey there again, Konstantin! The big blocker for a lot of these things is going to be what molds that Maxkey has available and we are already producing quite a few legends/molds for the 40s kit here. The goal here, and reason for going with Maxkey is to keep this VERY affordable. We will ask how an additional handful of molds will affect price when we get to the point of reaching out for quotes :)
1. F13 mold doesn't exist in Maxkey's library as far as I know, but we will inquire and see if it does
If there’s no F13 option could one of the novelties be green in white to fit in that slot instead?
I like this ideaIf there’s no F13 option could one of the novelties be green in white to fit in that slot instead?
Heyyyyyy now there's an idea!
Some good points, but some things (IE: Code instead of Win) were based off of what molds Maxkey has made.
Hey there again, Konstantin! The big blocker for a lot of these things is going to be what molds that Maxkey has available and we are already producing quite a few legends/molds for the 40s kit here. The goal here, and reason for going with Maxkey is to keep this VERY affordable. We will ask how an additional handful of molds will affect price when we get to the point of reaching out for quotes :)
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Forgive my ignorance, but with PBT color chips featured, is this set intending to be ABS doubleshot or PBT dye sub? Either way, I’m very interested in the ergo set. Love the gradient. :cool:ABS Doubleshot, I looked at ABS colors but they didn't work as well as the PBT colors. Wei assured that Maxkey can match PBT colors.
Disappointed this wasn't called cabbage in the end. :)Cabbage is not as elegant as Jadeite
PBT and I'm in <3
Please consider adding F-row keys that support keyboards which have no blocker between F-rows such as 96%, 75%,...I've thought about it and the problem is that there are so many variations of the F row on compat 1800 boards that it makes it hard to cater to all of the different renditions of it.
Here's an example problem of SA VilebloomShow Image(https://scontent-hkt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70257949_2394261374015241_1658879428148592640_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_oc=AQk4V22DTNK0Yla6dzY7Htv8TCWDmdnNSD9dp-GmWLjPsArezb2ibMBlRCJ5zWHiz9g&_nc_ht=scontent-hkt1-1.xx&oh=6b80c1120efaacd2868af9b8b0677fff&oe=5EB12CA6)
PBT and I'm in <3Maxkey doubleshots are ABS only as far as I'm aware.
Beautiful, can we get a norde kit?
I think you can account for most or all of the 1800/75%/F13 layouts with 2 extra keys: Green F5 and the light teal F6.
Excuse my bad mock-ups, but I think it gets the point across generally that it should accommodate most possible FRowsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/p4vMzS3.png)
Okay, now this is epic. I held out on Lucky Jade because it just didn't feel right at the moment, but this fills that hole. Hopefully the kit's run doesn't conflict with other sets I want.No special font, just normal SA font.
Is the font on the keys going to be as thick as they are in the renders? Or is it a different font from most SA sets?
What about green legends for the white keycaps instead of black? I don't know if it is better but a render would be cool? Or at least the right side modifers.
Yup, they're dark green (same as the cap on the left)What about green legends for the white keycaps instead of black? I don't know if it is better but a render would be cool? Or at least the right side modifers.
I'm pretty sure they are dark green, at least they are on the KLE.
Interested for my partner. Any chance for MacOS keys?Sorry, the likelihood of it reaching MOQ is too low to proceed with it.
In other news, kits have been updating.
Ergodox kit will now cover a lot more split boards (Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc)!
Removed unnecessary ISO key
Added additional F5 and F6 for compat large boards (75%, 96%, etc.) to help keep gradient in tack.
Added white R1 novelties for F13
In other news, kits have been updating.
Ergodox kit will now cover a lot more split boards (Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc)!
Removed unnecessary ISO key
Added additional F5 and F6 for compat large boards (75%, 96%, etc.) to help keep gradient in tack.
Added white R1 novelties for F13
Now that the Extension kit is two keys “heavier”, could you move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit? Again, those keys are only ever used with numpads, and they don't see use on any layout smaller than 1800/CP/96-key. Which is why most recent numpadless sets (e.g. 9009, MoDoL, Café, Apollo, Bleached) have been putting them in their numpad kits.
Here are our thoughts
Modifiers covers standard TKL
Modifiers + Numpad covers standard fullsize
Extension kit are for those running nonstandard things (Tsangan, 75%, 95%, etc.) (compat designs + 65% requires the short shift anyways).
The difference between those GMK sets and this SA set is that, they include the extension kit (more or less) into the base kit.
This is gorgeous, will pair nicely with Box Jades, hopefully its an open GB. Not sure if this will pair better with a silver or a white case, specifically a kbd76mkii. Can we get renders for that? Thanks and good luck!
This is gorgeous, will pair nicely with Box Jades, hopefully its an open GB. Not sure if this will pair better with a silver or a white case, specifically a kbd76mkii. Can we get renders for that? Thanks and good luck!
I’m not sure if this is still an issue or not, but box stems can crack SAs (has happened to me).
I'm new here, so I was wondering how long you would estimate it to take for this to reach GB/Shipping, and could you possibly get a render of this on a white board?Time it takes from IC to GB: depends on level of interest and how many projects are launching before this.
How many people for IC on KBDFans till it'll go on sale?I don't have the exact number but more the merrier.
Include international/Nordic with Ð and Þ, and I would be more than just interested.
Include international/Nordic with Ð and Þ, and I would be more than just interested.International kit unlikely.
Not sure if it’s intentional, but the KBDFans hyperlink 404s now.
I was going to come back with a major update before anyone noticed that the KBDFans IC was no longer present so I guess I will provide a minor update.
The quotes we received from Maxkey were unreasonable. Unreasonable being the cost of the alphas kit, which would have (in return) caused prices to be higher for any layout for you. We know it was unreasonable because we also asked SP to run a quote on the exact same kits and the pricing for the alphas kit was significantly less.
We are moving to switch to SP SA and are reorganizing our kits to better suit SP SA. Some kits may be removed, sadly, since the cost may be too high for certain individuals in those categories (IE: Ergodox kit).
Again, we are still weighting our options on kits, but we will be back with more news are we finish things up (new kitting, vendors, etc.).
Thank you.
But I gotta say the cabbage novelty looks like grandpa's wrinkly ****. The source material is stunning, but I don't think it translates.
It's hard to turn a multicolor cabbage into a one color cabbage, we'll see what we can do about thatBut I gotta say the cabbage novelty looks like grandpa's wrinkly ****. The source material is stunning, but I don't think it translates.
lol this
What’s the ETA on this group buy? I am super excited for this gradient
Exciting! Looking forward to this set! Is it going to be PBT? Is see that the color swatches you have are SA PBT. I missed that if so (and colour me interested, as I haven't had a chance to try SA-P yet)!It's going to be ABS, but chose to use PBT colors since they worked the best in terms of standard colors we could use (no color matching required, SP already said they could color match PBT colors).
I had a note about the Ortho/40s kit too -- the default Planck layout has an R4 enter (since the key at the end of R3 is usually the ' " key), but this kit only has the R3 enter. I might grab the kit depending on pricing, and it seems an odd omisson, especially with all of the different configurations of Tab and Esc available.
I was also surprised to see both "Return" and "Enter" -- the ANSI key is Return but the ISO one is Enter, and the Ortho/40s kit has both an Enter and a Return of different sizes. Is this deliberate?
Thanks for clarifying!Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.
Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key :))
Thanks for clarifying!Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.
Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key :))
SP SA has molds for arrows (and we like them better than the words so we're going with them)Oh sorry, I wasn't commenting on your renders! I was talking about weird renders from another different set lol.Thanks for clarifying!Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.
Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key :))
And I figured these were going to change, since they still have the distinctive Maxkey arrows :)
Thoughts on new kitting:
- Looks good overall. It's obvious that some thought has gone into it.
- Not sure how useful a 1.75u LShift (green) would be; probably not very much. Is this key supposed to be 2u?
- R1 PgDn and End can be moved to the Numpad kit. See below for details.
- Spacebars: It'd be nice to have a 1u spacekey in here as well.
- 40s: Typo in R3 1.25u white Ctrl legend.
- 40s: Is R3 1.5u Win instead of Super intended? Is it supposed to double as a 1.5u Ctrl key? If so, maybe Code would be more appropriate?
- 40s: A 6.25u spacebar might be a worthwhile inclusion.
- 40s: Perhaps two 1.5u spacekeys might be more useful than two 1.25u spacekeys? (for Atreus, Lily, Crkbd etc.)
Re R1 PgDn, End: If you recall, at the start of the IC I suggested moving these keys from Extension to Numpad. In this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105562.msg2886800#msg2886800) you made a good point that those keys were better suited for Extension. However, since the Extension kit is no longer around, I now claim that these keys would be better in the Numpad kit instead of Mods so that people who don't use numpads don't need to pay for them (again, they are only used on boards that have numpads: 1800/CP/96-key).
:thumb:
- 1.75U LShift is being swapped to 2U
- R1 PgDn and End is being moved to numpad, since if people are using an 1800, they'd need to pick up a numpad.
- Typo being fixed.
- 40s kit keys being fixed (Win to super, 2 1.5U)
Yep, you're totally right, I overlooked that. Thanks for the sanity check.
- There is a 6.25u spacebar in the Alphas kit, which they will need to pick up regardless.
SA Jadeite
Signature Plastics SA
Collaboration between HoodrowThrillson and OneCreativeMind
Interest Check here (https://forms.gle/r9Wz9kdE1Twa1z7bA)
GB Date: September 2020Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQNmGtj.png)
RAMA WORKS U80A + SA Jadeite Alphas and Modifers
What is Jadeite?
Jadeite is one of the two mineral species that fall under the classification of jade (the other one is called nephrite).
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And the theme?
This past winter, I had the opportunity to travel to Taiwan with my S/O as well as my Taiwanese friend and his S/O. During that time, I got to experience all there was to do in Taiwan. One of the most memorable places we got to go to was the National Palace Museum. I was fortunate enough to see the Jade Cabbage, which this set is based off of. Yes I did IC KAM Jade but this set will probably replace that.
The image I took of the Jade Cabbage is below.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nwDvKl6.jpg)
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Colors
Signature Plastics PBT ColorsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YnuJeLW.jpg)
From left to right: VS, VAZ, VCB, WAN
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Vendors? Pricing?
NA: Novelkeys
EU: Mykeyboard
Asia: Monokei
OCE: Daily Clack
Alphas: $xx
Modifiers: $xx
Numpad: $xx
ISO: $xx
40s + Ortho: $xx
Spacebars: $xx
Treasures: $xx
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Kits?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VA1a0lW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0mpvjvo.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rtXEdwx.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vLt6XOl.jpg)
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Renders
As always, done by Abec13
U80AShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NQNmGtj.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bYb960N.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GgJMJQ9.png)
Think 6.5Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AOvWFor.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TwVMhTQ.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KjbwbBb.png)
NeuronShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/QZGNKjf.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yHC3IHL.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/K0E2G10.png)
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this is berry niceI clearly ****ed something up :))
Do i need another green SA set ? maybe not. But that one is looking so good, i dont think i can resist.
Stoked for this.Waiting for a few more things before I do one last update before GB.
Has an actual date been announced or are we still at 'sometime in september?'