Unless you are typing vigorously, the main noise from the Topre boards is the keycaps moving. The HHKB is slightly louder than the Realforce in this respect (at least mine is.) The advantage is that there is no switch noise, so it sounds like keyboards that 'normal' people are used to, so they are less likely to find it intrusive. And you can type pretty quietly if you slow down.
This is one of my friends filming a classmate using a typewriter in class at Georgia Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4nwe7cW_og
Just get the Topre and stop wishing you had one. In fact, get a HHKB. The girl in front of you will think it's cute.
This is one of my friends filming a classmate using a typewriter in class at Georgia Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4nwe7cW_og
Are you serious? That clip is famous, he was one of your friends? lol
ItlnStln liked the HHKB so much he tried to sell it.
Of course it was a half hearted effort so he priced it high.
ItlnStln liked the HHKB so much he tried to sell it.
Of course it was a half hearted effort so he priced it high.
ItlnStln liked the HHKB so much he tried to sell it.
Of course it was a half hearted effort so he priced it high.
Where IS that HHKB Pro 3???
Those Topre engineers keep doing Yellow/Blue/Red keys. I mean WHERE is their job security in doing that?
True. I was planning on getting another Filco. Every time I go back and use a regular keyboard, I keep wanting to go back to the HHKB layout, so I took Ripster's advice and kept it. I still really enjoy it, but I get jealous of the RF Topres on the numpad. One day, I might get a RF 103, but since the layout is the main draw of the HHKB, I think it would be a bad purchase. I just hope the HHKB Pro 3 feels more like the RF.
I don't know the difference between th HHKP and the Topre as I only have a Realforce 103.
That's funny. When I was in college, we didn't even have laptops. They existed, of course (I'm not that old), they were just prohibitively expensive at the time.When I started University, they didn't even have pocket calculators! But they came out, prohibitively expensive, before I graduated. And then I could finally afford one while I was a grad student.
The kid doing it isn't a friend, the kid I know was in the class
Sorry to rain on your parade, but if you spend $400 on a keyboard, chances are that most girls will ignore you.
You need classes to learn Unix? In our college, it's assumed that you know it...
On the plus side, when people see how expensive your keyboard was, they will flock to you in search of friendship. I am currently using a HHKB Pro 2; the switches are nice and somewhat quiet as long as you don't strike too hard.
Really? People look at me like some kind of retard. It's the number one reason I do not evangelize keyboards. I dismiss the topic and move on. Most people do not share our enthusiasm.
Actually my kid's friends think my trackballs are awesome. I tell them not to mention anything to their parents though or it may be misconstrued.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but if you spend $400 on a keyboard, chances are that most girls will ignore you.
I'll bet you and your BFF eIBM have alot of experience with girls ignoring you. You've never spent $400 bucks for a keyboard so you really aren't qualifed to predict how the opposite sex would react.
It's more reasonable to assume that girls just tend to ignore you both in general. Why don't you tell us how girls react when you tell them about the exciting Model M you found in the dumpster. I'll bet that's a sure bet for getting laid!
By the way, in your case, BFF doesn't stand for "Best Friends Forever". I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out BFF, as it applies to you and your pal, takes on a slightly different meaning. I'll give you a hint... the "B" stands for butt.. ;)
Oh, I'm only kidding. Just having fun with the children. :)
Most of my female friends think my keyboards if they see them.
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Really? People look at me like some kind of retard. It's the number one reason I do not evangelize keyboards. I dismiss the topic and move on. Most people do not share our enthusiasm.
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Most
Well that really depends on how you are considering the 'fraction' 0/0, surely; which limit is being used?
I think that was the problem I had in Computer Science in college. I was under the impression that I was going to learn about Computer Science. Little did I know classes were just a place for people that already knew everything about CS to come and socialize.
I switched majors shortly after that.
True, most people don't share our enthusiasm. What I hate most, however, is that these same people feel they have the right to criticize or make fun of my enthusiasm for my keyboards, pens and paper and other hobbies. I don't make fun of their hobbies. Some wash their cars and wax them every weekend. I don't do that. Some invest in big screen TV or home theatre. I don't do that either. So, why on earth, do they feel the need to make fun of my hobbies? I don't know.
True, most people don't share our enthusiasm. What I hate most, however, is that these same people feel they have the right to criticize or make fun of my enthusiasm for my keyboards, pens and paper and other hobbies. I don't make fun of their hobbies. Some wash their cars and wax them every weekend. I don't do that. Some invest in big screen TV or home theatre. I don't do that either. So, why on earth, do they feel the need to make fun of my hobbies? I don't know.
just bought an HP convertible tablet on ebay. ... why type when you can write?
Welcome to the club. Tablets with styluses rule
Given that later IBM PCs more than likely came out of the same factories as HPs, Dells etc etc and were probably made to the same spec, If I take some HP computer and wrote "IBM" on it with a permanent marker, do I have an IBM PC?
The irony is that EIBM has no interest in the interesting stuff that IBM made/makes, only the useless, overpriced ****.
Welcome to the club. Tablets with styluses rule
The average person writes 30WPM, I can type 80-100... Even if the writing recognition worked perfectly, I could never imagine why I'd want to use it.
people who dislike apple products because they dislike apple are almost as annoying as apple fanboys... The merit of their products should be assessed on what they are, not who they are made by.
People who dislike Apple products because they dislike Apple are almost as annoying as Apple fanboys... The merit of their products should be assessed on what they are, not who they are made by.
People who dislike Apple products because they dislike Apple are almost as annoying as Apple fanboys... The merit of their products should be assessed on what they are, not who they are made by.
I think ch_123 was talking about companies on average, not those that have committed gross ethics violations.
1) First, Tell me you've never boycotted a company because of some of their policies, regardless of the worth of their products? Its quite commonly done. Remember when everyone boycotted Coke because of their south africa policies? Exxon after the alaska spill? BP today?
2) External popular culture: (a culture of (what i consider to be) deceit in advertising (the mac vs pc ads, I thought, were horrifyingly simplistic), brainwashing masses, creating cult/religion, encouraging it, using all the things cults use).
Dont even get me started on the (political) censorship issues in the App store, or the draconian licensing that controls app coders.
If you look long and hard enough into the ownership of any company or product, you'll find that just about everything is owned by egomaniac sociopaths who like to gangbang starving African orphans and club baby seals, often simultaneously, and all for the lulz.
ya but ch, that doesnt excuse anyone, it merely condemns everyone. Again I feel like you're using the "they did it too" excuse to excuse an obvious wrong (like with founding fathers vs al queda).
Story: Its 10th grade, small upstate NY river town. I'm running down the hallway of my high school, late for class (or maybe for no particular reason, i dont remember). My english teacher walks by, grabs me.
Why are you running? You're not allowed to run. Walk, or I'll write you up.
me: but everyone else is running. (indeed, everyone else was running to class as the bell is ringing).
At this point he said something that I've mulled over in my mind in various ways over the years:
"I'm not talking to them, I'm talking to you."
me, scratching my head trying to make sense of what he means: yes, but they're all running and they're getting away with it. Why should *I* get in trouble?
I've thought about that little scene in my head so often over the years. Each time I think about it, I feel like I learn something new. I definitely firmly believed that either everyone gets punished, or none should. For me to be singled out, in my view, was the height of injustice.
Today though, I'm not so sure of that particular reasoning any more. Not saying i'm in a better place; but whenever that reasoning comes up in conversation, I'm reminded of that hallway episode, lol.
But I think thats two ways to look at it, and both are valid. On the one hand it merely condemns everyone. On the other hand we can hold apple accountable regardless of what others are doing. And in either case apple doesnt get a free pass (any more than al queda in that other example).
The average person writes 30WPM, I can type 80-100... Even if the writing recognition worked perfectly, I could never imagine why I'd want to use it.
People who dislike Apple products because they dislike Apple are almost as annoying as Apple fanboys... The merit of their products should be assessed on what they are, not who they are made by.
I also haven't read too much about the iPad, but other details that I heard about things like the walled garden App store culture, arbitrary app rejection, lack of USB ports, etc, seem like reasons not to buy one.
People who dislike Apple products because they dislike Apple are almost as annoying as Apple fanboys... The merit of their products should be assessed on what they are, not who they are made by.That is a generally valid principle.
WTF, how the Welly did a thread with such a great title turn into another iPad and therefore Apple is evil smashfest? Boooring repetitive verbal masturbation on the part of the ranter. Totally old **** with perfume on it. I'm going to go throw up now.
I wont hold it against you if you love apple, a lot of my friends are apple fiends.The Mac is my main computing platform, but I'm not a fiend. There's a big difference between being a fanboi whose panties get up in a bunch when anything bad is said of the Apple and someone who's just sick of the carbon copy same Apple anti-fanboi rant again and again. We already went through this in about a dozen other threads and I think both of us have posted to half of them. It'd be different if we had a whole different set of characters in this thread, but it's a lot of the same suspects.
Hyperlinked, I'm diggin your sigSad to say that I'm still a **** myself. Maybe later this year I'll graduate to the cool circle.
To me, the logical conclusion of all this talk is to become a hermit and live off your immediate surroundings in a non-destructive way. However, I don't see many others doing that, so I don't see why I should either.
Just the other day it was announced that Google killed apps on their Android market. Yeah, you know, that one that is meant to be a shining beacon of liberty...
I don't think that companies trying to control the quality of their platform is a bad thing. Look no further than Windows to see what happens when it goes horribly wrong...
There's a big difference between being a fanboi whose panties get up in a bunch when anything bad is said of the Apple and someone who's just sick of the carbon copy same Apple anti-fanboi rant again and again.
Yeah well, even though most apple products suck, the masses seem to like them. And apple is getting a lot of money.
But I guess what's always popular isn't always good.
Well, that's a strong opinion to have about VMS, but I guess it's not the worst OS around.
VMS is the real operating system you say?I think that OpenVMS is indeed a real operating system, more mainframe-like than UNIX, which is stripped-down by comparison.
If Windows wasn't the best OS by far, then why would just about everybody use it like they do?
I hear Macs are popular.
Apple mostly makes money from their doodads like the iPod, iPhone & iPad. The actual computers are not mainstream, and only used by a minority. Many mainstream apps like 3DS Max or FL Studio cannot work on macs, so a lot of that industry is windows-only. Same goes for games -- but computer gaming is dead.
Lol, eye-opening school experiences... In the Irish equivalent of 'fourth grade', the rules of the school I was in were such that when walking to and from the yard for break, we were expected to do so in silence as to not disturb classes that were not on break. Well, one day we were coming back and a load of people were chatting away. The teacher waited till we were all seated in the class and then gave out to us and demanded to know who was talking. Being the impressionable youngster I was, I was one of the people who raised my hand... We weren't allowed to eat till the next break. People who talked an awful lot more didn't raise their hand and got to eat.
I credit that as the day I learned the importance of dishonesty :p
Same goes for games -- but computer gaming is dead.
OS/2 was actually more promising than windows -- microsoft was even devoting more attention to it, but since windows was shipped with every PC, it began to take off, and OS/2 was left in the closet like an old rag to rot.
The reason why everyone uses it is because it is the largest developed platform.
At one point it was widely believed that Unix would become the main OS on PCs, Microsoft even had their own version of Unix which was quite popular. Too much infighting between different Unix vendors killed it off though...
If Windows wasn't the best OS by far, then why would just about everybody use it like they do?
Everybody uses dell computers and keyboards, they must be the best!
Linux wasn't even an option for my HP 210HD Netbook. So much for Netbooks introducing Linux to the masses.
Plus, I like the Windows key. So beautiful. So pure.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4755457194_f07727d7c7_z.jpg)
It's got the wrong Windows logo. There aren't too many good keyboards with that Windows logo on them.