Post by: Tigarion on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:55:45
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:57:52
Post by: SihTzu on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:04:09
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:05:24
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:11:39
Post by: Olumin on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:14:25
On both keyboards and typewriters.
Post by: 4everJayWalking on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:31:48
Post by: Lanrefni on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:41:33
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:49:28
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:00:09
On a Split keyboard, you'd use both, on a Standard qwerty board you'd only use the LEFT shift, Rightshift is too far away to be efficient.
I haven't even thought of it that way. My fingers are pretty long, so distance doesn't factor in too much beyond however tiny amount of difference in time there may be in reaching.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:02:18
On a Split keyboard, you'd use both, on a Standard qwerty board you'd only use the LEFT shift, Rightshift is too far away to be efficient.
I haven't even thought of it that way. My fingers are pretty long, so distance doesn't factor in too much beyond however tiny amount of difference in time there may be in reaching.
The longer your fingers, the further the right shift is away from that finger.
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:09:34
On a Split keyboard, you'd use both, on a Standard qwerty board you'd only use the LEFT shift, Rightshift is too far away to be efficient.
I haven't even thought of it that way. My fingers are pretty long, so distance doesn't factor in too much beyond however tiny amount of difference in time there may be in reaching.
The longer your fingers, the further the right shift is away from that finger.
From what position, and at what point of the finger? There's no difference in distance for the tip of the finger when resting on the home keys. With longer fingers, I can just reach further without difficulty.
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:21:52
In general it's far more efficient to appropriate either the ; key or / key for right shift if you must use it.
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:27:29
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:59:20
Post by: Tigarion on Tue, 12 May 2020, 13:39:50
Post by: depletedvespene on Tue, 12 May 2020, 13:44:32
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 12 May 2020, 14:00:49
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:10:44
Post by: Bruek on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:40:57
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 May 2020, 20:17:48
Both — as one is supposed to when touch-typing.
/Incorrect
Post by: captain on Wed, 13 May 2020, 07:40:54
Both — as one is supposed to when touch-typing.Mavis Beacon would be proud.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 13 May 2020, 07:45:42
Mavis Beacon would be proud.
Mavis Beacon = Basic + Wrong.
They've been ruining proper typing since forever.
Wrong fingering, wrong theory, wrong emphasis of practice text.
Post by: captain on Wed, 13 May 2020, 07:59:32
But I’ve wondered about the “which shift key“ question many times, and usually conclude that I use both.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:16:28
To be fair, I never actually used Mavis, but I sold plenty of her. I learned to type, long before she came along, from a true typing teacher. I’m sure I’ve perverted much of my teaching with my own preferences, by now. I think I’m also below 100wpm at this point.
But I’ve wondered about the “which shift key“ question many times, and usually conclude that I use both.
The LIES.. !!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
Post by: Darthbaggins on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:21:26
Post by: iri on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:12:45
Post by: funkmon on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:24:12
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:38:18
I only use the right."what is the world coming to."
(https://i.imgur.com/bmmPIeW.gif)
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:47:20
I tend to strike the outside edges of the shift keys. For that reason, a short/split Left Shift does not particularly bother me since shift is to the outside, but a short/split Right Shift with shift on the inside drives me crazy.
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:47:34
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:59:15
Since a reasonable follow-up question would be about keyboard layouts and styles of shift keys, I will say that I have analyzed my shift key use (in previous shift threads here), and recognized how my fingers tend to work. (Note that I use conventional ANSI almost exclusively.)
I tend to strike the outside edges of the shift keys. For that reason, a short/split Left Shift does not particularly bother me since shift is to the outside, but a short/split Right Shift with shift on the inside drives me crazy.
Get a Brazilian Model M (http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/800px-Brazilian_104-key_ABNT2_keyboard.jpg) (or brazilianize a common one) and enjoy the goodness of an extra alpha. :thumb:
Post by: Shiraori on Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:01:18
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:09:12
I only use the right.
this has to be a lie
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:13:51
I only use the right.
this has to be a lie
600% LIE..
Post by: Sniping on Thu, 14 May 2020, 02:20:54
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 14 May 2020, 05:07:58
left exclusively, even on split keyboards. just grew up learning that way. when i was a kid my hands were too small to comfortably right shift and type fast so i would always use left. my pinky still can't comfortably reach right shift imo
Well on Split, it's actually quite convenient to use both. ONLY on qwerty, left is better.
Post by: funkmon on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:45:10
I only use the right.
this has to be a lie
No it's real! Haha. I type with like 4 fingers doing a giver hand and my left hand has my pinky up by the tab key. My right hand always has it near the shift. I literally don't think I have ever used the left shift. Sincerely.
Post by: Maledicted on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:53:49
I only use the right.
this has to be a lie
No it's real! Haha. I type with like 4 fingers doing a giver hand and my left hand has my pinky up by the tab key. My right hand always has it near the shift. I literally don't think I have ever used the left shift. Sincerely.
In normal typing, I don't use the left shift at all either. I can't imagine keeping my pinky up on tab though. I'm normally on the home row.
All I really use left shift for is hotkeys and gaming.
Post by: Darthbaggins on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:16:52
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Post by: funkmon on Fri, 15 May 2020, 18:57:49
That's the text I just typed in this video.
Post by: Boy_314 on Fri, 15 May 2020, 19:00:53
Post by: IronCheeks on Fri, 15 May 2020, 22:47:09
It's tough since it's been hard-programmed in my mind to just go for left shift, both in games and in typing.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 16 May 2020, 05:23:46
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