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Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Tap on Wed, 30 June 2010, 19:04:42
Awhile back I picked up an ABS M1 from Newegg for $20 shipped.  I let my friend use it for part of the day at work and he loved it and wanted his own.  Newegg no longer had them in-stock so he called ABS to see what was going on.  Come to find out they are now discontinued.

The good news is that the customer service rep mentioned that they would be coming back from their parent company, Rosewill.  Rosewill is Newegg's private label brand. (ABS is too as they are located just down the street from Newegg).

My friend did a bit of digging and found that they were recently shown off at Computex.  There weren't too many stories about it because most of the press was focused on the fancy new cases (errr...the booth babes).

Within the past few days it seems they've finally posted some information on their site about the new KBs.  Same layout, size as the ABS M1s but with Cherry Blue switches!!!

(http://www.rosewill.com/Mgnt/Uploads/ImagesForProduct/ImgPrd-1611-Cm%5Bc14caade246f4a868a2c6bdbd476e208%5D.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/chinese.engadget.com/media/2010/06/rosewilldsc0214.jpg)

*edit*  Model number = RK-9000

http://www.rosewill.com/products/1611/productDetail.htm (http://www.rosewill.com/products/1611/productDetail.htm)

http://chinese.engadget.com/2010/06/02/computex-2010-rosewill-keyboard/ (http://chinese.engadget.com/2010/06/02/computex-2010-rosewill-keyboard/)

So now you know.  These will most likely only be sold at Newegg as it is their brand.  Pricing = TBD.  Available date = TBD

The board was briefly listed on Newegg but was taken down it seems.  Since Rosewill just recently posted the product on their site I can't imagine that it will be too long before you'll be able to order one.

http://www.newegg.com/product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040 (http://www.newegg.com/product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040)

Thoughts?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Wed, 30 June 2010, 19:12:47
Might be a hard sell as a gaming keyboard, since everyone has been indoctrinated that MX blues are bad for gaming (though I think that unless you play competitively they're fine). But if it's at the same price point then it would be a much better option than the Adesso MKB-125B.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Wed, 30 June 2010, 19:19:14
I'd rather have the fake alps, than cherry blues.  Although, of course I don't like clicky anyways, but I'm glad to hear that the bringing mechanicals to the masses saga continues.

This doing well, probably wouldn't help me get tenkeyless browns, reds or clears, though.  The bad layout iRocks doesn't have what it takes to dissuade me from continuing ergo badness with my G80-8200.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: spolia optima on Wed, 30 June 2010, 20:13:34
Ah, another *new* iteration of the DK-9000; hope it's priced well. Looks like ABS caps too... boring.
The rosewill logo looks pretty spiffy, I have to admit.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: spolia optima on Wed, 30 June 2010, 20:14:36
oh, mounted on a red plate too

+1 for the rosewill.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: spolia optima on Wed, 30 June 2010, 21:14:54
Quote from: ripster;198134
Lighting from the case makes it look red.



Look closely at the first pic ;)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: spolia optima on Wed, 30 June 2010, 21:49:34
Quote from: ripster;198142
Ahhh.... Now I see the red tinge.

Still, I'd rather have true 6-key than a red pcb that I'll never really see.  They could use the money they save from dropping the Gold Plated USB Latency Enhanced connector and buy a few diodes.


The fact that manufacturers can call just about any keyboard "NKRO" really kills me.

And btw gold plated USB connectors lower fragging latency by 2ms- studies have been done.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 30 June 2010, 23:10:15
Fukkas, RIP.

Cherry corp must be raking it in.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 30 June 2010, 23:49:11
Ah Rosewill, how I love your exploding PSUs.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: elbowglue on Thu, 01 July 2010, 05:38:19
Look out.  If this keyboard works well, it may be a filco full sized killa.  It's basically the same size and layout.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 01 July 2010, 07:14:33
Quote from: elbowglue;198226
Look out.  If this keyboard works well, it may be a filco full sized killa.  It's basically the same size and layout.


As soon as you quote something as an "[insert popular item here] killer" it's dead in the water.

If it's reasonably priced I could see it being popular.

I have an ABS M1 and the quality doesn't really compare. The plate mounting isn't as good (it's LOUD when you bottom out) and in general it doesn't feel as smooth. I'm not sure how much of that is the Fukka Alps vs. Cherry MX switches.

I'm very tempted to pick one of these up even if it isn't NKRO, I want to see if Blue Cherries are what they're cracked up to be.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 01 July 2010, 07:26:17
I'd just raher use a Model M. They're clicky too.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 01 July 2010, 08:00:12
Quote from: microsoft windows;198234
I'd just raher use a Model M. They're clicky too.

"Click" and "clack" are two very different things.

:horn:

What I'm the MOST curious about is whether or not this keyboard is actually N-key rollover or not. The ABS M1 was not (and, as others have said earlier in this thread, was falsely marketed as being too) which makes me inclined to believe that this is not either. (I'm also ticked off at Rosewill still because I bought a modem that said it supported caller ID and, what do you know, the 5 cents in circuitry wasn't in it. Whoops!)

You think the people at Rosewill will give me an honest (or informed answer) if I email them and ask? (do the switches have diodes, maybe ask them to provide a screenshot of the Microsoft keyboard test if I really want to bust chops).
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 08:26:01
No need to. One of them OCN types will buy it and I'm sure the appropriate information will trickle down to us...
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Brodie337 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 08:29:02
We know that. Now go play with the other children.

Edit: To MW
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 08:30:19
MW should donate his brain to science. The medical world could learn an awful lot from it...
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 01 July 2010, 09:38:03
Trolls or not, BS > blue cherries, especially if those cherries lack NKRO.  
It is red light, so that PCB could be silver, in which case it would be a plate not PCB?  There need be more pictures with some normal light or something, before that question is resolved.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 09:46:17
As far as I know, unless the keyboard is made by Cherry (which this one clearly is not) then it uses plate mounted switches. If it is made by Cherry, then it is PCB mounted.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 09:48:40
NKRO, that's that thing that no one really needs, right?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 01 July 2010, 09:56:47
Quote from: ch_123;198256
NKRO, that's that thing that no one really needs, right?

Yup, no one needs it.  Silly over achieving fast typists.  That is an over inflated software control scheme over there.  Why if they just learn crappy matrices and remap most things, they can carry on just fine.

Seriously, does the thing even offer 6KRO for common gaming combos?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 01 July 2010, 09:59:36
Quote from: ch_123;198256
NKRO, that's that thing that no one really needs, right?

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9053/troll0.jpg)

Quote from: washuai;198252
It is red light, so that PCB could be silver

Nope, from the Rosewill site:
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8754/imgprd1611cm5aa38102921.jpg)

Quote from: washuai;198252
in which case it would be a plate not PCB?  There need be more pictures with some normal light or something, before that question is resolved.

From the Chinese Engadget post:

Quote from: Original sentence
不過鐵板那邊漆成紅色,一來符合品牌形象,二來似乎也滿好看的。

Quote from: Translated by Babelfish
However the sheet iron that side paints red, one conforms to the brand image, two come as if also very good to look.

Quote from: Translated by Google Translate
However, there iron painted red, one to fit the brand image, and second, seems full of good-looking.

Quote from: Translated by Free Translation
However sheet on the other side painted red and one to meet the brand image, 2 to also appears to have full good-looking.

Seems to indicate it's a painted plate.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 01 July 2010, 10:06:32
Thermaltake red . . Rosewill red . . Redrum, Redrum  
/me looks at black and blue rig  
.o0if I had a second rig would be black/green  
I think I'm gonna stop posting in this thread.

I know people that have red/black rigs, but they think cherry browns are loud . .
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 01 July 2010, 10:11:26
I'm not trolling. I can type about 80-100WPM, and I don't have any problems with 2KRO keyboards.

If you're mashing down more than one key whilst typing, you're doing it horribly wrong.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 01 July 2010, 10:15:44
Quote from: ch_123;198265
I'm not trolling. I can type about 80-100WPM, and I don't have any problems with 2KRO keyboards.

If you're mashing down more than one key whilst typing, you're doing it horribly wrong.


This.  I type and have typed on 2KRO 'boards all the time with no problems.  I don't play games any more, so I don't know how much NKRO can affect gaming, but typing is fine on 2KRO.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: spolia optima on Thu, 01 July 2010, 11:09:51
If it's marketed to gamers, why not choose brown switches over blues? the blue release point kills it for FPS games, browns are a much better choice.

actually, i know the answer to that... it's the "clicky" thing, isn't it?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: elbowglue on Thu, 01 July 2010, 11:27:11
On that lateral view do you guys think that is Filco profile keycaps or cherry profile keycaps?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 01 July 2010, 12:05:37
Quote from: elbowglue;198274
On that lateral view do you guys think that is Filco profile keycaps or cherry profile keycaps?


I would say Filco.  This looks like another Costar 'board like the M1.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: aegrotatio on Thu, 01 July 2010, 12:26:12
I will buy two of these immediately.  I'm glad those whiners didn't put them out of business with all the RMAs on the ABS M1.

And, my ABS M1, passes 6-key NKRO.  Later models have revised firmware.  I have two of them.  My only problem is key transposition but I do that on all keyboards so I don't blame the M1 as being any worse than others as my other posts about the M1 say.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: aegrotatio on Thu, 01 July 2010, 12:58:12
Oh, well I guess I could test it again, still, 4 keys are good enough at $20 per keyboard, but I bought it two months ago and ABS posted in the reviews it had been revised since last year.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 01 July 2010, 15:35:24
Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;198239
"Click" and "clack" are two very different things.


Don't they moderate Car Talk?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: phillip on Thu, 01 July 2010, 15:49:58
Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;198231
I'm very tempted to pick one of these up even if it isn't NKRO, I want to see if Blue Cherries are what they're cracked up to be.


This.  I don't know what kind of switches the cherry boards at my old job used, but I don't remember them anyway.  I've got a board with black switches, and I'd like to try out some others if the price is right :D
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: majestouch on Thu, 01 July 2010, 15:50:22
With or without NKRO, this board will not retail *anywhere* near $20.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 01 July 2010, 16:27:46
Quote from: majestouch;198417
With or without NKRO, this board will not retail *anywhere* near $20.


And neither did the M1- it just finally reached that low to blow the last few out...
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: niz on Thu, 01 July 2010, 17:08:31
Quote from: ripster;198439
Why is the Elitekeyboard so expensive? (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1493320)


huh?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: aegrotatio on Thu, 01 July 2010, 22:40:05
I was not in any way suggesting this new one would be $20 but I will buy two at whatever price Newegg/Rosewill quotes.

(I'm typing this response on a $20 ABS M1.  Damn RMAers killed this board.)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 02 July 2010, 00:10:58
Quote from: ricercar;198409
Don't they moderate Car Talk?


broke my heart when I heard that they not only moderated it, but most of the calls are somewhat set up (caller talks first extensively with the shows director), and the best parts of each call are spliced together, and that prepped and taped and spliced and edited part is what they air "live".  

The number they give out during the show is indeed a live number - but they take your info and the following week the director calls you at home or something.

At least, thats what I heard... broke my heart cuz the show is so hilarious but if you think about it what show could be funnier than a sitcom and still be spontaneous, but i'm still a fan anyway.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 02 July 2010, 05:47:59
Quote from: aegrotatio;198545
I was not in any way suggesting this new one would be $20 but I will buy two at whatever price Newegg/Rosewill quotes.

(I'm typing this response on a $20 ABS M1.  Damn RMAers killed this board.)


Yeah, god forbid people wouldn't like a keyboard with mediocre switches and a whole stack of controller issues.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 July 2010, 07:50:45
Quote from: wellington1869;198577

At least, thats what I heard... broke my heart cuz the show is so hilarious but if you think about it what show could be funnier than a sitcom and still be spontaneous, but i'm still a fan anyway.


Even if that's the case, they are still spontaneously funny.  Those jokes weren't written before the call.  I have seen a few interviews with them, and they are genuinely that funny.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 02 July 2010, 09:51:01
Quote from: itlnstln;198642
Even if that's the case, they are still spontaneously funny.  Those jokes weren't written before the call.  I have seen a few interviews with them, and they are genuinely that funny.


true.  they make me laugh, they make me cry.
one thing that was lame tho -- did you see that animated series based on cartalk at all? Didnt like it, it just didnt capture the feel of the radio show. Similarly there was a half hearted attempt at a sitcom based on it, starring george wendt from cheers (you know, your alter ego). Again totally failed to capture the feel of the radio show. It was actually a really boring sitcom.

Something about the radio format I think adds to the entertainment of that show. Not being able to see them, but only hear them, for some reason adds to the hilarity. There's not much to view anyway. In both the animated series and the sitcom, most of the time they just showed them sitting on a couch or something. not exciting to watch, distracting even.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Viett on Fri, 02 July 2010, 10:34:30
Quote from: aegrotatio;198545
I was not in any way suggesting this new one would be $20 but I will buy two at whatever price Newegg/Rosewill quotes.

(I'm typing this response on a $20 ABS M1.  Damn RMAers killed this board.)


I RMAed mine. Their own fault for false advertising.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 07 July 2010, 09:40:46
Quote from: ripster;198246
At least spell it right if you're gonna troll.

I Like Turtles!
Show Image
(http://www.maniacworld.com/i-like-turtles.jpg)


You're like the movie industry, running out of ideas.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 07 July 2010, 09:41:26
Quote from: ricercar;198409
Don't they moderate Car Talk?


You mean "Cah-Tawk"?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 07 July 2010, 09:46:52
Quote from: microsoft windows;200245
You're like the movie industry, running out of ideas.


Funny you should say that...

Clavier Mecanique? Lol
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 07 July 2010, 09:51:35
Quote from: ripster;200243
Now shipping at Newegg.   (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040)  N-key.  Laser printed keys (which lasts long but doesn't look all that hot in my opinion - you can see the lower contrast even in this pic).
Show Image
(http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/23-201-040-05.jpg)

$99.  I'd wait until it drops to around $70 (Adesso price range) if I were you.  Rosewill is a discount brand so the pricing is a little screwed up here.


I will wait until the price drops too.  I have wanted a Cherry Blue board ever since discovering that I can't type on a Cherry Brown.  I will wait to see how low they go.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 07 July 2010, 09:51:59
I'm just a little bit set in my ways.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Wed, 07 July 2010, 12:15:03
At $70 I would have probably risked it but for $99 it's just not worth the risk that Rosewill hasn't made some sort of mistake (like the ABS  M1, which wasn't N-key when it originally claimed it was).

I'll be keeping an eye out.

Anyhow, it's coming out today. If sales are slow, Newegg will drop the price. I doubt they'll raise it, you'd be adding another digit (huge perceptually).
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 07 July 2010, 12:24:59
Quote from: wellington1869;198577
broke my heart when I heard that they not only moderated it, but most of the calls are somewhat set up (caller talks first extensively with the shows director), and the best parts of each call are spliced together, and that prepped and taped and spliced and edited part is what they air "live".  

The number they give out during the show is indeed a live number - but they take your info and the following week the director calls you at home or something.

At least, thats what I heard... broke my heart cuz the show is so hilarious but if you think about it what show could be funnier than a sitcom and still be spontaneous, but i'm still a fan anyway.


I haven't listened to "Cah-Tawk" in a long time.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ThirdLap on Wed, 07 July 2010, 16:50:32
While they always seem to be of decent quality, to me Rosewill just has somewhat of a 'generic brand' aura to it.  I would jump all over this for $59, but for ~$100 I think I'd opt for the Filco.

Interesting that the Rosewill is 400g heavier though.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: ThirdLap on Wed, 07 July 2010, 18:01:04
Quote from: ripster;200523
Gold USB Connector.

Au is a heavy metal.

Must be it.  There's something to be said about a connector that weighs nearly a pound.  Gold is the only way to go if you want to ensure all of the zeros and ones get through.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Megaweapon on Thu, 08 July 2010, 10:48:08
If you don't mind the 15% restocking fee...
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 08 July 2010, 11:12:16
I've been curious to what a plate-mounted Blue Cherry keyboard feel like. But, it's going to be a relatively expensive keyboard on Newegg.ca. The main advantage of buying from Newegg.ca is that they don't charge a lot in terms of custom broker fee. I'll wait and see what the price is going to be. It's not available on the Canadian site yet.

EDIT: I have to say that the Rosewill logo is one ugly logo though.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 15 July 2010, 09:52:31
The Rosewill logo just looks kind of nostalgic and 1950s ish to me, which isn't ugly to me.  Makes me think of warm summer days, kids with ice cream and baseball.  They could do better, but it isn't bad.

The ducky logo makes me laugh, so it isn't like it is oozing suave sophistication, either.

(http://www.rosewill.com/Images/rosewill_logo_bigone.jpg)

Ugly:
(http://www.rosecharities.info/firstrose/rose-logo.jpg)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 15 July 2010, 09:57:27
Quote from: washuai;202940
The Rosewill logo just looks kind of nostalgic and 1950s ish to me, which isn't ugly to me.  Makes me think of warm summer days, kids with ice cream and baseball.  They could do better, but it isn't bad.


It reminds of the Pepsi logo.
(http://media.photobucket.com/image/pepsi%20logo/pepsigreg/Pepsi%20Stuff/Pepsi_Logo.jpg)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 15 July 2010, 10:03:21
I think the association I have is because I've seen a lot of raglan shirts with similar font.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 15 July 2010, 13:18:58
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;202941
It reminds of the Pepsi logo.
Show Image
(http://media.photobucket.com/image/pepsi%20logo/pepsigreg/Pepsi%20Stuff/Pepsi_Logo.jpg)


Actually I think it looks more like the Coca-Cola logo.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: washuai on Thu, 15 July 2010, 13:22:55
Coca Cola makes me think of baseball, too.  Wonder why.
(http://media.katu.com/images/100405_coke_slide.jpg)(http://www.goldlabel.com/wp-content/plugins/wishads-for-cafepress-store/cache/288971376v2_150x150_Front_Color-BlackWhite.jpg)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 15 July 2010, 13:25:45
Quote from: itlnstln;203010
Actually I think it looks more like the Coca-Cola logo.


True.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: aegrotatio on Thu, 15 July 2010, 15:16:05
I always thought Newegg calls their house brand Rosewill because their office is on Rose Hills Road.

Here's why it reminds us of baseball:

(http://www.sportsdesktopwallpaper.net/backgrounds/baseball/baseball_logos_of_all_clubs.jpg)
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 15 July 2010, 15:48:32
You all know what reminds me of baseball?

A bunch of dumb guys on steroids running around a field.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 15 July 2010, 17:00:29
You know what reminds me of baseball?

When your mom swings on my bat and plays with my balls.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 15 July 2010, 17:58:16
You know what reminds me of baseball? Smashing apple computers with baseball bats. And cause I hate baseball, I think it's one of the most boring things to watch (I hate macs and think they're boring too).
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 15 July 2010, 18:13:28
Mmm... The printer destruction scene from Office Space. :)

The student club at my old college once held a office copier destruction contest. The team from the CS department won, of course.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Superfluous Parentheses on Thu, 15 July 2010, 18:24:22
Baseball? That's one of those quaint past-times they have in America to differentiate themselves from the colonies?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: TexasFlood on Thu, 15 July 2010, 21:00:23
Quote from: washuai;202940
The Rosewill logo just looks kind of nostalgic and 1950s ish to me, which isn't ugly to me.  Makes me think of warm summer days, kids with ice cream and baseball.  They could do better, but it isn't bad.


I recently went to a baseball game.  Although I was tempted to leave early, I'm very glad I didn't.  Would have missed the biggest major league bottom of the 9th comeback since 1901.  Guess you just never know.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Mon, 19 July 2010, 11:08:29
The item has been deactivated already (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040). Oh Rosewill RK-9000, we hardly knew ye.

I emailed Rosewill and will tell you if they reply as to whether or not the keyboard has been discontinued. Newegg doesn't seem to have a contact method for questions about items.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Tue, 20 July 2010, 08:23:24
And it's back (http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewProduct.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040) with no change in pricing or information as to why it was taken down. Ho hum.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 20 July 2010, 08:48:50
Whoever wrote about the keyboard's specifications was an idiot.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11793&stc=1&d=1279633489)

Now, first off, the picture shows a black keyboard. So we already know it's black. Second, why brag about how a USB keyboard works with Windows Vista? Any USB keyboard will work with Windows Vista. Third, it's a keyboard. So why would there be a mouse included when the picture shows only a keyboard and it says absolutely nothing about a mouse? And I also know for a fact that USB keyboards can work in Windows 3.1 (if you get the driver), Windows 95C, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, and on any Apple computer made in the last decade. NOT just 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, and 7.

I'm not buying a thing from these retards.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: aegrotatio on Tue, 20 July 2010, 09:34:55
I think the description is adequate and your comments are unnecessarily harsh.  I buy from Newegg all the time.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: gr1m on Tue, 20 July 2010, 10:02:31
Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Whoever wrote about the keyboard's specifications was an idiot.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11793&stc=1&d=1279633489)


Now, first off, the picture shows a black keyboard. So we already know it's black. Second, why brag about how a USB keyboard works with Windows Vista? Any USB keyboard will work with Windows Vista. Third, it's a keyboard. So why would there be a mouse included when the picture shows only a keyboard and it says absolutely nothing about a mouse? And I also know for a fact that USB keyboards can work in Windows 3.1 (if you get the driver), Windows 95C, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, and on any Apple computer made in the last decade. NOT just 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, and 7.

I'm not buying a thing from these retards.


Sweet mother of God, you're totally serious aren't you?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: didjamatic on Tue, 20 July 2010, 10:18:28
Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Whoever wrote about the keyboard's specifications was an idiot.

Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Now, first off, the picture shows a black keyboard. So we already know it's black.
Not if you're using a text web browser, are disabled or are simply searching for that attribute.  The image is not generally going to be searchable.

Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Second, why brag about how a USB keyboard works with Windows Vista? Any USB keyboard will work with Windows Vista.
It's not bragging, many OEM's didn't release support for drivers under Vista, so if you have multimedia keys or special functions they might not work.  Generic driver, yes.  Specific driver or software bundle to support all of the keyboard's functionality, not always.

Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Third, it's a keyboard. So why would there be a mouse included when the picture shows only a keyboard and it says absolutely nothing about a mouse?
Because some are bundled.

Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
And I also know for a fact that USB keyboards can work in Windows 3.1 (if you get the driver), Windows 95C, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, and on any Apple computer made in the last decade. NOT just 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, and 7.
Yes, but only if you have a driver, that's a big IF and you're only talking for generic input, leaving out the special functions many keyboards have.  And don't forget, no one gives a rip about windows 3.1.  Other than being a novelty, it has no practical modern purpose whatsoever.

Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
I'm not buying a thing from these retards.
It sounds like you should stick to the dumpsters behind thrift stores, where they put the things that even they can't sell.

Seriously man, you're really digging for something to complain about.  Lighten up and enjoy life, not everything has to be a critique.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 20 July 2010, 10:46:57
I just always laughed at those descriptions and had a good opportunity to make fun of one.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Tue, 20 July 2010, 10:53:45
Quote from: didjamatic;204514
It sounds like you should stick to the dumpsters behind thrift stores, where they put the things that even they can't sell.

Seriously man, you're really digging for something to complain about.  Lighten up and enjoy life, not everything has to be a critique.


You made me laugh really hard.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: nraymond on Tue, 20 July 2010, 13:23:43
Quote from: microsoft windows;204500
Whoever wrote about the keyboard's specifications was an idiot.

...

I'm not buying a thing from these retards.


Actually Newegg is pretty smart, because they have a "Power Search", which is how I use their site, and one of the biggest reasons I shop with them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/PowerSearch.aspx?N=100008650&IsNodeId=1&SubCategory=63&GASearch=3
 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/PowerSearch.aspx?N=100008650&IsNodeId=1&SubCategory=63&GASearch=3)

Now their product descriptions could be a lot better - imagine if they actually had a "Key type" section and tracked which keyboards were membrane, scissor switch, mechanical, and perhaps even Cherry type.  Also handy would be a "Simultaneous key down" section, with things like 6-key USB, n-key PS/2, etc.  Things like that would be really, really useful.

However, I have found being able to at least search for all black keyboards that are both USB and PS/2 to be a useful thing that is hard or impossible to do on other sites.  Minor data errors in the Newegg description database, and a lack of the level of detail that I (and I'm sure many of the people here would like) are the things preventing it from being perfect.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: Nonmouse on Thu, 22 July 2010, 01:20:52
Oy.  Y'all really need to ignore obvious troll.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 22 July 2010, 07:51:28
I was trying to cut back on my trollface usage, otherwise I would have said something earlier.

I think Newegg is more deserving of the trollface. This keyboard is starting to feel like vaporware.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:19:08
Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;205227
I was trying to cut back on my trollface usage, otherwise I would have said something earlier.

I think Newegg is more deserving of the trollface. This keyboard is starting to feel like vaporware.


You save that stuff for my thread :(
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:33:11
I've set Check4Change in Firefox to check Newegg and Chiefvalue every few minutes and alert me if there's any change (if they decide to relist it again). I don't really get the logic behind the lists/delists.

Quote from: gr1m;205233
You save that stuff for my thread :(


Yeah, but you're less of an obvious troll.
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:37:44
Maybe they "suddenly" remembered the RMA horror with the M1 and so delisted it until the NKRO stuff is taken care of?
Title: ABS M1 - Coming back under a new name (with Cherry MX Blues)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:47:21
Quote from: gr1m;205238
Maybe they "suddenly" remembered the RMA horror with the M1 and so delisted it until the NKRO stuff is taken care of?


If they figured that out monday, why did they relist it Tuesday?

Possibly though, hope it comes back.