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Title: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard | GB is starting soon.
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:38:58: (https://i.imgur.com/aOubynX.jpg)
ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇ
DGL TKL

Hello World,

I am Chanmin Kang, a keyboard designer and manufacturer based in Korea. As a keeb enthusiast (just like all of you guys!), I have dedicated a lot of time and effort into coming up with some creative keyboard designs with funky appearance and deep sounds, and have run quite a few domestic GBs under "4K" or "KKKK" branding so far. Now I plan to launch overseas sales for those who may be interested, and am pleased to present to you ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇ DGL TKL

(https://i.imgur.com/YtMJBG5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m4LMdTU.jpg)

Just like any other GBs around here, the process will kick off with an interest check (IC) to gauge your interest in the board. Happy to hear your thoughts and feedback on the design, but just a declaimer that below design is pretty much finalized and won't be changed unless absolutely necessary. But please don't be shy to show your reaction if you like the board - assume y'all are all stuck at home and have nothing else to do anyways!

※The design below has been finalized and will not be changed.

[Board Specs]
- Sandwich-mount
- Indicator LEDs
- Centered USB Type-C Port
- Pointed plate
- RGB strip at the bottom
- 7 degree angle
- 1.5cm (~0.6") height from the front
- 4T plate (THICK) for quiet and uniform typing feels
- PCB also supports QMK and Type-C and includes 17 RGB LEDs
- Supports both ANSI and ISO layouts

※ Typing Video ※

(https://i.imgur.com/piCqbSq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TrUQ7LQ.jpg)

We paid a lot of attention to the design and the quiet typing.
We used a 4T thick plate for quietness and uniformity.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T1bPnyhd/Kakao-Talk-20191010-113832032-15.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/26bjfqQQ/Kakao-Talk-20191010-113832032-10.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XD9fLY4/Kakao-Talk-20191010-113832032-06.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJn5n8TQ/Kakao-Talk-20191010-113832032-20.jpg)

The PCB also supports QMK and Type-C and includes 17 RGB LEDs.
It also supports ANSI and ISO layouts.

We offer several customization options.
You can choose between anodizing and a CERAKOTE™ coating.
The following colors are available for selection:

Top and Bottom : Silver, Black, Gray, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green, White*, Beige*

Plate : Silver, Black, Gray, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green

Point Plate(Located at the bottom of the keyboard.) : Silver, Black, Gray, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green, White*, Beige*

*: Cerakote™ Coating, There is an additional charge for this.

Base set with case, plate, PCB, front acrylic diffuser : $450
If you purchase the product, it will be sent via EMS.

We are closely monitoring the evolving situation with the COVID-19 Virus spreading around the world.
Currently, there is no problem with our shipping process and shipment.
However, some countries are currently blocking shipments from Korea.

If you do not receive the products shipped from Korea from your area of residence, we can ship them after COVID-19 is resolved and the restriction is lifted.

Here is a picture of the people who received the product from Korea.
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2MnLZ3N/img-user1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqxhgWGJ/img-user2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Yq0qWzJY/img-user3.jpg)

Check out some more pictures in the link below as well!

https://imgur.com/a/4o9E4wB (https://imgur.com/a/4o9E4wB)

Thank you for reading. If you are interested in the product, you can express your interest by writing the form below and help us.

~~https://forms.gle/n1RXWZA5r7re6yP17 (https://forms.gle/n1RXWZA5r7re6yP17)~~

If you have any questions, please leave them below! Thank you for your interest.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:15:43: This looks very nice! Good luck with everything!!
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: mchanneh on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:24:48: I like the border, it adds to the presence.

What's the weight of the case when put together?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: aslanxdeft on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:42:05: Hi, is there a wkl version of this?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: IMZO on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:54:59: WKL version?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:06:30: Quote from: aslanxdeft on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:42:05
Hi, is there a wkl version of this?

Quote from: IMZO on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:54:59
WKL version?

Yes, the WKL version will be made.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 15 April 2020, 15:48:41: Desire for quietness... Massively thick sandwhich aluminum plate.
Title: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:32:21: Any details on the PCB? QMK and Via support I hope?

Edit: Ignore me. Missed the mention of QMK in the post.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:34:05: Quote from: neon_tom on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:32:21
Any details on the PCB? QMK and Via support I hope?

OP said it does support QMK
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:34:53: Is it still US$500? Price is based on your previous IC post -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102993.0
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:35:02: Quote from: rondg on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:34:05
Quote from: neon_tom on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:32:21
Any details on the PCB? QMK and Via support I hope?

OP said it does support QMK
Totally missed that on first read!
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: mchanneh on Wed, 15 April 2020, 18:10:27: Quote from: rondg on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:34:53
Is it still US$500? Price is based on your previous IC post -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102993.0

It's quoted as $450 in the text and I assume this includes the EMS delivery.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 15 April 2020, 19:17:25: Quote from: rondg on Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:34:53
Is it still US$500? Price is based on your previous IC post -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102993.0

Prices vary depending on the exchange rate, which may increase slightly from GB.

The price does not include shipping charges.

The price shown is the same as the price we sold in Korea, and different delivery fees will be charged for each country.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:52:47: I liked it before and I still like it. Would prefer to have a version with no LED diffuser on the front, but that's my personal preference. I love that beige on beige one. What keycaps are those? Minimal? Carbon with Umka Mods?

Is there a way to get a more frosted acrylic for the front so that the LEDs diffuse better?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 16 April 2020, 05:43:11: Is is hot-swappable?

(Can you use it without soldering?)
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 16 April 2020, 10:31:18: Quote from: pixelpusher on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:52:47
I liked it before and I still like it. Would prefer to have a version with no LED diffuser on the front, but that's my personal preference. I love that beige on beige one. What keycaps are those? Minimal? Carbon with Umka Mods?

Is there a way to get a more frosted acrylic for the front so that the LEDs diffuse better?

Basically we use transparent acrylics, but we've made a few because we know some of them want translucent diffusers. This was effective.

Maybe you should choose the Sandblast Finish option.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 16 April 2020, 10:35:23: Quote from: alper_maestro on Thu, 16 April 2020, 05:43:11
Is is hot-swappable?

(Can you use it without soldering?)

No, the PCB is not fixed somewhere. You can use pin receptacles, but if you remove all the switches at once, not part of it, the PCB won't hold.
If this happens, you will need to remove all the screws on the case to reconnect the switch.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 16 April 2020, 21:49:22: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641196364369494016/686946298896580618/image0.jpg?width=756&height=567)(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641196364369494016/686946299656011816/image1.jpg?width=960&height=720)(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641196364369494016/686946300830154768/image2.jpg?width=682&height=910)(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641196364369494016/686973107298238547/20200311_012400.jpg?width=960&height=540)
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 16 April 2020, 21:53:33: navy & gray(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/698071032669536276/698910908390309888/image1.jpg?width=960&height=720)(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636541463341301770/700540156700131378/20200313_171257.jpg)(http://)
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 16 April 2020, 23:33:50: Quote from: pixelpusher on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:52:47
I liked it before and I still like it. Would prefer to have a version with no LED diffuser on the front, but that's my personal preference. I love that beige on beige one. What keycaps are those? Minimal? Carbon with Umka Mods?

Is there a way to get a more frosted acrylic for the front so that the LEDs diffuse better?

Is the escape R1? While the F keys are R0? By color I thought it was minimal but the profile has me at Umka.

Like your frosted idea
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 18 April 2020, 00:02:39: I brought a picture of a different color. I hope it helps.

(https://i.postimg.cc/KcWN1hWj/image0.jpg)

This is a red anodizing color.

There is another update.
We are informing you that we have started a test production of a 4T brass plate.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: Meowsaur on Sun, 19 April 2020, 19:18:15: It's really refreshing to see a board like this.
TKLs that look unique from the top are hard to come by; love the inlay(?) plate.

Quote from: mchanneh on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:24:48
What's the weight of the case when put together?

Would also be interested in a weigh-in, it looks pretty hefty.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 April 2020, 20:20:07: I might be crazy, but I think the mono tone (like the beige with beige and navy/navy) looks the best. The inner corners have a different radius than the outer edges that looks a bit "off" to me on the high contrast colors.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 20 April 2020, 04:51:43: Quote from: Meowsaur on Sun, 19 April 2020, 19:18:15
It's really refreshing to see a board like this.
TKLs that look unique from the top are hard to come by; love the inlay(?) plate.

Quote from: mchanneh on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:24:48
What's the weight of the case when put together?

Would also be interested in a weigh-in, it looks pretty hefty.

We will measure and tell you the exact weight soon.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 24 April 2020, 09:54:27: As a result of our measurements, the finished keyboard weighs about 2.8kg.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: Hesi on Sat, 25 April 2020, 03:23:28: Looks really nice. I like all the color choices. I'll be thinking about this one for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 04:11:16: The LED strip seems unnecessary / looks really bad IMO. The overall keyboard looks great and slick without any apparent screws but with this led strip.

I really like tho two tones and the presence of this board but I can't stand this led thing.

Good luck with the GB, it is still a really nice board at a great price ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: Surefoot on Sat, 25 April 2020, 06:46:24: Any example of the metal green ?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: Little4Real on Sat, 25 April 2020, 08:04:19: Any Alps support?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:53:16: Quote from: Surefoot on Sat, 25 April 2020, 06:46:24
Any example of the metal green ?

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsCjFZX2/colorsample.png)

We anodized a small block of aluminum to show the color. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:55:20: Quote from: Little4Real on Sat, 25 April 2020, 08:04:19
Any Alps support?

The PCB is made to be Alps compatible. However, Alps compatible plates are not in the current plan.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:57:16: Quote from: ephemeral25 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 04:11:16
The LED strip seems unnecessary / looks really bad IMO. The overall keyboard looks great and slick without any apparent screws but with this led strip.

I really like tho two tones and the presence of this board but I can't stand this led thing.

Good luck with the GB, it is still a really nice board at a great price ;)

Thank you for your valuable opinion. I will try to make a better product by referring to this. :)
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:58:06: We are going to close this form within 24 hours. If you are interested, please participate.

~~https://forms.gle/n1RXWZA5r7re6yP17 (https://forms.gle/n1RXWZA5r7re6yP17)~~
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 16:32:52: Is it possible to have more sound tests?

The colors combination is OP. I completed the form, hope this will help you.

After taking a deep breath, I can overstep this led thing. I really thing that this is a nice product tho I would prefer no bottom led strip for a seemsless full metal enclosure.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: soloplayer on Sat, 02 May 2020, 06:25:35: when will GB start? i cant wait ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: ecbob on Sun, 03 May 2020, 02:31:13: Are you planning on a lilac or light purple color?
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 03 May 2020, 04:16:38: Glad to see that this is happening. I am so in for this, it reminds me of the DEC VAX that I used to work on. Silver outer with black inner for me please in ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: basilnct on Tue, 05 May 2020, 04:17:19: How thick is the plate exactly in terms of millimeters? Sorry, I have never heard of 4T thickness lol. I only know a typical plate is 1.5mm
Title: Re: [IC] DGL TKL Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:24:19: Quote from: basilnct on Tue, 05 May 2020, 04:17:19
How thick is the plate exactly in terms of millimeters? Sorry, I have never heard of 4T thickness lol. I only know a typical plate is 1.5mm

T usually refers to mm. 4T is 4mm thick and 1.5mm is 1.5T.