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Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: r3n4m3 on Sun, 04 July 2010, 04:54:12: Hi everyone :smile: , I have a little problem with switchers, sometimes CTRL and L buttons can`t to be recognized to PC. I think so that could be some oxide or another sh*t :biggrin1: . Wonna to open them but I`m afraid to break that switchers. Maybe somebody know how to open them safely?
And another problem with small holders for big buttons (like ENTER, SHIFT etc) it have broken, can I reanimates them or buy somewhere?
I`m using SteelSeries 6G old version with Cherry Black linear switches (sry, cant put photo in), connect by PS/2.

P.S.: And I cant understand why gamers use only linear switches? What bad in tactile switchers?
P.S.2: Ofc thanks to all for help :wink: and sry for my English :rolleyes:
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Nonmouse on Sun, 04 July 2010, 09:46:19: Quote from: ripster;199295

Stabilizers are not available anywhere unless you cannibalize an old keyboard.

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Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Nonmouse on Sun, 04 July 2010, 10:05:46: Quote from: ripster;199315
Special order.

Good luck with that.

Oh, FFS.
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Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sun, 04 July 2010, 10:42:58: I think more recent Cherry G81s use the same (cheap and crappy) stabilizers as most non-Cherry MX boards. Here you can find G81s in any dumpster, but I'm no expert on Russian dumpsters.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Infinite north on Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:21:44: What do the cheap stabilizers look like? I don't believe I have had the honor of meeting one yet.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Nonmouse on Sun, 04 July 2010, 12:59:26: Quote from: Infinite north;199363
What do the cheap stabilizers look like? I don't believe I have had the honor of meeting one yet.

Like this:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2099361519_b53e645e72.jpg)
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: J888www on Sun, 04 July 2010, 14:50:01: Quote from: r3n4m3;199274
Hi everyone :smile: problem with switchers, sometimes CTRL and L buttons can`t to be recognized to PC......small holders for big buttons (like ENTER, SHIFT etc) it have broken, can I reanimates them or buy somewhere?

Greetings, I had same problem with the '2' on the num-pad Yesterday, desoldered the old switch, and replaced, now works fine.
You're in luck, I just happen to have de-switched two Cherry Black kbds (was bored on a rainy day) and have some spare parts.

Check PM
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: spolia optima on Sun, 04 July 2010, 17:37:21: I couldn't get back on the stabilizer on a g80-3000's "+" key, so i just gave up. the key still works and the world didn't end, whoopdee freaking doo.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: lmnop on Sun, 04 July 2010, 17:55:13: TG3 in case anybody is curious.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1oos2d.jpg)
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: r3n4m3 on Mon, 05 July 2010, 03:51:36: If I have correctly understood, I should solder out switches from the card, and only then to disassemble?

P.S.: Stabilizers in my keyboard like at screen from Nonmouse but without white things, only switcher has mount in sort "+"
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: J888www on Mon, 05 July 2010, 06:43:57: Quote from: r3n4m3;199614
If I have correctly understood, I should solder out switches from the card, and only then to disassemble?

It depends on the PCB of the kbd, some can be disassembled without the need to de-solder out the switches. Guide Link (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://my3c.com/D5/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D4625%26extra%3D%26page%3D1&sl=auto&tl=en). NB: Google Crome browser automatically translates the web-page.

You can open up the switch, reseat the springs and see if it will work.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: r3n4m3 on Mon, 05 July 2010, 08:10:19: Thats looks easy but my keyboard have metal frame and switcher is half inside, cuz that is problematically
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 05 July 2010, 08:20:28: Quote from: ripster;199385
That's not a stabilizer. That's one of those Asian Puzzle things!
(http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/183931.php)

Nice link.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Mon, 05 July 2010, 10:25:36: Quote from: r3n4m3;199631
Thats looks easy but my keyboard have metal frame and switcher is half inside, cuz that is problematically

That's what we call plate mounted. In this case, you have to desolder switches in order to open them.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: r3n4m3 on Tue, 06 July 2010, 05:03:04: I think so before asking but hope so u know another way, well thanks to ALL for help, u`r great :wink:
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 06 July 2010, 09:49:24: Quote from: Mental Hobbit;199667
That's what we call plate mounted. In this case, you have to desolder switches in order to open them.

You mean, desolder all the switches so that the plate can be lifted off the circuit board?

Is it not possible to reach the plastic tabs on the switches that are closest to the edge?
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 06 July 2010, 12:47:41: Quote from: Findecanor;199947
You mean, desolder all the switches so that the plate can be lifted off the circuit board?

No, just the ones you want to open.

Quote from: Findecanor;199947

Is it not possible to reach the plastic tabs on the switches that are closest to the edge?

Even if you can reach them, I doubt you can you can lift the switch top with spread tabs. Unless the holes in the backplate have ridiculous tolerances, that is.
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: grrider477 on Wed, 07 July 2010, 05:15:04: Quote from: r3n4m3;199274
Hi everyone :smile: , I have a little problem with switchers, sometimes CTRL and L buttons can`t to be recognized to PC. I think so that could be some oxide or another sh*t :biggrin1: . Wonna to open them but I`m afraid to break that switchers. Maybe somebody know how to open them safely?
And another problem with small holders for big buttons (like ENTER, SHIFT etc) it have broken, can I reanimates them or buy somewhere?
I`m using SteelSeries 6G old version with Cherry Black linear switches (sry, cant put photo in), connect by PS/2.

P.S.: And I cant understand why gamers use only linear switches? What bad in tactile switchers?
P.S.2: Ofc thanks to all for help :wink: and sry for my English :rolleyes:

Please explain on that question, I have the same question

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Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: r3n4m3 on Wed, 07 July 2010, 11:08:17: Which question to answer? Here it is a lot of them :D
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: keyb_gr on Wed, 07 July 2010, 11:36:31: Methinks we got a few spam bots walking around here. ;-/ Oh well... Anyone want to bug iMav?
Title: How to disassemble the Cherry switcher?
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 08 July 2010, 22:21:11: Quote from: keyb_gr;200326
Methinks we got a few spam bots walking around here. ;-/ Oh well... Anyone want to bug iMav?

agreed only one thing to do..