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There's on the horizon a Meat-shortage due to the working conditions of meat processing plants which inescapably put workers elbow to elbow which spreads the Covid19.
This is a moment to Slow down and reflect on PROTEIN.
All proteins are made BY PLANTS, not meat plants, actual plants.
If that wasn't the case, Elephants, Giraffes, Buffalo, Gorilla, Kangaroo, wouldn't be the largest and strongest most muscular animals on the surface of the planet.
Nemai Delgado, 100% Veggie
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There's on the horizon a Meat-shortage due to the working conditions of meat processing plants which inescapably put workers elbow to elbow which spreads the Covid19.
This is a moment to Slow down and reflect on PROTEIN.
All proteins are made BY PLANTS, not meat plants, actual plants.
If that wasn't the case, Elephants, Giraffes, Buffalo, Gorilla, Kangaroo, wouldn't be the largest and strongest most muscular animals on the surface of the planet.
Nemai Delgado, 100% Veggie
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And on steroids.
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And on steroids.
It's tough to say with bodybuilders.
But the point is, Nemai does what he does without eating meat.
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If that wasn't the case, Elephants, Giraffes, Buffalo, Gorilla, Kangaroo, wouldn't be the largest and strongest most muscular animals on the surface of the planet.
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Siberian tiger, grizzly bear, great white shark, green anaconda
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If that wasn't the case, Elephants, Giraffes, Buffalo, Gorilla, Kangaroo, wouldn't be the largest and strongest most muscular animals on the surface of the planet.
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Siberian tiger, grizzly bear, great white shark, green anaconda
These are all comparatively significantly smaller /weaker animals.
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And on steroids.
It's tough to say with bodybuilders.
But the point is, Nemai does what he does without eating meat.
He's definitely on steroids. Good for him if he does it without eating meat but steroids are a big factor in his size and leanness.
If that wasn't the case, Elephants, Giraffes, Buffalo, Gorilla, Kangaroo, wouldn't be the largest and strongest most muscular animals on the surface of the planet.
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Siberian tiger, grizzly bear, great white shark, green anaconda
These are all comparatively significantly smaller /weaker animals.
Dude, how the hell do you know they're weaker?
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Dude, how the hell do you know they're weaker?
In terms of bio mass. they're not a dominant life force.
For crude comparison, if you put them in a fight, 1v1 they will lose with high probability.
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Dude, how the hell do you know they're weaker?
In terms of bio mass. they're not a dominant life force.
For crude comparison, if you put them in a fight, 1v1 they will lose with high probability.
Yeah I'm gonna need a better response than that.
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Yeah I'm gonna need a better response than that.
Why are humans the dominant life force vs wolves ?
There are more humans, the bio-mass of humans greatly exceed that of wolves. Wolves are weaker.
This is the most straight forward way to measure overall fitness.
The physical fight comparison is part of it, but that's why I called it a crude part
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I can believe this. There was a strong ass dude in the Gym. When me and my friend asked him what he eats and his answer was everyday a full bag of nuts 1kg and smoke weed in the bath :). Also he was a vegetarian.
Not sure if this is true but i have read that Roman warriors mostly where on a vegan diet instead of a meat one. And you know they where probably buff as fu fighting in the arena. Unless they had the body of hipsters in a starbucks cafe that opens his macbook there to work lol.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141020090006.htm
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I can believe this. There was a strong ass dude in the Gym. When me and my friend asked him what he eats and his answer was everyday a full bag of nuts 1kg and smoke weed in the bath :). Also he was a vegetarian.
Not sure if this is true but i have read that Roman warriors mostly where on a vegan diet instead of a meat one. And you know they where probably buff as fu fighting in the arena. Unless they had the body of hipsters in a starbucks cafe that opens his macbook there to work lol.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141020090006.htm
This is correct, Gladiators' roman name is Hordearii, translates to Eater of Barley.
They are primarily vegetarian. Primary diet consisted of barley, boiled beans, oatmeal, ash and dried fruit.
Check out the latest -The Game Changers (2018)- documentary , it has a great segment on gladiators.
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lol this guy is cycled out to the max man.
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lol this guy is cycled out to the max man.
Well, if you watch him in video, he's not monstrously large like typical bodybuilders.
Photography have some distortion on proportions depending on lenses and angle.
By eye, I would say he's not much larger than dedicated gymnasts.
But yea, the natty or not thing never ends.
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Wonder how much protein there would be if I turned Tp into sausages
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Wonder how much protein there would be if I turned Tp into sausages
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lol this guy is cycled out to the max man.
Well, if you watch him in video, he's not monstrously large like typical bodybuilders.
Photography have some distortion on proportions depending on lenses and angle.
By eye, I would say he's not much larger than dedicated gymnasts.
But yea, the natty or not thing never ends.
it's pretty clear to me that he cycles. one thing is that he's not very transparent with how he got so big in the first place. he just popped up on youtube and social one day, ripped. in fact, i did a little looking and he said he was vegan for 3 years. if you look 3 years ago, he was already built like he is today. a lot of the biggest vegan bodybuilders on social got that big from when they were non-vegan and they only maintain it with their vegan diet. hellahgood is the same way and was super transparent about explaining that he was built before he was vegan, and his vegan and running lifestyle helped him shred while maintaining his build. a big sign that he juices is that you can see him always going through phases of shredding and bulking in very short amounts of time. what's happening there is that he's cycling on and off; the final point is that he's just too striated for his amount of mass to be natty. if you're into the youtube vegan scene durianrider has been pushing videos on steriod culture on his instagram lately. Frank medrano probably approaches ideal vegan physique. frank yang is a little off the hook sometimes but he goes into a lot of detail and has a lot of documentation on what it takes to become shredded like nimai here, and even he's smaller than nimai. anyways, you shouldn't look too deep into it. if a juiced up athlete inspires you to do more, then i'd say that's the type of energy you need. this one is obvious though. you can definitely be an amazing vegan athlete, but nimai hardly deserves attention. this is honestly low effort fitness influencer content.
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Yeah I'm gonna need a better response than that.
Why are humans the dominant life force vs wolves ?
There are more humans, the bio-mass of humans greatly exceed that of wolves. Wolves are weaker.
This is the most straight forward way to measure overall fitness.
The physical fight comparison is part of it, but that's why I called it a crude part
So where do ants fall then? Speaking in terms of biomass alone they fall right next to humans. They aren't vegan though.
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So where do ants fall then? Speaking in terms of biomass alone they fall right next to humans. They aren't vegan though.
Some ants do veggie as well.
Plants are by far the dominant life-force by bio mass.
The closer an animal that can source energy direct from plants < which humans can > the stronger that animal's overall fitness.
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So where do ants fall then? Speaking in terms of biomass alone they fall right next to humans. They aren't vegan though.
Some ants do veggie as well.
Plants are by far the dominant life-force by bio mass.
The closer an animal that can source energy direct from plants < which humans can > the stronger that animal's overall fitness.
Fitness as defined by what?
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I do think you are oversimplifying by a large amount, not all food contains the same things, and very few plants do contain proteins, some animals can metabolize the proteins they need from what they find in random leaves but humans, like many omnivorous and carnivorous animals, can't, we need to find those protein somewhere else, and the most space and cost efficient source of that for millennia has been meat, now with newer advances soy and mushrooms and some other plants or insects may be a better option.
But it is not as simple as vegies > meat because more biomass, of course there is more biomass, carnivorous depends on meat, so you need maybe 100 herbivorous to sustain a carnivorous of similar size, same goes for plant vs herbivorous.
I am pretty sure that you want to do the right thing teaching the world that meat is bad, but you do look a bit stupid without any arguments.
Pretty much everyone in developed countries eat way too much meat, the recommended amount last time i checked was 50 to 100g per day, where a steak usually weighs about 200g and peoples eat 2 per day... maybe that should be a start, dividing by 4 to 8 the consumption of meat would have a considerable impact already.
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green anaconda defeats kangaroo very day of the week
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I do think you are oversimplifying by a large amount, not all food contains the same things, and very few plants do contain proteins, some animals can metabolize the proteins they need from what they find in random leaves but humans, like many omnivorous and carnivorous animals, can't, we need to find those protein somewhere else, and the most space and cost efficient source of that for millennia has been meat, now with newer advances soy and mushrooms and some other plants or insects may be a better option.
@ Yui, Tp4 knows you're intelligent.
There's no non-confronting way to say this, But you're Wrong.
Tp4 thought the SAME THING you did, Before going on the Veggie-Road.
PLANTS such as Soy actually has a COMPLETE protein profile of all the essential amino acids.
Other different plants have a different protein profile, but ALL PROTEINS that would exist in a piece of meat DID IN FACT at one point come from a plant eaten by an animal.
So here we ask, What's the difference.
Well, as it turns out, COMPLETE protein profiles such as animal-Flesh is NOT exactly what you want. By eating this, it greatly accelerates cancer growth. Animal protein profiles also trigger much higher IGF-1 levels which feed tumors.
In comparison, plant proteins DO NOT exhibit that acceleration.
vvv, doctor gregar's videos are spliced, so where he says he'll explain something in the next video, the button at the bottom of the page gets you to the next video.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/protein-intake-and-igf-1-production/
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I do think you are oversimplifying by a large amount, not all food contains the same things, and very few plants do contain proteins, some animals can metabolize the proteins they need from what they find in random leaves but humans, like many omnivorous and carnivorous animals, can't, we need to find those protein somewhere else, and the most space and cost efficient source of that for millennia has been meat, now with newer advances soy and mushrooms and some other plants or insects may be a better option.
@ Yui, Tp4 knows you're intelligent.
There's no non-confronting way to say this, But you're Wrong.
Tp4 thought the SAME THING you did, Before going on the Veggie-Road.
PLANTS such as Soy actually has a COMPLETE protein profile of all the essential amino acids.
Other different plants have a different protein profile, but ALL PROTEINS that would exist in a piece of meat DID IN FACT at one point come from a plant eaten by an animal.
So here we ask, What's the difference.
Well, as it turns out, COMPLETE protein profiles such as animal-Flesh is NOT exactly what you want. By eating this, it greatly accelerates cancer growth.
In comparison, plant proteins DO NOT exhibit that acceleration.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-great-protein-fiasco/
what i said it that for millennia meat was the best solution, it clearly is not anymore, but you will not completely change humanity in one generation, and well as for cancer you will find studies that can says that anything can cause cancer, and others that will tell you that nothing does, what i am trying to say is that moderation is good else peoples feel attacked and you do not get your message across.
humanity comes from Africa, there is not many sources of the proteins we need there other than meat, now in a global society better options exists but we socially "evolved" to want meat, and that may take a bit of time and finesse to get out of, i am just trying to make you more effective at spreading your message, frankly if you live better without meat, good for you, i did it too for a while, but now i live with someone why pretty much despise vegetables, so sometimes concessions can do more good.
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what i said it that for millennia meat was the best solution, it clearly is not anymore, but you will not completely change humanity in one generation, and well as for cancer you will find studies that can says that anything can cause cancer, and others that will tell you that nothing does, what i am trying to say is that moderation is good else peoples feel attacked and you do not get your message across.
humanity comes from Africa, there is not many sources of the proteins we need there other than meat, now in a global society better options exists but we socially "evolved" to want meat, and that may take a bit of time and finesse to get out of, i am just trying to make you more effective at spreading your message, frankly if you live better without meat, good for you, i did it too for a while, but now i live with someone why pretty much despise vegetables, so sometimes concessions can do more good.
The fact that there is conflicting information out there does not mean there isn't definitive truth as well.
We know at this point <for a fact> the mechanism by which animal protein intake greatly increases cancer risk/propagation ontop of the deleterious comorbidities such as heartdisease/ diabetes.
As for AFRICA, what you've typed out is a matter of superficial cultural information. The persona- YUI, has not yet questioned these cultural foundations.
We know that Human's PRIMARY diet was PLANTS, based on fossilized cooking sites and fossilized human p00.
Fossil evidence of the Inuit mummies (which did eat primarily meat (fish/seals)) discovered also shed light on the fact that these mummies had severe osteoporosis AND congestive heart disease. This is clearly mirrored by modern humans. Where the amount of meat eaten correlates with poor-er bone health, and higher rates of heart disease.
From the perspective of Well, what did those Africans really eat.
Given Stone-Age tools, Hunting was NOT calorically efficient, you do it if you can or must, But edible PLANTS have always been the primary source of calories for humans.
In modern times, we have Rainforest tribes which still live in a stone-age setup. EVEN FOR THEM, they do-not-hunt UNLESS their primary food source, Tubers (starchy root vegetables), is plenty available. The reason is, hunting is NOT calorically efficient given their dart pipes. And dart pipes is actually already quite advanced vs what stone age hunters would've had, spears/ slings/ axes.
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I love red meat and chicken
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Yeah I'm gonna need a better response than that.
Why are humans the dominant life force vs wolves ?
There are more humans, the bio-mass of humans greatly exceed that of wolves. Wolves are weaker.
This is the most straight forward way to measure overall fitness.
The physical fight comparison is part of it, but that's why I called it a crude part
This is the best response you'll get, preach tp 😩✊
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890 out of 2200 members of Tyson Pork plant test positive for Covid19
120 members at Triump Foods Beef Processor
It's not just COOKING, these things are now like Live-Grenades, Gotta wear gloves.
Since they come in refrigerated trucks throughout the process, the virus can live on the surface indefinitely, INCLUDING inside your refrigerators.
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/495564-nearly-900-workers-at-tyson-meat-plant-in-indiana-test-positive-for-coronavirus
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I eats that new(er) protein pasta with lentils and **** in it. It tastes good... plus tp4 muscles...
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I eats that new(er) protein pasta with lentils and **** in it. It tastes good... plus tp4 muscles...
Lentils = Cheeeeep. chk the latino // indian grocery stores. also the budget stores like aldi.
Put lentils in dat instanpot, boil regular pasta and then just Load up !
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https://www.roundeyesupply.com/Protein-Plus-Penne-Pasta-14-5-oz-p/de585454.htm?gclid=Cj0KCQjwka_1BRCPARIsAMlUmErT9abwwtNZqB8_ps9STvmStWph5ihn0z35-ihBY3EMEPARLqymzQMaAovNEALw_wcB&Click=7195
This is the brand and type.
Also, "roundeyesupply"... is that okay to say?
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This is the brand and type.
Also, "roundeyesupply"... is that okay to say?
Tp4 can only fordz $1/lb Costco pasta.
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Also, "roundeyesupply"... is that okay to say?
:)) that does sound racist
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Tp4 can only fordz $1/lb Costco pasta.
Yet you can eat $5 worth of Graham crackers in one sitting?
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Tp4 can only fordz $1/lb Costco pasta.
Yet you can eat $5 worth of Graham crackers in one sitting?
Tp4 can fordz crackers once every other month.
Pasta + Rice is an everyday thing.
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